Moving 80 gigs from one spot on a USB drive to another spot on the same drivee

Bill Blanton wrote:
On 11/5/2010 14:46, PCR wrote:
Bill Blanton wrote:
On 11/4/2010 22:54, PCR wrote:

BTW, do you still monitor "public.apps.bootitng" through their
server "terabyteunlimited.com"? I'm not seeing any new posts
showing up at that NG since early in September. Can it be no one
is posting there anymore? OE goes through the motions, but always
comes up with zero new posts!

I noticed that too. Last post I see is on 10/2. Its never been too
busy, but never a month between posts.

Ah! I'd been looking mildly through my NG settings& was about to
scour them! Now I'll wait a bit longer before starting. Your extra
month of activity is explainable by my absence from the NET for that
long. OK, thanks.


There's some activity in public.tech.general (that's a new one?)

I don't watch that one, just public.apps.bootitng & public.announce
(which hasn't announced anything since 8/3/2009). I should investigate
this thing. I recall public.apps.bootitng got posts almost every day
(I'm almost sure) before I quit the NET about 2 months ago. After
returning, I see nothing new there!

Now I've tried to post to it & failed! No error message, the post is in
OE's Sent Items -- but not at "public.apps.bootitng" after over half an
hour! Can you post there?


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In message , PCR
writes:
Bill Blanton wrote:
On 11/5/2010 14:46, PCR wrote:
Bill Blanton wrote:
On 11/4/2010 22:54, PCR wrote:

BTW, do you still monitor "public.apps.bootitng" through their
server "terabyteunlimited.com"? I'm not seeing any new posts
showing up at that NG since early in September. Can it be no one
is posting there anymore? OE goes through the motions, but always
comes up with zero new posts!

I noticed that too. Last post I see is on 10/2. Its never been too
busy, but never a month between posts.

Ah! I'd been looking mildly through my NG settings& was about to
scour them! Now I'll wait a bit longer before starting. Your extra
month of activity is explainable by my absence from the NET for that
long. OK, thanks.


There's some activity in public.tech.general (that's a new one?)

I don't watch that one, just public.apps.bootitng & public.announce
(which hasn't announced anything since 8/3/2009). I should investigate
this thing. I recall public.apps.bootitng got posts almost every day
(I'm almost sure) before I quit the NET about 2 months ago. After
returning, I see nothing new there!

Now I've tried to post to it & failed! No error message, the post is in
OE's Sent Items -- but not at "public.apps.bootitng" after over half an
hour! Can you post there?


Could it be that it's no longer on a newsserver you use - either they've
dropped it, or you've stopped using the relevant server (you did mention
quitting something)? I don't know how OE handles this situation,
especially if you haven't done a refresh newsgroup list (?) so that (?)
it still thinks it is a valid newsgroup.
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On 11/7/2010 05:31, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , PCR
writes:
Bill Blanton wrote:
On 11/5/2010 14:46, PCR wrote:
Bill Blanton wrote:
On 11/4/2010 22:54, PCR wrote:

BTW, do you still monitor "public.apps.bootitng" through their
server "terabyteunlimited.com"? I'm not seeing any new posts
showing up at that NG since early in September. Can it be no one
is posting there anymore? OE goes through the motions, but always
comes up with zero new posts!

I noticed that too. Last post I see is on 10/2. Its never been too
busy, but never a month between posts.

Ah! I'd been looking mildly through my NG settings& was about to
scour them! Now I'll wait a bit longer before starting. Your extra
month of activity is explainable by my absence from the NET for that
long. OK, thanks.


There's some activity in public.tech.general (that's a new one?)

I don't watch that one, just public.apps.bootitng & public.announce
(which hasn't announced anything since 8/3/2009). I should investigate
this thing. I recall public.apps.bootitng got posts almost every day
(I'm almost sure) before I quit the NET about 2 months ago. After
returning, I see nothing new there!

Now I've tried to post to it & failed! No error message, the post is in
OE's Sent Items -- but not at "public.apps.bootitng" after over half an
hour! Can you post there?

Didn't try, but there's a big thread about it in public.tech.gen. "New
Server" dated 10/7. Others are having problems fixing it.


Could it be that it's no longer on a newsserver you use - either they've
dropped it, or you've stopped using the relevant server (you did mention
quitting something)?

New server ;-)

I don't know how OE handles this situation,
especially if you haven't done a refresh newsgroup list (?) so that (?)
it still thinks it is a valid newsgroup.

I think you have to unsubscribe and then resubscibe.

On 11/6/2010 20:31, PCR wrote:

Now I've tried to post to it& failed! No error message, the post is in
OE's Sent Items -- but not at "public.apps.bootitng" after over half an
hour! Can you post there?

Using TBird I unsubscibed and re-subscribed and now get in.. You post
did make it through and you have some replies ;-)

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , PCR
writes:
Bill Blanton wrote:
On 11/5/2010 14:46, PCR wrote:
Bill Blanton wrote:
On 11/4/2010 22:54, PCR wrote:

BTW, do you still monitor "public.apps.bootitng" through their
server "terabyteunlimited.com"? I'm not seeing any new posts
showing up at that NG since early in September. Can it be no one
is posting there anymore? OE goes through the motions, but always
comes up with zero new posts!

I noticed that too. Last post I see is on 10/2. Its never been too
busy, but never a month between posts.

Ah! I'd been looking mildly through my NG settings& was about to
scour them! Now I'll wait a bit longer before starting. Your extra
month of activity is explainable by my absence from the NET for
that long. OK, thanks.


There's some activity in public.tech.general (that's a new one?)

I don't watch that one, just public.apps.bootitng & public.announce
(which hasn't announced anything since 8/3/2009). I should investigate
this thing. I recall public.apps.bootitng got posts almost every day
(I'm almost sure) before I quit the NET about 2 months ago. After
returning, I see nothing new there!

Now I've tried to post to it & failed! No error message, the post is
in OE's Sent Items -- but not at "public.apps.bootitng" after over
half an hour! Can you post there?


Could it be that it's no longer on a newsserver you use - either
they've dropped it, or you've stopped using the relevant server (you
did mention quitting something)? I don't know how OE handles this
situation, especially if you haven't done a refresh newsgroup list
(?) so that (?) it still thinks it is a valid newsgroup.

Thanks for jumping in. It looks like Blanton has got my problem more
than 3/4 solved, though. Stuff is coming in -- lots of it -- but I have
a suspicion I'm not getting every last thing. But I'm getting enough.
OK, thanks.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

Bill Blanton wrote:
On 11/6/2010 20:31, PCR wrote:

Now I've tried to post to it& failed! No error message, the post is
in OE's Sent Items -- but not at "public.apps.bootitng" after over
half an hour! Can you post there?

Using TBird I unsubscibed and re-subscribed and now get in.. You post
did make it through and you have some replies ;-)

Hmm. Odd it got through & I couldn't see it. So, as you posted
elsewhere, I un/re-subscribed & even reset both NG's. Public.announce
had an announcement after all...

===Quote==New Server 10/07/2010=======
terabyteunlimited.com has been moved to a new server which may cause
problems with newsreaders that were already configured to access the
newsgroup. Common problems are no new messages being detected or unable
to track threads. To correct the issue you may need to delete the
existing newsgroup account from the newsreader and set it up again.
===EOQ============================

....that came in now with only 11 other posts. I'm sure some are missing!
I know for sure there was an 8/3/2009 post I no longer see. n ow
the latest other than quoted above is dated 11/27/08.

Looks like I'm supposed to get 17,385 posts into public.apps.bootitng.
We'll see what does arrive. OK, thanks, Blanton. I'll reserch that
thread in public.tech.general should I want more. It's going to take a
while to read in these 17,000, though. Looks like they come in 2 per
second. OK, bye.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

Hmm I miss something!

Boy i was lock out of my Xp PC and had to Reinstall it, have not setup
Windows Live Mail to get the News Groups back,

he get my Dam Windows ME too,
and my wim98 Server too,
But the old System. ez. to get back up and running
i put a good lock on my Xp Back Door, i hope this time LOOL!

And i have some TEST info for you

Have just get some HP update have to ReStart PC

Hot-Text wrote:
Hmm I miss something!


Everything seems to be OK now, if you're referring to my problem.

Boy i was lock out of my Xp PC and had to Reinstall it, have not setup
Windows Live Mail to get the News Groups back,

he get my Dam Windows ME too,
and my wim98 Server too,

Sounds like a catastrophe times three.

But the old System. ez. to get back up and running
i put a good lock on my Xp Back Door, i hope this time LOOL!


Looks like you're back up & running all right. Very good. Sounds like it
was a virus.

And i have some TEST info for you

Have just get some HP update have to ReStart PC

OK. If possible, put your info in the relevant part of this thread -- up
above!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

Timothy Daniels wrote:
"PCR" wrote:
[.......]
An Extended Partition is
itself actually a non-bootable Primary Partition which is a container
for multiple Logical Partitions....

Perhaps "non-booting" would be a better term than "non-bootable"
because an OS within a logical drive inside an Extended Partition
can be booted using the boot loader (e.g. ntldr for WinNT/2K/XP)
that can be in the Boot Sector of any one of the Primary Partitions.
IOW, in WinXP, one can have the MBR of the drive with the highest
boot priority (the "boot drive") pass control to the Primary Partition
marked "active" on that drive, and the boot.ini boot menu in that
active partition can point to an OS residing in ANY partition -
including a
logical drive within the Extended Partition - and boot load that OS.
I expect that the same flexibility exists for WinVista and Win7. The
restriction imposed on OSes residing on logical drives within Extended
Partitions is that their boot loader must be on one of the Primary
Partitions.

The implication of this is that an OS clone can reside anywhere in
the system - on any partition (Primary or Extended) and on any enabled
internal hard drive - and it can be booted to running status without
an intermediate "restoration" step needed for OS "images". I believe
this
also includes external eSATA hard drives if the motherboard has an
eSATA controller.

*TimDaniels*

I've found a more thorough explaination of what you've said...
http://thpc.info/dual/bootsequence.html
Boot Sequence in a Windows Dual-Boot Explained

It's a bit of a mind-twister, though, that the System partition (marked
Active in the MBR) contains the boot files (NTLoader/IO.sys, etc.) & the
Boot partition contains the system files (Windows directory, etc.). The
System partition must be a Primary partition on the primary controller.
And the Boot partition can be anywhere, even inside an extended
partition on a second hard drive. (It looks like even Win98 may be able
to that using MSDOS! [which, actually, Chauvin may have brought up here
once long ago].)

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage PCR wrote:
Timothy Daniels wrote:
"PCR" wrote:
[.......]
An Extended Partition is
itself actually a non-bootable Primary Partition which is a container
for multiple Logical Partitions....

Perhaps "non-booting" would be a better term than "non-bootable"
because an OS within a logical drive inside an Extended Partition
can be booted using the boot loader (e.g. ntldr for WinNT/2K/XP)
that can be in the Boot Sector of any one of the Primary Partitions.
IOW, in WinXP, one can have the MBR of the drive with the highest
boot priority (the "boot drive") pass control to the Primary Partition
marked "active" on that drive, and the boot.ini boot menu in that
active partition can point to an OS residing in ANY partition -
including a
logical drive within the Extended Partition - and boot load that OS.
I expect that the same flexibility exists for WinVista and Win7. The
restriction imposed on OSes residing on logical drives within Extended
Partitions is that their boot loader must be on one of the Primary
Partitions.

The implication of this is that an OS clone can reside anywhere in
the system - on any partition (Primary or Extended) and on any enabled
internal hard drive - and it can be booted to running status without
an intermediate "restoration" step needed for OS "images". I believe
this
also includes external eSATA hard drives if the motherboard has an
eSATA controller.

*TimDaniels*

I've found a more thorough explaination of what you've said...
http://thpc.info/dual/bootsequence.html
Boot Sequence in a Windows Dual-Boot Explained

It's a bit of a mind-twister, though, that the System partition (marked
Active in the MBR) contains the boot files (NTLoader/IO.sys, etc.) & the
Boot partition contains the system files (Windows directory, etc.). The
System partition must be a Primary partition on the primary controller.
And the Boot partition can be anywhere, even inside an extended
partition on a second hard drive. (It looks like even Win98 may be able
to that using MSDOS! [which, actually, Chauvin may have brought up here
once long ago].)

Just MS screwing things up and making them sognificantly more
complex than needed, as usual. The Linux boot process consists
of loading the kernel into memory (by whatever means), passing
it the commandline with the root device and starting its
execution. The kernel does not even need to be on disk anywhere
in this process and you can also compile the commandline
statically in, if you like.

Arno
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