Conflict involving dial-up, IE, other processes

My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009; Q831167

The following problem has plagued me for a long time.

I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both off-line
and on-line -- except for one situation.

The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my Internet
provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame on the
screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The IE
button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows it not
responding so I delete it.

Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with it.

After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open and
close it repeatedly without problem.

But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then dialup
again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first attempt
to load.

Other Programs that I typically use:

Pegasus Mail
Mailwasher
Agent news-reader
F-Prot anti-virus
ZoneAlarm firewall

Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is more
than just IE. Today it was:

URL Proxy
Rnaapp
MmTask

Advice will be appreciated,
Stan Hilliard

Stan Hilliard wrote:
My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009; Q831167

The following problem has plagued me for a long time.

I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both off-line
and on-line -- except for one situation.

The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my Internet
provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame on the
screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The IE
button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows it not
responding so I delete it.

Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with it.

After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open and
close it repeatedly without problem.

But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then dialup
again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first attempt
to load.

Other Programs that I typically use:

Pegasus Mail
Mailwasher
Agent news-reader
F-Prot anti-virus
ZoneAlarm firewall

Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is more
than just IE. Today it was:

URL Proxy
Rnaapp
MmTask

Advice will be appreciated,
Stan Hilliard

Stan,

Have you tried a repair of IE?

Start Settings Control Panel Add/Remove Programs.

Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies depending on
whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry beginning
"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's logic?).

Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option and 'OK'.

You will probably need to reboot afterwards.

HTH

--
Regards

Nigel Stapley

www.judgemental.plus.com

reply-to will bounce

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:12:06 +0100, Nigel Stapley
wrote:

Stan Hilliard wrote:
My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009; Q831167

The following problem has plagued me for a long time.

I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both off-line
and on-line -- except for one situation.

The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my Internet
provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame on the
screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The IE
button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows it not
responding so I delete it.

Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with it.

After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open and
close it repeatedly without problem.

But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then dialup
again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first attempt
to load.

Other Programs that I typically use:

Pegasus Mail
Mailwasher
Agent news-reader
F-Prot anti-virus
ZoneAlarm firewall

Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is more
than just IE. Today it was:

URL Proxy
Rnaapp
MmTask

Advice will be appreciated,
Stan Hilliard

Stan,

Have you tried a repair of IE?

Start Settings Control Panel Add/Remove Programs.

Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies depending on
whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry beginning
"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's logic?).

Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option and 'OK'.

You will probably need to reboot afterwards.

HTH

I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to temporarily
disable my many TSRs.

On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
and worked OK.

That is with a sample size of 1.

And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm are
running.

Stan Hilliard

Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint which is the
culprit.

Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus scan.

Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available he
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and click the Fix button.

Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for Updates' link in the
app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove what it finds.
Ad-Awa
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/

Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system, and then remove
the items in RED only.
SpyBot S&D:
http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download

Install SpywareBlaster:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then click to 'Enable
all protection'.
Update at least weekly.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:12:06 +0100, Nigel Stapley
wrote:

Stan Hilliard wrote:
My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009; Q831167

The following problem has plagued me for a long time.

I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both off-line
and on-line -- except for one situation.

The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my Internet
provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame on the
screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The IE
button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows it not
responding so I delete it.

Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with it.

After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open and
close it repeatedly without problem.

But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then dialup
again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first attempt
to load.

Other Programs that I typically use:

Pegasus Mail
Mailwasher
Agent news-reader
F-Prot anti-virus
ZoneAlarm firewall

Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is more
than just IE. Today it was:

URL Proxy
Rnaapp
MmTask

Advice will be appreciated,
Stan Hilliard

Stan,

Have you tried a repair of IE?

Start Settings Control Panel Add/Remove Programs.

Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies depending on
whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry beginning
"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's logic?).

Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option and 'OK'.

You will probably need to reboot afterwards.

HTH

I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to temporarily
disable my many TSRs.

On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
and worked OK.

That is with a sample size of 1.

And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm are
running.

Stan Hilliard

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:34:07 -0400, "glee"
wrote:

Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint which is the
culprit.

Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus scan.

Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available he
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and click the Fix button.

Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for Updates' link in the
app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove what it finds.
Ad-Awa
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/

Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system, and then remove
the items in RED only.
SpyBot S&D:
http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download

Install SpywareBlaster:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then click to 'Enable
all protection'.
Update at least weekly.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:12:06 +0100, Nigel Stapley
wrote:

Stan Hilliard wrote:
My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009; Q831167

The following problem has plagued me for a long time.

I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both off-line
and on-line -- except for one situation.

The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my Internet
provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame on the
screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The IE
button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows it not
responding so I delete it.

Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with it.

After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open and
close it repeatedly without problem.

But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then dialup
again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first attempt
to load.

Other Programs that I typically use:

Pegasus Mail
Mailwasher
Agent news-reader
F-Prot anti-virus
ZoneAlarm firewall

Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is more
than just IE. Today it was:

URL Proxy
Rnaapp
MmTask

Advice will be appreciated,
Stan Hilliard

Stan,

Have you tried a repair of IE?

Start Settings Control Panel Add/Remove Programs.

Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies depending on
whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry beginning
"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's logic?).

Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option and 'OK'.

You will probably need to reboot afterwards.

HTH

I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to temporarily
disable my many TSRs.

On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
and worked OK.

That is with a sample size of 1.

And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm are
running.

Stan Hilliard

I restored all of my resident programs at once to see if any one or a
combination of them has been responsible for the trashing of IE on its
first startup after dialup and logging in.

Right now I have 19 processes listed in [ctrl][alt][del].

So far, I have made two successful startups of IE after dialing-in and
logging-on with the resident processes running. I also rebooted the
computer each time.

Q: Can anyone point me to an explanation of what the IE Repair process
does?

Stan Hilliard

Are you saying IE Repair repaired you? Well... go see whether you can
figure the writings inside... "C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt".

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Stan Hilliard" wrote in
message ...
| On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:34:07 -0400, "glee"
| wrote:
|
| Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint which
is the
| culprit.
|
| Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus
scan.
|
| Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available he
| http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
| http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
| Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and click
the Fix button.
|
| Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for
Updates' link in the
| app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove
what it finds.
| Ad-Awa
| http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/
|
| Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system,
and then remove
| the items in RED only.
| SpyBot S&D:
| http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download
|
| Install SpywareBlaster:
| http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
| Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then
click to 'Enable
| all protection'.
| Update at least weekly.
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|
|
| "Stan Hilliard" wrote in
message
| .. .
| On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:12:06 +0100, Nigel Stapley
| wrote:
|
| Stan Hilliard wrote:
| My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
| Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
| Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009;
Q831167
|
| The following problem has plagued me for a long time.
|
| I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both
off-line
| and on-line -- except for one situation.
|
| The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my
Internet
| provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame
on the
| screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The
IE
| button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows
it not
| responding so I delete it.
|
| Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with
it.
|
| After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open
and
| close it repeatedly without problem.
|
| But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then
dialup
| again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first
attempt
| to load.
|
| Other Programs that I typically use:
|
| Pegasus Mail
| Mailwasher
| Agent news-reader
| F-Prot anti-virus
| ZoneAlarm firewall
|
| Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is
more
| than just IE. Today it was:
|
| URL Proxy
| Rnaapp
| MmTask
|
| Advice will be appreciated,
| Stan Hilliard
|
| Stan,
|
| Have you tried a repair of IE?
|
| Start Settings Control Panel Add/Remove Programs.
|
| Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies
depending on
| whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry
beginning
| "Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's
logic?).
|
| Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option
and 'OK'.
|
| You will probably need to reboot afterwards.
|
| HTH
|
| I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to
temporarily
| disable my many TSRs.
|
| On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
| and worked OK.
|
| That is with a sample size of 1.
|
| And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm
are
| running.
|
| Stan Hilliard
|
| I restored all of my resident programs at once to see if any one or a
| combination of them has been responsible for the trashing of IE on its
| first startup after dialup and logging in.
|
| Right now I have 19 processes listed in [ctrl][alt][del].
|
| So far, I have made two successful startups of IE after dialing-in and
| logging-on with the resident processes running. I also rebooted the
| computer each time.
|
| Q: Can anyone point me to an explanation of what the IE Repair process
| does?
|
| Stan Hilliard

Description of the Internet Explorer Repair Tool:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=194177
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:34:07 -0400, "glee"
wrote:

Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint which is the
culprit.

Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus scan.

Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available he
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and click the Fix
button.

Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for Updates' link in
the
app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove what it
finds.
Ad-Awa
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/

Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system, and then
remove
the items in RED only.
SpyBot S&D:
http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download

Install SpywareBlaster:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then click to 'Enable
all protection'.
Update at least weekly.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:12:06 +0100, Nigel Stapley
wrote:

Stan Hilliard wrote:
My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009; Q831167

The following problem has plagued me for a long time.

I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both off-line
and on-line -- except for one situation.

The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my Internet
provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame on the
screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The IE
button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows it not
responding so I delete it.

Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with it.

After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open and
close it repeatedly without problem.

But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then dialup
again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first attempt
to load.

Other Programs that I typically use:

Pegasus Mail
Mailwasher
Agent news-reader
F-Prot anti-virus
ZoneAlarm firewall

Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is more
than just IE. Today it was:

URL Proxy
Rnaapp
MmTask

Advice will be appreciated,
Stan Hilliard

Stan,

Have you tried a repair of IE?

Start Settings Control Panel Add/Remove Programs.

Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies depending on
whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry beginning
"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's logic?).

Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option and 'OK'.

You will probably need to reboot afterwards.

HTH

I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to temporarily
disable my many TSRs.

On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
and worked OK.

That is with a sample size of 1.

And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm are
running.

Stan Hilliard

I restored all of my resident programs at once to see if any one or a
combination of them has been responsible for the trashing of IE on its
first startup after dialup and logging in.

Right now I have 19 processes listed in [ctrl][alt][del].

So far, I have made two successful startups of IE after dialing-in and
logging-on with the resident processes running. I also rebooted the
computer each time.

Q: Can anyone point me to an explanation of what the IE Repair process
does?

Stan Hilliard

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:20:07 -0400, "PCR" wrote:

Are you saying IE Repair repaired you? Well... go see whether you can
figure the writings inside... "C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt".

I don't know for sure what fixed it -- or if it is fixed. So far I
have had only 4 complete trials over 2 days. That is a very small
sample size, considering that hundreds of different combinations of
factors can possibly occur.

"C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt" seems to indicate a successful run.

If Fix IE Log.txt found any errors it did not say so, but I don't know
if it reports the problems or just fixes them.

Another file is "Reg Save Log.txt" dated two minutes after
FixIELog.txt. Its contents is:
ValueName = HKCU,Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,First Home
Page
CRCValueName = 3bdd6b017b35029e


ANOTHER ISSUE:
In searching in "C:\Windows\" for "Fix IE Log.txt" I sorted the file
names alphabetically. I discovered that my "C:\Windows\" directory
contains 905 files of the following type:
(a few examples, all of size=0)

ffe05f89_{D2866B06-FF2F-11D8-A704-E0C858C1C050}.tmp
ffe19351_{C4803D04-95FE-11D8-A704-A08360C10000}.tmp
ffe1d2c9_{0D00F585-91E3-11D8-A704-D04E5AC18484}.tmp
ffe219c3_{BA574044-8E14-11D8-A704-E0805DC10171}.tmp
ffe4deb5_{307E05E6-D4EE-11D8-A704-800D5CC10107}.tmp
ffffe669_{96FCF446-33CA-11D8-A703-60A751C12700}.tmp

That is only six of the nine hundred five files!

The date-modified starts at 12/16/03 11:32AM and ends today 10/20/04
10:06AM, There were two such files at exactly that time.

MO
Another file in "C:\Windows\" is ErrorLog.txt. It is dated today
10/20/04 and has two entries for today -- although its entries go back
to Sat Dec 20 14:54:28 CST 2003. All entries have the same error
message:

Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)
Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)

MY QUESTION IS: What processes create those files:
"*.tmp"
" ErrorLog.txt"
"Reg Save Log.txt"
and what do the messages in the log files indicate?

Sincerely, Stan Hilliard

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Stan Hilliard" wrote in
message ...
| On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:34:07 -0400, "glee"
| wrote:
|
| Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint which
is the
| culprit.
|
| Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus
scan.
|
| Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available he
| http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
| http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
| Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and click
the Fix button.
|
| Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for
Updates' link in the
| app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove
what it finds.
| Ad-Awa
| http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/
|
| Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system,
and then remove
| the items in RED only.
| SpyBot S&D:
| http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download
|
| Install SpywareBlaster:
| http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
| Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then
click to 'Enable
| all protection'.
| Update at least weekly.
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|
|
| "Stan Hilliard" wrote in
message
| .. .
| On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:12:06 +0100, Nigel Stapley
| wrote:
|
| Stan Hilliard wrote:
| My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
| Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
| Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009;
Q831167
|
| The following problem has plagued me for a long time.
|
| I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both
off-line
| and on-line -- except for one situation.
|
| The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my
Internet
| provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame
on the
| screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The
IE
| button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows
it not
| responding so I delete it.
|
| Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with
it.
|
| After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open
and
| close it repeatedly without problem.
|
| But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then
dialup
| again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first
attempt
| to load.
|
| Other Programs that I typically use:
|
| Pegasus Mail
| Mailwasher
| Agent news-reader
| F-Prot anti-virus
| ZoneAlarm firewall
|
| Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is
more
| than just IE. Today it was:
|
| URL Proxy
| Rnaapp
| MmTask
|
| Advice will be appreciated,
| Stan Hilliard
|
| Stan,
|
| Have you tried a repair of IE?
|
| Start Settings Control Panel Add/Remove Programs.
|
| Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies
depending on
| whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry
beginning
| "Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's
logic?).
|
| Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option
and 'OK'.
|
| You will probably need to reboot afterwards.
|
| HTH
|
| I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to
temporarily
| disable my many TSRs.
|
| On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
| and worked OK.
|
| That is with a sample size of 1.
|
| And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm
are
| running.
|
| Stan Hilliard
|
| I restored all of my resident programs at once to see if any one or a
| combination of them has been responsible for the trashing of IE on its
| first startup after dialup and logging in.
|
| Right now I have 19 processes listed in [ctrl][alt][del].
|
| So far, I have made two successful startups of IE after dialing-in and
| logging-on with the resident processes running. I also rebooted the
| computer each time.
|
| Q: Can anyone point me to an explanation of what the IE Repair process
| does?
|
| Stan Hilliard

I can explain ErrorLog.txt.

It is put there by ZoneAlarm firewall. I usually start the firewall
manually just prior to dialing in and logging on to the Internet.

The message must mean that I the Internet is not connected -- which is
true.

But I don't understand the "proxy" part of the message in:

Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)

Could that mean that I have something configured wrong?

Stan Hilliard

=========
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:33:50 -0500, Stan Hilliard
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:20:07 -0400, "PCR" wrote:

Are you saying IE Repair repaired you? Well... go see whether you can
figure the writings inside... "C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt".

I don't know for sure what fixed it -- or if it is fixed. So far I
have had only 4 complete trials over 2 days. That is a very small
sample size, considering that hundreds of different combinations of
factors can possibly occur.

"C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt" seems to indicate a successful run.

If Fix IE Log.txt found any errors it did not say so, but I don't know
if it reports the problems or just fixes them.

Another file is "Reg Save Log.txt" dated two minutes after
FixIELog.txt. Its contents is:
ValueName = HKCU,Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,First Home
Page
CRCValueName = 3bdd6b017b35029e


ANOTHER ISSUE:
In searching in "C:\Windows\" for "Fix IE Log.txt" I sorted the file
names alphabetically. I discovered that my "C:\Windows\" directory
contains 905 files of the following type:
(a few examples, all of size=0)

ffe05f89_{D2866B06-FF2F-11D8-A704-E0C858C1C050}.tmp
ffe19351_{C4803D04-95FE-11D8-A704-A08360C10000}.tmp
ffe1d2c9_{0D00F585-91E3-11D8-A704-D04E5AC18484}.tmp
ffe219c3_{BA574044-8E14-11D8-A704-E0805DC10171}.tmp
ffe4deb5_{307E05E6-D4EE-11D8-A704-800D5CC10107}.tmp
ffffe669_{96FCF446-33CA-11D8-A703-60A751C12700}.tmp

That is only six of the nine hundred five files!

The date-modified starts at 12/16/03 11:32AM and ends today 10/20/04
10:06AM, There were two such files at exactly that time.

MO
Another file in "C:\Windows\" is ErrorLog.txt. It is dated today
10/20/04 and has two entries for today -- although its entries go back
to Sat Dec 20 14:54:28 CST 2003. All entries have the same error
message:

Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)
Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)

MY QUESTION IS: What processes create those files:
"*.tmp"
" ErrorLog.txt"
"Reg Save Log.txt"
and what do the messages in the log files indicate?

Sincerely, Stan Hilliard

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Stan Hilliard" wrote in
message ...
| On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:34:07 -0400, "glee"
| wrote:
|
| Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint which
is the
| culprit.
|
| Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus
scan.
|
| Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available he
| http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
| http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
| Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and click
the Fix button.
|
| Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for
Updates' link in the
| app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove
what it finds.
| Ad-Awa
| http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/
|
| Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system,
and then remove
| the items in RED only.
| SpyBot S&D:
| http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download
|
| Install SpywareBlaster:
| http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
| Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then
click to 'Enable
| all protection'.
| Update at least weekly.
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|
|
| "Stan Hilliard" wrote in
message
| .. .
| On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:12:06 +0100, Nigel Stapley
| wrote:
|
| Stan Hilliard wrote:
| My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
| Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
| Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009;
Q831167
|
| The following problem has plagued me for a long time.
|
| I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both
off-line
| and on-line -- except for one situation.
|
| The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my
Internet
| provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame
on the
| screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The
IE
| button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows
it not
| responding so I delete it.
|
| Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with
it.
|
| After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open
and
| close it repeatedly without problem.
|
| But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then
dialup
| again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first
attempt
| to load.
|
| Other Programs that I typically use:
|
| Pegasus Mail
| Mailwasher
| Agent news-reader
| F-Prot anti-virus
| ZoneAlarm firewall
|
| Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is
more
| than just IE. Today it was:
|
| URL Proxy
| Rnaapp
| MmTask
|
| Advice will be appreciated,
| Stan Hilliard
|
| Stan,
|
| Have you tried a repair of IE?
|
| Start Settings Control Panel Add/Remove Programs.
|
| Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies
depending on
| whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry
beginning
| "Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's
logic?).
|
| Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option
and 'OK'.
|
| You will probably need to reboot afterwards.
|
| HTH
|
| I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to
temporarily
| disable my many TSRs.
|
| On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
| and worked OK.
|
| That is with a sample size of 1.
|
| And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm
are
| running.
|
| Stan Hilliard
|
| I restored all of my resident programs at once to see if any one or a
| combination of them has been responsible for the trashing of IE on its
| first startup after dialup and logging in.
|
| Right now I have 19 processes listed in [ctrl][alt][del].
|
| So far, I have made two successful startups of IE after dialing-in and
| logging-on with the resident processes running. I also rebooted the
| computer each time.
|
| Q: Can anyone point me to an explanation of what the IE Repair process
| does?
|
| Stan Hilliard

Turn off MDM....MDM is loaded with programs such as Office, and Microsoft Script
Debugger.

OFF: How to Turn Off Machine Debug Manager, Mdm.exe
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321410

OFF2000: Files Whose Name Begins with "fff" Appear in Windows Folder:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=221438
says:

"To work around this issue, remove Mdm.exe to be started as a service on Window 95
and Windows 98 platforms. To do this, remove Mdm.exe from the list under the
following registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunServices

"After all running instances of Mdm.exe are ended and no longer listed within Task
Manager, you can delete any of the TMP files from the root of the Windows directory
without affecting either the Microsoft Script Editor or Mdm.exe. The effect of
taking this step is that remote debugging is disabled, provided that an instance of
Mdm.exe is not started at the time an error is encountered. However, if another
application reinstalls Mdm.exe, or if Mdm.exe /Regserver is run on a computer that
is running Window 95 or Windows 98, Mdm.exe is re-added to the RunServices registry
key "

"NOTE: Running the Detect and Repair feature within Office 2000 causes Mdm.exe to be
re-registered on the system."

"Additionally, if the system has Internet Explorer version 5 or later, Mdm.exe can
still be configured to start at the startup of Window 95 or Windows 98, if the
script debugging feature in Internet Explorer is turned on. You can turn off this
feature within Internet Explorer. On the Tools menu, click Internet Options. On the
Advanced tab under Setting, make sure that Disable script debugging is selected."
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:20:07 -0400, "PCR" wrote:

Are you saying IE Repair repaired you? Well... go see whether you can
figure the writings inside... "C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt".

I don't know for sure what fixed it -- or if it is fixed. So far I
have had only 4 complete trials over 2 days. That is a very small
sample size, considering that hundreds of different combinations of
factors can possibly occur.

"C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt" seems to indicate a successful run.

If Fix IE Log.txt found any errors it did not say so, but I don't know
if it reports the problems or just fixes them.

Another file is "Reg Save Log.txt" dated two minutes after
FixIELog.txt. Its contents is:
ValueName = HKCU,Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,First Home
Page
CRCValueName = 3bdd6b017b35029e


ANOTHER ISSUE:
In searching in "C:\Windows\" for "Fix IE Log.txt" I sorted the file
names alphabetically. I discovered that my "C:\Windows\" directory
contains 905 files of the following type:
(a few examples, all of size=0)

ffe05f89_{D2866B06-FF2F-11D8-A704-E0C858C1C050}.tmp
ffe19351_{C4803D04-95FE-11D8-A704-A08360C10000}.tmp
ffe1d2c9_{0D00F585-91E3-11D8-A704-D04E5AC18484}.tmp
ffe219c3_{BA574044-8E14-11D8-A704-E0805DC10171}.tmp
ffe4deb5_{307E05E6-D4EE-11D8-A704-800D5CC10107}.tmp
ffffe669_{96FCF446-33CA-11D8-A703-60A751C12700}.tmp

That is only six of the nine hundred five files!

The date-modified starts at 12/16/03 11:32AM and ends today 10/20/04
10:06AM, There were two such files at exactly that time.

MO
Another file in "C:\Windows\" is ErrorLog.txt. It is dated today
10/20/04 and has two entries for today -- although its entries go back
to Sat Dec 20 14:54:28 CST 2003. All entries have the same error
message:

Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)
Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)

MY QUESTION IS: What processes create those files:
"*.tmp"
" ErrorLog.txt"
"Reg Save Log.txt"
and what do the messages in the log files indicate?

Sincerely, Stan Hilliard

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Stan Hilliard" wrote in
message ...
| On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:34:07 -0400, "glee"
| wrote:
|
| Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint which
is the
| culprit.
|
| Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus
scan.
|
| Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available he
| http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
| http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
| Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and click
the Fix button.
|
| Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for
Updates' link in the
| app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove
what it finds.
| Ad-Awa
| http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/
|
| Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system,
and then remove
| the items in RED only.
| SpyBot S&D:
| http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download
|
| Install SpywareBlaster:
| http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
| Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then
click to 'Enable
| all protection'.
| Update at least weekly.
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|
|
| "Stan Hilliard" wrote in
message
| .. .
| On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:12:06 +0100, Nigel Stapley
| wrote:
|
| Stan Hilliard wrote:
| My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
| Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
| Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009;
Q831167
|
| The following problem has plagued me for a long time.
|
| I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both
off-line
| and on-line -- except for one situation.
|
| The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my
Internet
| provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame
on the
| screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The
IE
| button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows
it not
| responding so I delete it.
|
| Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with
it.
|
| After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open
and
| close it repeatedly without problem.
|
| But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then
dialup
| again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first
attempt
| to load.
|
| Other Programs that I typically use:
|
| Pegasus Mail
| Mailwasher
| Agent news-reader
| F-Prot anti-virus
| ZoneAlarm firewall
|
| Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is
more
| than just IE. Today it was:
|
| URL Proxy
| Rnaapp
| MmTask
|
| Advice will be appreciated,
| Stan Hilliard
|
| Stan,
|
| Have you tried a repair of IE?
|
| Start Settings Control Panel Add/Remove Programs.
|
| Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies
depending on
| whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry
beginning
| "Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's
logic?).
|
| Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option
and 'OK'.
|
| You will probably need to reboot afterwards.
|
| HTH
|
| I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to
temporarily
| disable my many TSRs.
|
| On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
| and worked OK.
|
| That is with a sample size of 1.
|
| And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm
are
| running.
|
| Stan Hilliard
|
| I restored all of my resident programs at once to see if any one or a
| combination of them has been responsible for the trashing of IE on its
| first startup after dialup and logging in.
|
| Right now I have 19 processes listed in [ctrl][alt][del].
|
| So far, I have made two successful startups of IE after dialing-in and
| logging-on with the resident processes running. I also rebooted the
| computer each time.
|
| Q: Can anyone point me to an explanation of what the IE Repair process
| does?
|
| Stan Hilliard