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Recover from winold
Some background (I have windows 98 SE):
I upgraded to aol broadband 2 days ago. All appeared to go well. I used it all evening. Signed off. Yesterday I tried to sign in and couldn't. Could only get in on safemode. Disabled various start up actions via msconfig. No luck. Turned to my manufacturers recovery disc. Couldn't get in until I did an install that created a back-up in WINOLD. Didn't realise what I was doing - I don't want to have to re-install everything on my pc, I want to restore WINOLD dir to WINDOWS dir. How do I do this please? Then I'll need some help solving my original login problem! Thanks guys. |
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Thanks for that Jeff. Thought it would be simple. I will have to try that
this evening after work. Just to confirm, I did try renaming in Windows and I wasn't allowed. Because I'm renaming in DOS I will be allowed. Correct? Is it jumping the gun to assume this will work and ask how I go about solving my initial log in problem experienced after installing aol braodband? Laurence "Jeff Richards" wrote: Boot to DOS. Rename \Windows to \Winnew and rename \Winold to \Windows. C: CD \ MOVE WINDOWS WINNEW MOVE WINOLD WINDOWS Whether or not that works depends on exactly what the re-installation did, but if it doesn't work it's easy enough to change things back. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Laurence Browne MK" Laurence Browne wrote in message ... Some background (I have windows 98 SE): I upgraded to aol broadband 2 days ago. All appeared to go well. I used it all evening. Signed off. Yesterday I tried to sign in and couldn't. Could only get in on safemode. Disabled various start up actions via msconfig. No luck. Turned to my manufacturers recovery disc. Couldn't get in until I did an install that created a back-up in WINOLD. Didn't realise what I was doing - I don't want to have to re-install everything on my pc, I want to restore WINOLD dir to WINDOWS dir. How do I do this please? Then I'll need some help solving my original login problem! Thanks guys. |
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1) correct
2) We need to know the EXACT error message you get on boot - then we can work on it -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Laurence Browne MK" wrote in message ... Thanks for that Jeff. Thought it would be simple. I will have to try that this evening after work. Just to confirm, I did try renaming in Windows and I wasn't allowed. Because I'm renaming in DOS I will be allowed. Correct? Is it jumping the gun to assume this will work and ask how I go about solving my initial log in problem experienced after installing aol braodband? Laurence "Jeff Richards" wrote: Boot to DOS. Rename \Windows to \Winnew and rename \Winold to \Windows. C: CD \ MOVE WINDOWS WINNEW MOVE WINOLD WINDOWS Whether or not that works depends on exactly what the re-installation did, but if it doesn't work it's easy enough to change things back. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Laurence Browne MK" Laurence Browne wrote in message ... Some background (I have windows 98 SE): I upgraded to aol broadband 2 days ago. All appeared to go well. I used it all evening. Signed off. Yesterday I tried to sign in and couldn't. Could only get in on safemode. Disabled various start up actions via msconfig. No luck. Turned to my manufacturers recovery disc. Couldn't get in until I did an install that created a back-up in WINOLD. Didn't realise what I was doing - I don't want to have to re-install everything on my pc, I want to restore WINOLD dir to WINDOWS dir. How do I do this please? Then I'll need some help solving my original login problem! Thanks guys. |
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Thanks Noel.
Wasn't getting an error message. It just hung. Showed the Windows 98 flash screen, then went back to DOS, did a bit more processing, then hung. "Noel Paton" wrote: 1) correct 2) We need to know the EXACT error message you get on boot - then we can work on it -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Laurence Browne MK" wrote in message ... Thanks for that Jeff. Thought it would be simple. I will have to try that this evening after work. Just to confirm, I did try renaming in Windows and I wasn't allowed. Because I'm renaming in DOS I will be allowed. Correct? Is it jumping the gun to assume this will work and ask how I go about solving my initial log in problem experienced after installing aol braodband? Laurence "Jeff Richards" wrote: Boot to DOS. Rename \Windows to \Winnew and rename \Winold to \Windows. C: CD \ MOVE WINDOWS WINNEW MOVE WINOLD WINDOWS Whether or not that works depends on exactly what the re-installation did, but if it doesn't work it's easy enough to change things back. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Laurence Browne MK" Laurence Browne wrote in message ... Some background (I have windows 98 SE): I upgraded to aol broadband 2 days ago. All appeared to go well. I used it all evening. Signed off. Yesterday I tried to sign in and couldn't. Could only get in on safemode. Disabled various start up actions via msconfig. No luck. Turned to my manufacturers recovery disc. Couldn't get in until I did an install that created a back-up in WINOLD. Didn't realise what I was doing - I don't want to have to re-install everything on my pc, I want to restore WINOLD dir to WINDOWS dir. How do I do this please? Then I'll need some help solving my original login problem! Thanks guys. |
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:12:05 -0800, Laurence Browne MK
put finger to keyboard and composed: Thanks Noel. Wasn't getting an error message. It just hung. Showed the Windows 98 flash screen, then went back to DOS, did a bit more processing, then hung. When Windows is running, among other things it will be looking for certain files in the Windows directory, eg the swap file and temp files. Therefore renaming the Windows directory during a Windows session would not be a good idea. "Noel Paton" wrote: 1) correct 2) We need to know the EXACT error message you get on boot - then we can work on it -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Laurence Browne MK" wrote in message ... Thanks for that Jeff. Thought it would be simple. I will have to try that this evening after work. Just to confirm, I did try renaming in Windows and I wasn't allowed. Because I'm renaming in DOS I will be allowed. Correct? Is it jumping the gun to assume this will work and ask how I go about solving my initial log in problem experienced after installing aol braodband? Laurence "Jeff Richards" wrote: Boot to DOS. Rename \Windows to \Winnew and rename \Winold to \Windows. C: CD \ MOVE WINDOWS WINNEW MOVE WINOLD WINDOWS Whether or not that works depends on exactly what the re-installation did, but if it doesn't work it's easy enough to change things back. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Laurence Browne MK" Laurence Browne wrote in message ... Some background (I have windows 98 SE): I upgraded to aol broadband 2 days ago. All appeared to go well. I used it all evening. Signed off. Yesterday I tried to sign in and couldn't. Could only get in on safemode. Disabled various start up actions via msconfig. No luck. Turned to my manufacturers recovery disc. Couldn't get in until I did an install that created a back-up in WINOLD. Didn't realise what I was doing - I don't want to have to re-install everything on my pc, I want to restore WINOLD dir to WINDOWS dir. How do I do this please? Then I'll need some help solving my original login problem! Thanks guys. - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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Franc,
I'm opening in Command mode. Is that outside Windows? Noel/Jeff, I could rename Windows to Winnew no problem. Got a "Bad command..." error when trying to rename Winold to Windows. Same error when trying to rename anything to Windows. Although not precisely what I asked when I was checking that I could rename Windows Dir in DOS I did want to check that this procedure would work before wasting another day, and Noel said I could rename in DOS! I do not have internet access at home while I have this problem so any suggestions you guys make are going to be picked up by me at work. I then have to go home and try them out. For it to fail at the first hurdle is frustrating and means I've lost another day trying to sort out this problem. Appreciate your help (I've got nowhere else to turn) but surely in DOS 'not being able to rename dir's to WINDOWS is standard? How can I get the rename to work? Thanks. Laurence "Franc Zabkar" wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:12:05 -0800, Laurence Browne MK put finger to keyboard and composed: Thanks Noel. Wasn't getting an error message. It just hung. Showed the Windows 98 flash screen, then went back to DOS, did a bit more processing, then hung. When Windows is running, among other things it will be looking for certain files in the Windows directory, eg the swap file and temp files. Therefore renaming the Windows directory during a Windows session would not be a good idea. "Noel Paton" wrote: 1) correct 2) We need to know the EXACT error message you get on boot - then we can work on it -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Laurence Browne MK" wrote in message ... Thanks for that Jeff. Thought it would be simple. I will have to try that this evening after work. Just to confirm, I did try renaming in Windows and I wasn't allowed. Because I'm renaming in DOS I will be allowed. Correct? Is it jumping the gun to assume this will work and ask how I go about solving my initial log in problem experienced after installing aol braodband? Laurence "Jeff Richards" wrote: Boot to DOS. Rename \Windows to \Winnew and rename \Winold to \Windows. C: CD \ MOVE WINDOWS WINNEW MOVE WINOLD WINDOWS Whether or not that works depends on exactly what the re-installation did, but if it doesn't work it's easy enough to change things back. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Laurence Browne MK" Laurence Browne wrote in message ... Some background (I have windows 98 SE): I upgraded to aol broadband 2 days ago. All appeared to go well. I used it all evening. Signed off. Yesterday I tried to sign in and couldn't. Could only get in on safemode. Disabled various start up actions via msconfig. No luck. Turned to my manufacturers recovery disc. Couldn't get in until I did an install that created a back-up in WINOLD. Didn't realise what I was doing - I don't want to have to re-install everything on my pc, I want to restore WINOLD dir to WINDOWS dir. How do I do this please? Then I'll need some help solving my original login problem! Thanks guys. - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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The first rename might have removed your access to the MOVE command. For
the second rename try C:\WinNEW\Command\Move WINOLD WINDOWS -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Laurence Browne MK" wrote in message ... Franc, I'm opening in Command mode. Is that outside Windows? Noel/Jeff, I could rename Windows to Winnew no problem. Got a "Bad command..." error when trying to rename Winold to Windows. Same error when trying to rename anything to Windows. Although not precisely what I asked when I was checking that I could rename Windows Dir in DOS I did want to check that this procedure would work before wasting another day, and Noel said I could rename in DOS! I do not have internet access at home while I have this problem so any suggestions you guys make are going to be picked up by me at work. I then have to go home and try them out. For it to fail at the first hurdle is frustrating and means I've lost another day trying to sort out this problem. Appreciate your help (I've got nowhere else to turn) but surely in DOS 'not being able to rename dir's to WINDOWS is standard? How can I get the rename to work? Thanks. Laurence "Franc Zabkar" wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:12:05 -0800, Laurence Browne MK put finger to keyboard and composed: Thanks Noel. Wasn't getting an error message. It just hung. Showed the Windows 98 flash screen, then went back to DOS, did a bit more processing, then hung. When Windows is running, among other things it will be looking for certain files in the Windows directory, eg the swap file and temp files. Therefore renaming the Windows directory during a Windows session would not be a good idea. "Noel Paton" wrote: 1) correct 2) We need to know the EXACT error message you get on boot - then we can work on it -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Laurence Browne MK" wrote in message ... Thanks for that Jeff. Thought it would be simple. I will have to try that this evening after work. Just to confirm, I did try renaming in Windows and I wasn't allowed. Because I'm renaming in DOS I will be allowed. Correct? Is it jumping the gun to assume this will work and ask how I go about solving my initial log in problem experienced after installing aol braodband? Laurence "Jeff Richards" wrote: Boot to DOS. Rename \Windows to \Winnew and rename \Winold to \Windows. C: CD \ MOVE WINDOWS WINNEW MOVE WINOLD WINDOWS Whether or not that works depends on exactly what the re-installation did, but if it doesn't work it's easy enough to change things back. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Laurence Browne MK" Laurence Browne wrote in message ... Some background (I have windows 98 SE): I upgraded to aol broadband 2 days ago. All appeared to go well. I used it all evening. Signed off. Yesterday I tried to sign in and couldn't. Could only get in on safemode. Disabled various start up actions via msconfig. No luck. Turned to my manufacturers recovery disc. Couldn't get in until I did an install that created a back-up in WINOLD. Didn't realise what I was doing - I don't want to have to re-install everything on my pc, I want to restore WINOLD dir to WINDOWS dir. How do I do this please? Then I'll need some help solving my original login problem! Thanks guys. - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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Boot from a Floppy and try from there
-- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Laurence Browne MK" wrote in message ... Franc, I'm opening in Command mode. Is that outside Windows? Noel/Jeff, I could rename Windows to Winnew no problem. Got a "Bad command..." error when trying to rename Winold to Windows. Same error when trying to rename anything to Windows. Although not precisely what I asked when I was checking that I could rename Windows Dir in DOS I did want to check that this procedure would work before wasting another day, and Noel said I could rename in DOS! I do not have internet access at home while I have this problem so any suggestions you guys make are going to be picked up by me at work. I then have to go home and try them out. For it to fail at the first hurdle is frustrating and means I've lost another day trying to sort out this problem. Appreciate your help (I've got nowhere else to turn) but surely in DOS 'not being able to rename dir's to WINDOWS is standard? How can I get the rename to work? Thanks. Laurence "Franc Zabkar" wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:12:05 -0800, Laurence Browne MK put finger to keyboard and composed: Thanks Noel. Wasn't getting an error message. It just hung. Showed the Windows 98 flash screen, then went back to DOS, did a bit more processing, then hung. When Windows is running, among other things it will be looking for certain files in the Windows directory, eg the swap file and temp files. Therefore renaming the Windows directory during a Windows session would not be a good idea. "Noel Paton" wrote: 1) correct 2) We need to know the EXACT error message you get on boot - then we can work on it -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Laurence Browne MK" wrote in message ... Thanks for that Jeff. Thought it would be simple. I will have to try that this evening after work. Just to confirm, I did try renaming in Windows and I wasn't allowed. Because I'm renaming in DOS I will be allowed. Correct? Is it jumping the gun to assume this will work and ask how I go about solving my initial log in problem experienced after installing aol braodband? Laurence "Jeff Richards" wrote: Boot to DOS. Rename \Windows to \Winnew and rename \Winold to \Windows. C: CD \ MOVE WINDOWS WINNEW MOVE WINOLD WINDOWS Whether or not that works depends on exactly what the re-installation did, but if it doesn't work it's easy enough to change things back. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Laurence Browne MK" Laurence Browne wrote in message ... Some background (I have windows 98 SE): I upgraded to aol broadband 2 days ago. All appeared to go well. I used it all evening. Signed off. Yesterday I tried to sign in and couldn't. Could only get in on safemode. Disabled various start up actions via msconfig. No luck. Turned to my manufacturers recovery disc. Couldn't get in until I did an install that created a back-up in WINOLD. Didn't realise what I was doing - I don't want to have to re-install everything on my pc, I want to restore WINOLD dir to WINDOWS dir. How do I do this please? Then I'll need some help solving my original login problem! Thanks guys. - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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That was it thanks Jeff.
So... I have now renamed my Winold back to Windows. I can't boot up in normal mode (which I expected) - no error messages just hangs. I can boot up in safe mode - my desktop icons are back, no errors, things seem to work. So to the original problem... Normal Mode seems to hang - "Mode Select Code Page Function" is the last thing displayed when it hangs. Safe Mode is ok. I ran Option 2 - which creates a boot.txt file. At the bottom of this file is: [00094DED] Starting Unknown (HTREE\RESERVED\0) [00094DEE] Started Unknown (HTREE\RESERVED\0) [00094DEF] Enumerating Unknown (HTREE\RESERVED\0) [00094DEF] Enumerated Unknown (HTREE\RESERVED\0) Looked at BOOT.PRV file. Not sure if this relates to my safe mode boot - the file dates are the same. The above tasks are there also and the task immediately following is: Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator (ROOT\SWENUM\000) Any suggestions or more info I can capture? Laurence "Jeff Richards" wrote: The first rename might have removed your access to the MOVE command. For the second rename try C:\WinNEW\Command\Move WINOLD WINDOWS -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Laurence Browne MK" wrote in message ... Franc, I'm opening in Command mode. Is that outside Windows? Noel/Jeff, I could rename Windows to Winnew no problem. Got a "Bad command..." error when trying to rename Winold to Windows. Same error when trying to rename anything to Windows. Although not precisely what I asked when I was checking that I could rename Windows Dir in DOS I did want to check that this procedure would work before wasting another day, and Noel said I could rename in DOS! I do not have internet access at home while I have this problem so any suggestions you guys make are going to be picked up by me at work. I then have to go home and try them out. For it to fail at the first hurdle is frustrating and means I've lost another day trying to sort out this problem. Appreciate your help (I've got nowhere else to turn) but surely in DOS 'not being able to rename dir's to WINDOWS is standard? How can I get the rename to work? Thanks. Laurence "Franc Zabkar" wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:12:05 -0800, Laurence Browne MK put finger to keyboard and composed: Thanks Noel. Wasn't getting an error message. It just hung. Showed the Windows 98 flash screen, then went back to DOS, did a bit more processing, then hung. When Windows is running, among other things it will be looking for certain files in the Windows directory, eg the swap file and temp files. Therefore renaming the Windows directory during a Windows session would not be a good idea. "Noel Paton" wrote: 1) correct 2) We need to know the EXACT error message you get on boot - then we can work on it -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Laurence Browne MK" wrote in message ... Thanks for that Jeff. Thought it would be simple. I will have to try that this evening after work. Just to confirm, I did try renaming in Windows and I wasn't allowed. Because I'm renaming in DOS I will be allowed. Correct? Is it jumping the gun to assume this will work and ask how I go about solving my initial log in problem experienced after installing aol braodband? Laurence "Jeff Richards" wrote: Boot to DOS. Rename \Windows to \Winnew and rename \Winold to \Windows. C: CD \ MOVE WINDOWS WINNEW MOVE WINOLD WINDOWS Whether or not that works depends on exactly what the re-installation did, but if it doesn't work it's easy enough to change things back. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Laurence Browne MK" Laurence Browne wrote in message ... Some background (I have windows 98 SE): I upgraded to aol broadband 2 days ago. All appeared to go well. I used it all evening. Signed off. Yesterday I tried to sign in and couldn't. Could only get in on safemode. Disabled various start up actions via msconfig. No luck. Turned to my manufacturers recovery disc. Couldn't get in until I did an install that created a back-up in WINOLD. Didn't realise what I was doing - I don't want to have to re-install everything on my pc, I want to restore WINOLD dir to WINDOWS dir. How do I do this please? Then I'll need some help solving my original login problem! Thanks guys. - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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