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Dell Insiron 4000 Laptop hard drive 10gb failed, installed 120GB hard drive but it's not recognised in BIOS.



 
 
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Old September 9th 08, 12:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.win2000.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsme.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Derek[_2_]
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Default Dell Insiron 4000 Laptop hard drive 10gb failed, installed 120GB hard drive but it's not recognised in BIOS.

Dear Group,

I am trying to fix a laptop for a friend. It's a DELL Inspiron 4000 with a
10GB hard drive. Date of latop is 2001, Intel P3 700MHz, 128MB RAM,
original OS is Windows ME.

This HD failed completely, making rattling noises and a "phutttt" type sound
at boot. BIOS doesn't see it. I tried it in another laptop, that also
didn't see the hard drive. So bought a new hard drive of 120GB, smallest
size in pcworld.

I fitted the new 120GB and it doesn't show up in BIOS of the laptop. I
tried the new 120GB in another laptop just to make sure it works, it worked
fine in other laptop. I made an 8GB partition in the hope that the Dell
laptop might see the hard drive, but it still doesn't see it.

80GB hard drive, I also tried one of these. It didn't see this either.

I've looked on the dell forum and it's possible that the laptop might not
support 120GB drive, but dell won't say what hard drive it will support, or
where the limit is. So without a response from DELL I'm stuck.

I'm guessing it's a BIOS or motherboard limit.

BIOS version 15, the newest is in 2002 and it's ver 23. I'm going to flash
this and see if it helps.

Does anyone know what hard drive will fit this laptop? Can you help me get
this working?

Thanks.


  #2  
Old September 9th 08, 01:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.win2000.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsme.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Derek[_2_]
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Default Dell Insiron 4000 Laptop hard drive 10gb failed, installed 120GB hard drive but it's not recognised in BIOS.

Update:
I've flashed the BIOS to the latest A23, it still doesn't see the hard
drive.

Any ideas?

FYI Windows ME was working ok 2 days ago on this laptop, now the original
hard drive makes bad noises at startup and after a while it says that it
doesn't see the hard drive. It also doesn't see the new hard drive.

Old Drive 10GB
New Driver 120GB
Also tried 80GB drive.


"Derek" wrote in message
...
Dear Group,

I am trying to fix a laptop for a friend. It's a DELL Inspiron 4000 with
a 10GB hard drive. Date of latop is 2001, Intel P3 700MHz, 128MB RAM,
original OS is Windows ME.

This HD failed completely, making rattling noises and a "phutttt" type
sound at boot. BIOS doesn't see it. I tried it in another laptop, that
also didn't see the hard drive. So bought a new hard drive of 120GB,
smallest size in pcworld.

I fitted the new 120GB and it doesn't show up in BIOS of the laptop. I
tried the new 120GB in another laptop just to make sure it works, it
worked fine in other laptop. I made an 8GB partition in the hope that the
Dell laptop might see the hard drive, but it still doesn't see it.

80GB hard drive, I also tried one of these. It didn't see this either.

I've looked on the dell forum and it's possible that the laptop might not
support 120GB drive, but dell won't say what hard drive it will support,
or where the limit is. So without a response from DELL I'm stuck.

I'm guessing it's a BIOS or motherboard limit.

BIOS version 15, the newest is in 2002 and it's ver 23. I'm going to
flash this and see if it helps.

Does anyone know what hard drive will fit this laptop? Can you help me
get this working?

Thanks.




  #3  
Old September 9th 08, 02:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.win2000.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsme.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Dave Patrick
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Default Dell Insiron 4000 Laptop hard drive 10gb failed, installed 120GB hard drive but it's not recognised in BIOS.

What is the service tag?


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"Derek" wrote:
Update:
I've flashed the BIOS to the latest A23, it still doesn't see the hard
drive.

Any ideas?

FYI Windows ME was working ok 2 days ago on this laptop, now the original
hard drive makes bad noises at startup and after a while it says that it
doesn't see the hard drive. It also doesn't see the new hard drive.

Old Drive 10GB
New Driver 120GB
Also tried 80GB drive.


"Derek" wrote in message
...
Dear Group,

I am trying to fix a laptop for a friend. It's a DELL Inspiron 4000 with
a 10GB hard drive. Date of latop is 2001, Intel P3 700MHz, 128MB RAM,
original OS is Windows ME.

This HD failed completely, making rattling noises and a "phutttt" type
sound at boot. BIOS doesn't see it. I tried it in another laptop, that
also didn't see the hard drive. So bought a new hard drive of 120GB,
smallest size in pcworld.

I fitted the new 120GB and it doesn't show up in BIOS of the laptop. I
tried the new 120GB in another laptop just to make sure it works, it
worked fine in other laptop. I made an 8GB partition in the hope that
the Dell laptop might see the hard drive, but it still doesn't see it.

80GB hard drive, I also tried one of these. It didn't see this either.

I've looked on the dell forum and it's possible that the laptop might
not support 120GB drive, but dell won't say what hard drive it will
support, or where the limit is. So without a response from DELL I'm
stuck.

I'm guessing it's a BIOS or motherboard limit.

BIOS version 15, the newest is in 2002 and it's ver 23. I'm going to
flash this and see if it helps.

Does anyone know what hard drive will fit this laptop? Can you help me
get this working?

Thanks.





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Old September 9th 08, 03:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.win2000.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsme.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
David B.
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Default Dell Insiron 4000 Laptop hard drive 10gb failed, installed 120GB hard drive but it's not recognised in BIOS.

It is highly unlikely that a laptop that shipped with a 10GB hard drive will
be able to use a 120GB hard drive without installing drive overlay software,
if it all. Many machines of that era had a 32GB limit.

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"Derek" wrote in message
...
Dear Group,

I am trying to fix a laptop for a friend. It's a DELL Inspiron 4000 with
a 10GB hard drive. Date of latop is 2001, Intel P3 700MHz, 128MB RAM,
original OS is Windows ME.

This HD failed completely, making rattling noises and a "phutttt" type
sound at boot. BIOS doesn't see it. I tried it in another laptop, that
also didn't see the hard drive. So bought a new hard drive of 120GB,
smallest size in pcworld.

I fitted the new 120GB and it doesn't show up in BIOS of the laptop. I
tried the new 120GB in another laptop just to make sure it works, it
worked fine in other laptop. I made an 8GB partition in the hope that the
Dell laptop might see the hard drive, but it still doesn't see it.

80GB hard drive, I also tried one of these. It didn't see this either.

I've looked on the dell forum and it's possible that the laptop might not
support 120GB drive, but dell won't say what hard drive it will support,
or where the limit is. So without a response from DELL I'm stuck.

I'm guessing it's a BIOS or motherboard limit.

BIOS version 15, the newest is in 2002 and it's ver 23. I'm going to
flash this and see if it helps.

Does anyone know what hard drive will fit this laptop? Can you help me
get this working?

Thanks.



  #5  
Old September 9th 08, 04:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.win2000.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsme.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Mart
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Default Dell Insiron 4000 Laptop hard drive 10gb failed, installed 120GB hard drive but it's not recognised in BIOS.

As a matter of interest, have you tried FDISK (using your WinMe Startup
[floppy] Disk), to see if it recognises your new HD?

Can't speak for this particular model but it sounds like your failed HD
*may* have taken out the IDE controller as well, as even if the BIOS doesn't
support large drives, it should normally at least recognise your new drive.

Mart


"Derek" wrote in message
...
Dear Group,

I am trying to fix a laptop for a friend. It's a DELL Inspiron 4000 with
a 10GB hard drive. Date of latop is 2001, Intel P3 700MHz, 128MB RAM,
original OS is Windows ME.

This HD failed completely, making rattling noises and a "phutttt" type
sound at boot. BIOS doesn't see it. I tried it in another laptop, that
also didn't see the hard drive. So bought a new hard drive of 120GB,
smallest size in pcworld.

I fitted the new 120GB and it doesn't show up in BIOS of the laptop. I
tried the new 120GB in another laptop just to make sure it works, it
worked fine in other laptop. I made an 8GB partition in the hope that the
Dell laptop might see the hard drive, but it still doesn't see it.

80GB hard drive, I also tried one of these. It didn't see this either.

I've looked on the dell forum and it's possible that the laptop might not
support 120GB drive, but dell won't say what hard drive it will support,
or where the limit is. So without a response from DELL I'm stuck.

I'm guessing it's a BIOS or motherboard limit.

BIOS version 15, the newest is in 2002 and it's ver 23. I'm going to
flash this and see if it helps.

Does anyone know what hard drive will fit this laptop? Can you help me
get this working?

Thanks.




  #6  
Old September 9th 08, 05:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.win2000.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsme.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
BigJim
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Default Dell Insiron 4000 Laptop hard drive 10gb failed, installed 120GB hard drive but it's not recognised in BIOS.

it is real simple you need to try a hard drive that is less than 32 gig in
size.
If that doesn't work, the board is probably bad.
go to ebay for a used drive
"Derek" wrote in message
...
Dear Group,

I am trying to fix a laptop for a friend. It's a DELL Inspiron 4000 with
a 10GB hard drive. Date of latop is 2001, Intel P3 700MHz, 128MB RAM,
original OS is Windows ME.

This HD failed completely, making rattling noises and a "phutttt" type
sound at boot. BIOS doesn't see it. I tried it in another laptop, that
also didn't see the hard drive. So bought a new hard drive of 120GB,
smallest size in pcworld.

I fitted the new 120GB and it doesn't show up in BIOS of the laptop. I
tried the new 120GB in another laptop just to make sure it works, it
worked fine in other laptop. I made an 8GB partition in the hope that the
Dell laptop might see the hard drive, but it still doesn't see it.

80GB hard drive, I also tried one of these. It didn't see this either.

I've looked on the dell forum and it's possible that the laptop might not
support 120GB drive, but dell won't say what hard drive it will support,
or where the limit is. So without a response from DELL I'm stuck.

I'm guessing it's a BIOS or motherboard limit.

BIOS version 15, the newest is in 2002 and it's ver 23. I'm going to
flash this and see if it helps.

Does anyone know what hard drive will fit this laptop? Can you help me
get this working?

Thanks.




  #7  
Old September 9th 08, 06:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.win2000.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsme.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Shenan Stanley
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Default Dell Insiron 4000 Laptop hard drive 10gb failed, installed 120GB hard drive but it's not recognised in BIOS.

Derek wrote:
I am trying to fix a laptop for a friend. It's a DELL Inspiron
4000 with a 10GB hard drive. Date of latop is 2001, Intel P3
700MHz, 128MB RAM, original OS is Windows ME.

This HD failed completely, making rattling noises and a "phutttt"
type sound at boot. BIOS doesn't see it. I tried it in another
laptop, that also didn't see the hard drive. So bought a new hard
drive of 120GB, smallest size in pcworld.

I fitted the new 120GB and it doesn't show up in BIOS of the
laptop. I tried the new 120GB in another laptop just to make sure
it works, it worked fine in other laptop. I made an 8GB partition
in the hope that the Dell laptop might see the hard drive, but it
still doesn't see it.
80GB hard drive, I also tried one of these. It didn't see this
either.
I've looked on the dell forum and it's possible that the laptop
might not support 120GB drive, but dell won't say what hard drive
it will support, or where the limit is. So without a response from
DELL I'm stuck.
I'm guessing it's a BIOS or motherboard limit.

BIOS version 15, the newest is in 2002 and it's ver 23. I'm going
to flash this and see if it helps.

Does anyone know what hard drive will fit this laptop? Can you
help me get this working?


No - it won't work. While it is POSSIBLE some drive overlay might get you
going - those are historically troublesome. You would either need to find a
drive 40GB or less (I would bet it would support up to that) or - better
yet - find a nice refurbished laptop online and purchase it for less than
$500-$600 and know that the usefu life would be much longer than the one you
are trying to revive.

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  #8  
Old September 10th 08, 11:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.win2000.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsme.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Derek[_2_]
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Default Dell Insiron 4000 Laptop hard drive 10gb failed, installed 120GB hard drive but it's not recognised in BIOS.

Thanks everyone for your replies.

I have tried a 30GB hard drive as suggested, this also was not recognised by
the BIOS. It's from a 4 year old sony laptop so I had hopes it might work.

I also tried installing Windows XP and Ubuntu, it won't work without a hard
drive recognised in the BIOS.

I can only guess that there is also a problem with the motherboard, or that
modern hard drives are different to older ones.

The service tag is 151150J.
Dell Inspiron 4000, Windows ME, Pentium 3-700MHz, 128MB RAM, 10GB HDD, 56k
modem.

Is there anything else that I could try to repair this that is cheap?

Is here a spec for the DELL that says the hard drives that it does support?

Thanks.


"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
Derek wrote:
I am trying to fix a laptop for a friend. It's a DELL Inspiron
4000 with a 10GB hard drive. Date of latop is 2001, Intel P3
700MHz, 128MB RAM, original OS is Windows ME.

This HD failed completely, making rattling noises and a "phutttt"
type sound at boot. BIOS doesn't see it. I tried it in another
laptop, that also didn't see the hard drive. So bought a new hard
drive of 120GB, smallest size in pcworld.

I fitted the new 120GB and it doesn't show up in BIOS of the
laptop. I tried the new 120GB in another laptop just to make sure
it works, it worked fine in other laptop. I made an 8GB partition
in the hope that the Dell laptop might see the hard drive, but it
still doesn't see it.
80GB hard drive, I also tried one of these. It didn't see this
either.
I've looked on the dell forum and it's possible that the laptop
might not support 120GB drive, but dell won't say what hard drive
it will support, or where the limit is. So without a response from
DELL I'm stuck.
I'm guessing it's a BIOS or motherboard limit.

BIOS version 15, the newest is in 2002 and it's ver 23. I'm going
to flash this and see if it helps.

Does anyone know what hard drive will fit this laptop? Can you
help me get this working?


No - it won't work. While it is POSSIBLE some drive overlay might get you
going - those are historically troublesome. You would either need to find
a drive 40GB or less (I would bet it would support up to that) or - better
yet - find a nice refurbished laptop online and purchase it for less than
$500-$600 and know that the usefu life would be much longer than the one
you are trying to revive.

--
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MS-MVP
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http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html



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Old September 10th 08, 11:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.win2000.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsme.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Derek[_2_]
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Default Dell Insiron 4000 Laptop hard drive 10gb failed, installed 120GB hard drive but it's not recognised in BIOS.

Hi,

the service tag is 151150J

Thanks.

"Dave Patrick" wrote in message
...
What is the service tag?


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"Derek" wrote:
Update:
I've flashed the BIOS to the latest A23, it still doesn't see the hard
drive.

Any ideas?

FYI Windows ME was working ok 2 days ago on this laptop, now the original
hard drive makes bad noises at startup and after a while it says that it
doesn't see the hard drive. It also doesn't see the new hard drive.

Old Drive 10GB
New Driver 120GB
Also tried 80GB drive.


"Derek" wrote in message
...
Dear Group,

I am trying to fix a laptop for a friend. It's a DELL Inspiron 4000
with a 10GB hard drive. Date of latop is 2001, Intel P3 700MHz, 128MB
RAM, original OS is Windows ME.

This HD failed completely, making rattling noises and a "phutttt" type
sound at boot. BIOS doesn't see it. I tried it in another laptop, that
also didn't see the hard drive. So bought a new hard drive of 120GB,
smallest size in pcworld.

I fitted the new 120GB and it doesn't show up in BIOS of the laptop. I
tried the new 120GB in another laptop just to make sure it works, it
worked fine in other laptop. I made an 8GB partition in the hope that
the Dell laptop might see the hard drive, but it still doesn't see it.

80GB hard drive, I also tried one of these. It didn't see this either.

I've looked on the dell forum and it's possible that the laptop might
not support 120GB drive, but dell won't say what hard drive it will
support, or where the limit is. So without a response from DELL I'm
stuck.

I'm guessing it's a BIOS or motherboard limit.

BIOS version 15, the newest is in 2002 and it's ver 23. I'm going to
flash this and see if it helps.

Does anyone know what hard drive will fit this laptop? Can you help me
get this working?

Thanks.







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Old September 10th 08, 02:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.win2000.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsme.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
DL
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Default Dell Insiron 4000 Laptop hard drive 10gb failed, installed 120GB hard drive but it's not recognised in BIOS.

Usually you would be able to enter the HD details manually in the bios eg
cylinders etc.
But I also suspect you would have to use drive overlay software, with a
large hd.
Seagate site 'may' have such software.
Or try sourcing a hd on Ebay or similar, which is probably your best bet.

"Derek" wrote in message
...
Thanks everyone for your replies.

I have tried a 30GB hard drive as suggested, this also was not recognised
by the BIOS. It's from a 4 year old sony laptop so I had hopes it might
work.

I also tried installing Windows XP and Ubuntu, it won't work without a
hard drive recognised in the BIOS.

I can only guess that there is also a problem with the motherboard, or
that modern hard drives are different to older ones.

The service tag is 151150J.
Dell Inspiron 4000, Windows ME, Pentium 3-700MHz, 128MB RAM, 10GB HDD, 56k
modem.

Is there anything else that I could try to repair this that is cheap?

Is here a spec for the DELL that says the hard drives that it does
support?

Thanks.


"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
Derek wrote:
I am trying to fix a laptop for a friend. It's a DELL Inspiron
4000 with a 10GB hard drive. Date of latop is 2001, Intel P3
700MHz, 128MB RAM, original OS is Windows ME.

This HD failed completely, making rattling noises and a "phutttt"
type sound at boot. BIOS doesn't see it. I tried it in another
laptop, that also didn't see the hard drive. So bought a new hard
drive of 120GB, smallest size in pcworld.

I fitted the new 120GB and it doesn't show up in BIOS of the
laptop. I tried the new 120GB in another laptop just to make sure
it works, it worked fine in other laptop. I made an 8GB partition
in the hope that the Dell laptop might see the hard drive, but it
still doesn't see it.
80GB hard drive, I also tried one of these. It didn't see this
either.
I've looked on the dell forum and it's possible that the laptop
might not support 120GB drive, but dell won't say what hard drive
it will support, or where the limit is. So without a response from
DELL I'm stuck.
I'm guessing it's a BIOS or motherboard limit.

BIOS version 15, the newest is in 2002 and it's ver 23. I'm going
to flash this and see if it helps.

Does anyone know what hard drive will fit this laptop? Can you
help me get this working?


No - it won't work. While it is POSSIBLE some drive overlay might get
you going - those are historically troublesome. You would either need to
find a drive 40GB or less (I would bet it would support up to that) or -
better yet - find a nice refurbished laptop online and purchase it for
less than $500-$600 and know that the usefu life would be much longer
than the one you are trying to revive.

--
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MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html





 




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