873009 Update will not install [correction=> 837009]

Should I do the *complete* uninstall of Outlook Express as described here
and then run IEradicator again?

http://www.okinfoweb.com/moe/general/gen_036.htm

Without looking, I'd recommend it.

I've just had the 837009 problem in Win 98se. I had *uninstalled* OE but
later decided I wanted access to the shared OE message store from 98se again
so made the mistake (I guess) I installing the update WU kept saying I
needed.

What it did was re-install OE5.0 though my IE version was at 6.0sp1. So I
re-installed OE as the missing components in a full IE 6.0sp1 re-install.

Then I re-installed the latest IE/OE cumulative updates and thereafter got
offered 837009 at WU. The copy of 837009 I have saved to disk wouldn't run -
saying *this update requires IE 6.0sp1 to be installed*, a message usually
associated with attempting to install an earlier cumulative update over a
later one - while it would from WU, but never register as installed despite
installation history saying it had.

I didn't investigate long, I just deleted the superfluous Win 98se partition
(I still have ME and XP here ).

I think you'd be well advised to start at IE/OE version parity.


Shane


"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
Should I do the *complete* uninstall of Outlook Express as described here
and then run IEradicator again?

http://www.okinfoweb.com/moe/general/gen_036.htm

Can't really recall the original problem here, FS, nor the need to
'Eradicate IE', but for the 10 days or so it's taken you to get just this
far - and I do appreciate your health issues - perhaps a backup of your
essential data and a 'clean install' would have been a more productive and
efficient route. (20-20 Hindsight g).

However, I would concede that it has probably been a very useful 'learning
curve' (for us all!) which I should hope that by now, is beginning to
level-off.

Good luck with the rest of the quest g

Mart


"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
Should I do the *complete* uninstall of Outlook Express as described here
and then run IEradicator again?

http://www.okinfoweb.com/moe/general/gen_036.htm

I'd have to disagree with you here, Mart
I don't think the original issue has changed significantly in the time FS
has been offline/group, and so the original diagnosis still stands.

WRT the OE/Update issue, then I'd look in Add/Remove P|rograms and see if
the 837009 install is listed there - if not, then check Belarc to see what
it says, before doing anything drastic.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Can't really recall the original problem here, FS, nor the need to
'Eradicate IE', but for the 10 days or so it's taken you to get just this
far - and I do appreciate your health issues - perhaps a backup of your
essential data and a 'clean install' would have been a more productive and
efficient route. (20-20 Hindsight g).

However, I would concede that it has probably been a very useful 'learning
curve' (for us all!) which I should hope that by now, is beginning to
level-off.

Good luck with the rest of the quest g

Mart


"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
Should I do the *complete* uninstall of Outlook Express as described here
and then run IEradicator again?

http://www.okinfoweb.com/moe/general/gen_036.htm

,,,,besides which, a trawl through my archive leads to....

http://www.talkaboutsoftware.com/gro...ges/31126.html

This may not be absolutely necessary - since the 837009 patch may itself be
superseded - but does at least give the user the confidence to proceed by
getting the patch installed, and then updated whatever is broken.
I haven't been able yet to see what is broken in this procedure - I have 7
PC's in front of me at present!g


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
I'd have to disagree with you here, Mart
I don't think the original issue has changed significantly in the time FS
has been offline/group, and so the original diagnosis still stands.

WRT the OE/Update issue, then I'd look in Add/Remove P|rograms and see if
the 837009 install is listed there - if not, then check Belarc to see what
it says, before doing anything drastic.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Can't really recall the original problem here, FS, nor the need to
'Eradicate IE', but for the 10 days or so it's taken you to get just this
far - and I do appreciate your health issues - perhaps a backup of your
essential data and a 'clean install' would have been a more productive
and efficient route. (20-20 Hindsight g).

However, I would concede that it has probably been a very useful
'learning curve' (for us all!) which I should hope that by now, is
beginning to level-off.

Good luck with the rest of the quest g

Mart


"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
Should I do the *complete* uninstall of Outlook Express as described
here
and then run IEradicator again?

http://www.okinfoweb.com/moe/general/gen_036.htm

Noel wrote :-

I don't think the original issue has changed significantly in the time FS
has been offline/group, and so the original diagnosis still stands.
I'd have to disagree with you here, Mart

Quite possible Noel, I obviously don't have the start of this (or apparently
a previous?) thread, so missed the original point. It just 'seemed' to be
prolonged the IERadicator issue and was meant only as a suggestion to
cut his losses. No criticism (or offence) intended.

Headaches can often be relieved by moving away from the brick wall g

Mart


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
I'd have to disagree with you here, Mart
I don't think the original issue has changed significantly in the time FS
has been offline/group, and so the original diagnosis still stands.

WRT the OE/Update issue, then I'd look in Add/Remove P|rograms and see if
the 837009 install is listed there - if not, then check Belarc to see what
it says, before doing anything drastic.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Can't really recall the original problem here, FS, nor the need to
'Eradicate IE', but for the 10 days or so it's taken you to get just this
far - and I do appreciate your health issues - perhaps a backup of your
essential data and a 'clean install' would have been a more productive
and efficient route. (20-20 Hindsight g).

However, I would concede that it has probably been a very useful
'learning curve' (for us all!) which I should hope that by now, is
beginning to level-off.

Good luck with the rest of the quest g

Mart


"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
Should I do the *complete* uninstall of Outlook Express as described
here
and then run IEradicator again?

http://www.okinfoweb.com/moe/general/gen_036.htm

Noel wanted me to check Belarc before doing anything drastic. Thanks for
providing the link for the alternate method to get 837009 to install.
http://www.talkaboutsoftware.com/gro...ges/31126.html

---------------------------
837009 INSTALLATION
---------------------------
837009 has been successfully installed in Safe Mode using this procedu

1. Download the installation file to your hard drive from
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
2. Close browser and delete Cookies, Temp, and Temporary Internet Files
3. Copy the file to the C root directory
4. Rename the file in the C directory to KB837009.EXE
5. Boot into Safe Mode
6. Start - Run
7. Type the following and press enter: C:\KB837009.EXE /N:V
(There are two spaces between EXE and /)
8. Boot into normal mode and see if the issue persists.

The issue didn't persist. Windows Update no longer offers me the update.
IE/OE versions have changed. IE and Belarc now show 837009.

--------------------
IE/OE VERSIONS
--------------------
Help-About shows the following.

MICROSOFT INTERNET EXPLORER
Version: 6.0.2800.1106
Cipher Strength: 128-bit
Update Versions: ;SP1;Q889293;Q887797;Q837009

OUTLOOK EXPRESS 6
Version: 6.00.2800.1106 (before 837009)
Version: 6.00.2800.1123 (after 837009)

---------------------------
BELARC ADVISOR 6.1f
---------------------------
Belarc still does not show the Internet Explorer hotfixes (including SP1)
as verified. Why?

For Belarc, a hotfix that verifies correctly has a green check mark. A
hotfix that fails verification has a red x. A hotfix with no mark beside it
lacks the data to allow verification.

For purposes of this post, * indicates the green check mark.
There are no red X's.

Installed Microsoft Hotfixes [Back to Top]
DataAccess
Q329414-25 on 1/9/2005 (details...)
Internet Explorer
SP1 (SP1)
Q837009 (details...)
Q887797 (details...)
Q889293 (details...)
MSXML4
Q317244 on 1/29/2005 (details...)
Windows Media Player
* WM828026 (details...)
* KB837272 (details...)
WinME
* UPD273017 (details...)
* UPD273991 (details...)
* UPD290700 (details...)
* UPD329115 (details...)
* UPDQ823559 (details...)
* UPD890175 (details...)

329414-25 is MDAC 2.5. Belarc indicates it lacks data to allow
verification. MDAC 2.5 has been superseded by MDAC 2.8. MDAC 2.8 does not
appear here. Is it supposed to?

Why is nothing for Internet Explorer verified in Belarc?

889293 and 837009 appear in Add/Remove Programs. 887797 does not.

889293, 887797, and 837009 all appear in IE Help-About.

889293, 887797, and 837009 all appear in Belarc but have no marks beside
them, which indicate they lack the data to allow verification. SP1 for IE
also has no mark beside it.

Net Framework had no marks either, before it was uninstalled. I have not
yet reinstalled Net Framework.

Outlook Express is not listed under installed hotfixes, and no hotfixes for
OE are listed. They may just be included in Belarc under Internet Explorer.
Outlook Express is also not listed in the Belarc section of installed
programs.

317244 is newly reinstalled and is still not verified.

Also from Belarc, I learned of another minor problem. My network printer
keeps making a duplicate of itself. I didn't mention it before but feel I
should do so now in case it is relevant. I have to keep removing the
duplicate network printers every so often from PRINTERS in Control Panel.
Any idea of the cause and the fix? The local printer is unaffected. Belarc
shows only one local printer but 9 network printers.

------------------------
FURTHER UPDATES
------------------------
Updates that still need to be reinstalled:
Net Framework 1.1 Redistributable
Net Framework 1.1 SP1
MSN Messenger 6.2

I do not want to install further updates until I hear from Noel. Windows
Update does not show any critical updates need to be installed, but I'm
wondering if 833989 does. It was uninstalled before running IEradicator, as
was 317244. Do I need to reinstall 833989 Microsoft VGX Update? MSXML 4.0
(317244) also didn't show up in Windows Update, but I have already
reinstalled that. It is still not verified in Belarc. Net Framework needs
to be reinstalled because of Paint Shop Pro and a few other programs that
use it. I do not know if I need to reinstall JavaVM 3810.

Please indicate any other updates or hotfixes you think I need to
install/reinstall, which might or might not show up in Windows Update or
Belarc. One thing you mentioned was the Java2 Runtime from www.java.com.
Anything else?

At what point will it be safe to re-enable my antivirus, firewall, and
security programs? After all updates have been installed? Looking forward
to hearing from you. If you need further Belarc Information, please tell me
what you need.

We are very close to resolving the issues in this thread. I want to ask new
questions in new threads, but Noel said I need to take care of this first.

About this Experience
----------------------
GOOD THINGS about this experience are that I feel confident using
IEradicator, and my computer has never been faster! Just browsing the Start
Menu, Windows Explorer, and Internet Explorer are faster than they've ever
been. That must be because IE is now less integrated with Windows and has
become more of a standalone browser. Or, it could be that my firewall,
antivirus, and security programs are still disabled. Or, it could be all of
the above.

Even if we can't fix the verification issues, we have gained speed, we are
rid of Norton, and we are rid of all the toolbars and activeX controls that
were installed "automatically" with SBC Yahoo! DSL. Now I am free to
install only the toolbars and activeX controls that I want.

BAD THINGS about this experience are that none of my Internet Explorer
hotfixes are verified in Belarc, including SP1. Is there anything I can do
to get them to verify? MSXML 4.0 is still not verified, and Net Framework
might not verify again either.

Could another program installed on my computer be interfering with Belarc's
verification of Internet Explorer and its hotfixes? Do you want
me to list all the programs installed on my computer? Not all installed
programs use Windows Installer, appear in Add/Remove Programs, or appear in
Belarc. If you need this, I'd have to make a separate post.

I apologize to everyone for the length of time it has taken me to get this
far. Some members of this group seem impatient or irritated with me. I
had to get up the courage to run IEradicator (despite depression and
illness), but I'm very glad I went through the process. It has made me a
little stronger and a little more confident. I have learned a lot.
Hopefully, others reading this have also learned something.

ForestSpirit


References:
-----------
Noel Paton's Uninstalling and Reinstalling IE in Me
httP://www.winnoel.users.btopenworld.com/ReInIE.htm

IEradicator
http://www.litepc.com/ieradicator.html

SRIERfix
http://winnoel.users.btopenworld.com/SRIERFix.reg

Belarc Advisor 6.1f
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html


Noel's Previous Message 1:
-----------------------------
WRT the OE/Update issue, then I'd look in Add/Remove P|rograms and see if
the 837009 install is listed there - if not, then check Belarc to see what
it says, before doing anything drastic.
--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Noel's Previous Message 2:
-----------------------------
,,,,besides which, a trawl through my archive leads to....

http://www.talkaboutsoftware.com/gro...ges/31126.html

This may not be absolutely necessary - since the 837009 patch may itself be
superseded - but does at least give the user the confidence to proceed by
getting the patch installed, and then updated whatever is broken.
I haven't been able yet to see what is broken in this procedure - I have 7
PC's in front of me at present!g
--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Belarc can't verify IE hotfixes, I suspect, because many are cumulative, so
it goes with what it knows needs to be there from the registry entries...

You now need to go back to Windows updates and check for any further
available critical (or other) updates for IE (my VPC install of ME with IE6
has at least two more in Belarc - which may or may not be required on your
machine)
Likewise for WMP and for OE.

Once you have all the available updates from WU installed (apart from the IE
language options!), then we may be able to compare notes.

FWIW, here's my list of Belarc Hotfixes. (note that only the ME and WMP
hotfixes are 'verified')

..NETFramework
1.1 S867460 on 01/11/2005 (details...)
DataAccess
KB870669 (details...)
Internet Explorer
SP1 (SP1)
Q330994 (details...)
Q828750 (details...)
Q833989 (details...)
Q837009 (details...)
Q887797 (details...)
Q889293 (details...)
Windows Media Player
WM308567 (details...)
WM320920.1 (details...)
WM828026 (details...)
KB837272 (details...)
WinME
UPD273017 (details...)
UPD273727 (details...)
UPD273991 (details...)
UPD287564 (details...)
UPD290700 (details...)
UPD311311 (details...)
UPD314757 (details...)
UPD323172 (details...)
UPD323255 (details...)
UPD329048 (details...)
UPD329115 (details...)
UPD811630 (details...)
UPD812709 (details...)
UPDQ823559 (details...)
UPD825119 (details...)
UPD840315 (details...)
UPD890175 (details...)

MDAC
My 'virgin' ME system doesn't show MDAC in the installed hotfixes either -
probably because Belarc don't consider it a core part of the OS.

WRT the higher speed you're seeing - this is NOT because of 'less
integration' (that remains exactly as it was before) - but because there's
less cr&p getting in the way (Norton and such-like)

The fact that Belarc isn't saying that your hotfixes are broken is enough -
it almost certainly would if they were!
..
Don't worry about 'the others' in these groups - the fact is that YOU did
the work of asking the right questions, until YOU were satisfied that YOU
knew what you were doing. Someone (even if not me) would probably have been
able to guide you through the process eventually, you just have to learn to
ignore the inevitable 'background noise' of conducting a tutorial in a very
public place. You seem to have managed that admirably, so far.

You've learned a lot (I hope), and I've learned something too - which is the
whole point of these groups!!
What we've discussed over the past few weeks may mean that the learning
process is shorter for those that come after - so feel free to consider
yourself a contributor to their learning process.

Having also suffered from depression, I am aware of at least some of the
associated problems - which is the point of my sig line.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi



"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
Noel wanted me to check Belarc before doing anything drastic. Thanks for
providing the link for the alternate method to get 837009 to install.
http://www.talkaboutsoftware.com/gro...ges/31126.html

---------------------------
837009 INSTALLATION
---------------------------
837009 has been successfully installed in Safe Mode using this procedu

1. Download the installation file to your hard drive from
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
2. Close browser and delete Cookies, Temp, and Temporary Internet Files
3. Copy the file to the C root directory
4. Rename the file in the C directory to KB837009.EXE
5. Boot into Safe Mode
6. Start - Run
7. Type the following and press enter: C:\KB837009.EXE /N:V
(There are two spaces between EXE and /)
8. Boot into normal mode and see if the issue persists.

The issue didn't persist. Windows Update no longer offers me the update.
IE/OE versions have changed. IE and Belarc now show 837009.

--------------------
IE/OE VERSIONS
--------------------
Help-About shows the following.

MICROSOFT INTERNET EXPLORER
Version: 6.0.2800.1106
Cipher Strength: 128-bit
Update Versions: ;SP1;Q889293;Q887797;Q837009

OUTLOOK EXPRESS 6
Version: 6.00.2800.1106 (before 837009)
Version: 6.00.2800.1123 (after 837009)

---------------------------
BELARC ADVISOR 6.1f
---------------------------
Belarc still does not show the Internet Explorer hotfixes (including SP1)
as verified. Why?

For Belarc, a hotfix that verifies correctly has a green check mark. A
hotfix that fails verification has a red x. A hotfix with no mark beside
it
lacks the data to allow verification.

For purposes of this post, * indicates the green check mark.
There are no red X's.

Installed Microsoft Hotfixes [Back to Top]
DataAccess
Q329414-25 on 1/9/2005 (details...)
Internet Explorer
SP1 (SP1)
Q837009 (details...)
Q887797 (details...)
Q889293 (details...)
MSXML4
Q317244 on 1/29/2005 (details...)
Windows Media Player
* WM828026 (details...)
* KB837272 (details...)
WinME
* UPD273017 (details...)
* UPD273991 (details...)
* UPD290700 (details...)
* UPD329115 (details...)
* UPDQ823559 (details...)
* UPD890175 (details...)

329414-25 is MDAC 2.5. Belarc indicates it lacks data to allow
verification. MDAC 2.5 has been superseded by MDAC 2.8. MDAC 2.8 does not
appear here. Is it supposed to?

Why is nothing for Internet Explorer verified in Belarc?

889293 and 837009 appear in Add/Remove Programs. 887797 does not.

889293, 887797, and 837009 all appear in IE Help-About.

889293, 887797, and 837009 all appear in Belarc but have no marks beside
them, which indicate they lack the data to allow verification. SP1 for IE
also has no mark beside it.

Net Framework had no marks either, before it was uninstalled. I have not
yet reinstalled Net Framework.

Outlook Express is not listed under installed hotfixes, and no hotfixes
for
OE are listed. They may just be included in Belarc under Internet
Explorer.
Outlook Express is also not listed in the Belarc section of installed
programs.

317244 is newly reinstalled and is still not verified.

Also from Belarc, I learned of another minor problem. My network printer
keeps making a duplicate of itself. I didn't mention it before but feel I
should do so now in case it is relevant. I have to keep removing the
duplicate network printers every so often from PRINTERS in Control Panel.
Any idea of the cause and the fix? The local printer is unaffected. Belarc
shows only one local printer but 9 network printers.

------------------------
FURTHER UPDATES
------------------------
Updates that still need to be reinstalled:
Net Framework 1.1 Redistributable
Net Framework 1.1 SP1
MSN Messenger 6.2

I do not want to install further updates until I hear from Noel. Windows
Update does not show any critical updates need to be installed, but I'm
wondering if 833989 does. It was uninstalled before running IEradicator,
as
was 317244. Do I need to reinstall 833989 Microsoft VGX Update? MSXML 4.0
(317244) also didn't show up in Windows Update, but I have already
reinstalled that. It is still not verified in Belarc. Net Framework needs
to be reinstalled because of Paint Shop Pro and a few other programs that
use it. I do not know if I need to reinstall JavaVM 3810.

Please indicate any other updates or hotfixes you think I need to
install/reinstall, which might or might not show up in Windows Update or
Belarc. One thing you mentioned was the Java2 Runtime from www.java.com.
Anything else?

At what point will it be safe to re-enable my antivirus, firewall, and
security programs? After all updates have been installed? Looking forward
to hearing from you. If you need further Belarc Information, please tell
me
what you need.

We are very close to resolving the issues in this thread. I want to ask
new
questions in new threads, but Noel said I need to take care of this first.

About this Experience
----------------------
GOOD THINGS about this experience are that I feel confident using
IEradicator, and my computer has never been faster! Just browsing the
Start
Menu, Windows Explorer, and Internet Explorer are faster than they've ever
been. That must be because IE is now less integrated with Windows and has
become more of a standalone browser. Or, it could be that my firewall,
antivirus, and security programs are still disabled. Or, it could be all
of
the above.

Even if we can't fix the verification issues, we have gained speed, we are
rid of Norton, and we are rid of all the toolbars and activeX controls
that
were installed "automatically" with SBC Yahoo! DSL. Now I am free to
install only the toolbars and activeX controls that I want.

BAD THINGS about this experience are that none of my Internet Explorer
hotfixes are verified in Belarc, including SP1. Is there anything I can do
to get them to verify? MSXML 4.0 is still not verified, and Net Framework
might not verify again either.

Could another program installed on my computer be interfering with
Belarc's
verification of Internet Explorer and its hotfixes? Do you want
me to list all the programs installed on my computer? Not all installed
programs use Windows Installer, appear in Add/Remove Programs, or appear
in
Belarc. If you need this, I'd have to make a separate post.

I apologize to everyone for the length of time it has taken me to get this
far. Some members of this group seem impatient or irritated with me. I
had to get up the courage to run IEradicator (despite depression and
illness), but I'm very glad I went through the process. It has made me a
little stronger and a little more confident. I have learned a lot.
Hopefully, others reading this have also learned something.

ForestSpirit

FS wrote:-

I apologize to everyone for the length of time it has taken me to get this
far. Some members of this group seem impatient or irritated with me. I
had to get up the courage to run IEradicator (despite depression and
illness), but I'm very glad I went through the process. It has made me a
little stronger and a little more confident. I have learned a lot.
Hopefully, others reading this have also learned something.


FS, my apologies to you if you felt that I seemed impatient or irritated.
Far from it. As I said earlier, I missed the early stages of your thread(s)
and guessed (incorrectly) that you may have been more concerned about
urgently getting your PC running, rather than (rightly) taking the time to
fully understand the issues involved with IEradicator.

Like yourself and Noel, I too have learned something from this thread - as I
do just about every day from these News Groups and as I said before, no
criticism or offence was intended.

Mart

WU - Windows Update
WUC - Windows Update Catalog
CU - Critical Update
RU - Recommended Update

WU claims I don't *need* any more CUs, but obviously there are some that I
do need. It isn't showing me everything that I need to install or
reinstall. The only way to know which ones I really need are by comparing
with Belarc and you as we're doing now.

In a previous post, I asked if there was a way to reset WU so that it would
show me things that were previously installed but which are no longer
installed or which are corrupt and need to be reinstalled. No one ever got
back to me on how to do that or if it's possible.

The only RUs that WU suggests are Net Framework 1.1 and the Euro Tool.
After Net Framework 1.1 is installed, I will install its SP1. Euro Tool is
not needed. CUs should be installed before RUs, so Net Framework will have
to wait until all CUs are installed.

UPDATES NOT NEEDED:
-----------------------------
308567 WMP 6.4, 7.0, 7.1, WMPXP.
320920 WMP 6.4,7.1,WMPXP
320920.1 WMP 6.4,7.1,WMPXP
330994 No WU/WUC. Obsolete.
828750 No WU/WUC. Obsolete.

CUs TO BE REINSTALLED:
-------------------------------
323172 WinMe Digital Certificate Flaw
323255 WinMe HTML Help Buffer
329048 WinMe File Decompression
811630 WinMe HTML Help
812709 WinMe Help&Support
825119 WinMe Help&Support
833989 Microsoft VGX Update
840315 WinMe HTML Help
870669 ADODB Stream Killbit Update
-- BugOff performs the same function (www.merijn.org)
890175 WinMe HTML Help

RUs TO BE REINSTALLED:
-------------------------------
Net Framework 1.1 Redistributable
867460 Net Framework 1.1 SP1
MSN Messenger 6.2
Java 2 Runtime (www.java.com)

QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC UPDATES
-------------------------------------------------
816093 JavaVM 3810
-- Do I need to reinstall it?
273727 IPX-SPX DoS hotfix
--Not in WU/WUC. Do I need it? I do not use IPX-SPX on this computer, but
the older laptops use that protocol to connect to this computer.
311311 WinMe UPnP hotfix
--Not in WU/WUC. Do I need it?
314757 WinMe UPnP hotfix
--Not in WU/WUC. Do I need it?
284564 WinMe Movie Maker Update
--This is not being offered to me as a WU, and it is not in the WUC,
Download Ctr, or available for separate download. No way to get it unless
my WU can be reset. Do you know any other place to get this as a standalone
download? The only WinMovieMakerUpdates on Microsoft are for WinXP, not
WinMe.

Which updates should I install first, or do you want me to wait for the fix
to try to reset Windows Update first?
Any suggestions for the duplicate network printer issue?

See also comments inline. We're getting there.

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Belarc can't verify IE hotfixes, I suspect, because many are cumulative,
so
it goes with what it knows needs to be there from the registry entries...

Thanks for letting me know. Same with Net Framework and MSXML 4.0?

FWIW, here's my list of Belarc Hotfixes. (note that only the ME and WMP
hotfixes are 'verified')

.NETFramework
1.1 S867460 on 01/11/2005 (details...)
DataAccess
KB870669 (details...) - ADODB Stream Killbit
Internet Explorer
SP1 (SP1)
Q330994 (details...) - No WU/WUC. Obsolete
Q828750 (details...) - No WU/WUC. Obsolete
Q833989 (details...) - Microsoft VGX Update
Q837009 (details...) - OE6SP1 Cumulative Update
Q887797 (details...) - OE6SP1 Cumulative Update
Q889293 (details...) - IE6SP1 Cumulative Update
Windows Media Player
WM308567 (details...) - WMP 6.4,7.0.7.1,WMPXP
WM320920.1 (details...) - WMP 6.4,7.1,WMPXP
WM828026 (details...) - WMP 6.4,7.1,9.0 URL Script
KB837272 (details...) - WMP 9 Update (Me)
WinME
UPD273017 (details...) - IDE HDD Cache Pkg
UPD273727 (details...) - No WU/WUC. Hotfix for IPX-SPX DoS.
UPD273991 (details...) - Share Level Password
UPD287564 (details...) - WinMe Movie Maker
UPD290700 (details...) - WinMe System Restore
UPD311311 (details...) - No WU/WUC. Hotfix for WinMe UPnP.
UPD314757 (details...) - No WU/WUC. Hotfix for WinMe UPnP.
UPD323172 (details...) -WinMe Digital Certificate Flaw
UPD323255 (details...) - WinMe HTML Help Buffer
UPD329048 (details...) - WinMe File Decompression
UPD329115 (details...) - WinMe Certificate Validation
UPD811630 (details...) - WinMe HTML Help
UPD812709 (details...) - WinMe Help&Support
UPDQ823559 (details...) - WinMe Security Update
UPD825119 (details...) - WinMe Help&Support
UPD840315 (details...) - WinMe HTML Help
UPD890175 (details...) - WinMe HTML Help

MDAC
My 'virgin' ME system doesn't show MDAC in the installed hotfixes
either -
probably because Belarc don't consider it a core part of the OS.

Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Here is my Belarc from previous post.

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BELARC ADVISOR 6.1f
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Installed Microsoft Hotfixes [Back to Top]
DataAccess
Q329414-25 on 1/9/2005 (details...) - MDAC 2.5. Superseded by MDAC
2.8.
Internet Explorer
SP1 (SP1)
Q837009 (details...) - OE6SP1 Cumulative Update
Q887797 (details...) - OE6SP1 Cumulative Update
Q889293 (details...) - IE6SP1 Cumulative Update
MSXML4
Q317244 on 1/29/2005 (details...) - MSXML 4.0
Windows Media Player
* WM828026 (details...) - WMP 6.4,7.1,9.0 Script
* KB837272 (details...) - WMP 9 Update
WinME
* UPD273017 (details...) - IDE HDD Cache Pkg
* UPD273991 (details...) - Share Level Password
* UPD290700 (details...) - WinMe System Restore
* UPD329115 (details...) - WinMe Certificate Validation
* UPDQ823559 (details...) - WinMe Security Update
* UPD890175 (details...) - WinMe HTML Help

Also from Belarc, I learned of another minor problem. My network
printer
keeps making a duplicate of itself. I didn't mention it before but feel
I
should do so now in case it is relevant. I have to keep removing the
duplicate network printers every so often from PRINTERS in Control
Panel.
Any idea of the cause and the fix? The local printer is unaffected.
Belarc
shows only one local printer but 9 network printers.

ForestSpirit