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Old July 21st 04, 09:05 AM
Paul D.Smith
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Default Windows 98 with preinstalled Windows NT

Apologies if this is a FAQ - I haven't found the answer scanning the web and
I'm now thoroughly confused.

Background:

Windows NT installed on a PC with 2 x 4GB SCSI disks.
Disk 0, Drive C: has WinNT plus some stuff.
Disk 1, Drive D: is empty.

Need to installed Windows 98 since daughters' games need DirectX v4 and
happen to have a copy of Windows 98 to hand.

Aside: Why stick with Windows NT at all you ask? Because it's rock-solid
and after "bed time" it gives me another PC so my wife and I don't have to
fight for our main PC! My experiences with Windows 98 are that it's a pile
of expletive deleted for doing real work! Last blue screen with Windows
NT? So long ago I honestly can't remember. PC is up 24x7x365.25. Need I
say more?

Plan:

Modify boot.ini for Windows NT to include "boot from disk 1, Windows 98"
option.
Trash disk 1 and install Windows 98 on there.
Reboot and hope!

So, will this work? I've seen lots of strange discussions about having to
create a FAT16 on the primary drive but I thought that the Windows NT boot
loader, with its nice little menu, took care of all that crap.

Aside: I know about NTFS, FAT32 issues. I'm intending to use the drivers
from http://www.sysinternals.com to provide read/write from NT to FAT32 and
read-only from Windows 98 to NTFS, although I don't really care if the
latter doesn't work!

Thoughts?
Paul DS.

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Old July 21st 04, 02:43 PM
Ron Badour
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Default Windows 98 with preinstalled Windows NT

The easiest way to do this is:

Get a boot manager that is capable of booting from the second physical
drive. I use:

BootIt Next Generation is available from: http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/
and it does partitioning, makes a compressed image, does many other
partitioning chores and is a boot manager. It is not quite as easy to use
as Partition Magic but it is half the cost and has more features. Unlike
the crippled PMagic demo, BING is a *full function* demo you can try for
FREE for 30 days. The web site has a lot of support articles.

You didn't state how the hard drives are mounted. If drive 1 is slaved to
drive 0, reverse them. What you will want to do is get drive 1 to be the
active drive since W98 has to boot from a fat partition on the first drive.
You could also do it by shrinking the NT partition on the first drive and
make a boot partition but that is a waste of time and space in my opinion.
I would leave drive 0 (NT) unplugged until such time that W98 is installed.
You could copy the W98 files from the CD to the hard drive to facilitate
installation.

You can install the boot manager before or after the W98 installation if you
choose to use one.
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"Paul D.Smith" wrote in message
et...
Apologies if this is a FAQ - I haven't found the answer scanning the web

and
I'm now thoroughly confused.

Background:

Windows NT installed on a PC with 2 x 4GB SCSI disks.
Disk 0, Drive C: has WinNT plus some stuff.
Disk 1, Drive D: is empty.

Need to installed Windows 98 since daughters' games need DirectX v4 and
happen to have a copy of Windows 98 to hand.

Aside: Why stick with Windows NT at all you ask? Because it's rock-solid
and after "bed time" it gives me another PC so my wife and I don't have to
fight for our main PC! My experiences with Windows 98 are that it's a

pile
of expletive deleted for doing real work! Last blue screen with Windows
NT? So long ago I honestly can't remember. PC is up 24x7x365.25. Need I
say more?

Plan:

Modify boot.ini for Windows NT to include "boot from disk 1, Windows 98"
option.
Trash disk 1 and install Windows 98 on there.
Reboot and hope!

So, will this work? I've seen lots of strange discussions about having to
create a FAT16 on the primary drive but I thought that the Windows NT boot
loader, with its nice little menu, took care of all that crap.

Aside: I know about NTFS, FAT32 issues. I'm intending to use the drivers
from http://www.sysinternals.com to provide read/write from NT to FAT32

and
read-only from Windows 98 to NTFS, although I don't really care if the
latter doesn't work!

Thoughts?
Paul DS.

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Old July 22nd 04, 01:14 AM
Jeff Richards
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Default Windows 98 with preinstalled Windows NT

The NT bootmenu procedure does not hide the boot sector from the OS that you
select. Therefore the W98 installation will trash the NT loader and you
won't get the NT boot menu. It is possible to re-establish the NT boot -
people in W2K newsgroup might know how - but it's easier to use a boot
manager that hides itself properly.
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"Paul D.Smith" wrote in message
et...
Apologies if this is a FAQ - I haven't found the answer scanning the web
and
I'm now thoroughly confused.

Background:

Windows NT installed on a PC with 2 x 4GB SCSI disks.
Disk 0, Drive C: has WinNT plus some stuff.
Disk 1, Drive D: is empty.

Need to installed Windows 98 since daughters' games need DirectX v4 and
happen to have a copy of Windows 98 to hand.

Aside: Why stick with Windows NT at all you ask? Because it's rock-solid
and after "bed time" it gives me another PC so my wife and I don't have to
fight for our main PC! My experiences with Windows 98 are that it's a
pile
of expletive deleted for doing real work! Last blue screen with Windows
NT? So long ago I honestly can't remember. PC is up 24x7x365.25. Need I
say more?

Plan:

Modify boot.ini for Windows NT to include "boot from disk 1, Windows 98"
option.
Trash disk 1 and install Windows 98 on there.
Reboot and hope!

So, will this work? I've seen lots of strange discussions about having to
create a FAT16 on the primary drive but I thought that the Windows NT boot
loader, with its nice little menu, took care of all that crap.

Aside: I know about NTFS, FAT32 issues. I'm intending to use the drivers
from http://www.sysinternals.com to provide read/write from NT to FAT32
and
read-only from Windows 98 to NTFS, although I don't really care if the
latter doesn't work!

Thoughts?
Paul DS.

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