873009 Update will not install [correction=> 837009]

Thank you, Mart. There are many risks with IEradicator, many preparations
before running it, and many things to fix after running it. I asked a lot
of questions before the procedure, and now more questions are needed as we
are trying to reinstall the necessary updates and repair the aftereffects
of IEradicator. Feel free to keep contributing to the thread.

"Mart" wrote in message
...
FS wrote:-

I apologize to everyone for the length of time it has taken me to get
this
far. Some members of this group seem impatient or irritated with me. I
had to get up the courage to run IEradicator (despite depression and
illness), but I'm very glad I went through the process. It has made me
a
little stronger and a little more confident. I have learned a lot.
Hopefully, others reading this have also learned something.


FS, my apologies to you if you felt that I seemed impatient or irritated.
Far from it. As I said earlier, I missed the early stages of your
thread(s)
and guessed (incorrectly) that you may have been more concerned about
urgently getting your PC running, rather than (rightly) taking the time
to
fully understand the issues involved with IEradicator.

Like yourself and Noel, I too have learned something from this thread -
as I
do just about every day from these News Groups and as I said before, no
criticism or offence was intended.

Mart

Inline.....


Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

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"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
WU claims I don't *need* any more CUs, but obviously there are some that I
do need. It isn't showing me everything that I need to install or
reinstall. The only way to know which ones I really need are by comparing
with Belarc and you as we're doing now.

It's not only cricial updates that are shown in Belarc - but I haven't yet
worked out what their schema is.


In a previous post, I asked if there was a way to reset WU so that it
would
show me things that were previously installed but which are no longer
installed or which are corrupt and need to be reinstalled. No one ever got
back to me on how to do that or if it's possible.

There is no way to do this in Win9x that I know of, unfortunately

The only RUs that WU suggests are Net Framework 1.1 and the Euro Tool.
After Net Framework 1.1 is installed, I will install its SP1. Euro Tool is
not needed. CUs should be installed before RUs, so Net Framework will have
to wait until all CUs are installed.

CUs TO BE REINSTALLED:
-------------------------------
323172 WinMe Digital Certificate Flaw
323255 WinMe HTML Help Buffer
329048 WinMe File Decompression
811630 WinMe HTML Help
812709 WinMe Help&Support
825119 WinMe Help&Support
833989 Microsoft VGX Update
840315 WinMe HTML Help
870669 ADODB Stream Killbit Update
-- BugOff performs the same function (www.merijn.org)

That's as may be - but the patch should be installed, and BugOff switched
off if necessary - that way the protection is from the ground up.

890175 WinMe HTML Help


RUs TO BE REINSTALLED:
-------------------------------
Net Framework 1.1 Redistributable
867460 Net Framework 1.1 SP1
MSN Messenger 6.2
Java 2 Runtime (www.java.com)

QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC UPDATES
-------------------------------------------------
816093 JavaVM 3810
-- Do I need to reinstall it?

Open a DOS Window and run the command JVIEW - see what it reports as the
version. If 3810, then you're OK, otherwise it's best to update it. There
are some programs that won't run properly without a functional msjava - so
it's best to have the latest.

273727 IPX-SPX DoS hotfix
--Not in WU/WUC. Do I need it? I do not use IPX-SPX on this computer, but
the older laptops use that protocol to connect to this computer.
If the protocol is not installed/running on that PC, then other computers
can't be using it to access that PC! - so they must also be using another
protocol, or IPX/SPX is installed.

311311 WinMe UPnP hotfix
--Not in WU/WUC. Do I need it?
Not if you have uninstalled UPnP - otherwise download it from the relevant
KB article
http://support.microsoft.com/default.../311311/EN-US/

314757 WinMe UPnP hotfix
--Not in WU/WUC. Do I need it?
Ditto
http://support.microsoft.com/default.../314757/EN-US/

284564 WinMe Movie Maker Update
--This is not being offered to me as a WU, and it is not in the WUC,
Do you have MovieMaker installed? Do you use it? - either way, the KB
article has also been withdrawn, I assume because the patch has been
superceded (probably by the MovieeMaker upgrade)



Which updates should I install first, or do you want me to wait for the
fix
to try to reset Windows Update first?
Any suggestions for the duplicate network printer issue?
The order doesn't make much difference, although I genreally work in Number
order, and begin with the 8-series numbers, following with the 2/3-series -
just do no more than two or three at a time, with reboots between each set.

Microsoft Virtual Machine (JavaVM)
--------------------------------------
Noel, it said "bad command or file name" when I typed JVIEW at the DOS
prompt. I also tried Start - Run - COMMAND - JVIEW. My JavaVM must have
been deleted when IEradicator wiped out Internet Explorer. According to
this article, the 816093 JavaVM 3810 update will not install if there is no
existing JavaVM installed. I verified this by trying to install the update.
The error said "This setup will only update over an existing version of the
Microsoft VM." The Java 2 runtime at www.java.com is my only option for
Java.

In the mean time, I will install the other Windows Updates one by one,
starting with the HTML Help updates with a reboot in between each one.

Reference:

Microsoft Security Bulletin MS03-011
Flaw in Microsoft VM Could Enable System Compromise (816093)
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS03-011.mspx

MS03-011: Flaw in the Microsoft VM Could Enable System Compromise
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;816093



"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Open a DOS Window and run the command JVIEW - see what it reports as the
version. If 3810, then you're OK, otherwise it's best to update it. There
are some programs that won't run properly without a functional msjava -
so
it's best to have the latest.

Sounds like a plan to me, FS!

Interesting about the jview problem - that shouldn't have happened because
of IERadicator, AFAIK.
However, it's increasingly unlikely that you'll need the JVM for anything,
so I wouldn't bother about trying to reinstall it. the Sun Java may shed
some light on it when you come to install tat, as it checks for the presence
of the MS VM in the process.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
Microsoft Virtual Machine (JavaVM)
--------------------------------------
Noel, it said "bad command or file name" when I typed JVIEW at the DOS
prompt. I also tried Start - Run - COMMAND - JVIEW. My JavaVM must have
been deleted when IEradicator wiped out Internet Explorer. According to
this article, the 816093 JavaVM 3810 update will not install if there is
no
existing JavaVM installed. I verified this by trying to install the
update.
The error said "This setup will only update over an existing version of
the
Microsoft VM." The Java 2 runtime at www.java.com is my only option for
Java.

In the mean time, I will install the other Windows Updates one by one,
starting with the HTML Help updates with a reboot in between each one.

Reference:

Microsoft Security Bulletin MS03-011
Flaw in Microsoft VM Could Enable System Compromise (816093)
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS03-011.mspx

MS03-011: Flaw in the Microsoft VM Could Enable System Compromise
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;816093



"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Open a DOS Window and run the command JVIEW - see what it reports as the
version. If 3810, then you're OK, otherwise it's best to update it. There
are some programs that won't run properly without a functional msjava -
so
it's best to have the latest.

JavaVM
---------
The JavaVM was definitely installed BEFORE I ran IEradicator, because I
verified it myself with the exact same procedure not that long ago. If
there is any problem installing Sun Java 2 Run Time, I'll let you know.

*** Which one should be installed first?
1. Net Framework 1.1 and its service pack
2. Java 2 Runtime

A System Restore test has been completed successfully. It works. I have set
a restore point. All Windows Updates have been installed that I am able to
install. Let me know which of the two above should be installed first.

IE/OE UPDATES
-------------------
These Internet Explorer 6 SP1 updates (and probably other types of updates)
have to be installed in a certain order, or not all of them will install.
Dates are important, and I did not realize just how important. The lower
the number numerically in the series (whether 8 series, 2 series or 3
series), the earlier the update came out. Now some updates were re-released
at later times, so all these factors decide the order in which they should
be installed.

Some updates will not install unless others are already installed, and an
earlier update may not always install over a later update. In some cases,
yes, in others, no. That is most likely why 837009 would not install
originally, and why we had to force it to install with those special
instructions you provided.

The Windows Update site does not list its updates by date. The Windows
Update Catalog does, but not by default. You have to configure it manually.
Other users probably ran into trouble as I did by installing the wrong
updates first. All this research is going to help me next time. Hopefully,
it will help others too.

I installed the IE/OE updates in this order:
889293 Nov04
887797 Dec04
837009 Apr04 [failed to install, later installed by force]
833989 Oct04
813951 Nov03 [failed to install]
810847 Feb03 [failed to install]
813951 Nov03 [failed to install again]
889669 Dec04

Next time I will install them in this order:
810847 Feb03
330994 Apr03
813951 Nov03
837009 Apr04
833989 Oct04
887797 Dec04
889293 Nov04
889669 Dec04

WINDOWS MEDIA UPDATES
-----------------------------------
828026 WMP 6.4, 7.1, 9 URL Script Update
832353 WMP 9 Hotfix for 828026
837272 WMP 9 Update Apr04

I installed them in this order: 828026, 837272, 832353.
It should have been in this order: 828026, 832353, 837252.

832353 seems to have installed successfully, but it does not show up in
Belarc, so I do not know. There may be a problem because I installed it
overtop 837272, and 837272 is a later update. On the other hand, maybe not
all Windows Updates are supposed to show in Belarc. 832353 is a hotfix to
"fix" 828026, a previous update.

OTHER UPDATES
---------------------
As mentioned earlier, everyt update is installed that I am able to install,
except Net Framework and Java 2 Runtime. They probably will not verify in
Belarc (like Internet Explorer). After they're installed, I'll reinstall
MSN Messenger and my other software and re-enable security programs. Once
everything is back up and working, the computer will need to be defragged.
I will post the updated Belarc report later.

Not every update shows up in Belarc, but I kept track of which ones showed
up and which ones did not. All the WinMe and WMP updates that showed up in
Belarc are verified. The 870669 ADODB stream update appears in the Data
Access category, and it is verified.

Security Break
---------------
It's time for another security break. Since I have had to have my firewall,
antivirus, and security programs disabled all the while I've been
communicating with you and installing updates, I'd better temporarily
reactivate them (except ZoneAlarm) and do full system scans again -- just
in case any nasties crept in during the last few days. I have been on the
Internet and downloaded email and news, but I've been careful what sites
I've visited and have deleted all emails (without opening them) from anyone
unfamiliar.

When the scans are done, I'll get rid of any junk, get a stable registry,
and create a new restore point before installing either Net Framework or
Java. Let me know which one to install first. I really do not mind running
these extra scans. I've put a lot of work into this computer the last two
weeks, and I want to keep it clean and protected. I may even do another set
of scans before opening ZoneAlarm for the first time. More about ZoneAlarm
in a minute.

SpywareGuard and SpywareBlaster became corrupted, displayed error messages,
and refused to open. I had to uninstall them. They'll be reinstalled after
Net Framework and Java are on here. If I ever have to run IEradicator
again, I will be sure to uninstall SpywareGuard and SpywareBlaster first.

Spybot, Ad-Aware, A2, and eTrust EZAntiVirus seem to be okay. I don't know
about ZoneAlarm. You advised me not to open that until after all the
updates are installed. It will detect MANY changes to the system. I have
all my settings backed up in an XML file, just in case ZoneAlarm does get
corrupted and needs to be uninstalled and reinstalled.

I'll be checking in with you later on the newsgroups so you can tell me
which update to install next. Thanks, Noel, for all the help you've given
me so far. Thanks to everyone else who also contributed to this thread.

ForestSpirit



"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Sounds like a plan to me, FS!

Interesting about the jview problem - that shouldn't have happened
because
of IERadicator, AFAIK.
However, it's increasingly unlikely that you'll need the JVM for
anything,
so I wouldn't bother about trying to reinstall it. the Sun Java may shed
some light on it when you come to install that, as it checks for the
presence
of the MS VM in the process.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
Microsoft Virtual Machine (JavaVM)
--------------------------------------
Noel, it said "bad command or file name" when I typed JVIEW at the DOS
prompt. I also tried Start - Run - COMMAND - JVIEW. My JavaVM must have
been deleted when IEradicator wiped out Internet Explorer. According to
this article, the 816093 JavaVM 3810 update will not install if there
is
no
existing JavaVM installed. I verified this by trying to install the
update.
The error said "This setup will only update over an existing version of
the
Microsoft VM." The Java 2 runtime at www.java.com is my only option for
Java.

In the mean time, I will install the other Windows Updates one by one,
starting with the HTML Help updates with a reboot in between each one.

Reference:

Microsoft Security Bulletin MS03-011
Flaw in Microsoft VM Could Enable System Compromise (816093)
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS03-011.mspx

MS03-011: Flaw in the Microsoft VM Could Enable System Compromise
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;816093



"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Open a DOS Window and run the command JVIEW - see what it reports as
the
version. If 3810, then you're OK, otherwise it's best to update it.
There
are some programs that won't run properly without a functional
msjava -
so
it's best to have the latest.

macht's nichts..... or to put it another way,.....
It doesn't really make any difference, they are two totally different
technologies.


I said to install update in the KB order - so why did you install them in
another (seemingly completely random) order?

Many updates will have been superseded by more recent ones - run Belarc and
check than nothing's actually broken!



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
JavaVM
---------
The JavaVM was definitely installed BEFORE I ran IEradicator, because I
verified it myself with the exact same procedure not that long ago. If
there is any problem installing Sun Java 2 Run Time, I'll let you know.

*** Which one should be installed first?
1. Net Framework 1.1 and its service pack
2. Java 2 Runtime

A System Restore test has been completed successfully. It works. I have
set
a restore point. All Windows Updates have been installed that I am able to
install. Let me know which of the two above should be installed first.

IE/OE UPDATES
-------------------
These Internet Explorer 6 SP1 updates (and probably other types of
updates)
have to be installed in a certain order, or not all of them will install.
Dates are important, and I did not realize just how important. The lower
the number numerically in the series (whether 8 series, 2 series or 3
series), the earlier the update came out. Now some updates were
re-released
at later times, so all these factors decide the order in which they should
be installed.

Some updates will not install unless others are already installed, and an
earlier update may not always install over a later update. In some cases,
yes, in others, no. That is most likely why 837009 would not install
originally, and why we had to force it to install with those special
instructions you provided.

The Windows Update site does not list its updates by date. The Windows
Update Catalog does, but not by default. You have to configure it
manually.
Other users probably ran into trouble as I did by installing the wrong
updates first. All this research is going to help me next time. Hopefully,
it will help others too.

I installed the IE/OE updates in this order:
889293 Nov04
887797 Dec04
837009 Apr04 [failed to install, later installed by force]
833989 Oct04
813951 Nov03 [failed to install]
810847 Feb03 [failed to install]
813951 Nov03 [failed to install again]
889669 Dec04

Next time I will install them in this order:
810847 Feb03
330994 Apr03
813951 Nov03
837009 Apr04
833989 Oct04
887797 Dec04
889293 Nov04
889669 Dec04

WINDOWS MEDIA UPDATES
-----------------------------------
828026 WMP 6.4, 7.1, 9 URL Script Update
832353 WMP 9 Hotfix for 828026
837272 WMP 9 Update Apr04

I installed them in this order: 828026, 837272, 832353.
It should have been in this order: 828026, 832353, 837252.

832353 seems to have installed successfully, but it does not show up in
Belarc, so I do not know. There may be a problem because I installed it
overtop 837272, and 837272 is a later update. On the other hand, maybe not
all Windows Updates are supposed to show in Belarc. 832353 is a hotfix to
"fix" 828026, a previous update.

OTHER UPDATES
---------------------
As mentioned earlier, everyt update is installed that I am able to
install,
except Net Framework and Java 2 Runtime. They probably will not verify in
Belarc (like Internet Explorer). After they're installed, I'll reinstall
MSN Messenger and my other software and re-enable security programs. Once
everything is back up and working, the computer will need to be defragged.
I will post the updated Belarc report later.

Not every update shows up in Belarc, but I kept track of which ones showed
up and which ones did not. All the WinMe and WMP updates that showed up in
Belarc are verified. The 870669 ADODB stream update appears in the Data
Access category, and it is verified.

Security Break
---------------
It's time for another security break. Since I have had to have my
firewall,
antivirus, and security programs disabled all the while I've been
communicating with you and installing updates, I'd better temporarily
reactivate them (except ZoneAlarm) and do full system scans again -- just
in case any nasties crept in during the last few days. I have been on the
Internet and downloaded email and news, but I've been careful what sites
I've visited and have deleted all emails (without opening them) from
anyone
unfamiliar.

When the scans are done, I'll get rid of any junk, get a stable registry,
and create a new restore point before installing either Net Framework or
Java. Let me know which one to install first. I really do not mind running
these extra scans. I've put a lot of work into this computer the last two
weeks, and I want to keep it clean and protected. I may even do another
set
of scans before opening ZoneAlarm for the first time. More about ZoneAlarm
in a minute.

SpywareGuard and SpywareBlaster became corrupted, displayed error
messages,
and refused to open. I had to uninstall them. They'll be reinstalled after
Net Framework and Java are on here. If I ever have to run IEradicator
again, I will be sure to uninstall SpywareGuard and SpywareBlaster first.

Spybot, Ad-Aware, A2, and eTrust EZAntiVirus seem to be okay. I don't know
about ZoneAlarm. You advised me not to open that until after all the
updates are installed. It will detect MANY changes to the system. I have
all my settings backed up in an XML file, just in case ZoneAlarm does get
corrupted and needs to be uninstalled and reinstalled.

I'll be checking in with you later on the newsgroups so you can tell me
which update to install next. Thanks, Noel, for all the help you've given
me so far. Thanks to everyone else who also contributed to this thread.

ForestSpirit



"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Sounds like a plan to me, FS!

Interesting about the jview problem - that shouldn't have happened
because
of IERadicator, AFAIK.
However, it's increasingly unlikely that you'll need the JVM for
anything,
so I wouldn't bother about trying to reinstall it. the Sun Java may shed
some light on it when you come to install that, as it checks for the
presence
of the MS VM in the process.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
Microsoft Virtual Machine (JavaVM)
--------------------------------------
Noel, it said "bad command or file name" when I typed JVIEW at the DOS
prompt. I also tried Start - Run - COMMAND - JVIEW. My JavaVM must have
been deleted when IEradicator wiped out Internet Explorer. According to
this article, the 816093 JavaVM 3810 update will not install if there
is
no
existing JavaVM installed. I verified this by trying to install the
update.
The error said "This setup will only update over an existing version of
the
Microsoft VM." The Java 2 runtime at www.java.com is my only option for
Java.

In the mean time, I will install the other Windows Updates one by one,
starting with the HTML Help updates with a reboot in between each one.

Reference:

Microsoft Security Bulletin MS03-011
Flaw in Microsoft VM Could Enable System Compromise (816093)
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS03-011.mspx

MS03-011: Flaw in the Microsoft VM Could Enable System Compromise
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;816093



"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Open a DOS Window and run the command JVIEW - see what it reports as
the
version. If 3810, then you're OK, otherwise it's best to update it.
There
are some programs that won't run properly without a functional
msjava -
so
it's best to have the latest.

Sorry. I didn't mean to install the updates out of order. I guess I just
wasn't thinking. Nothing seems to be broken in Belarc. One correction to my
last post. I had said that 870669 was verified, but it isn't. I am going to
install Java 2 Runtime now.

Installed Microsoft Hotfixes [Back to Top]
DataAccess
Q329414-25 on 1/9/2005 (details...)
KB870669 (details...)
Internet Explorer
SP1 (SP1)
Q833989 (details...)
Q837009 (details...)
Q887797 (details...)
Q889293 (details...)
Q889669 (details...)
MSXML4
Q317244 on 1/29/2005 (details...)
Windows Media Player
* WM828026 (details...)
* KB837272 (details...)
WinME
* UPD273017 (details...)
WinME (continued)
* UPD273727 (details...)
* UPD273991 (details...)
* UPD290700 (details...)
* UPD311311 (details...)
* UPD314757 (details...)
* UPD323172 (details...)
* UPD323255 (details...)
* UPD329048 (details...)
* UPD329115 (details...)
* UPD811630 (details...)
* UPD812709 (details...)
* UPDQ823559 (details...)
* UPD825119 (details...)
* UPD840315 (details...)
* UPD890175 (details...)





"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
macht's nichts..... or to put it another way,.....
It doesn't really make any difference, they are two totally different
technologies.


I said to install update in the KB order - so why did you install them in
another (seemingly completely random) order?

Many updates will have been superseded by more recent ones - run Belarc
and
check than nothing's actually broken!



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
JavaVM
---------
The JavaVM was definitely installed BEFORE I ran IEradicator, because I
verified it myself with the exact same procedure not that long ago. If
there is any problem installing Sun Java 2 Run Time, I'll let you know.

*** Which one should be installed first?
1. Net Framework 1.1 and its service pack
2. Java 2 Runtime

A System Restore test has been completed successfully. It works. I have
set
a restore point. All Windows Updates have been installed that I am able
to
install. Let me know which of the two above should be installed first.

IE/OE UPDATES
-------------------
These Internet Explorer 6 SP1 updates (and probably other types of
updates)
have to be installed in a certain order, or not all of them will
install.
Dates are important, and I did not realize just how important. The
lower
the number numerically in the series (whether 8 series, 2 series or 3
series), the earlier the update came out. Now some updates were
re-released
at later times, so all these factors decide the order in which they
should
be installed.

Some updates will not install unless others are already installed, and
an
earlier update may not always install over a later update. In some
cases,
yes, in others, no. That is most likely why 837009 would not install
originally, and why we had to force it to install with those special
instructions you provided.

The Windows Update site does not list its updates by date. The Windows
Update Catalog does, but not by default. You have to configure it
manually.
Other users probably ran into trouble as I did by installing the wrong
updates first. All this research is going to help me next time.
Hopefully,
it will help others too.

I installed the IE/OE updates in this order:
889293 Nov04
887797 Dec04
837009 Apr04 [failed to install, later installed by force]
833989 Oct04
813951 Nov03 [failed to install]
810847 Feb03 [failed to install]
813951 Nov03 [failed to install again]
889669 Dec04

Next time I will install them in this order:
810847 Feb03
330994 Apr03
813951 Nov03
837009 Apr04
833989 Oct04
887797 Dec04
889293 Nov04
889669 Dec04

WINDOWS MEDIA UPDATES
-----------------------------------
828026 WMP 6.4, 7.1, 9 URL Script Update
832353 WMP 9 Hotfix for 828026
837272 WMP 9 Update Apr04

I installed them in this order: 828026, 837272, 832353.
It should have been in this order: 828026, 832353, 837252.

832353 seems to have installed successfully, but it does not show up in
Belarc, so I do not know. There may be a problem because I installed it
overtop 837272, and 837272 is a later update. On the other hand, maybe
not
all Windows Updates are supposed to show in Belarc. 832353 is a hotfix
to
"fix" 828026, a previous update.

OTHER UPDATES
---------------------
As mentioned earlier, everyt update is installed that I am able to
install,
except Net Framework and Java 2 Runtime. They probably will not verify
in
Belarc (like Internet Explorer). After they're installed, I'll
reinstall
MSN Messenger and my other software and re-enable security programs.
Once
everything is back up and working, the computer will need to be
defragged.
I will post the updated Belarc report later.

Not every update shows up in Belarc, but I kept track of which ones
showed
up and which ones did not. All the WinMe and WMP updates that showed up
in
Belarc are verified. The 870669 ADODB stream update appears in the Data
Access category, and it is verified.

Security Break
---------------
It's time for another security break. Since I have had to have my
firewall,
antivirus, and security programs disabled all the while I've been
communicating with you and installing updates, I'd better temporarily
reactivate them (except ZoneAlarm) and do full system scans again --
just
in case any nasties crept in during the last few days. I have been on
the
Internet and downloaded email and news, but I've been careful what
sites
I've visited and have deleted all emails (without opening them) from
anyone
unfamiliar.

When the scans are done, I'll get rid of any junk, get a stable
registry,
and create a new restore point before installing either Net Framework
or
Java. Let me know which one to install first. I really do not mind
running
these extra scans. I've put a lot of work into this computer the last
two
weeks, and I want to keep it clean and protected. I may even do another
set
of scans before opening ZoneAlarm for the first time. More about
ZoneAlarm
in a minute.

SpywareGuard and SpywareBlaster became corrupted, displayed error
messages,
and refused to open. I had to uninstall them. They'll be reinstalled
after
Net Framework and Java are on here. If I ever have to run IEradicator
again, I will be sure to uninstall SpywareGuard and SpywareBlaster
first.

Spybot, Ad-Aware, A2, and eTrust EZAntiVirus seem to be okay. I don't
know
about ZoneAlarm. You advised me not to open that until after all the
updates are installed. It will detect MANY changes to the system. I
have
all my settings backed up in an XML file, just in case ZoneAlarm does
get
corrupted and needs to be uninstalled and reinstalled.

I'll be checking in with you later on the newsgroups so you can tell me
which update to install next. Thanks, Noel, for all the help you've
given
me so far. Thanks to everyone else who also contributed to this thread.

ForestSpirit



"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Sounds like a plan to me, FS!

Interesting about the jview problem - that shouldn't have happened
because
of IERadicator, AFAIK.
However, it's increasingly unlikely that you'll need the JVM for
anything,
so I wouldn't bother about trying to reinstall it. the Sun Java may
shed
some light on it when you come to install that, as it checks for the
presence
of the MS VM in the process.


--
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"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
Microsoft Virtual Machine (JavaVM)
--------------------------------------
Noel, it said "bad command or file name" when I typed JVIEW at the
DOS
prompt. I also tried Start - Run - COMMAND - JVIEW. My JavaVM must
have
been deleted when IEradicator wiped out Internet Explorer. According
to
this article, the 816093 JavaVM 3810 update will not install if
there
is
no
existing JavaVM installed. I verified this by trying to install the
update.
The error said "This setup will only update over an existing version
of
the
Microsoft VM." The Java 2 runtime at www.java.com is my only option
for
Java.

In the mean time, I will install the other Windows Updates one by
one,
starting with the HTML Help updates with a reboot in between each
one.

Reference:

Microsoft Security Bulletin MS03-011
Flaw in Microsoft VM Could Enable System Compromise (816093)
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS03-011.mspx

MS03-011: Flaw in the Microsoft VM Could Enable System Compromise
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;816093



"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Open a DOS Window and run the command JVIEW - see what it reports
as
the
version. If 3810, then you're OK, otherwise it's best to update it.
There
are some programs that won't run properly without a functional
msjava -
so
it's best to have the latest.

That looks like a reasonable list (without having checked it thoroughly, at
least - but each machine is going to get slightly different sets of updates
anyhow)

Good Luck with the Java runtime!


--
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"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
Sorry. I didn't mean to install the updates out of order. I guess I just
wasn't thinking. Nothing seems to be broken in Belarc. One correction to
my
last post. I had said that 870669 was verified, but it isn't. I am going
to
install Java 2 Runtime now.

Installed Microsoft Hotfixes [Back to Top]
DataAccess
Q329414-25 on 1/9/2005 (details...)
KB870669 (details...)
Internet Explorer
SP1 (SP1)
Q833989 (details...)
Q837009 (details...)
Q887797 (details...)
Q889293 (details...)
Q889669 (details...)
MSXML4
Q317244 on 1/29/2005 (details...)
Windows Media Player
* WM828026 (details...)
* KB837272 (details...)
WinME
* UPD273017 (details...)
WinME (continued)
* UPD273727 (details...)
* UPD273991 (details...)
* UPD290700 (details...)
* UPD311311 (details...)
* UPD314757 (details...)
* UPD323172 (details...)
* UPD323255 (details...)
* UPD329048 (details...)
* UPD329115 (details...)
* UPD811630 (details...)
* UPD812709 (details...)
* UPDQ823559 (details...)
* UPD825119 (details...)
* UPD840315 (details...)
* UPD890175 (details...)





"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
macht's nichts..... or to put it another way,.....
It doesn't really make any difference, they are two totally different
technologies.


I said to install update in the KB order - so why did you install them in
another (seemingly completely random) order?

Many updates will have been superseded by more recent ones - run Belarc
and
check than nothing's actually broken!



--
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http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
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"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
JavaVM
---------
The JavaVM was definitely installed BEFORE I ran IEradicator, because I
verified it myself with the exact same procedure not that long ago. If
there is any problem installing Sun Java 2 Run Time, I'll let you know.

*** Which one should be installed first?
1. Net Framework 1.1 and its service pack
2. Java 2 Runtime

A System Restore test has been completed successfully. It works. I have
set
a restore point. All Windows Updates have been installed that I am able
to
install. Let me know which of the two above should be installed first.

IE/OE UPDATES
-------------------
These Internet Explorer 6 SP1 updates (and probably other types of
updates)
have to be installed in a certain order, or not all of them will
install.
Dates are important, and I did not realize just how important. The
lower
the number numerically in the series (whether 8 series, 2 series or 3
series), the earlier the update came out. Now some updates were
re-released
at later times, so all these factors decide the order in which they
should
be installed.

Some updates will not install unless others are already installed, and
an
earlier update may not always install over a later update. In some
cases,
yes, in others, no. That is most likely why 837009 would not install
originally, and why we had to force it to install with those special
instructions you provided.

The Windows Update site does not list its updates by date. The Windows
Update Catalog does, but not by default. You have to configure it
manually.
Other users probably ran into trouble as I did by installing the wrong
updates first. All this research is going to help me next time.
Hopefully,
it will help others too.

I installed the IE/OE updates in this order:
889293 Nov04
887797 Dec04
837009 Apr04 [failed to install, later installed by force]
833989 Oct04
813951 Nov03 [failed to install]
810847 Feb03 [failed to install]
813951 Nov03 [failed to install again]
889669 Dec04

Next time I will install them in this order:
810847 Feb03
330994 Apr03
813951 Nov03
837009 Apr04
833989 Oct04
887797 Dec04
889293 Nov04
889669 Dec04

WINDOWS MEDIA UPDATES
-----------------------------------
828026 WMP 6.4, 7.1, 9 URL Script Update
832353 WMP 9 Hotfix for 828026
837272 WMP 9 Update Apr04

I installed them in this order: 828026, 837272, 832353.
It should have been in this order: 828026, 832353, 837252.

832353 seems to have installed successfully, but it does not show up in
Belarc, so I do not know. There may be a problem because I installed it
overtop 837272, and 837272 is a later update. On the other hand, maybe
not
all Windows Updates are supposed to show in Belarc. 832353 is a hotfix
to
"fix" 828026, a previous update.

OTHER UPDATES
---------------------
As mentioned earlier, everyt update is installed that I am able to
install,
except Net Framework and Java 2 Runtime. They probably will not verify
in
Belarc (like Internet Explorer). After they're installed, I'll
reinstall
MSN Messenger and my other software and re-enable security programs.
Once
everything is back up and working, the computer will need to be
defragged.
I will post the updated Belarc report later.

Not every update shows up in Belarc, but I kept track of which ones
showed
up and which ones did not. All the WinMe and WMP updates that showed up
in
Belarc are verified. The 870669 ADODB stream update appears in the Data
Access category, and it is verified.

Security Break
---------------
It's time for another security break. Since I have had to have my
firewall,
antivirus, and security programs disabled all the while I've been
communicating with you and installing updates, I'd better temporarily
reactivate them (except ZoneAlarm) and do full system scans again --
just
in case any nasties crept in during the last few days. I have been on
the
Internet and downloaded email and news, but I've been careful what
sites
I've visited and have deleted all emails (without opening them) from
anyone
unfamiliar.

When the scans are done, I'll get rid of any junk, get a stable
registry,
and create a new restore point before installing either Net Framework
or
Java. Let me know which one to install first. I really do not mind
running
these extra scans. I've put a lot of work into this computer the last
two
weeks, and I want to keep it clean and protected. I may even do another
set
of scans before opening ZoneAlarm for the first time. More about
ZoneAlarm
in a minute.

SpywareGuard and SpywareBlaster became corrupted, displayed error
messages,
and refused to open. I had to uninstall them. They'll be reinstalled
after
Net Framework and Java are on here. If I ever have to run IEradicator
again, I will be sure to uninstall SpywareGuard and SpywareBlaster
first.

Spybot, Ad-Aware, A2, and eTrust EZAntiVirus seem to be okay. I don't
know
about ZoneAlarm. You advised me not to open that until after all the
updates are installed. It will detect MANY changes to the system. I
have
all my settings backed up in an XML file, just in case ZoneAlarm does
get
corrupted and needs to be uninstalled and reinstalled.

I'll be checking in with you later on the newsgroups so you can tell me
which update to install next. Thanks, Noel, for all the help you've
given
me so far. Thanks to everyone else who also contributed to this thread.

ForestSpirit



"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Sounds like a plan to me, FS!

Interesting about the jview problem - that shouldn't have happened
because
of IERadicator, AFAIK.
However, it's increasingly unlikely that you'll need the JVM for
anything,
so I wouldn't bother about trying to reinstall it. the Sun Java may
shed
some light on it when you come to install that, as it checks for the
presence
of the MS VM in the process.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
Microsoft Virtual Machine (JavaVM)
--------------------------------------
Noel, it said "bad command or file name" when I typed JVIEW at the
DOS
prompt. I also tried Start - Run - COMMAND - JVIEW. My JavaVM must
have
been deleted when IEradicator wiped out Internet Explorer. According
to
this article, the 816093 JavaVM 3810 update will not install if
there
is
no
existing JavaVM installed. I verified this by trying to install the
update.
The error said "This setup will only update over an existing version
of
the
Microsoft VM." The Java 2 runtime at www.java.com is my only option
for
Java.

In the mean time, I will install the other Windows Updates one by
one,
starting with the HTML Help updates with a reboot in between each
one.

Reference:

Microsoft Security Bulletin MS03-011
Flaw in Microsoft VM Could Enable System Compromise (816093)
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS03-011.mspx

MS03-011: Flaw in the Microsoft VM Could Enable System Compromise
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;816093



"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Open a DOS Window and run the command JVIEW - see what it reports
as
the
version. If 3810, then you're OK, otherwise it's best to update it.
There
are some programs that won't run properly without a functional
msjava -
so
it's best to have the latest.

Java 2 Runtime installed without dififculty. Net Framework 1.1 and SP1 also
installed without difficulty. All other updates that will install are
installed. I did more research on the few updates that won't install,
specifically files they add or change and the versions. Most such updates
have been superseded by later updates. Not all installed updates show up in
Belarc anyway.

-------------------
Final Belarc report
-------------------
Installed Microsoft Hotfixes [Back to Top]
..NETFramework
1.1
S867460 on 1/31/2005 (details...)
DataAccess
Q329414-25 on 1/9/2005 (details...)
KB870669 (details...)
Internet Explorer
SP1 (SP1)
Q833989 (details...)
Q837009 (details...)
Q887797 (details...)
Q889293 (details...)
Q889669 (details...)
MSXML4
Q317244 on 1/29/2005 (details...)
Windows Media Player
* WM828026 (details...)
* KB837272 (details...)
WinME
* UPD273017 (details...)
* UPD273727 (details...)
* UPD273991 (details...)
* UPD290700 (details...)
* UPD311311 (details...)
* UPD314757 (details...)
* UPD323172 (details...)
* UPD323255 (details...)
* UPD329048 (details...)
* UPD329115 (details...)
* UPD811630 (details...)
* UPD812709 (details...)
* UPDQ823559 (details...)
* UPD825119 (details...)
* UPD840315 (details...)
* UPD890175 (details...)

320920 does not apply to WMP9.
329414 does not apply to MDAC 2.8.
330994 is obsolete.
810847 is obsolete.
813951 adds or changes urlmon.dll. My version of urlmon.dll is higher than
the version described in the knowledge base article.
814078 is installed, but does not show up in Belarc.
816093 failed to install. It is no longer applicable for me since
IEradicator wiped out JavaVM. According to the IEradicator readme,
everything in C:\Windows\Java gets deleted. The readme lists all the
folders that get deleted.
817787 does not apply to WMP9.
819639 states that it requires WMP9 and that if WMP9 is installed, then my
version of it already includes this update.
828750 is obsolete.
832353 is installed, but does not show up in Belarc.
837374 is installed, but does not show up in Belarc.

------------------------
WINDOWS UPDATE
Status 01-31-2005
------------------------
V - Installed and Verified in Belarc
Y - Installed and Blank/Absent in Belarc
(Lacks data for verification or unlisted)

F - Installed and Failed Verification
X - Failed to Install
N - Not Installed
NA - Not Applicable (Obsolete or Replaced by a Later Update)

273017 V IDE HDD Cache Pkg (Me)
273727 V IPX-SPX DoS Patch (Me)
273991 V Share Level Password (Me)
274113 NA WebTV DoS Update (Me)
279328 NA IE55SP1 Update
287564 ? Windows Movie Maker (Me)
290700 V System Restore (Me)
293818 Y VeriSign Spoof Certificate (95-XP)
311311 V UPnP Hotfix (Me)
314757 V UPnP Hotfix (Me)
317244 Y MSXML 4.0 Parser
319303 Y IE Navigation Sound Update (98-Me)
320920 NA WMP 6.4 Update (NT4,98-2k)
320920 NA WMP 7.1 Update (98,Me,2k)
321884 NA Net Framework 1.0 SP2 (NT,98-XP)
323172 V Digital Certificate (Me)
323255 V HTML Help Buffer (Me)
326573 NA MDAC 2.5,2.6,2.7 (NT,98-XP)(see 823718)
329048 V WinMe File Decompression (Me)
329115 V Spoof Certificate (Me)
329414 Y MDAC 2.1,2.5,2.6 MS02-065 (NT,98-2k)
330994 NA OE55SP2 Cum Apr03 (NT,98-2k)
330994 NA OE6SP1 Cum Apr03 (NT,98-XP) (obsolete)
331923 NA OE6SP1 Cum Oct02 (obsolete)
810847 NA IE6SP1 Cum Feb03 (98-XP) (obsolete)
811630 V HTML Help (Me)
812709 V HTML Help (Me)
813951 NA IE6SP1 Authentication Nov03 (NT4,98-XP)
814078 NA Jscript 5.5 (NT,98,Me)
814078 Y Jscript 5.6 (NT,98,Me)
816093 X JavaVM 3810 (95-XP) (existing JavaVM required)
817787 NA WMP7 Skins Download WMZ (98-2k)
819639 NA WMP9 Media Library Flaw (9x-XP) (obsolete)
819696 NA nonDX 9.0b Critical (98-XP)
819696 NA nonDX 8 Critical (98-2k)
823353 NA OE55SP2 Cum Jul04 (Me,2k)
823559 V HTML Buffer (Me)
823718 NA MDAC 2.5,2.6,2.7 (NT,98-XP)
825119 V HTML Help&Support (Me)
828026 V WMP6.4,7.1,9 URL Script (Me)
828750 NA IE6SP1 Cum Oct03 (98-XP) (obsolete)
832353 Y WMP6.4,7.1,9 Fix for 828026 (Me)
833989 Y IE6SP1 VGX Update Oct04 (NT,98-2k)
834707 NA IE55SP2 Cum Oct-Nov04 (98-03)
836528 NA MyDoom Cleaner (98-03)
837009 Y OE6SP1 Cum Apr04 (98,Me)
837272 V WMP9 Security Update (98,98se,Me)
840315 V HTML Help (98se,Me)
867460 Y NF11SP1 (NT,98-XP)
867461 NA NF10SP3 (NT,98-XP)
870669 Y Data Access ADODB Killbit (9x,Me)
873374 Y GDI+Detection Tool (95-XP)
887797 Y OE6SP1 Cum Dec04 (Me)
889293 Y IE6SP1 Cum Nov04 (98-Me)
889669 Y IE6SP1 Cum Corp Dec04 (98-Me)
890175 Y HTML Help ActiveX (98se,Me)
DX90cRds Y DirectX 9.0c Redist (98-XP)
DX90aMDX NA DirectX 9.0a Managed DX (obsolete)
EuroTool NA Euro Conversion Tool (95-03)
IE55SP2 NA Internet Explorer 5.5 SP2 Full (9x)
IE60SP1 Y Internet Explorer 6 SP1 Full (9x)
IEAK6SP1 N IE6SP1 Admin Kit (NT,98-XP)
Jet40SP8 Y Data Access Jet 4.0 SP8 (Me)
JRE150 Y Sun Java Runtime Envir 1.5.0.07 (98-XP)
MDAC28 Y MS Data Access 2.8 (98-XP)
MSNMSG62 N MSN Messenger 6.2 (98-XP)
NF11Rdst Y Net Framework 1.1 Redist (NT,98-XP)
NF11SP1 Y Net Framework 1.1 SP1 867460 (NT,98-XP)
NM301SP2 Y NetMeeting 3.01 SP2 (95-2k)
RootCert Y Root Certificate Update (NT,98-2k)
Script56 Y Windows Script (Jscript) 5.6 (NT,98-Me)
VBRUN60SP6 Y Visual Basic Runtime 6.0 SP6 (95-XP)
WinInst2 Y Windows Installer 2.0 (95-Me)
WinInstC Y Windows Installer Cleanup 2 (95-03)
WinUpdAu Y Automatic Windows Update Bootstrap (Me)
WM9Codec Y Windows Media 7-9 Codecs (98se-2k)
WMP9 V Windows Media Player 9 (98se-2k)

My system is now very stable. Internet Explorer and Outlook Express are
stable and up to date. Noel, unless there's something else, I think we are
just about done with this thread. I'd like to move on and start new threads
on other topics.

ForestSpirit


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
That looks like a reasonable list (without having checked it thoroughly,
at
least - but each machine is going to get slightly different sets of
updates
anyhow)

Good Luck with the Java runtime!


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

FS
WELL DONE!! - you've (I hope) learned a lot in this process - and I've also
learned (which as I said some time ago, is the whole point of these groups)
more than I expected to at the outset - so my thanks to you, also.

Consider yourself a fully-fledged veteran of one of the most difficult
operations you can perform on an ME machine, and award yourself a medal (and
a drink or two, if appropriate!g)!

Ask away. As someone once said "ask, and it shall be given" - if you don't
ask, you probably won't get!

Good Luck

--
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Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
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"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
Java 2 Runtime installed without dififculty. Net Framework 1.1 and SP1
also
installed without difficulty. All other updates that will install are
installed. I did more research on the few updates that won't install,
specifically files they add or change and the versions. Most such updates
have been superseded by later updates. Not all installed updates show up
in
Belarc anyway.

-------------------
Final Belarc report
-------------------
Installed Microsoft Hotfixes [Back to Top]
.NETFramework
1.1
S867460 on 1/31/2005 (details...)
DataAccess
Q329414-25 on 1/9/2005 (details...)
KB870669 (details...)
Internet Explorer
SP1 (SP1)
Q833989 (details...)
Q837009 (details...)
Q887797 (details...)
Q889293 (details...)
Q889669 (details...)
MSXML4
Q317244 on 1/29/2005 (details...)
Windows Media Player
* WM828026 (details...)
* KB837272 (details...)
WinME
* UPD273017 (details...)
* UPD273727 (details...)
* UPD273991 (details...)
* UPD290700 (details...)
* UPD311311 (details...)
* UPD314757 (details...)
* UPD323172 (details...)
* UPD323255 (details...)
* UPD329048 (details...)
* UPD329115 (details...)
* UPD811630 (details...)
* UPD812709 (details...)
* UPDQ823559 (details...)
* UPD825119 (details...)
* UPD840315 (details...)
* UPD890175 (details...)

320920 does not apply to WMP9.
329414 does not apply to MDAC 2.8.
330994 is obsolete.
810847 is obsolete.
813951 adds or changes urlmon.dll. My version of urlmon.dll is higher than
the version described in the knowledge base article.
814078 is installed, but does not show up in Belarc.
816093 failed to install. It is no longer applicable for me since
IEradicator wiped out JavaVM. According to the IEradicator readme,
everything in C:\Windows\Java gets deleted. The readme lists all the
folders that get deleted.
817787 does not apply to WMP9.
819639 states that it requires WMP9 and that if WMP9 is installed, then my
version of it already includes this update.
828750 is obsolete.
832353 is installed, but does not show up in Belarc.
837374 is installed, but does not show up in Belarc.

------------------------
WINDOWS UPDATE
Status 01-31-2005
------------------------
V - Installed and Verified in Belarc
Y - Installed and Blank/Absent in Belarc
(Lacks data for verification or unlisted)

F - Installed and Failed Verification
X - Failed to Install
N - Not Installed
NA - Not Applicable (Obsolete or Replaced by a Later Update)

273017 V IDE HDD Cache Pkg (Me)
273727 V IPX-SPX DoS Patch (Me)
273991 V Share Level Password (Me)
274113 NA WebTV DoS Update (Me)
279328 NA IE55SP1 Update
287564 ? Windows Movie Maker (Me)
290700 V System Restore (Me)
293818 Y VeriSign Spoof Certificate (95-XP)
311311 V UPnP Hotfix (Me)
314757 V UPnP Hotfix (Me)
317244 Y MSXML 4.0 Parser
319303 Y IE Navigation Sound Update (98-Me)
320920 NA WMP 6.4 Update (NT4,98-2k)
320920 NA WMP 7.1 Update (98,Me,2k)
321884 NA Net Framework 1.0 SP2 (NT,98-XP)
323172 V Digital Certificate (Me)
323255 V HTML Help Buffer (Me)
326573 NA MDAC 2.5,2.6,2.7 (NT,98-XP)(see 823718)
329048 V WinMe File Decompression (Me)
329115 V Spoof Certificate (Me)
329414 Y MDAC 2.1,2.5,2.6 MS02-065 (NT,98-2k)
330994 NA OE55SP2 Cum Apr03 (NT,98-2k)
330994 NA OE6SP1 Cum Apr03 (NT,98-XP) (obsolete)
331923 NA OE6SP1 Cum Oct02 (obsolete)
810847 NA IE6SP1 Cum Feb03 (98-XP) (obsolete)
811630 V HTML Help (Me)
812709 V HTML Help (Me)
813951 NA IE6SP1 Authentication Nov03 (NT4,98-XP)
814078 NA Jscript 5.5 (NT,98,Me)
814078 Y Jscript 5.6 (NT,98,Me)
816093 X JavaVM 3810 (95-XP) (existing JavaVM required)
817787 NA WMP7 Skins Download WMZ (98-2k)
819639 NA WMP9 Media Library Flaw (9x-XP) (obsolete)
819696 NA nonDX 9.0b Critical (98-XP)
819696 NA nonDX 8 Critical (98-2k)
823353 NA OE55SP2 Cum Jul04 (Me,2k)
823559 V HTML Buffer (Me)
823718 NA MDAC 2.5,2.6,2.7 (NT,98-XP)
825119 V HTML Help&Support (Me)
828026 V WMP6.4,7.1,9 URL Script (Me)
828750 NA IE6SP1 Cum Oct03 (98-XP) (obsolete)
832353 Y WMP6.4,7.1,9 Fix for 828026 (Me)
833989 Y IE6SP1 VGX Update Oct04 (NT,98-2k)
834707 NA IE55SP2 Cum Oct-Nov04 (98-03)
836528 NA MyDoom Cleaner (98-03)
837009 Y OE6SP1 Cum Apr04 (98,Me)
837272 V WMP9 Security Update (98,98se,Me)
840315 V HTML Help (98se,Me)
867460 Y NF11SP1 (NT,98-XP)
867461 NA NF10SP3 (NT,98-XP)
870669 Y Data Access ADODB Killbit (9x,Me)
873374 Y GDI+Detection Tool (95-XP)
887797 Y OE6SP1 Cum Dec04 (Me)
889293 Y IE6SP1 Cum Nov04 (98-Me)
889669 Y IE6SP1 Cum Corp Dec04 (98-Me)
890175 Y HTML Help ActiveX (98se,Me)
DX90cRds Y DirectX 9.0c Redist (98-XP)
DX90aMDX NA DirectX 9.0a Managed DX (obsolete)
EuroTool NA Euro Conversion Tool (95-03)
IE55SP2 NA Internet Explorer 5.5 SP2 Full (9x)
IE60SP1 Y Internet Explorer 6 SP1 Full (9x)
IEAK6SP1 N IE6SP1 Admin Kit (NT,98-XP)
Jet40SP8 Y Data Access Jet 4.0 SP8 (Me)
JRE150 Y Sun Java Runtime Envir 1.5.0.07 (98-XP)
MDAC28 Y MS Data Access 2.8 (98-XP)
MSNMSG62 N MSN Messenger 6.2 (98-XP)
NF11Rdst Y Net Framework 1.1 Redist (NT,98-XP)
NF11SP1 Y Net Framework 1.1 SP1 867460 (NT,98-XP)
NM301SP2 Y NetMeeting 3.01 SP2 (95-2k)
RootCert Y Root Certificate Update (NT,98-2k)
Script56 Y Windows Script (Jscript) 5.6 (NT,98-Me)
VBRUN60SP6 Y Visual Basic Runtime 6.0 SP6 (95-XP)
WinInst2 Y Windows Installer 2.0 (95-Me)
WinInstC Y Windows Installer Cleanup 2 (95-03)
WinUpdAu Y Automatic Windows Update Bootstrap (Me)
WM9Codec Y Windows Media 7-9 Codecs (98se-2k)
WMP9 V Windows Media Player 9 (98se-2k)

My system is now very stable. Internet Explorer and Outlook Express are
stable and up to date. Noel, unless there's something else, I think we are
just about done with this thread. I'd like to move on and start new
threads
on other topics.

ForestSpirit


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
That looks like a reasonable list (without having checked it thoroughly,
at
least - but each machine is going to get slightly different sets of
updates
anyhow)

Good Luck with the Java runtime!


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)