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WinME pausing. Really need help with this one.
Hi all! I have a fairly recent problem pop up but one that I cannot live
with - nor seem to troubleshoot. I have a Celeron 466 clocked to 525 w/ 256 Ram and 32M V-Card, modem and Ethernet card. Also running ME, cordless MS mouse/keyboard and 80 Gig HDD partitioned to 3 drives ( c:\ = 8Gig) I realize this is a lengthy explanation but when I comb through other posts, the respondents always seem to need more details so here they are. First, not looking for any 'buy a new PC' or 'throw away ME' type of advice because that doesn't solve anything! Fact is, I am happy with ME and this PC is fast enough for what I need it for. I keep it fairly tuned - software wise, no misc programs at start-up nor PCHealth, system restore is off etc. I've been on plenty of friends' PCs running XP that are far slower than mine for booting up/powering down with CPUs of the most recent clockspeeds. Here's the problem: I recently moved and now have hi-speed DSL. It ran quite well at first [ a week ago ] but I am having major problems now; perhaps the problems were there but I never used the software that seems to make the problems appear. Most noticeably, whenever I am on the Net, particularly when watching streaming video or downloading via P2P, the mouse freezes up intermittently and momentarily. The problem gradually worsens. Videos seem to pause and the sound repeats itself - often for several seconds and then everything resumes only to happen again. The strange thing is, even when I shut the net off, the problem persists, but not as bad AND seemingly goes away with time but never completely. Like I stated, this wasn't evident at first so I didn' t draw a connection to using the Internet. It can get extremely bad when I do several searches on a P2P program at once. There is no HD activity when the pauses occur and the problem does not occur unless I have connected to the net. Again, if I disconnect, the problem persists but not as bad. I have also noticed one or more windows in IE freezing - well, the window opens but the page doesn't load nor do toolbars so I must 'End Task'. Frequent soft reboots are also required, leading to a scandisk. This is from one of two reasons: the mouse never 'unpauses' OR, during powerdown, I get a black screen and the cycle does not complete. In EITHER of these instances, 'Ctrl-Alt-Del' does NOTHING except OCCASSIONALLY, I will hear the system internal speaker click rapidly whenever I move the mouse (beep on error?) I did scan for viruses yesterday and to my surprise there were over 6000! NONE of these activated during start-up however. These viruses were all located in 2 directories only and not associated with any program I use. They were all the same virus - as reported by Mcafee - same file size just a different name. In a nutshell, I do not feel this is at all related to the problem. I also DO NOT run the virus scanner or a firewall except on demand - which is rare. What have I done to troubleshoot? Trial and error to narrow down when this problem appears - as already explained. Have defragmented the drive, cleaned the registry (JV16 powertools), uninstalled and reinstalled a few programs, and spent a lot of time searching for others with similar problems. The latter I have found and the suspect often seems to be a network card ( which I have, obviously ). Another frequent suspect is the mouse/keyboard. Mine are both wireless. However, no clear solutions have been posted. Whats my next step? Thanks a heap for reading! MajBach |
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Suspect spyware!
such problems are often caused by spyware - download Ad-Aware from www.lavasoftusa.com, install, update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such nasties from your system. See what it reports, and post back What Virus did your AV detect - and were the definitions up-to-date? -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "MajBach1" wrote in message ... Hi all! I have a fairly recent problem pop up but one that I cannot live with - nor seem to troubleshoot. I have a Celeron 466 clocked to 525 w/ 256 Ram and 32M V-Card, modem and Ethernet card. Also running ME, cordless MS mouse/keyboard and 80 Gig HDD partitioned to 3 drives ( c:\ = 8Gig) I realize this is a lengthy explanation but when I comb through other posts, the respondents always seem to need more details so here they are. First, not looking for any 'buy a new PC' or 'throw away ME' type of advice because that doesn't solve anything! Fact is, I am happy with ME and this PC is fast enough for what I need it for. I keep it fairly tuned - software wise, no misc programs at start-up nor PCHealth, system restore is off etc. I've been on plenty of friends' PCs running XP that are far slower than mine for booting up/powering down with CPUs of the most recent clockspeeds. Here's the problem: I recently moved and now have hi-speed DSL. It ran quite well at first [ a week ago ] but I am having major problems now; perhaps the problems were there but I never used the software that seems to make the problems appear. Most noticeably, whenever I am on the Net, particularly when watching streaming video or downloading via P2P, the mouse freezes up intermittently and momentarily. The problem gradually worsens. Videos seem to pause and the sound repeats itself - often for several seconds and then everything resumes only to happen again. The strange thing is, even when I shut the net off, the problem persists, but not as bad AND seemingly goes away with time but never completely. Like I stated, this wasn't evident at first so I didn' t draw a connection to using the Internet. It can get extremely bad when I do several searches on a P2P program at once. There is no HD activity when the pauses occur and the problem does not occur unless I have connected to the net. Again, if I disconnect, the problem persists but not as bad. I have also noticed one or more windows in IE freezing - well, the window opens but the page doesn't load nor do toolbars so I must 'End Task'. Frequent soft reboots are also required, leading to a scandisk. This is from one of two reasons: the mouse never 'unpauses' OR, during powerdown, I get a black screen and the cycle does not complete. In EITHER of these instances, 'Ctrl-Alt-Del' does NOTHING except OCCASSIONALLY, I will hear the system internal speaker click rapidly whenever I move the mouse (beep on error?) I did scan for viruses yesterday and to my surprise there were over 6000! NONE of these activated during start-up however. These viruses were all located in 2 directories only and not associated with any program I use. They were all the same virus - as reported by Mcafee - same file size just a different name. In a nutshell, I do not feel this is at all related to the problem. I also DO NOT run the virus scanner or a firewall except on demand - which is rare. What have I done to troubleshoot? Trial and error to narrow down when this problem appears - as already explained. Have defragmented the drive, cleaned the registry (JV16 powertools), uninstalled and reinstalled a few programs, and spent a lot of time searching for others with similar problems. The latter I have found and the suspect often seems to be a network card ( which I have, obviously ). Another frequent suspect is the mouse/keyboard. Mine are both wireless. However, no clear solutions have been posted. Whats my next step? Thanks a heap for reading! MajBach |
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Noel Paton wrote:
Suspect spyware! such problems are often caused by spyware - download Ad-Aware from www.lavasoftusa.com, install, update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such nasties from your system. See what it reports, and post back What Virus did your AV detect - and were the definitions up-to-date? and what P2P Rick so I know what to expect when the kids try that one... for some reason all the ones they try usually only work for a day or two vbeg |
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Shareaza.
Note: This program NEVER has caused problems in the past. "Rick T" wrote in message ... Noel Paton wrote: Suspect spyware! such problems are often caused by spyware - download Ad-Aware from www.lavasoftusa.com, install, update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such nasties from your system. See what it reports, and post back What Virus did your AV detect - and were the definitions up-to-date? and what P2P Rick so I know what to expect when the kids try that one... for some reason all the ones they try usually only work for a day or two vbeg |
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Anti-spyware tools
free Ad-Aware SE 1.05 from Lavasoft (http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/) free SpyBot 1.3 (http://security.kolla.de/) Pest Patrol http://www.pestpatrol.com Spy Sweeper http://www.webroot.com/products/spys...3dc4a7b2258456 ------ Anti-spyware tools Adware/spyware/hijackers and other types of malicious programs are a different animal. These can only be fought with certain anti-spyware programs and (most importantly) by educating users. Here are some links that will get you up to speed on the scope of the problem as well as some recommended solutions. The Parasite Fight: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm AumHa Forums :: View Forum - Parasites - Adware, Spyware & Other Scumwa http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=28 Security at Home: Spywa http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx Merijn.org: http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/ Lavasoft: Adaware SE http://www.lavasoftusa.com/english/ The home of Spybot-S&D!: http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html -- Ronnie Vernon Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User Dec 2004 --- Here is the best site I know for tracking bad choices in antiparasite softwa http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows/Security Windows Support Center: http://aumha.org/ AumHa Forums: http://aumha.net/ Jan 2005 ------ HTH, -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "MajBach1" wrote in message ... Shareaza. Note: This program NEVER has caused problems in the past. "Rick T" wrote in message ... Noel Paton wrote: Suspect spyware! such problems are often caused by spyware - download Ad-Aware from www.lavasoftusa.com, install, update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such nasties from your system. See what it reports, and post back What Virus did your AV detect - and were the definitions up-to-date? and what P2P Rick so I know what to expect when the kids try that one... for some reason all the ones they try usually only work for a day or two vbeg |
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It' not only the P2P program that causes problems - it's the sites it links
to. All it takes is for one to get infected, and suddenly you have viruses crawling out of every orifice!! -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "MajBach1" wrote in message ... Shareaza. Note: This program NEVER has caused problems in the past. "Rick T" wrote in message ... Noel Paton wrote: Suspect spyware! such problems are often caused by spyware - download Ad-Aware from www.lavasoftusa.com, install, update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such nasties from your system. See what it reports, and post back What Virus did your AV detect - and were the definitions up-to-date? and what P2P Rick so I know what to expect when the kids try that one... for some reason all the ones they try usually only work for a day or two vbeg |
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Little bit of an update: I have that the PC DOES exhibit this problem even
when I haven't loaded a P2P or viewed a live stream - it just gets worse when I do that. I didn't know that about P2P and viruses. I do not understand how a virus gets through unless it is part of the file you are downloading. BTW, when I said I used anti-virus on-demand earlier, this is when - to scan files I have downloaded. My reason for using Shareaza is due to the fact that I never get bad files. Anyway, I have purchased Ad-Aware and Bulletproof (trial). Other than cookies, there were only two registry values that were flagged. Despite the fact that I usually bat 1000 when it comes to troubleshooting software problems, I know little about hardware and networking. My gut feeling is that this has something to do with the internet or my ethernet card. Maybe I should try connecting the modem USB? I'm sure my USB is 1.1, will I experience a bandwidth restriction this way? Yes, I have decided to do a clean install of WinME. However, I am still eager to determine what causes this behavior - just in case the problem re-appears. Thanks again for all the advice so far. "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... It' not only the P2P program that causes problems - it's the sites it links to. All it takes is for one to get infected, and suddenly you have viruses crawling out of every orifice!! -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "MajBach1" wrote in message ... Shareaza. Note: This program NEVER has caused problems in the past. "Rick T" wrote in message ... Noel Paton wrote: Suspect spyware! such problems are often caused by spyware - download Ad-Aware from www.lavasoftusa.com, install, update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such nasties from your system. See what it reports, and post back What Virus did your AV detect - and were the definitions up-to-date? and what P2P Rick so I know what to expect when the kids try that one... for some reason all the ones they try usually only work for a day or two vbeg |
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IMHO, you are totally misunderstanding your situation, and I urge you to let
Noel walk you through a better solution before it's too late. This is not the time (yet) to do a clean reinstall! -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "MajBach1" wrote in message ... Little bit of an update: I have that the PC DOES exhibit this problem even when I haven't loaded a P2P or viewed a live stream - it just gets worse when I do that. I didn't know that about P2P and viruses. I do not understand how a virus gets through unless it is part of the file you are downloading. BTW, when I said I used anti-virus on-demand earlier, this is when - to scan files I have downloaded. My reason for using Shareaza is due to the fact that I never get bad files. Anyway, I have purchased Ad-Aware and Bulletproof (trial). Other than cookies, there were only two registry values that were flagged. Despite the fact that I usually bat 1000 when it comes to troubleshooting software problems, I know little about hardware and networking. My gut feeling is that this has something to do with the internet or my ethernet card. Maybe I should try connecting the modem USB? I'm sure my USB is 1.1, will I experience a bandwidth restriction this way? Yes, I have decided to do a clean install of WinME. However, I am still eager to determine what causes this behavior - just in case the problem re-appears. Thanks again for all the advice so far. "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... It' not only the P2P program that causes problems - it's the sites it links to. All it takes is for one to get infected, and suddenly you have viruses crawling out of every orifice!! -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "MajBach1" wrote in message ... Shareaza. Note: This program NEVER has caused problems in the past. "Rick T" wrote in message ... Noel Paton wrote: Suspect spyware! such problems are often caused by spyware - download Ad-Aware from www.lavasoftusa.com, install, update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such nasties from your system. See what it reports, and post back What Virus did your AV detect - and were the definitions up-to-date? and what P2P Rick so I know what to expect when the kids try that one... for some reason all the ones they try usually only work for a day or two vbeg |
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It does look as if your system is clean (more by luck than judgement, I
suspect!), so we have to look elsewhere for the source of your problems. Reinstalling ME clean will (probably) solve the immediate problem - only to have it return at some later date, and then you'll go through the same process again - and again..... If you cure the problem now, you should be able to prevent a recurrence - and avoid the hassle of a reinstall. The first thing to do is to find out what's running on your box when the problem hits - I suggest downloading Process Explorer from www.sysinternals.com - have it running in the background and make a note of what's consuming CPU cycles and/or RAM when the problem strikes - post back with that data, and we'll see where we go from there. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "MajBach1" wrote in message ... Little bit of an update: I have that the PC DOES exhibit this problem even when I haven't loaded a P2P or viewed a live stream - it just gets worse when I do that. I didn't know that about P2P and viruses. I do not understand how a virus gets through unless it is part of the file you are downloading. BTW, when I said I used anti-virus on-demand earlier, this is when - to scan files I have downloaded. My reason for using Shareaza is due to the fact that I never get bad files. Anyway, I have purchased Ad-Aware and Bulletproof (trial). Other than cookies, there were only two registry values that were flagged. Despite the fact that I usually bat 1000 when it comes to troubleshooting software problems, I know little about hardware and networking. My gut feeling is that this has something to do with the internet or my ethernet card. Maybe I should try connecting the modem USB? I'm sure my USB is 1.1, will I experience a bandwidth restriction this way? Yes, I have decided to do a clean install of WinME. However, I am still eager to determine what causes this behavior - just in case the problem re-appears. Thanks again for all the advice so far. "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... It' not only the P2P program that causes problems - it's the sites it links to. All it takes is for one to get infected, and suddenly you have viruses crawling out of every orifice!! -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "MajBach1" wrote in message ... Shareaza. Note: This program NEVER has caused problems in the past. "Rick T" wrote in message ... Noel Paton wrote: Suspect spyware! such problems are often caused by spyware - download Ad-Aware from www.lavasoftusa.com, install, update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such nasties from your system. See what it reports, and post back What Virus did your AV detect - and were the definitions up-to-date? and what P2P Rick so I know what to expect when the kids try that one... for some reason all the ones they try usually only work for a day or two vbeg |
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In ,
Noel Paton had this to say: All it takes is for one to get infected, and suddenly you have viruses crawling out of every orifice!! I'm not sure where nor when Noel but I am sure that there will eventually be a time and a place where comments like that are saved and etched in stone. I almost wet my pants. That could be because I'm getting older and perhaps incontinent but truth be told it's really because it was just that funny. Galen -- "My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for mental exaltation." -- Sherlock Holmes |
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