If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#11
|
|||
|
|||
New PC, ME with old BIOS
Okay, fellers.... I'll remove the "?" devices
in Safe Mode and reboot, and see if it finds enough to proceed to Normal Mode. And thanx. Mart wrote: William asked :- What's your next advice? Shall I try to remove the devices with the yellow question marks? Yes, the fact that the HDD is not in its 'native' environment would mean that any hardware (previously) detected and installed will have the drivers etc., setup for the original PC on the HDD. The 'new' PC may have *similar* devices, but not exactly the same so those original drivers are probably unsuitable, but perhaps not sufficiently so for the newly run PC to want to install fresh drivers. The clue is probably the "PCI Multimedia Device" - possibly a sound card. However, the 'solution' as you already suggested, is to 'Remove' ALL the items you listed in Device Manager (using Dev.Man) - which you must do in Safe Mode. Then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect and install NEW drivers (You might be called on to supply the appropriate drivers as WinMe (re-)detects the 'new' hardware, so you might need any driver disks/CD's supplied with the 'new' PC) Hopefully, that will get you past the "flashing 'dash' prompt" you mentioned in your reply to Zee and good luck. Mart "William B. Lurie" wrote in message ... Okay, Mart, I went thar and looked again. In Device Manager, there are *no* Exclamation Points or errors, but down in "Other Devices" there are 3 yellow question marks....one at PCI Multimedia Device. and one each at USB device. I did full system scandisk including surface check, with no errors found. What's your next advice? Shall I try to remove the devices with the yellow question marks? Mart wrote: Besides Zee's most important question, when in Safe Mode take a look in Device Manager and make a note of any/all errors, conflicts and multiple entries (especially modems, video or sound cards and their drivers). Might just reveal a potential hardware issue. Mart "oops!!" wrote in message ... William, What happens exactly when you start Windows in Normal Mode? Zee "William B. Lurie" wrote in message ... That's the best I can describe it. I have a hard drive from my old PC with ME on it. It won't boot in Normal Mode in my new PC, I suspect because it was mad with a different BIOS. However, it boots just fine in Safe Mode. Is there a way to get around this? (I hope I made it clear enough). Thanks. |
#12
|
|||
|
|||
New PC, ME with old BIOS
"William B. Lurie" wrote in message ... Sorry.....I do no System Restore points. In the ME days, I used to make clones for backup but I don't have those any more. It wouldn't have worked anyway, it was an incorrect suggestion. Zee |
#13
|
|||
|
|||
New PC, ME with old BIOS
If that doesn't work you might want to try also removing the video
controller in Safe Mode which might manage to get you to normal mode albeit in VGA mode until you install the correct driver for the card in the new box. If that also fails then remove ALL device in the Device Manger whilst in Safe Mode and then try booting to Normal Mode. This should then allow all of the new hardware to be (re)detected and the appropriate drivers to be installed. -- Mike Maltby William B. Lurie wrote: Okay, fellers.... I'll remove the "?" devices in Safe Mode and reboot, and see if it finds enough to proceed to Normal Mode. And thanx. |
#14
|
|||
|
|||
New PC, ME with old BIOS
Mike M wrote:
If that doesn't work you might want to try also removing the video controller in Safe Mode which might manage to get you to normal mode albeit in VGA mode until you install the correct driver for the card in the new box. If that also fails then remove ALL device in the Device Manger whilst in Safe Mode and then try booting to Normal Mode. This should then allow all of the new hardware to be (re)detected and the appropriate drivers to be installed. To Mart and Mike M.: I did the first phase. It acted exactly the same, hung at the '-' prompt. I am considering what Mike recommends above, but I hesitate, because if I remove *all* devices, will it necessarily then install new drivers on boot-up? Could I not possibly be in a condition where it won't even boot to Safe Mode? And when you say "ALL devices".....that's quite a list; but you want me to remove everything that appears on the list, correct? |
#15
|
|||
|
|||
New PC, ME with old BIOS
William, Mike's advice is perfectly valid, (thanks Mike) especially now as
its still hanging at the '-' prompt. I realised that I also should have suggested that you 'Remove' ALL devices under these circumstances - but only *after* I'd pressed the Send button g As Mike has alluded, WinMe will (re)detect ALL hardware and (subject to specialised non-MS drivers) set up as if it were a fresh installation. WinMe will install generic drivers if it can't find manufacturers drivers, but should at least get you up and running. Mart "William B. Lurie" wrote in message ... Mike M wrote: If that doesn't work you might want to try also removing the video controller in Safe Mode which might manage to get you to normal mode albeit in VGA mode until you install the correct driver for the card in the new box. If that also fails then remove ALL device in the Device Manger whilst in Safe Mode and then try booting to Normal Mode. This should then allow all of the new hardware to be (re)detected and the appropriate drivers to be installed. To Mart and Mike M.: I did the first phase. It acted exactly the same, hung at the '-' prompt. I am considering what Mike recommends above, but I hesitate, because if I remove *all* devices, will it necessarily then install new drivers on boot-up? Could I not possibly be in a condition where it won't even boot to Safe Mode? And when you say "ALL devices".....that's quite a list; but you want me to remove everything that appears on the list, correct? |
#16
|
|||
|
|||
New PC, ME with old BIOS
Fine, Mart. Just confirm for me that you want me to remove *all*
the stuff in that list of devices, reboot in *Normal* mode? Mart wrote: William, Mike's advice is perfectly valid, (thanks Mike) especially now as its still hanging at the '-' prompt. I realised that I also should have suggested that you 'Remove' ALL devices under these circumstances - but only *after* I'd pressed the Send button g As Mike has alluded, WinMe will (re)detect ALL hardware and (subject to specialised non-MS drivers) set up as if it were a fresh installation. WinMe will install generic drivers if it can't find manufacturers drivers, but should at least get you up and running. Mart "William B. Lurie" wrote in message ... Mike M wrote: If that doesn't work you might want to try also removing the video controller in Safe Mode which might manage to get you to normal mode albeit in VGA mode until you install the correct driver for the card in the new box. If that also fails then remove ALL device in the Device Manger whilst in Safe Mode and then try booting to Normal Mode. This should then allow all of the new hardware to be (re)detected and the appropriate drivers to be installed. To Mart and Mike M.: I did the first phase. It acted exactly the same, hung at the '-' prompt. I am considering what Mike recommends above, but I hesitate, because if I remove *all* devices, will it necessarily then install new drivers on boot-up? Could I not possibly be in a condition where it won't even boot to Safe Mode? And when you say "ALL devices".....that's quite a list; but you want me to remove everything that appears on the list, correct? |
#17
|
|||
|
|||
New PC, ME with old BIOS
William B. Lurie wrote:
Fine, Mart. Just confirm for me that you want me to remove *all* the stuff in that list of devices, reboot in *Normal* mode? Yes, remove _everything_. The one driver that you can't really change in this way is ACPI power management which if present but not supported by the bios on the new motherboard may require a clean install of Win Me to correct. Removing all the devices in the device manager and rebooting will put the system back to the state it would be, driver wise, following a clean install of the operating system. Once you have the system in this state you will need to install the various drivers required for your hardware starting with the chipset drivers for your new motherboard. -- Mike Maltby |
#18
|
|||
|
|||
New PC, ME with old BIOS
PS. if you've not already found out by now - your mouse will probably cease
to function when you 'Remove' it, so you'll have to navigate via the cursor (and Tab) keys to continue - until you reboot and re-detect it. Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... William B. Lurie wrote: Fine, Mart. Just confirm for me that you want me to remove *all* the stuff in that list of devices, reboot in *Normal* mode? Yes, remove _everything_. The one driver that you can't really change in this way is ACPI power management which if present but not supported by the bios on the new motherboard may require a clean install of Win Me to correct. Removing all the devices in the device manager and rebooting will put the system back to the state it would be, driver wise, following a clean install of the operating system. Once you have the system in this state you will need to install the various drivers required for your hardware starting with the chipset drivers for your new motherboard. -- Mike Maltby |
#19
|
|||
|
|||
New PC, ME with old BIOS
Mike M wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote: Fine, Mart. Just confirm for me that you want me to remove *all* the stuff in that list of devices, reboot in *Normal* mode? Yes, remove _everything_. The one driver that you can't really change in this way is ACPI power management which if present but not supported by the bios on the new motherboard may require a clean install of Win Me to correct. Removing all the devices in the device manager and rebooting will put the system back to the state it would be, driver wise, following a clean install of the operating system. Once you have the system in this state you will need to install the various drivers required for your hardware starting with the chipset drivers for your new motherboard. Hmmmmm. ACPI doesn't scare me; the new system has it. But I thought everything would install itself when I reboot in Normal Mode. If it's going to prompt me, and ask if it should go looking for them, that I can live with. But if it just sits there not working, I'll be worse off than I am now. Now I'm scared again. |
#20
|
|||
|
|||
New PC, ME with old BIOS
... But if it just sits there not working, I'll be worse
off than I am now. Now I'm scared again. No, not really William, you won't be any worse than you are now - you'll still be able to boot into Safe Mode. Don't forget that these drivers are required for Normal Mode only. However, you mentioned:- "Other Devices" there are 3 yellow question marks....one at PCI Multimedia Device. and one each at USB device. Have any of these re-appeared (in Safe Mode) since you removed them before? If so, this device (a USB adapter of some sort?) would appear to be where the conflict is (driver issues) and should be electrically disconnected until you are able either determine what it is or find the appropriate drivers for it. Mart "William B. Lurie" wrote in message ... Mike M wrote: William B. Lurie wrote: Fine, Mart. Just confirm for me that you want me to remove *all* the stuff in that list of devices, reboot in *Normal* mode? Yes, remove _everything_. The one driver that you can't really change in this way is ACPI power management which if present but not supported by the bios on the new motherboard may require a clean install of Win Me to correct. Removing all the devices in the device manager and rebooting will put the system back to the state it would be, driver wise, following a clean install of the operating system. Once you have the system in this state you will need to install the various drivers required for your hardware starting with the chipset drivers for your new motherboard. Hmmmmm. ACPI doesn't scare me; the new system has it. But I thought everything would install itself when I reboot in Normal Mode. If it's going to prompt me, and ask if it should go looking for them, that I can live with. But if it just sits there not working, I'll be worse off than I am now. Now I'm scared again. |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
BIOS upgrades - reflashing the BIOS | Bill in Co. | General | 21 | March 25th 08 10:22 PM |
BIOS | Sean | New Users | 3 | March 27th 05 07:30 PM |
BIOS | Sean | Hardware | 0 | March 5th 05 07:27 AM |
bios help | elocm | General | 4 | November 12th 04 09:26 PM |
bios | shep | Setup & Installation | 3 | July 14th 04 09:17 PM |