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Old March 17th 06, 04:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.internet
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Noel, What a pumkin he is. I told him to scrap Norton months ago and I
thought he did. Turns out he's still got it installed. I've told him to
remove it and try again.

Thanks,

Craig.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

Running AOL and Norton, by any chance??
http://news.com.com/2100-1002_3-6050...0786&subj=news

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"canna" wrote in message
...
Noel, many thanks for your reply. He has tried your suggestion and still
no
luck.

Craig.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

Tell him to run this command - it will only work in Windows XPSP2....

NETSH WINSOCK RESET

See if that works for him.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"canna" wrote in message
...
Hi Guys,

This is weird, I have a friend at work who came to me asking for help
as
he
is having the exact same problem but he is running XP. He has contacted
BT
broadband and they say as he can ping it must be a problem with his PC.

Craig.

"Robert Robinson" wrote:

When I ping my DNS servers they respond, which makes sense since in
one
of my
previous posts I mentioned that when I ping a URL it returns the IP of
the
site - ergo, the DNS servers are accessible.

As with "LoneStar", I have connectivity through the same ISP/DNS
servers
with 4
other computers, Win98, WinXP, Win2K and one other WinME which are all
working
fine so the server(s) must be functioning properly. It's isolated to
this one
computer, and since other users have the problem it seems important to
discover
the cause. I may have to give up and reformat also, but am willing to
continue
working on this just so we can figure it out to help others that may
soon
experience it.

On another note, my system is dying at about 10 minutes or less, not
15
as
LoneStar's was.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Have you tried pinging your DNS server? - this sounds more and more
like a
problem with your ISP, rather than one at your end
If you can successfully ping the DNS server, but nothing beyond it,
then it
may be that the server is either poisoned or not functioning
properly -
and
that is definitely your ISP's problem.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
...
I checked it in Normal Mode, then went to Safe Mode to be sure that
the old
NIC
wasn't listed (so no conflicts there). And BTW, my comment about
pinging
not
working - not entirely correct. The DNS servers DO return the IP
of
sites
when
I use the UNC or URL, but it just gets a "request timed out".
Apparently
the
connection out to the DNS servers work?

No malware detected, which didn't surprise me as the system was
using
Panda
w/truprevent and it was never disabled and I had done a full scan
with it
also.
I completely disabled it (takes disabling a .vxd to keep it from
loading
"extraneous" stuff) to make sure it wasn't interfering during this
testing
phase.

On another note, I tried just booting and waiting 15 minutes
before
trying
to
get on the internet and it wouldn't let me! So you don't have to
be
actively
accessing the internet for it to "time out". It seems to start
from
the
moment
you get logged in.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Did you check the Device Manager in Safe Mode, after installing
the
new
NIC
(perhaps a little desperate here, but...)??

What malware did my suggestions find - if any?


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
to
NG's
"Robert Robinson" wrote in
message
...
HELP!
Wow, I've got the same problem on a friend's computer running
WinME.
I
have
tried everything that Mike suggested, in addition to Noel's and
even
used
a
program that cleans/wipes the winsock/lsp/dun software/registry
information and
re-installs it to see if that fixes it (it didn't). This only
started
happening
about a week ago, up till then everything was great.
One of the problems that I see, in addition to the original
problem,
is
that
occasionally I also can't ping external sites once the
"internet"
connectivity
shuts down (either via the IP or UNC).
I thought it might be a NIC problem too, so I
uninstalled/removed the
NIC and
put a new one in. Same problem. I also disabled everything
that
was
running at
startup and several vxd's that were "add-ons" that I knew
wouldn't
crash
the
system.
When I looked at the drivers loaded for the NIC, I noticed
that
it
said
the
tcpip.sys wasn't loaded so I replaced it (using the WinME boot
disk
"minimal"),
and found that I had to put it in the System directory instead
of
the
System32/drivers for it to find and load it. Still no
difference.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
In addition to Mike's suggestion....

You may have a virus/spyware hijack

download the Stinger from here and run it to make sure that
A-V-disabling
viruses are not present on your PC
http://vil.mcafeesecurity.com/vil/averttools.asp

- update your virus scanner and run a full system scan of all
files.

Reboot to Safe Mode and run CWShredder - to remove variants of
the
CoolWebSearch hijacker.
http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html

Use CWShredder, the removal tool:
http://www.trendmicro.com/cwshredder/

download AdAware SE Personal Edition from www.lavasoftusa.com,
install,
update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such
nasties
from
your system.

also run the LSPFix from here
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
messages
to
NG's
"LoneStar" wrote in message
...
See below for ref......

Thanks Noel, but I've done as you said befo no help. The
problem
is
much deeper, since my connectivity only dies "after
approximately 15
minutes after bootup" and since the problem is not an
Internet
Explorer
issue (Windows Media Player will not work after 15 mins, or
Firefox
browser, or any other app that uses the Net). But remember,
all is
great
immediately after bootup or restart!!!! I can go to many,
many
sites
for
about 15 minutes!

I keep thinking TCP/IP configurations, etc, etc, but note
that
I can
ping
and tracert after Internet connectivity is lost. I've
looked

  #22  
Old March 17th 06, 08:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.internet
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Hehe!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"canna" wrote in message
...
Noel, What a pumkin he is. I told him to scrap Norton months ago and I
thought he did. Turns out he's still got it installed. I've told him to
remove it and try again.

Thanks,

Craig.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

Running AOL and Norton, by any chance??
http://news.com.com/2100-1002_3-6050...0786&subj=news

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"canna" wrote in message
...
Noel, many thanks for your reply. He has tried your suggestion and
still
no
luck.

Craig.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

Tell him to run this command - it will only work in Windows XPSP2....

NETSH WINSOCK RESET

See if that works for him.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
"canna" wrote in message
...
Hi Guys,

This is weird, I have a friend at work who came to me asking for
help
as
he
is having the exact same problem but he is running XP. He has
contacted
BT
broadband and they say as he can ping it must be a problem with his
PC.

Craig.

"Robert Robinson" wrote:

When I ping my DNS servers they respond, which makes sense since in
one
of my
previous posts I mentioned that when I ping a URL it returns the IP
of
the
site - ergo, the DNS servers are accessible.

As with "LoneStar", I have connectivity through the same ISP/DNS
servers
with 4
other computers, Win98, WinXP, Win2K and one other WinME which are
all
working
fine so the server(s) must be functioning properly. It's isolated
to
this one
computer, and since other users have the problem it seems important
to
discover
the cause. I may have to give up and reformat also, but am willing
to
continue
working on this just so we can figure it out to help others that
may
soon
experience it.

On another note, my system is dying at about 10 minutes or less,
not
15
as
LoneStar's was.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Have you tried pinging your DNS server? - this sounds more and
more
like a
problem with your ISP, rather than one at your end
If you can successfully ping the DNS server, but nothing beyond
it,
then it
may be that the server is either poisoned or not functioning
properly -
and
that is definitely your ISP's problem.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
to
NG's
"Robert Robinson" wrote in
message
...
I checked it in Normal Mode, then went to Safe Mode to be sure
that
the old
NIC
wasn't listed (so no conflicts there). And BTW, my comment
about
pinging
not
working - not entirely correct. The DNS servers DO return the
IP
of
sites
when
I use the UNC or URL, but it just gets a "request timed out".
Apparently
the
connection out to the DNS servers work?

No malware detected, which didn't surprise me as the system was
using
Panda
w/truprevent and it was never disabled and I had done a full
scan
with it
also.
I completely disabled it (takes disabling a .vxd to keep it
from
loading
"extraneous" stuff) to make sure it wasn't interfering during
this
testing
phase.

On another note, I tried just booting and waiting 15 minutes
before
trying
to
get on the internet and it wouldn't let me! So you don't have
to
be
actively
accessing the internet for it to "time out". It seems to start
from
the
moment
you get logged in.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Did you check the Device Manager in Safe Mode, after
installing
the
new
NIC
(perhaps a little desperate here, but...)??

What malware did my suggestions find - if any?


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
messages
to
NG's
"Robert Robinson" wrote in
message
...
HELP!
Wow, I've got the same problem on a friend's computer
running
WinME.
I
have
tried everything that Mike suggested, in addition to Noel's
and
even
used
a
program that cleans/wipes the winsock/lsp/dun
software/registry
information and
re-installs it to see if that fixes it (it didn't). This
only
started
happening
about a week ago, up till then everything was great.
One of the problems that I see, in addition to the
original
problem,
is
that
occasionally I also can't ping external sites once the
"internet"
connectivity
shuts down (either via the IP or UNC).
I thought it might be a NIC problem too, so I
uninstalled/removed the
NIC and
put a new one in. Same problem. I also disabled everything
that
was
running at
startup and several vxd's that were "add-ons" that I knew
wouldn't
crash
the
system.
When I looked at the drivers loaded for the NIC, I noticed
that
it
said
the
tcpip.sys wasn't loaded so I replaced it (using the WinME
boot
disk
"minimal"),
and found that I had to put it in the System directory
instead
of
the
System32/drivers for it to find and load it. Still no
difference.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in
message
...
In addition to Mike's suggestion....

You may have a virus/spyware hijack

download the Stinger from here and run it to make sure that
A-V-disabling
viruses are not present on your PC
http://vil.mcafeesecurity.com/vil/averttools.asp

- update your virus scanner and run a full system scan of
all
files.

Reboot to Safe Mode and run CWShredder - to remove variants
of
the
CoolWebSearch hijacker.
http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html

Use CWShredder, the removal tool:
http://www.trendmicro.com/cwshredder/

download AdAware SE Personal Edition from
www.lavasoftusa.com,
install,
update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other
such
nasties
from
your system.

also run the LSPFix from here
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
messages
to
NG's
"LoneStar" wrote in message
...
See below for ref......

Thanks Noel, but I've done as you said befo no help.
The
problem
is
much deeper, since my connectivity only dies "after
approximately 15
minutes after bootup" and since the problem is not an
Internet
Explorer
issue (Windows Media Player will not work after 15 mins,
or
Firefox
browser, or any other app that uses the Net). But
remember,
all is
great
immediately after bootup or restart!!!! I can go to
many,
many
sites
for
about 15 minutes!

I keep thinking TCP/IP configurations, etc, etc, but note
that
I can
ping
and tracert after Internet connectivity is lost. I've
looked



  #23  
Old March 17th 06, 11:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.internet
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"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
...
I just tried also to boot with ME diskette/minimal and ran scanreg /fix
to be
sure there were no registry problems that might be related to lost keys.
Still
no fix.
Anyone got solutions that haven't been mentioned so far? I'm pretty
desperate to get this going without wiping the drive and starting over.

Robert


Robert............ I started this thread, have done a lot of research into
the problem, done all that has been advised, and still nothing. Like you, I
still lose the Net after 10 -- 15 minutes. Tomorrow morning, it's the
Windows ME boot disk and installation CD time!!!! That'll fix it once and
for all. The problem will probably remain an unsolved mystery to you and
me. Most of the good advice we've gotten concentrated on things NOT related
to the TRUE problem: the issue of losing the Net after 10 -- 15 minutes,
always, then all being well again temporarily after bootup.

Good luck, and have a happy re-format!!!!!

EW


  #24  
Old March 20th 06, 10:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.internet
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"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
...
I just tried also to boot with ME diskette/minimal and ran scanreg /fix
to be
sure there were no registry problems that might be related to lost keys.
Still
no fix.
Anyone got solutions that haven't been mentioned so far? I'm pretty
desperate to get this going without wiping the drive and starting over.

Robert



Finally, I did it: reformatted with a fresh copy of Windows ME and all is
terrific. In fact it's better than factory-fresh because my current
installation doesn't have all the commercial-ware that new PCs come with.
In any case, the problem is fixed, though the solution was never found.
Thanks all.

EW


  #25  
Old March 24th 06, 09:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.internet
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As with LoneStar, I finally had to wipe the system and start from scratch. Any
luck with the XP system? I'd love to find out the real cause of this problem
before it happens again.
Robert

"canna" wrote in message
...
Hi Guys,

This is weird, I have a friend at work who came to me asking for help as he
is having the exact same problem but he is running XP. He has contacted BT
broadband and they say as he can ping it must be a problem with his PC.

Craig.

"Robert Robinson" wrote:

When I ping my DNS servers they respond, which makes sense since in one of

my
previous posts I mentioned that when I ping a URL it returns the IP of the
site - ergo, the DNS servers are accessible.

As with "LoneStar", I have connectivity through the same ISP/DNS servers

with 4
other computers, Win98, WinXP, Win2K and one other WinME which are all

working
fine so the server(s) must be functioning properly. It's isolated to this

one
computer, and since other users have the problem it seems important to

discover
the cause. I may have to give up and reformat also, but am willing to

continue
working on this just so we can figure it out to help others that may soon
experience it.

On another note, my system is dying at about 10 minutes or less, not 15 as
LoneStar's was.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Have you tried pinging your DNS server? - this sounds more and more like a
problem with your ISP, rather than one at your end
If you can successfully ping the DNS server, but nothing beyond it, then

it
may be that the server is either poisoned or not functioning properly -

and
that is definitely your ISP's problem.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
...
I checked it in Normal Mode, then went to Safe Mode to be sure that the

old
NIC
wasn't listed (so no conflicts there). And BTW, my comment about

pinging
not
working - not entirely correct. The DNS servers DO return the IP of

sites
when
I use the UNC or URL, but it just gets a "request timed out".

Apparently
the
connection out to the DNS servers work?

No malware detected, which didn't surprise me as the system was using
Panda
w/truprevent and it was never disabled and I had done a full scan with

it
also.
I completely disabled it (takes disabling a .vxd to keep it from loading
"extraneous" stuff) to make sure it wasn't interfering during this

testing
phase.

On another note, I tried just booting and waiting 15 minutes before

trying
to
get on the internet and it wouldn't let me! So you don't have to be
actively
accessing the internet for it to "time out". It seems to start from the
moment
you get logged in.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Did you check the Device Manager in Safe Mode, after installing the new
NIC
(perhaps a little desperate here, but...)??

What malware did my suggestions find - if any?


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to

NG's
"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
...
HELP!
Wow, I've got the same problem on a friend's computer running

WinME.
I
have
tried everything that Mike suggested, in addition to Noel's and even
used
a
program that cleans/wipes the winsock/lsp/dun software/registry
information and
re-installs it to see if that fixes it (it didn't). This only

started
happening
about a week ago, up till then everything was great.
One of the problems that I see, in addition to the original

problem,
is
that
occasionally I also can't ping external sites once the "internet"
connectivity
shuts down (either via the IP or UNC).
I thought it might be a NIC problem too, so I uninstalled/removed

the
NIC and
put a new one in. Same problem. I also disabled everything that was
running at
startup and several vxd's that were "add-ons" that I knew wouldn't
crash
the
system.
When I looked at the drivers loaded for the NIC, I noticed that it
said
the
tcpip.sys wasn't loaded so I replaced it (using the WinME boot disk
"minimal"),
and found that I had to put it in the System directory instead of the
System32/drivers for it to find and load it. Still no difference.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
In addition to Mike's suggestion....

You may have a virus/spyware hijack

download the Stinger from here and run it to make sure that
A-V-disabling
viruses are not present on your PC
http://vil.mcafeesecurity.com/vil/averttools.asp

- update your virus scanner and run a full system scan of all files.

Reboot to Safe Mode and run CWShredder - to remove variants of the
CoolWebSearch hijacker.
http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html

Use CWShredder, the removal tool:
http://www.trendmicro.com/cwshredder/

download AdAware SE Personal Edition from www.lavasoftusa.com,
install,
update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such nasties
from
your system.

also run the LSPFix from here
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
"LoneStar" wrote in message
...
See below for ref......

Thanks Noel, but I've done as you said befo no help. The

problem
is
much deeper, since my connectivity only dies "after approximately

15
minutes after bootup" and since the problem is not an Internet
Explorer
issue (Windows Media Player will not work after 15 mins, or

Firefox
browser, or any other app that uses the Net). But remember, all

is
great
immediately after bootup or restart!!!! I can go to many, many
sites
for
about 15 minutes!

I keep thinking TCP/IP configurations, etc, etc, but note that I

can
ping
and tracert after Internet connectivity is lost. I've looked at

ALL
the
Microsoft support sites on this, and this particular issue is not
addressed anywhere. Guess it might be time for a reformat and OS
installation!

Thanks again.

EW





"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
This sounds to me as if you may be getting Windows confused by
having
two
methods of connection potentially active at the same time - and
it's
choosing the wrong one.

Go to Internet Properties |Connections - and ensure that 'never
dial a
connection' is the option you've chosen, and that there are no
unwanted
entries in the connection settings.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
to
NG's
"LoneStar" wrote in message
...
Anyone...........
Weird problem on my Windows ME system: I lose Internet
connectivity
approximately 15 minutes after bootup. Until then all works

very
well.
But when it dies, IE has the subject-line error message (whether
using
my dialup OR high speed). If I reboot, all works well again for
about
15 minutes, then no more Internet again. Also, my other

Internet
applications don't work -- anti-virus updates, Instant

Messaging,
nothing else! HOWEVER, I can ping and tracert all over the
world!!!!!!!!!!! Everything else on the computer works great,

and
no
viruses caught by AVG.

This is too crazy. Any help would be appreciated.

EW


























  #26  
Old March 24th 06, 11:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.internet
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Sorry to hear that you had to resort to such drastic measures - which is a
shame, because solving it for you would potentially have benefited hundreds
of other users, as well as preserving your current settings, etc.

This seems to have been a recent problem, and I'm almost certain that the
cause is either malware, or a misbehaving program/driver - and as such it's
unlikely to be reproduced in Windows XP SP2 (which is the only version that
anyone should be using nowadays!)

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

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"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
...
As with LoneStar, I finally had to wipe the system and start from scratch.
Any
luck with the XP system? I'd love to find out the real cause of this
problem
before it happens again.
Robert

"canna" wrote in message
...
Hi Guys,

This is weird, I have a friend at work who came to me asking for help as
he
is having the exact same problem but he is running XP. He has contacted
BT
broadband and they say as he can ping it must be a problem with his PC.

Craig.

"Robert Robinson" wrote:

When I ping my DNS servers they respond, which makes sense since in one
of

my
previous posts I mentioned that when I ping a URL it returns the IP of
the
site - ergo, the DNS servers are accessible.

As with "LoneStar", I have connectivity through the same ISP/DNS
servers

with 4
other computers, Win98, WinXP, Win2K and one other WinME which are all

working
fine so the server(s) must be functioning properly. It's isolated to
this

one
computer, and since other users have the problem it seems important to

discover
the cause. I may have to give up and reformat also, but am willing to

continue
working on this just so we can figure it out to help others that may
soon
experience it.

On another note, my system is dying at about 10 minutes or less, not 15
as
LoneStar's was.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Have you tried pinging your DNS server? - this sounds more and more
like a
problem with your ISP, rather than one at your end
If you can successfully ping the DNS server, but nothing beyond it,
then

it
may be that the server is either poisoned or not functioning
properly -

and
that is definitely your ISP's problem.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

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"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
...
I checked it in Normal Mode, then went to Safe Mode to be sure that
the

old
NIC
wasn't listed (so no conflicts there). And BTW, my comment about

pinging
not
working - not entirely correct. The DNS servers DO return the IP
of

sites
when
I use the UNC or URL, but it just gets a "request timed out".

Apparently
the
connection out to the DNS servers work?

No malware detected, which didn't surprise me as the system was
using
Panda
w/truprevent and it was never disabled and I had done a full scan
with

it
also.
I completely disabled it (takes disabling a .vxd to keep it from
loading
"extraneous" stuff) to make sure it wasn't interfering during this

testing
phase.

On another note, I tried just booting and waiting 15 minutes before

trying
to
get on the internet and it wouldn't let me! So you don't have to
be
actively
accessing the internet for it to "time out". It seems to start
from the
moment
you get logged in.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Did you check the Device Manager in Safe Mode, after installing
the new
NIC
(perhaps a little desperate here, but...)??

What malware did my suggestions find - if any?


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NG's
"Robert Robinson" wrote in
message
...
HELP!
Wow, I've got the same problem on a friend's computer running

WinME.
I
have
tried everything that Mike suggested, in addition to Noel's and
even
used
a
program that cleans/wipes the winsock/lsp/dun software/registry
information and
re-installs it to see if that fixes it (it didn't). This only

started
happening
about a week ago, up till then everything was great.
One of the problems that I see, in addition to the original

problem,
is
that
occasionally I also can't ping external sites once the
"internet"
connectivity
shuts down (either via the IP or UNC).
I thought it might be a NIC problem too, so I
uninstalled/removed

the
NIC and
put a new one in. Same problem. I also disabled everything
that was
running at
startup and several vxd's that were "add-ons" that I knew
wouldn't
crash
the
system.
When I looked at the drivers loaded for the NIC, I noticed
that it
said
the
tcpip.sys wasn't loaded so I replaced it (using the WinME boot
disk
"minimal"),
and found that I had to put it in the System directory instead
of the
System32/drivers for it to find and load it. Still no
difference.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
In addition to Mike's suggestion....

You may have a virus/spyware hijack

download the Stinger from here and run it to make sure that
A-V-disabling
viruses are not present on your PC
http://vil.mcafeesecurity.com/vil/averttools.asp

- update your virus scanner and run a full system scan of all
files.

Reboot to Safe Mode and run CWShredder - to remove variants of
the
CoolWebSearch hijacker.
http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html

Use CWShredder, the removal tool:
http://www.trendmicro.com/cwshredder/

download AdAware SE Personal Edition from www.lavasoftusa.com,
install,
update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such
nasties
from
your system.

also run the LSPFix from here
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm


--
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"LoneStar" wrote in message
...
See below for ref......

Thanks Noel, but I've done as you said befo no help. The

problem
is
much deeper, since my connectivity only dies "after
approximately

15
minutes after bootup" and since the problem is not an
Internet
Explorer
issue (Windows Media Player will not work after 15 mins, or

Firefox
browser, or any other app that uses the Net). But remember,
all

is
great
immediately after bootup or restart!!!! I can go to many,
many
sites
for
about 15 minutes!

I keep thinking TCP/IP configurations, etc, etc, but note
that I

can
ping
and tracert after Internet connectivity is lost. I've looked
at

ALL
the
Microsoft support sites on this, and this particular issue is
not
addressed anywhere. Guess it might be time for a reformat
and OS
installation!

Thanks again.

EW





"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
This sounds to me as if you may be getting Windows confused
by
having
two
methods of connection potentially active at the same time -
and
it's
choosing the wrong one.

Go to Internet Properties |Connections - and ensure that
'never
dial a
connection' is the option you've chosen, and that there are
no
unwanted
entries in the connection settings.

--
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"LoneStar" wrote in message
...
Anyone...........
Weird problem on my Windows ME system: I lose Internet
connectivity
approximately 15 minutes after bootup. Until then all
works

very
well.
But when it dies, IE has the subject-line error message
(whether
using
my dialup OR high speed). If I reboot, all works well
again for
about
15 minutes, then no more Internet again. Also, my other

Internet
applications don't work -- anti-virus updates, Instant

Messaging,
nothing else! HOWEVER, I can ping and tracert all over the
world!!!!!!!!!!! Everything else on the computer works
great,

and
no
viruses caught by AVG.

This is too crazy. Any help would be appreciated.

EW




























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Old April 2nd 06, 01:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.internet
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Default "This page cannot be displayed" problem!

I've had the exact same problem with my girlfriends parents PC. I've never
used this site before and have put my query in the ME general section. I'm
not that technically minded so bear with me!

About 3 weeks ago we signed them upto Tesco BB and have found they can surf
for approx 15 minutes before the dreaded "This page cannot be displayed"
appears.

I've tried another forum and they have suggested it maybe Outlook Express
disconnecting the line after checking for mail - a throw back to dial up to
save phone bill costs?.

I'd be really greatful for any suggestions. When I visited them yesterday I
noticed both Avast! and Zonealarm were not in the system tray and had to
manually start them up. I updated Avast! and ran a thorough virus test but
it found nothing.

It is really frustrating though!!!

"LoneStar" wrote:

Anyone...........
Weird problem on my Windows ME system: I lose Internet connectivity
approximately 15 minutes after bootup. Until then all works very well. But
when it dies, IE has the subject-line error message (whether using my dialup
OR high speed). If I reboot, all works well again for about 15 minutes,
then no more Internet again. Also, my other Internet applications don't
work -- anti-virus updates, Instant Messaging, nothing else! HOWEVER, I can
ping and tracert all over the world!!!!!!!!!!! Everything else on the
computer works great, and no viruses caught by AVG.

This is too crazy. Any help would be appreciated.

EW



  #28  
Old April 2nd 06, 01:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.internet
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Posts: n/a
Default "This page cannot be displayed" problem!

I've tried another forum and they have suggested it maybe Outlook
Express disconnecting the line after checking for mail - a throw back
to dial up to save phone bill costs?.


Two places to check in Outlook Express:
1) Tools | Options | Connection. Check that "Hang up after sending and
receiving" is not checked.
2) Tools | Accounts | Mail, select each account in turn and click
Properties | Connection and ensure that you don't have "Always connect to
this account using" checked. In nearly all cases there is no need to
specify how you are connecting.
--
Mike Maltby
MS-MVP Windows [2001-2006]



Michael wrote:

I've had the exact same problem with my girlfriends parents PC. I've
never used this site before and have put my query in the ME general
section. I'm not that technically minded so bear with me!

About 3 weeks ago we signed them upto Tesco BB and have found they
can surf for approx 15 minutes before the dreaded "This page cannot
be displayed" appears.

I've tried another forum and they have suggested it maybe Outlook
Express disconnecting the line after checking for mail - a throw back
to dial up to save phone bill costs?.

I'd be really greatful for any suggestions. When I visited them
yesterday I noticed both Avast! and Zonealarm were not in the system
tray and had to manually start them up. I updated Avast! and ran a
thorough virus test but it found nothing.

It is really frustrating though!!!


 




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