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Old September 2nd 06, 07:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
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Default Problems Installing Windows 98

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microsoft.public.win98.performance on Tue 22 Aug 2006 09:43:01a:

I've heard of compatibility mode, I'll take a look and see if it
helps. Thanks for your suggestion!


Compatibility mode is to run a misbehaving legacy file whilst running XP.
Win95, 98, 98SE have similar ways to do the same for legacy DOS proggies.

Frank

"USR" wrote:

Since this is a new system, it most likely not function with Windows
98. Not just a driver issue but also hardware limitations.

Have you tried running this program in XP using compatibility mode?


"Frank" wrote in message
...
Ok, let me explain myself before telling me that I'm just plain
stupid. So,
here's the situation. I have a customer that's looking to operate
on old version of digitizing software. The software was designed
to run on Windows
98.

Here's the issue: when attempting to install Windows 98 on our
customer's brand new hp computer, no real problems are noticed. As
prompted initially,
Windows formatted the C: drive. After doing a complete install and
re-booting the PC a second time as prompted, the PC locks when
attempting to
boot up.


Same thing happened with me. We bought a Compaq from future shop a couple
of Christmas' ago that came with XP. "Screw that" I said. I'm using 98SE.
Anyway I wiped the drive nad tried to get SE and it was a no-go. Compaq,
HP, Dell etc. use proprietary motherboards, chips, hard disks etc that will
ONLY work with the OS provided. I phoned Compaq, ranted and raved a little
and had them send me a complete set of recovery disks as I'd already hosed
the recovery partition as well as the C:\ drive. Learned a valuable lesson
that day. Build your own as I've been doing for twenty years. Then you
know what's really going on with your system.

I've been using the same install of 98SE for almost seven years now. It's
survived eight motherboard transplants. The latest was running a dual-boot
system with XP Home. I replaced my aging Duron 1000 MB with a new 64 bit
Sempron equipped MB, 800 MHz FSB, HyperThreading technology, yadda-yadda.
Xp got hosed and I type to you through the amazing stick-too-itnous of the
not so late tho still great... Windows 98SE. TADA!

I can still access my XP partition, tho the proggies won't run it doesn't
much matter as everything I need really works in SE. Another dual-boot is
in the works. 98SE with 64-bit Unbuntu Linux. Eventually planning to
migrate to Linux with SE as back-up.

It's a survivor fer sure.

You likely will never get 98 to work on an HP comp. If you want to try a
dual-boot system get a new, never installed HD, install Win98SE first, then
XP. 98 HAS to be on the C:\ drive. Xp being the shiftless bum that it is
will live anywhere.



So, realizing that this operating system runs off of DOS
and the file systems needs to be FAT, not NTFS formatted, I
partitioned the hard drive to operate in DOS via FDISK. After this
hard format of the hard drive,
I re-started the PC with the Windows install CD in the drive, and
Windows began a secondary format of the drive. This looked to be
the format that I
was looking for as it was taking forever (not the usually quick
format that I
was continually running into). After taking a lunch break, I
returned to finish off the install process of Windows 98 once
again. Thinking that I had
finally done it, the PC rebooted, and then once again, just as the
Windows 98
logo appeared, the PC fully locked.


Start with FDisk and create the partitions you need. Format the partitions
and make the first partition active. This is where you will install SE.
Best to have another comp with access to the internet to get the drivers,
etc you'll find you need. Copy all the 98 files off the CD into a folder
on the C:\ drive. Like c:\Winstall. Run Setup.exe from there so you won't
be nagged for the 98 CD every time 98 wants a file off the disk. If you're
installing XP as well, just boot it off the Cd and it will detect SE and
install itself in whatever partition you have prepared. DO NOT select
NTFS! Stick to FAT32. Once NTFS is installed you can NEVER get XP off of
it. If you are so short of HD space you shouldn't be doing this in the
first place



Oh, and don't let me forget, I couldn't get Windows to find the
PC's CD ROM
drive (although I could access it via DOS). When in Safe Mode, I
was able to
ensure that the Hard Drives File Systems was in fact set as FAT and
could operate normally.


Make sure you have a line similar to this in your

autoexec.bat and autoexec.dos

C:\MSCDEX.EXE /D:mscd001 /L:%CDROM%

and a line like this in your config.sys and config.dos

device=c:\oakcdrom.sys /D:mscd001

Both are text files and should be opened, edited and saved in Notepad or
other pure text editor. If they won't save because they're read only, copy
your text, close the .bat or .sys file. Right-click on the original
properties uncheck the read-only attribute, hidden too if checked,
apply or OK, re-open the file, then paste your text that you saved, edit
and save it. Reboot.

Worked for me.

You need to set up the paths properly to make it work. I just find the
newest files with the Search and copy them to C:\ . Look for mscdex.exe
and *cdrom.sys. Copy the newest mscdex.exe and any *cdrom.sys to the root.

PS: Rename the .sys file in the device= line to the cdrom.sys file
available to you.

I hope all this makes some sense to any professional's out there
that can offer some advice. I'm no where near an expert, so any
advice from anyone would be GREATLY appreciated!

Thanks,

Frank







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