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Networking XP and 98
I'm having what I think is a similiar problem. I've
previously networked my 2 win98 computers through a kingston hub which is also connected to a DSL modem. Worked fine. I was able to share printing and files as well as the internet. I've disconnected one of the old computers and connected my new desktop running XP. I ran the network setup wizard, created the disk then ran it on the win98 computer still connected to the network. Both the computers can access the internet fine but for some reason they won't recognize each other. When I view the network they each only show themselves. The win98 computer has tcp/ip, client for Ms networks, and file and printer sharing for MS networks. Both computers have the same workgroup, HOME. I have shared files on both computers and the firewall is disabled on the XP computer, the win98 computer has no firewall. Any ideas? |
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Networking XP and 98
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wrote: I'm having what I think is a similiar problem. I've previously networked my 2 win98 computers through a kingston hub which is also connected to a DSL modem. Worked fine. I was able to share printing and files as well as the internet. I've disconnected one of the old computers and connected my new desktop running XP. I ran the network setup wizard, created the disk then ran it on the win98 computer still connected to the network. Both the computers can access the internet fine but for some reason they won't recognize each other. When I view the network they each only show themselves. The win98 computer has tcp/ip, client for Ms networks, and file and printer sharing for MS networks. Both computers have the same workgroup, HOME. I have shared files on both computers and the firewall is disabled on the XP computer, the win98 computer has no firewall. Any ideas? Do the computers have IP addresses in the same subnet? If your DSL modem connects to a hub, not a router, they might not -- your ISP could assign different subnets. If they're in different subnets, they can't communicate with each other using TCP/IP. If your computers get public IP addresses from your DSL provider,then: 1. It isn't safe to connect Win98 to the Internet without a firewall, and: 1. it isn't safe to network your computers using TCP/IP, because other Internet users might be able to access them. In that case, un-bind sharing from TCP/IP and install IPX/SPX for sharing on both computers. I've written a web page with details: Windows XP Network Protocols http://www.practicallynetworked.com/..._protocols.htm If you have a router, not a hub, disregard everything that I said above! In that case, these tips should help: 1. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both computers. as shown he Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT) http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...hoot/netbt.htm 2. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a peer-to-peer network for NetBIOS name resolution. If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key: HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters and delete these values if they're present: NodeType DhcpNodeType Reboot, then try network access again. If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for "Mixed". For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles: Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;160177 TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;314053 -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm |
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Networking XP and 98
Looks like we are getting similar problems without
resolution. I recently purchased a laptop with Windows XP and a Linksys router. My PC is Windows 98, rev 2. Through the router both machine access the internet fine and I got the laptop [Windows XP] to share files from the PC, -----Original Message----- I'm having what I think is a similiar problem. I've previously networked my 2 win98 computers through a kingston hub which is also connected to a DSL modem. Worked fine. I was able to share printing and files as well as the internet. I've disconnected one of the old computers and connected my new desktop running XP. I ran the network setup wizard, created the disk then ran it on the win98 computer still connected to the network. Both the computers can access the internet fine but for some reason they won't recognize each other. When I view the network they each only show themselves. The win98 computer has tcp/ip, client for Ms networks, and file and printer sharing for MS networks. Both computers have the same workgroup, HOME. I have shared files on both computers and the firewall is disabled on the XP computer, the win98 computer has no firewall. Any ideas? . |
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Networking XP and 98
Another thing you might consider is what file system the
XP computer is using. If it came with XP pre-installed, chances are thet it is using NTFS. A computer with NTFS cannot see files on a computer using FAT32 (which is Win98's default file system) and vice versa. So if you can't see files back and forth on the computers, check their file systems. If the XP says NTFS, there's no way you can see the 98 computer on the network, or that's what I was led to believe. -----Original Message----- In article 18f7501c44c37$5bb04f10 , "James" wrote: I'm having what I think is a similiar problem. I've previously networked my 2 win98 computers through a kingston hub which is also connected to a DSL modem. Worked fine. I was able to share printing and files as well as the internet. I've disconnected one of the old computers and connected my new desktop running XP. I ran the network setup wizard, created the disk then ran it on the win98 computer still connected to the network. Both the computers can access the internet fine but for some reason they won't recognize each other. When I view the network they each only show themselves. The win98 computer has tcp/ip, client for Ms networks, and file and printer sharing for MS networks. Both computers have the same workgroup, HOME. I have shared files on both computers and the firewall is disabled on the XP computer, the win98 computer has no firewall. Any ideas? Do the computers have IP addresses in the same subnet? If your DSL modem connects to a hub, not a router, they might not -- your ISP could assign different subnets. If they're in different subnets, they can't communicate with each other using TCP/IP. If your computers get public IP addresses from your DSL provider,then: 1. It isn't safe to connect Win98 to the Internet without a firewall, and: 1. it isn't safe to network your computers using TCP/IP, because other Internet users might be able to access them. In that case, un-bind sharing from TCP/IP and install IPX/SPX for sharing on both computers. I've written a web page with details: Windows XP Network Protocols http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...xp/network_pro tocols.htm If you have a router, not a hub, disregard everything that I said above! In that case, these tips should help: 1. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both computers. as shown he Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT) http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...troubleshoot/n etbt.htm 2. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a peer-to-peer network for NetBIOS name resolution. If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key: HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters and delete these values if they're present: NodeType DhcpNodeType Reboot, then try network access again. If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for "Mixed". For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles: Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;160177 TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;314053 -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm . |
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Networking XP and 98
In article , "Andrew"
wrote: Another thing you might consider is what file system the XP computer is using. If it came with XP pre-installed, chances are thet it is using NTFS. A computer with NTFS cannot see files on a computer using FAT32 (which is Win98's default file system) and vice versa. So if you can't see files back and forth on the computers, check their file systems. If the XP says NTFS, there's no way you can see the 98 computer on the network, or that's what I was led to believe. No, that's not the problem. The disk format is completely irrelevant in networking. Windows XP reads its own NTFS disk and sends the data to other computers on the network in a way that's independent of the disk format. If you took an NTFS disk out of a Windows XP computer and mounted the disk in a Windows 98 computer, then there would be a problem: Windows 98 can't read a local NTFS disk. But there's no problem with Windows 98 reading a networked NTFS disk. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm |
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