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  #11  
Old October 23rd 06, 07:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
J. P. Gilliver
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Default Firewall/Antivirus

"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
"El.Plates" wrote:

What would be the best free combination of the above for W98
that is still freely available and is least demanding on
system resources. TIA


I don't know about either best or lowest on resources, but AVG is a very
widely-used free antivirus tool, and seems very well-behaved. For the
firewall, ZoneAlarm is the commonest, and Kerio as good. (Note - the latest
version of one or both of these may not work under '98. However, unlike
antivirus software, this is less of a problem - though in time could still
be one - for firewalls.)

Firewalls are generally regarded as useless by experts (contrary to
what many stupid-ass tech journalists say).


How does it go - a spurt is a drip under pressure, so an ex-spurt is a
former drip under pressure ...

What every broad-band connected home computer should have is a
"NAT-router" which costs around $50 and performs essentially like an

[]
What everyone who dares to ask about firewalls should know is that 98guy
will pop up with the above reflex response (that's "knee-jerk" for those
who've forgotten that the word "reflex" exists). Note that he never explains
what NAT stands for, though he repeats it multiple times.

(Oh, and he's almost certainly right - a hardware firewall, whether it's in
a router [which it usually is] or something else, is most of the time better
than a software one, in that it is much harder to circumvent. I just get
tired of the stuck record/reflex action. I'd not agree 100% with his
assertion that software ones are completely useless, though, especially on
the outgoing side - OK, they _can_ be disabled.)


  #12  
Old October 24th 06, 03:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Jonny
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Posts: 138
Default Firewall/Antivirus

"J. P. Gilliver" wrote in message
...
"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
"El.Plates" wrote:

What would be the best free combination of the above for W98
that is still freely available and is least demanding on
system resources. TIA


I don't know about either best or lowest on resources, but AVG is a very
widely-used free antivirus tool, and seems very well-behaved. For the
firewall, ZoneAlarm is the commonest, and Kerio as good. (Note - the
latest version of one or both of these may not work under '98. However,
unlike antivirus software, this is less of a problem - though in time
could still be one - for firewalls.)

Firewalls are generally regarded as useless by experts (contrary to
what many stupid-ass tech journalists say).


How does it go - a spurt is a drip under pressure, so an ex-spurt is a
former drip under pressure ...

What every broad-band connected home computer should have is a
"NAT-router" which costs around $50 and performs essentially like an

[]
What everyone who dares to ask about firewalls should know is that 98guy
will pop up with the above reflex response (that's "knee-jerk" for those
who've forgotten that the word "reflex" exists). Note that he never
explains what NAT stands for, though he repeats it multiple times.

(Oh, and he's almost certainly right - a hardware firewall, whether it's
in a router [which it usually is] or something else, is most of the time
better than a software one, in that it is much harder to circumvent. I
just get tired of the stuck record/reflex action. I'd not agree 100% with
his assertion that software ones are completely useless, though,
especially on the outgoing side - OK, they _can_ be disabled.)


Hello,
Not a country bumpkin here. Have done the cable and router thing in the big
city. Now in rural setting. No cable. Telco modem am stuck with. How do
I use a router here?

I stopped using ZA Pro because some its assets only work in XP. Used 98SE
for a year or 2 for internet. Switched to XP, using ZA Pro again. Now, I
find out ZA Pro won't even install in 98SE.

NAT:
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=de...s=&safe=images
--
Jonny


  #13  
Old October 24th 06, 03:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Jonny
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Posts: 138
Default Firewall/Antivirus

"J. P. Gilliver" wrote in message
...
"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
"El.Plates" wrote:

What would be the best free combination of the above for W98
that is still freely available and is least demanding on
system resources. TIA


I don't know about either best or lowest on resources, but AVG is a very
widely-used free antivirus tool, and seems very well-behaved. For the
firewall, ZoneAlarm is the commonest, and Kerio as good. (Note - the
latest version of one or both of these may not work under '98. However,
unlike antivirus software, this is less of a problem - though in time
could still be one - for firewalls.)

Firewalls are generally regarded as useless by experts (contrary to
what many stupid-ass tech journalists say).


How does it go - a spurt is a drip under pressure, so an ex-spurt is a
former drip under pressure ...

What every broad-band connected home computer should have is a
"NAT-router" which costs around $50 and performs essentially like an

[]
What everyone who dares to ask about firewalls should know is that 98guy
will pop up with the above reflex response (that's "knee-jerk" for those
who've forgotten that the word "reflex" exists). Note that he never
explains what NAT stands for, though he repeats it multiple times.

(Oh, and he's almost certainly right - a hardware firewall, whether it's
in a router [which it usually is] or something else, is most of the time
better than a software one, in that it is much harder to circumvent. I
just get tired of the stuck record/reflex action. I'd not agree 100% with
his assertion that software ones are completely useless, though,
especially on the outgoing side - OK, they _can_ be disabled.)


Hello,
Not a country bumpkin here. Have done the cable and router thing in the big
city. Now in rural setting. No cable. Telco modem am stuck with. How do
I use a router here?

I stopped using ZA Pro because some its assets only work in XP. Used 98SE
for a year or 2 for internet. Switched to XP, using ZA Pro again. Now, I
find out ZA Pro won't even install in 98SE.

NAT:
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=de...s=&safe=images
--
Jonny


  #14  
Old October 24th 06, 08:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98,microsoft.public.win98.networking,microsoft.public.win98.performance
El.Plates
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Thanks very much everybody


  #15  
Old October 24th 06, 08:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98,microsoft.public.win98.networking,microsoft.public.win98.performance
El.Plates
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Posts: 12
Default Firewall/Antivirus

Thanks very much everybody


  #16  
Old October 25th 06, 03:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98,microsoft.public.win98.networking,microsoft.public.win98.performance
glee
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Software firewall, such as it is (we'll let J.P. and Guy fight that out):

Kerio Personal Firewall 2.1.5:
http://www.321download.com/LastFreew...nal%20Firewall
http://www.321download.com/LastFreew...keriopf215.zip

I use Avast Free Edition for A-V on Win98SE, but its performance hit varies
depending on the speed and age of the system. An older version won't help because
A-V apps need their engines updated to continue getting working signature updates.
http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html

It requires registering online for free every 12 months. They email you the
registration key.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"El.Plates" wrote in message
...
What would be the best free combination of the above for W98 that is still freely
available and is least demanding on system resources. TIA


  #17  
Old October 25th 06, 03:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98,microsoft.public.win98.networking,microsoft.public.win98.performance
glee
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Posts: 2,458
Default Firewall/Antivirus

Software firewall, such as it is (we'll let J.P. and Guy fight that out):

Kerio Personal Firewall 2.1.5:
http://www.321download.com/LastFreew...nal%20Firewall
http://www.321download.com/LastFreew...keriopf215.zip

I use Avast Free Edition for A-V on Win98SE, but its performance hit varies
depending on the speed and age of the system. An older version won't help because
A-V apps need their engines updated to continue getting working signature updates.
http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html

It requires registering online for free every 12 months. They email you the
registration key.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"El.Plates" wrote in message
...
What would be the best free combination of the above for W98 that is still freely
available and is least demanding on system resources. TIA


  #18  
Old October 25th 06, 08:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98,microsoft.public.win98.networking,microsoft.public.win98.performance
Haggis
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anytime :


"El.Plates" wrote in message
...
Thanks very much everybody



  #19  
Old October 25th 06, 08:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98,microsoft.public.win98.networking,microsoft.public.win98.performance
Haggis
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Default Firewall/Antivirus

anytime :


"El.Plates" wrote in message
...
Thanks very much everybody



  #20  
Old October 26th 06, 12:15 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
J. P. Gilliver
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Posts: 214
Default Firewall/Antivirus

"glee" wrote in message
...
Software firewall, such as it is (we'll let J.P. and Guy fight that out):


(Name's John BTW!)

Kerio Personal Firewall 2.1.5:
http://www.321download.com/LastFreew...nal%20Firewall
http://www.321download.com/LastFreew...keriopf215.zip


Yes, I think that's the last one that'll work on '98; not sure if last free
one. It is also much lighter on resources than the current one - even the
now owners of what was Kerio (Sunbelt software, IIRR) concede that.
(Excellent resource, the lastfreeversion site; long may he continue!)

For interest, my blind friends use that Kerio, and find it easy enough to
use (under XP now, though I think they did use it under 98 too).

I use Avast Free Edition for A-V on Win98SE, but its performance hit
varies depending on the speed and age of the system. An older version
won't help because A-V apps need their engines updated to continue getting
working signature updates.
http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html


Agreed. I've seen AVG working on both XP and 98, and it seems to work well -
in particular, it seems to look after updating itself very well (engine and
data files). Can't speak for it's resource hoggery or otherwise though;
haven't noticed any hit, but then it's always been not-too-slow machines
I've seen it on. (Doesn't seem to slow my 3xx MHz laptop, though.)
[]
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

[]
I keep thinking of Ace Ventura, when I see that; I haven't seen the film
though, so it may be inappropriate!


 




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