Help with logo.sys

You may beg to differ and in this case proves you clearly know little or
nothing about the subject. You are posting to a Win Me NGs and your post
is nothing short of drivel, something which I understand you are well
accustomed to posting. The Win Me default splash screen is part of io.sys
and if a user wishes to have a custom splash then this has to be called
logo.sys and placed in the root of C:\. To state otherwise shows you
simply don't have a clue and would do better posting your trash elsewhere.
--
Mike Maltby



Sugien wrote:

"Mike M" wrote in message
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The name of the file would have been logo.sys and the location the
root of C:\. No other name or location works.

I beg to differ; because I have put a sulogo.sys into the
windowsME instaliation I used for a short time, and it does work as
the start up screen. Maybe you are talking about a Win9x install? I
remember it quite well; because at the time I was a little miffed
that I could not use all the logo.sys files I had accumilated from
win95-win98SE in my WindowsME machine. It took me quite some
searching to find out that Microsoft had changed it for WinME to
sulogo.sys. One of the first things I tried was to do a system file
search for logo.sys, and when I didn't find it I figured they had
done the same as in Win98SE and hidden it inside a .dll and that
simply putting a logo.sys into the proper folder would overide the
default and then removing it would allow it to resume to the
default logo.sys I was also around that same time however playing
about with a free copy of Win2K I had received at the Feb17th launch of
Win2K in
Columbus, Ohio in Feburary 2000, the same one at which I got a low of
SWAG (Software and Gifts) including a Win2K T-Shirt shrink wrapped to
look like a flying window logo, which I still have unopened. Microsoft
got even more shall I say sneeky with WinXP by hiding the
start up screen inside ntoskrnl.exe and you need to use a resorce
editor (I reommend res hacker because it is not only an adaquate one
but free) to change it. As I said earler I can only guess you
are talking about a Win9x machine and logo.sys; because any compent MVP
or better yet a MCP
(Microsoft Certified Professional - because one has to test to be a
MCP; but a MVP is just an elected cudos type of honor) will tell you
the same info I have about sulogo.sys and WinME.

Best thing to do is killfile the coderipper. He will drone on an on over
nothing and really is quite clueless about WinME, among his many other
failings.

He hangs out in the virus source code and hacker groups.....that oughta tell
you what kind of person you are dealing with. And he is considered a fool
in most news groups.

IOW, GET LOST, DIMBULB.....YOU ARE NOT WANTED HERE!! Is that clear
enough????

Heather

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
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In ME the logo.sys is hardcoded into the IO.SYS (IIRC) - you can use any
(suitably modified) bmp file and rename it to logo.sys, and this will
override the default.
sulogo.sys is the logo that ME uses during the initial Setup phase, and is
not present 'live' in the OS - and can be deleted if it is present.
Perhaps you've forgotten that ME is a Win9x OS??

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"Sugien" wrote in message
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"Mike M" wrote in message
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The name of the file would have been logo.sys and the location the root
of C:\. No other name or location works.

I beg to differ; because I have put a sulogo.sys into the windowsME
instaliation I used for a short time, and it does work as the start up
screen. Maybe you are talking about a Win9x install? I remember it
quite well; because at the time I was a little miffed that I could not
use all the logo.sys files I had accumilated from win95-win98SE in my
WindowsME machine. It took me quite some searching to find out that
Microsoft had changed it for WinME to sulogo.sys. One of the first
things I tried was to do a system file search for logo.sys, and when I
didn't find it I figured they had done the same as in Win98SE and hidden
it inside a .dll and that simply putting a logo.sys into the proper
folder would overide the default and then removing it would allow it to
resume to the default logo.sys
I was also around that same time however playing about with a free
copy of Win2K I had received at the Feb17th launch of Win2K in Columbus,
Ohio in Feburary 2000, the same one at which I got a low of SWAG
(Software and Gifts) including a Win2K T-Shirt shrink wrapped to look
like a flying window logo, which I still have unopened. Microsoft got
even more shall I say sneeky with WinXP by hiding the start up screen
inside ntoskrnl.exe and you need to use a resorce editor (I reommend res
hacker because it is not only an adaquate one but free) to change it.
As I said earler I can only guess you are talking about a Win9x
machine and logo.sys; because any compent MVP or better yet a MCP
(Microsoft Certified Professional - because one has to test to be a MCP;
but a MVP is just an elected cudos type of honor) will tell you the same
info I have about sulogo.sys and WinME.

HTH


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--
Mike Maltby



Sugien wrote:

hmmm, ok, I do however remember for the short time I used my WinME,
that I changed the boot up screen by placing a customized sulogo.sys
in a certain folder, the name of which is locked up in having a
senior moment right now s; but which I have stored somewhere in my
archives of help snippets.

Figgs,

The guy's clearly posting way beyond his competence and from what I have
seen this is typical of most if not all of his postings.
--
Mike


Heather wrote:

Best thing to do is killfile the coderipper. He will drone on an on
over nothing and really is quite clueless about WinME, among his many
other failings.

He hangs out in the virus source code and hacker groups.....that
oughta tell you what kind of person you are dealing with. And he is
considered a fool in most news groups.

IOW, GET LOST, DIMBULB.....YOU ARE NOT WANTED HERE!! Is that clear
enough????

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
In ME the logo.sys is hardcoded into the IO.SYS (IIRC) - you can use any
(suitably modified) bmp file and rename it to logo.sys, and this will
override the default.
sulogo.sys is the logo that ME uses during the initial Setup phase, and is
not present 'live' in the OS - and can be deleted if it is present.
Perhaps you've forgotten that ME is a Win9x OS??

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)


That is all well and good; however you can also use sulogo.sys and it will
superseded logo.sys. In fact if both sulogo.sys and logo.sys are present
in the root c:\ the sulogo.sys will show up instead of logo.sys. If you
don't agree let me know; because I would sure like to see if people here are
fair and judge only upon the information given instead of relying on what
trolls have brought in from another group. It would also be interesting to
see if admitted virus authors and such are more welcome then someone that
only wishes to help.


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"Mike M" wrote in message
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You may beg to differ and in this case proves you clearly know little or
nothing about the subject. You are posting to a Win Me NGs and your post
is nothing short of drivel, something which I understand you are well

They you only understand what bias people have to say instead of relying on
what you yourself have seen.

accustomed to posting. The Win Me default splash screen is part of io.sys

I agree
and if a user wishes to have a custom splash then this has to be called
logo.sys and placed in the root of C:\. To state otherwise shows you
simply don't have a clue and would do better posting your trash elsewhere.

That is all well and good, and I have quite more of a clue then some would
care to admit, however you can also use sulogo.sys and it will supersede
your logo.sys. If you don't believe me make two different start up screens
name one sulogo.sys and one logo.sys place them both in root C:\ and then
see which one shows up. Well that is if you wish to find out for your self,
instead of relying on what you have been told. Personally no matter what I
am told about a technical problem I still verify what I have been told; but
maybe that is just me.


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"Heather" wrote in message
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Best thing to do is killfile the coderipper. He will drone on an on over
nothing and really is quite clueless about WinME, among his many other
failings.

He hangs out in the virus source code and hacker groups.....that oughta
tell

Yes I do; but can you think of a better place to find out what the next
malicious bug/hole/what ever will be? The best way to be privy to what the
next next attacking vector or method is to be accepted in those groups where
the people that try and come up with such hang out.

you what kind of person you are dealing with. And he is considered a fool
in most news groups.

in two news groups which I chose to have a little fun and cultivated that
title I may be thought that; but what I am thought to be and what I actually
am are quite two different things.


IOW, GET LOST, DIMBULB.....YOU ARE NOT WANTED HERE!! Is that clear
enough????

Since when do YOU OWN this group??
Maybe others here as elsewhere's where my technical expertise will judge
me by my posts instead of some half baked idea brought over from a group
that was originally chartered BY virus writers as a place to exchange new
ideas and methods of WRITING VIRUS!. Maybe not everyone is a close minded
as you or influenced by 1 a know troll (Laura), and 2. An admitted Virus
researcher (4Q although he calls his little ditties artificial life) not
anti-virus researcher but well let him explain; but as in those groups known
virus writers and such seem to be more welcome then someone that only ever
wanted to help.


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Got that one right!! But are you Certified.....ROFL!! (not certifiable
like Soooooge).

He understands nothing about how the MPV designation is earned, for
starters.

Cheers....and will write you guys later....Figgs

"Mike M" wrote in message
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Figgs,

The guy's clearly posting way beyond his competence and from what I have
seen this is typical of most if not all of his postings.
--
Mike


Heather wrote:

Best thing to do is killfile the coderipper. He will drone on an on
over nothing and really is quite clueless about WinME, among his many
other failings.

He hangs out in the virus source code and hacker groups.....that
oughta tell you what kind of person you are dealing with. And he is
considered a fool in most news groups.

IOW, GET LOST, DIMBULB.....YOU ARE NOT WANTED HERE!! Is that clear
enough????

Incorrect.

I found no way sulogo.sys would be used, whether logo.sys was there or
not.

1. I booted Win ME with no sulogo.sys or logo.sys
The default screen came up.

2. I put sulogo.sys (turned upside down to be obvious)
It was not used.

3. I renamed sulogo.sys to logo.sys (just to check I had modified it
correctly)
It was now used.

4. I put in both a modifed sulogo.sys and a modifed logo.sys
Logo.sys was used.

....Alan
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http://dts-l.org/index.html

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 18:07:04 -0500, "Sugien"
wrote:
I beg to differ; because I have put a sulogo.sys into the windowsME
instaliation I used for a short time, and it does work as the start up
screen.

In fact if both sulogo.sys and logo.sys are present
in the root c:\ the sulogo.sys will show up instead of logo.sys.


"Mike M" wrote in message
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The name of the file would have been logo.sys and the location the root of
C:\. No other name or location works.

Right. Post back if you have any success! I'd be fascinated to know, but
have only seen it mentioned with ref British. Otherwise it is generally
quicker in ME than, eg 98se.

I don't recall previously noticing this, eg messing about with my own UK
settings, but it's the length of time the splash was showing alerted me that
someone else's machine was not set up for the UK. I corrected it with the
correct international settings and the machine reverted to our standard
approx. half-second display. iow the relative length *depending on
International settings used* appears to be set in IO.SYS.

Good luck!

Shane

"Leysan" wrote in message
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Thanks Shane, that is what I was afraid of. BTW I have Canadian settings.
Might just try US settings & see what happens.


"Shane" wrote in message
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The time the bootup logo is displayed is hard-wired. The short display is
the consequence of having British settings. Not sure why this is so in
ME,
but it is. On British versions it just flashes by. You can make it last
longer by setting Windows up (in MSConfig/International) as, eg,
American,
but better to have a fully-working keyboard than a pretty bootup splash.

Shane


"Leysan" wrote in message
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I installed a custom logo.sys file & it works ok...but it flashes by in
about 3 seconds. Barely enough time to view it. Is there a way to
increase
the time it is displayed? Thanks for your help.

Shane,

AFAIK the problem exists if the user chooses to use any code pages other
than the default as the splash goes when a non default code page is
loaded. If the OP is using a French Canadian keyboard that would cause
the problem.
--
Mike


Shane wrote:

Right. Post back if you have any success! I'd be fascinated to know,
but have only seen it mentioned with ref British. Otherwise it is
generally quicker in ME than, eg 98se.

I don't recall previously noticing this, eg messing about with my own
UK settings, but it's the length of time the splash was showing
alerted me that someone else's machine was not set up for the UK. I
corrected it with the correct international settings and the machine
reverted to our standard approx. half-second display. iow the
relative length *depending on International settings used* appears to
be set in IO.SYS.