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Old June 30th 06, 12:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
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You can take a look at the log files and see if anything there can help.

John

FRANK wrote:
John,

This is what I see when I try to edit the System.ini file.

[boot]
oefonts.fon=vgaoem.fon
shell=Explorer.exe
system.drv=system.drv
drivers=mmsystem.dll
user.exe=user.exe
gdi.exe=gdi.exe
sound.drv=mmsound.drv
dibeng.drv=dibeng.dll
comm.drv=comm.drv
mouse.drv=mouse.drv
keyboard.drv=keyboard.drv

I don't see anthing that says "Display.drv=pnp.drv"

"John John" wrote:


You might not be able to boot to Safe-Mode or use msconfig but after the
first boot the .ini files referred in the articles are on the drive and
they can be edited in a DOS session.

I think like Noel said that the hardware is simply too new for Windows
98 to properly recognize an use it. Time to let go of Windows 98 I think...

John

FRANK wrote:


Yeah, that resolution will not working that early in the win98 install.

I contacted Dell about the issue. They said that this model computer was
never tested with the Win98 OS, and that they can not give support for the
install of it. The last thing I think I can try, is turning off the on-board
video card, and try to use a PCI video card. Unless you have any other
suggestions. If not, thank you for all your help anyway.

"Noel Paton" wrote:



Thanks, JJ
- but I'm not sure how a clean install can do that (per 194721)...and I'm
not sure (been a Looooonnnggg time!) whether msconfig, etc are available at
that point of an install

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

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Try he

Windows 98/Me Setup Hangs During Plug and Play Hardware Detection
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=k...d=1139&sid=312

How to Troubleshoot Computer Hangs During Hardware Detection
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=k...d=1139&sid=312

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/w98?sid=312

John

FRANK wrote:



I turned everything off that I could, and still no luck. Any more ideas.
"Noel Paton" wrote:




NIC is one that often causes problems - so that may be a good one to kill
Sound?? - can't do any harm to turn it off

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

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I changed the option in BIOS for the SATA HDD, to run in Combination
mode(for
use with older operating systems). I could not find any setting for the
actual motherboard SATA options. I tried to install 98 again, and had
the
same issue. Should I try turning off onboard devices(NIC, sound) in the
BIOS?

"Noel Paton" wrote:




Ah - that may be the problem!! - I think your Hard drive is a Western
Digital 160GB SATA2 device - you will certainly have to have the
motherboard
(and drive?) set to use IDE Mode (although I would have thought that if
it
wasn't already set that way that you would not have got that far!)


--
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Ron,

There are no additional cards that I can remove. Here is a copy of the
original hardware configuration. Hope this helps.

1 5120P CORD, POWER, 125V, 6FT, SPT2, UNSHIELDED
1 P9506 ASSEMBLY, COMPACT DISK READ WRITE/DIGITAL VIDEO DISK DRIVE
COMBO,
24X, TOSHIBA SAMSUNG STORAGE TECHNOLOGY, MATRIX CYPHER SMALL FORM
FACTOR
1 CC280 DISPLAY, FLAT PANEL DISPLAY, 17, 1707FPT, BLACK, DELL AMERICAS
ORGANIZATION
1 FK812 KIT, SOFTWARE, OVERPACK, WXPPSP2C, COMPACT DISKETTE
W/DOCUMENTATION,
ENGLAND/ENGLISH
1 YH061 PROCESSOR, 80547, PENTIUM 4 PRESCOTT DT, 630, 3.0, LGA, R0
1 Y9628 INSTRUCTION, DEVIATE-TO-MCSF-L5.5
1 C8639 KIT, MOUSE, UNIVERSAL SERIAL BUS, 2BTN, OPTICAL, LEAD FREE,
LOG
1 J4628 KEYBOARD, 104, UNIVERSAL SERIAL BUS, UNITED STATES, ENTRY,
LEAD
FREE, LITEON
1 F6761 DUAL IN-LINE MEMORY MODULE, 512, 533M, 64X64, 8, 240, 1RX8
1 P9566 ASSEMBLY, FLOPPY DRIVE, 1.44, BEZEL, SONY, MATRIX CYPHER SMALL
FORM
FACTOR
1 YF439 HARD DRIVE, 160G, S2, 7.2K, 9G, 3.5, WD-HAWK
1 WH304 KIT, DOCUMENTATON ON FLOPPY DISK, SOFTWARE, POWERDVD, 5.7


"Ron Badour" wrote:




I doubt that the ram is the problem as W98 has never had a problem
with
512
mb. The Dell you are installing W98 on appears to be fairly new and
the
hardware is probably too advanced for W98. You can try pulling all
cards
but the video card and see if that will allow setup to complete. If
it
does, you can install one card at a time and see what is hanging the
system.
For general info, I tried to multiboot a new Dell for a client about
two
years ago and there were no W98 drivers available for the hardware so
she
had to settle for XP.

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"FRANK" wrote in message
...



Thank you for your response.
The PC has exactly 512MB of RAM in it. Should I still try to use
less
than
that? The user I am setting the PC up for, specifically requested
not
to
run
the OS's virtually.

- Frank

"Noel Paton" wrote:




It's a Dell - what did you expect?

I very much suspect that there's hardware in the G520 which is just
not
compatible with WIn98 - but there's also likely to be a problem
with
the
vcache if you have more than 512MB of RAM installed

If you do have more than 512MB RAM, then the easiest thing to do is
remove
the excess until you've finished loading Win98, and then modify the
system.ini [vcache] section with the line
MaxFileCache=512000
, save it, shut down, add the rest of the RAM, and carry back
on....
If
you
have more than 1GB, you may need to modify the [386Enh] section
with
the
entry
MaxPhysPage=40000
also

OTOH, it's probably easier to use VPC, and install Win98 under that
on
XP
and/orWin2K, and then you can have both 98 and the other OS running
at
the
same time

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

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Hi,

I'm trying to setup a Dell Optiplex GX520, to multi-boot
Windows98,
2000,
XP
pro. I found the knowledgebase entry on microsoft's website, for
setting
this
up. I made 3 partitions. First one is FAT32, and the other two are
NTFS.
When
I try to install the first OS(Win98) on the first partition, I run
through
the install process. After the first reboot, and then it finishes
up
installing the OS, it gets to 16%-Installing Plug and play
devices,
and
it
locks up. I can't seem to get past this.

- Frank




 




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