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PPP Adapter. in winipcfg
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:12:13 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: I know, let's get Mikey, er, Herbert to do the test! Let us know how it goes, OK, Herbert? Some tech support "girl" diagnoses win98 to do something on its own, something never encountered by anyone else, and it's being treated as if the definitive solution to this problem is to remove dial up networking. The "solution" is a workaround at best. There is no reason why the OP can't have a stable broadband connection via his ethernet card *AND* use dial up networking at the same time. Jim. |
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PPP Adapter. in winipcfg
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:14:53 +0800, "Herbert Chan"
put finger to keyboard and composed: Hello, My pc is win98se and I have a broadband internet connection. I have been using the broadband for a few years. And since the beginning of this year, my internet connection will be intermittently lost. At first, I thought something was wrong with the modem, which is terayon TA-102. I have called the ISP to replace it. However, the problem is still there. Then I tried to get used to it. Whenever I lose the connection, I will need to reboot my computer to get the connection back (the modem does not need to be flipped off then on). I called the technical support again today, and we've looked at the modem and it didn't appear that my modem was failing to provide a signal for me. Then I run winipcfg and see that there are 3 entries: PPP Adapter., Microsoft TV/Video Connection and Realtek 8139-series PCI NIC. PPP adapter is for dialup connection and Realtek is the network card for broadband. The technical support girl said win98se will sometimes switch from the network card to PPP adapter, although she doesn't know under what circumstances this will happen. And the problem I've got is because my computer has switched on its own accord from the network card to PPP adapter. I have the same Realtek NIC and an ISA fax/modem in a Win98SE box. FWIW, I have never had the problem you describe. In any case I can't understand why the dial-up adapter should grab hold of your Internet connection. Do you see any connection attempts in your modemlog? Is there an rnaapp task running when you lose your ADSL connection (type Ctrl+Alt+Del to see the running tasks)? - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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PPP Adapter. in winipcfg
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:14:53 +0800, "Herbert Chan"
put finger to keyboard and composed: Hello, My pc is win98se and I have a broadband internet connection. I have been using the broadband for a few years. And since the beginning of this year, my internet connection will be intermittently lost. At first, I thought something was wrong with the modem, which is terayon TA-102. I have called the ISP to replace it. However, the problem is still there. Then I tried to get used to it. Whenever I lose the connection, I will need to reboot my computer to get the connection back (the modem does not need to be flipped off then on). I called the technical support again today, and we've looked at the modem and it didn't appear that my modem was failing to provide a signal for me. Then I run winipcfg and see that there are 3 entries: PPP Adapter., Microsoft TV/Video Connection and Realtek 8139-series PCI NIC. PPP adapter is for dialup connection and Realtek is the network card for broadband. The technical support girl said win98se will sometimes switch from the network card to PPP adapter, although she doesn't know under what circumstances this will happen. And the problem I've got is because my computer has switched on its own accord from the network card to PPP adapter. I have the same Realtek NIC and an ISA fax/modem in a Win98SE box. FWIW, I have never had the problem you describe. In any case I can't understand why the dial-up adapter should grab hold of your Internet connection. Do you see any connection attempts in your modemlog? Is there an rnaapp task running when you lose your ADSL connection (type Ctrl+Alt+Del to see the running tasks)? - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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He can, if he can find all the proper settings and nothing is reverting
those settings on some probably logical but apparently haphazard manner. Others here have pointed to those some of those settings, but who knows if they cover all the bases? Who knows what may be butting in and "fixing" something? If DUN isn't going to be used, the easiest thing to do is to uninstall it or disable it. Gets rid of the problem permanently. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "James Egan" wrote in message ... On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:12:13 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: I know, let's get Mikey, er, Herbert to do the test! Let us know how it goes, OK, Herbert? Some tech support "girl" diagnoses win98 to do something on its own, something never encountered by anyone else, and it's being treated as if the definitive solution to this problem is to remove dial up networking. The "solution" is a workaround at best. There is no reason why the OP can't have a stable broadband connection via his ethernet card *AND* use dial up networking at the same time. Jim. |
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He can, if he can find all the proper settings and nothing is reverting
those settings on some probably logical but apparently haphazard manner. Others here have pointed to those some of those settings, but who knows if they cover all the bases? Who knows what may be butting in and "fixing" something? If DUN isn't going to be used, the easiest thing to do is to uninstall it or disable it. Gets rid of the problem permanently. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "James Egan" wrote in message ... On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:12:13 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: I know, let's get Mikey, er, Herbert to do the test! Let us know how it goes, OK, Herbert? Some tech support "girl" diagnoses win98 to do something on its own, something never encountered by anyone else, and it's being treated as if the definitive solution to this problem is to remove dial up networking. The "solution" is a workaround at best. There is no reason why the OP can't have a stable broadband connection via his ethernet card *AND* use dial up networking at the same time. Jim. |
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Frank,
From what I find I don't believe the OP is using ADSL but is using cable, which in no way could interfere with dialup. Well, I guess I shouldn't say "in no way", I've seen stranger things happen. Registrant: HK Cable TV Ltd Cable Multi-Media Services 12/F., Cable TV Tower Tsuen Wan HK No Valid City, No Valid State Domain Name: HKCABLE.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: DNS, Administrator 12/F.,Cable TV Tower,9 Hoi Shing Road Tsuen Wan HK +852 2112-7969 fax: +852 2112-7676 Record expires on 27-Jan-2007. Record created on 27-Jan-1999. Database last updated on 21-Oct-2006 21:32:27 EDT. Domain servers in listed order: DNS1.I-CABLE.COM 203.83.110.1 DNS2.I-CABLE.COM 203.83.111.1 -- Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 "Franc Zabkar" wrote in message ... On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:14:53 +0800, "Herbert Chan" put finger to keyboard and composed: Hello, My pc is win98se and I have a broadband internet connection. I have been using the broadband for a few years. And since the beginning of this year, my internet connection will be intermittently lost. At first, I thought something was wrong with the modem, which is terayon TA-102. I have called the ISP to replace it. However, the problem is still there. Then I tried to get used to it. Whenever I lose the connection, I will need to reboot my computer to get the connection back (the modem does not need to be flipped off then on). I called the technical support again today, and we've looked at the modem and it didn't appear that my modem was failing to provide a signal for me. Then I run winipcfg and see that there are 3 entries: PPP Adapter., Microsoft TV/Video Connection and Realtek 8139-series PCI NIC. PPP adapter is for dialup connection and Realtek is the network card for broadband. The technical support girl said win98se will sometimes switch from the network card to PPP adapter, although she doesn't know under what circumstances this will happen. And the problem I've got is because my computer has switched on its own accord from the network card to PPP adapter. I have the same Realtek NIC and an ISA fax/modem in a Win98SE box. FWIW, I have never had the problem you describe. In any case I can't understand why the dial-up adapter should grab hold of your Internet connection. Do you see any connection attempts in your modemlog? Is there an rnaapp task running when you lose your ADSL connection (type Ctrl+Alt+Del to see the running tasks)? - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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Frank,
From what I find I don't believe the OP is using ADSL but is using cable, which in no way could interfere with dialup. Well, I guess I shouldn't say "in no way", I've seen stranger things happen. Registrant: HK Cable TV Ltd Cable Multi-Media Services 12/F., Cable TV Tower Tsuen Wan HK No Valid City, No Valid State Domain Name: HKCABLE.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: DNS, Administrator 12/F.,Cable TV Tower,9 Hoi Shing Road Tsuen Wan HK +852 2112-7969 fax: +852 2112-7676 Record expires on 27-Jan-2007. Record created on 27-Jan-1999. Database last updated on 21-Oct-2006 21:32:27 EDT. Domain servers in listed order: DNS1.I-CABLE.COM 203.83.110.1 DNS2.I-CABLE.COM 203.83.111.1 -- Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 "Franc Zabkar" wrote in message ... On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:14:53 +0800, "Herbert Chan" put finger to keyboard and composed: Hello, My pc is win98se and I have a broadband internet connection. I have been using the broadband for a few years. And since the beginning of this year, my internet connection will be intermittently lost. At first, I thought something was wrong with the modem, which is terayon TA-102. I have called the ISP to replace it. However, the problem is still there. Then I tried to get used to it. Whenever I lose the connection, I will need to reboot my computer to get the connection back (the modem does not need to be flipped off then on). I called the technical support again today, and we've looked at the modem and it didn't appear that my modem was failing to provide a signal for me. Then I run winipcfg and see that there are 3 entries: PPP Adapter., Microsoft TV/Video Connection and Realtek 8139-series PCI NIC. PPP adapter is for dialup connection and Realtek is the network card for broadband. The technical support girl said win98se will sometimes switch from the network card to PPP adapter, although she doesn't know under what circumstances this will happen. And the problem I've got is because my computer has switched on its own accord from the network card to PPP adapter. I have the same Realtek NIC and an ISA fax/modem in a Win98SE box. FWIW, I have never had the problem you describe. In any case I can't understand why the dial-up adapter should grab hold of your Internet connection. Do you see any connection attempts in your modemlog? Is there an rnaapp task running when you lose your ADSL connection (type Ctrl+Alt+Del to see the running tasks)? - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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Wow, the following information is pretty marvelous. I've no idea the details
of the ISP is so readily available. It also indeed seems odd that if the computer will somehow jump to dialup on its own accord. Right now, I've just tried the most primitive thing: I've pulled the plug from my faxmodem and I haven't lost the connection for a day. Hope this will be the solution. If I drop connection again, I will uninstall the dialup option like what Ingeborg said. And there are no dialup connections installed under Internet options. I will keep a copy of route print. Hopefully I won't lose my connection again and so I don't need to compare the difference between the temp.txt. Thank you for all your suggestions. Herbert "Brian A" gonefish'n@afarawaylake ¦b¶l¥ó ¤¤¼¶¼g... Frank, From what I find I don't believe the OP is using ADSL but is using cable, which in no way could interfere with dialup. Well, I guess I shouldn't say "in no way", I've seen stranger things happen. Registrant: HK Cable TV Ltd Cable Multi-Media Services 12/F., Cable TV Tower Tsuen Wan HK No Valid City, No Valid State Domain Name: HKCABLE.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: DNS, Administrator 12/F.,Cable TV Tower,9 Hoi Shing Road Tsuen Wan HK +852 2112-7969 fax: +852 2112-7676 Record expires on 27-Jan-2007. Record created on 27-Jan-1999. Database last updated on 21-Oct-2006 21:32:27 EDT. Domain servers in listed order: DNS1.I-CABLE.COM 203.83.110.1 DNS2.I-CABLE.COM 203.83.111.1 -- Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 "Franc Zabkar" wrote in message ... On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:14:53 +0800, "Herbert Chan" put finger to keyboard and composed: Hello, My pc is win98se and I have a broadband internet connection. I have been using the broadband for a few years. And since the beginning of this year, my internet connection will be intermittently lost. At first, I thought something was wrong with the modem, which is terayon TA-102. I have called the ISP to replace it. However, the problem is still there. Then I tried to get used to it. Whenever I lose the connection, I will need to reboot my computer to get the connection back (the modem does not need to be flipped off then on). I called the technical support again today, and we've looked at the modem and it didn't appear that my modem was failing to provide a signal for me. Then I run winipcfg and see that there are 3 entries: PPP Adapter., Microsoft TV/Video Connection and Realtek 8139-series PCI NIC. PPP adapter is for dialup connection and Realtek is the network card for broadband. The technical support girl said win98se will sometimes switch from the network card to PPP adapter, although she doesn't know under what circumstances this will happen. And the problem I've got is because my computer has switched on its own accord from the network card to PPP adapter. I have the same Realtek NIC and an ISA fax/modem in a Win98SE box. FWIW, I have never had the problem you describe. In any case I can't understand why the dial-up adapter should grab hold of your Internet connection. Do you see any connection attempts in your modemlog? Is there an rnaapp task running when you lose your ADSL connection (type Ctrl+Alt+Del to see the running tasks)? - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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Wow, the following information is pretty marvelous. I've no idea the details
of the ISP is so readily available. It also indeed seems odd that if the computer will somehow jump to dialup on its own accord. Right now, I've just tried the most primitive thing: I've pulled the plug from my faxmodem and I haven't lost the connection for a day. Hope this will be the solution. If I drop connection again, I will uninstall the dialup option like what Ingeborg said. And there are no dialup connections installed under Internet options. I will keep a copy of route print. Hopefully I won't lose my connection again and so I don't need to compare the difference between the temp.txt. Thank you for all your suggestions. Herbert "Brian A" gonefish'n@afarawaylake ¦b¶l¥ó ¤¤¼¶¼g... Frank, From what I find I don't believe the OP is using ADSL but is using cable, which in no way could interfere with dialup. Well, I guess I shouldn't say "in no way", I've seen stranger things happen. Registrant: HK Cable TV Ltd Cable Multi-Media Services 12/F., Cable TV Tower Tsuen Wan HK No Valid City, No Valid State Domain Name: HKCABLE.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: DNS, Administrator 12/F.,Cable TV Tower,9 Hoi Shing Road Tsuen Wan HK +852 2112-7969 fax: +852 2112-7676 Record expires on 27-Jan-2007. Record created on 27-Jan-1999. Database last updated on 21-Oct-2006 21:32:27 EDT. Domain servers in listed order: DNS1.I-CABLE.COM 203.83.110.1 DNS2.I-CABLE.COM 203.83.111.1 -- Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 "Franc Zabkar" wrote in message ... On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:14:53 +0800, "Herbert Chan" put finger to keyboard and composed: Hello, My pc is win98se and I have a broadband internet connection. I have been using the broadband for a few years. And since the beginning of this year, my internet connection will be intermittently lost. At first, I thought something was wrong with the modem, which is terayon TA-102. I have called the ISP to replace it. However, the problem is still there. Then I tried to get used to it. Whenever I lose the connection, I will need to reboot my computer to get the connection back (the modem does not need to be flipped off then on). I called the technical support again today, and we've looked at the modem and it didn't appear that my modem was failing to provide a signal for me. Then I run winipcfg and see that there are 3 entries: PPP Adapter., Microsoft TV/Video Connection and Realtek 8139-series PCI NIC. PPP adapter is for dialup connection and Realtek is the network card for broadband. The technical support girl said win98se will sometimes switch from the network card to PPP adapter, although she doesn't know under what circumstances this will happen. And the problem I've got is because my computer has switched on its own accord from the network card to PPP adapter. I have the same Realtek NIC and an ISA fax/modem in a Win98SE box. FWIW, I have never had the problem you describe. In any case I can't understand why the dial-up adapter should grab hold of your Internet connection. Do you see any connection attempts in your modemlog? Is there an rnaapp task running when you lose your ADSL connection (type Ctrl+Alt+Del to see the running tasks)? - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:32:13 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: If DUN isn't going to be used, Who knows what's going to be needed in the future? He may decide to get a backup internet connection by dialup in case his broadband is offline. the easiest thing to do is to uninstall it or disable it. Gets rid of the problem permanently. DUN may not even be the problem. But assuming for a momrnt it *is*, uninstalling it is a cop out not a solution. Jim. |
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