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How to fix Usenet access?
google did it again!
I was very happy with google acces to Usent, except for some quirks, for which I had 'workarounds' Now, google has done something to 'improve' exept for me! I go to groups, all are listed. highlight a specific group, like this one. everything comes in, EXCEPT for the most important part, the list of postings! Shows all is in and done, so there is no more activity. Refresh, and keep getting the same screen - blank where the list of postings should be Using Opera 9.64 on Win98 [and very happy except for this tiny disadvantage, so don't tell me to change to Some other browser.] Since I can't read a single posting on ANY Usenet group, I now rely upon Eternal September, which is more and more attractive for its simplicity. However, I can't post through Eternal September. Perhaps, I don't have everything set up properly. But, in defense, ES asked for stuff I have no idea what they want or where to find to allow me to post through them. So, Anybody know a way to fix the google access? Or, what EXACTLY am I supposed to put into ES to be able to post through them? [PS I can read responses to this question, but won't be able to answer for awhile] |
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Robert Macy wrote:
google did it again! I was very happy with google acces to Usenet, Explain again why you don't (didn't) access usenet through a normal (and free) server? Using Opera 9.64 on Win98 [and very happy except for this tiny disadvantage, so don't tell me to change to Some other browser. You should not be using a browser (any browser) to experience usenet. Since I can't read a single posting on ANY Usenet group, I now rely upon Eternal September Why didn't you choose AIOE? No registration (user-name/password garbage). However, I can't post through Eternal September. What are you using (what software) to connect to Maternal September? What-ever it is, change your server setting to nntp.aioe.org. |
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On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 13:34:22 -0700, 98 Guy wrote:
Robert Macy wrote: google did it again! I was very happy with google acces to Usenet, Explain again why you don't (didn't) access usenet through a normal (and free) server? Using Opera 9.64 on Win98 [and very happy except for this tiny disadvantage, so don't tell me to change to Some other browser. You should not be using a browser (any browser) to experience usenet. Since I can't read a single posting on ANY Usenet group, I now rely upon Eternal September Why didn't you choose AIOE? No registration (user-name/password garbage). However, I can't post through Eternal September. What are you using (what software) to connect to Maternal September? What-ever it is, change your server setting to nntp.aioe.org. tried again. 16th time !!! |
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Robert Macy full-quoted:
What are you using (what software) to connect to Maternal September? What-ever it is, change your server setting to nntp.aioe.org. tried again. 16th time !!! In the newsgroup server properties, make sure you have the following options set: Security: Not Encrypted (or - no encryption, no SSL) Username/Password: Do not ask for username/password or select "none" Port: 119 What software are you using (what usenet client software)? I suggest you use one of the old Netscape Communicator email/usenet clients (4.78 or 4.79) and ONLY use it for usenet (not e-mail). Try this: ftp://ftp.thuntek.net/pub/pc/cc32d478.exe or this: ftp://ftp.paco.net/pub/windows/inter...h/cc32d479.exe This is the 4'th or 5'th time you've raised the issue of having problems with usenet / google, and I've recommended that you use a real news-reader and stop using google groups. Those other times we November 1,2 / 2009 July 22 / 2010 March 4 / 2012 Now it's happening again, July 22, 2013. |
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On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 8:10:29 AM UTC-7, 98 Guy wrote:
Robert Macy full-quoted: What are you using (what software) to connect to Maternal September? What-ever it is, change your server setting to nntp.aioe.org. tried again. 16th time !!! In the newsgroup server properties, make sure you have the following options set: Security: Not Encrypted (or - no encryption, no SSL) Username/Password: Do not ask for username/password or select "none" Port: 119 What software are you using (what usenet client software)? I suggest you use one of the old Netscape Communicator email/usenet clients (4.78 or 4.79) and ONLY use it for usenet (not e-mail). Try this: ftp://ftp.thuntek.net/pub/pc/cc32d478.exe or this: ftp://ftp.paco.net/pub/windows/inter...h/cc32d479.exe This is the 4'th or 5'th time you've raised the issue of having problems with usenet / google, and I've recommended that you use a real news-reader and stop using google groups. Those other times we November 1,2 / 2009 July 22 / 2010 March 4 / 2012 Now it's happening again, July 22, 2013. good old google acess and the nice quoting anyway, that 16th attempt came from the Win98 machine. Sadly I don't remember how I did it. Opera keeps wanting to reply using eternal-september, not aioe.org gut looks like works, ...after a fashion somehow. |
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On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 13:34:22 -0700, 98 Guy wrote:
Robert Macy wrote: google did it again! I was very happy with google acces to Usenet, Explain again why you don't (didn't) access usenet through a normal (and free) server? Using Opera 9.64 on Win98 [and very happy except for this tiny disadvantage, so don't tell me to change to Some other browser. You should not be using a browser (any browser) to experience usenet. Since I can't read a single posting on ANY Usenet group, I now rely upon Eternal September Why didn't you choose AIOE? No registration (user-name/password garbage). However, I can't post through Eternal September. What are you using (what software) to connect to Maternal September? What-ever it is, change your server setting to nntp.aioe.org. YOU DA MAN! I added nntp.aioe.org to Opera. All postings from both e-s and aioe appear in one giant list - very slow to go through. I right click on the posting and a choice to 'reply' comes up. Select reply, and then change the 'from' field from e-s to aioe, wirte the reply, hit send, get an 'error' message something is wrong, but see the reply posted later !! Evidently I did that sequence on my 16th attempt to respond, it worked, but with so many attempts I forgot how I did it. Thanks. |
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On 22 Jul 2013, Robert Macy wrote:
I go to groups, all are listed. highlight a specific group, like this one. everything comes in, EXCEPT for the most important part, the list of postings! Shows all is in and done, so there is no more activity. Refresh, and keep getting the same screen - blank where the list of postings should be Using Opera 9.64 on Win98 [and very happy except for this tiny disadvantage, so don't tell me to change to Some other browser.] Wow! That's amazing. I had that problem ever since Google did their last major upgrade of groups perhaps a year ago. Running Firefox 3.6 and 2 I found that whenever I went to a Usenet group a yellow box would pop down from under the search bar telling me I was using an unsupported browser and recommending I upgrade to (surprise, surprise) Google Chrome. Then it would just sit there with the "Loading..." box, nothing ever appearing where the topic list should be. It offered for me to switch to the old version, but when I selected this option it would just sit at another "Loading..." box. I only ever used Groups for looking through old posts anyway (although that has been extremely useful for that in the past), so I decided I'd just have to stick to posts I archived myself with my Newsreader. Later on a user in another Newsgroup posted a link to narkive.com, which has replaced Groups for me despite its lack of an extensive back archive and (in my opinion) a rather clunky interface. If you want to use it to look up a specific Newsgroup (a surprisingly hard thing to do from the homepage, as far as I can see), simply type the location of the group before "narkive.com". eg. http://microsoft.public.win98.gen-di...n.narkive.com/ Notice that the Underscore is replaced with a Hyphen. Anyhow, the cause of my initial exclamation was that, for one thing I am surprised that an old Opera version running on 98 has worked where old Firefox failed. But mainly, it was a reaction to me just trying to get onto Groups with Firefox 3.6, and it working! I can browse topics, read posts, everything I should be able to do. The compatibility message is gone too. So somehow Google switched compatibility away from you and towards me. Strange. It might be worth waiting to see if any more changes happen that might bring back your Opera compatibility, but I'd suggest strongly that you start using a proper Usenet server anyway. If for some reason though you still want to live in the Web and Google has deserted you, I think Narkive allows posting by members. -- __ __ #_ |\| | _# |
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Robert Macy wrote:
Since I can't read a single posting on ANY Usenet group, I now rely upon Eternal September, which is more and more attractive for its simplicity. However, I can't post through Eternal September. Perhaps, I don't have everything set up properly. But, in defense, ES asked for stuff I have no idea what they want or where to find to allow me to post through them. Point your browser at www.eternal-september.org and click "User registration" in the menu on the left. When you register, they will send you a password to go with the userid that you create. Then you put those into your newsreader along with their Usenet server address, news.eternal-september.org, and you can read and post. -- Tim Slattery |
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Tim Slattery wrote:
Point your browser at www.eternal-september.org and click "User registration" in the menu on the left. Why would you advise him to keep using maternal-september, when aioe is clearly the superior choice? What technical reason is there for suggesting ES over AIOE? |
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On Monday, July 22, 2013 9:17:07 AM UTC-7, 98 Guy wrote:
Tim Slattery wrote: Point your browser at www.eternal-september.org and click "User registration" in the menu on the left. Why would you advise him to keep using maternal-september, when aioe is clearly the superior choice? What technical reason is there for suggesting ES over AIOE? yes, again, google access WAS handy, fast and very intuitive. but now...takes days to update a screen *if* it ever decides to update. Eternal-September was installed years ago, but never used, more of a nuisance. However, when google failed to show any postings; I went back to the list provided by ES to scan down through, reading as needed. Answering? have to go to the WinXP Pro [spit, spit, curse begone!] and use it temporarily. which I'mm now using along with google access through MS IE, which yields these wonderful quote groupings. Anyway, will try out that .org, if works, I'm done ...I'll post a reply to let you know. Just tired of having my time taken up for whizbang, when I don't want whizbang, I just want to read the postings. ..and quickly reply when desired. |
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