Networking XP and 98

I'm having what I think is a similiar problem. I've
previously networked my 2 win98 computers through a
kingston hub which is also connected to a DSL modem.
Worked fine. I was able to share printing and files as
well as the internet. I've disconnected one of the old
computers and connected my new desktop running XP. I ran
the network setup wizard, created the disk then ran it on
the win98 computer still connected to the network. Both
the computers can access the internet fine but for some
reason they won't recognize each other. When I view the
network they each only show themselves.

The win98 computer has tcp/ip, client for Ms networks,
and file and printer sharing for MS networks. Both
computers have the same workgroup, HOME. I have shared
files on both computers and the firewall is disabled on
the XP computer, the win98 computer has no firewall. Any
ideas?

In article , "James"
wrote:
I'm having what I think is a similiar problem. I've
previously networked my 2 win98 computers through a
kingston hub which is also connected to a DSL modem.
Worked fine. I was able to share printing and files as
well as the internet. I've disconnected one of the old
computers and connected my new desktop running XP. I ran
the network setup wizard, created the disk then ran it on
the win98 computer still connected to the network. Both
the computers can access the internet fine but for some
reason they won't recognize each other. When I view the
network they each only show themselves.

The win98 computer has tcp/ip, client for Ms networks,
and file and printer sharing for MS networks. Both
computers have the same workgroup, HOME. I have shared
files on both computers and the firewall is disabled on
the XP computer, the win98 computer has no firewall. Any
ideas?

Do the computers have IP addresses in the same subnet? If your DSL
modem connects to a hub, not a router, they might not -- your ISP
could assign different subnets. If they're in different subnets, they
can't communicate with each other using TCP/IP.

If your computers get public IP addresses from your DSL provider,then:

1. It isn't safe to connect Win98 to the Internet without a firewall,
and:

1. it isn't safe to network your computers using TCP/IP, because other
Internet users might be able to access them.

In that case, un-bind sharing from TCP/IP and install IPX/SPX for
sharing on both computers. I've written a web page with details:

Windows XP Network Protocols
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/..._protocols.htm

If you have a router, not a hub, disregard everything that I said
above! In that case, these tips should help:

1. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both computers.
as shown he

Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...hoot/netbt.htm

2. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the
beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should
actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the
computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
peer-to-peer network for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;314053
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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Looks like we are getting similar problems without
resolution. I recently purchased a laptop with Windows XP
and a Linksys router. My PC is Windows 98, rev 2.
Through the router both machine access the internet fine
and I got the laptop [Windows XP] to share files from the
PC,
-----Original Message-----
I'm having what I think is a similiar problem. I've
previously networked my 2 win98 computers through a
kingston hub which is also connected to a DSL modem.
Worked fine. I was able to share printing and files as
well as the internet. I've disconnected one of the old
computers and connected my new desktop running XP. I ran
the network setup wizard, created the disk then ran it on
the win98 computer still connected to the network. Both
the computers can access the internet fine but for some
reason they won't recognize each other. When I view the
network they each only show themselves.

The win98 computer has tcp/ip, client for Ms networks,
and file and printer sharing for MS networks. Both
computers have the same workgroup, HOME. I have shared
files on both computers and the firewall is disabled on
the XP computer, the win98 computer has no firewall. Any
ideas?
.

Another thing you might consider is what file system the
XP computer is using. If it came with XP pre-installed,
chances are thet it is using NTFS. A computer with NTFS
cannot see files on a computer using FAT32 (which is
Win98's default file system) and vice versa. So if you
can't see files back and forth on the computers, check
their file systems. If the XP says NTFS, there's no way
you can see the 98 computer on the network, or that's what
I was led to believe.


-----Original Message-----
In article 18f7501c44c37$5bb04f10
, "James"
wrote:
I'm having what I think is a similiar problem. I've
previously networked my 2 win98 computers through a
kingston hub which is also connected to a DSL modem.
Worked fine. I was able to share printing and files as
well as the internet. I've disconnected one of the old
computers and connected my new desktop running XP. I
ran
the network setup wizard, created the disk then ran it
on
the win98 computer still connected to the network. Both
the computers can access the internet fine but for some
reason they won't recognize each other. When I view the
network they each only show themselves.

The win98 computer has tcp/ip, client for Ms networks,
and file and printer sharing for MS networks. Both
computers have the same workgroup, HOME. I have shared
files on both computers and the firewall is disabled on
the XP computer, the win98 computer has no firewall.
Any
ideas?

Do the computers have IP addresses in the same subnet?
If your DSL
modem connects to a hub, not a router, they might not --
your ISP
could assign different subnets. If they're in different
subnets, they
can't communicate with each other using TCP/IP.

If your computers get public IP addresses from your DSL
provider,then:

1. It isn't safe to connect Win98 to the Internet without
a firewall,
and:

1. it isn't safe to network your computers using TCP/IP,
because other
Internet users might be able to access them.

In that case, un-bind sharing from TCP/IP and install
IPX/SPX for
sharing on both computers. I've written a web page with
details:

Windows XP Network Protocols
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...xp/network_pro
tocols.htm

If you have a router, not a hub, disregard everything
that I said
above! In that case, these tips should help:

1. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both
computers.
as shown he

Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...troubleshoot/n
etbt.htm

2. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type"
at the
beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer"
(which should
actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It
means that the
computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available
on a
peer-to-peer network for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this
key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again,
create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast"
or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;314053
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news
group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer
questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
.

In article , "Andrew"
wrote:
Another thing you might consider is what file system the
XP computer is using. If it came with XP pre-installed,
chances are thet it is using NTFS. A computer with NTFS
cannot see files on a computer using FAT32 (which is
Win98's default file system) and vice versa. So if you
can't see files back and forth on the computers, check
their file systems. If the XP says NTFS, there's no way
you can see the 98 computer on the network, or that's what
I was led to believe.

No, that's not the problem.

The disk format is completely irrelevant in networking. Windows XP
reads its own NTFS disk and sends the data to other computers on the
network in a way that's independent of the disk format.

If you took an NTFS disk out of a Windows XP computer and mounted the
disk in a Windows 98 computer, then there would be a problem: Windows
98 can't read a local NTFS disk. But there's no problem with Windows
98 reading a networked NTFS disk.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm