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  #1  
Old August 19th 07, 07:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
caroloyl
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Default Backing it all up

Having three C drive failures in just two and a half years requiring me to
reinstall and re-set up every program I use (which I'm doing now) makes me
wonder if it's possible to copy/backup my entire new C drive to a
comparable slave for switching out when this new primary master also goes
belly-up down the road.

I've replaced enough internal hard drives now to know how to switch them and
their jumper pins so the mechanics aren't a problem. But will this
duplicating idea work to give me a fresh bootable functioning Windows et al
with a minimum of trouble?

My thanks in advance for your experience and insight.

calamity carol



























  #2  
Old August 19th 07, 08:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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Default Backing it all up

BootIt NG will do what you want for free. www.bootitng.com. Download the
executable, run it to create a bootable installation floppy or CD, boot to
that (after installing the drive), CANCEL the installation, then use
Partition Work to Copy your C:\ partition to the backup drive.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
Having three C drive failures in just two and a half years requiring me to
reinstall and re-set up every program I use (which I'm doing now) makes me
wonder if it's possible to copy/backup my entire new C drive to a
comparable slave for switching out when this new primary master also goes
belly-up down the road.

I've replaced enough internal hard drives now to know how to switch them
and
their jumper pins so the mechanics aren't a problem. But will this
duplicating idea work to give me a fresh bootable functioning Windows et
al
with a minimum of trouble?

My thanks in advance for your experience and insight.

calamity carol





























  #3  
Old August 19th 07, 08:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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Posts: 2,158
Default Backing it all up

I should mention that a better solution is to get an external HD, and use a
decent backup program, like Acronis True Image, to make regular images of
your system to the external drive. Then all you have to do if the drive goes
bad is to install a new one and use the bootable CD method to restore the
latest image to the new drive. That way *everything* you've done on the old
drive, up to the date of the latest image, including tweaks and personal
data, is restored to the new drive, bootable and all.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
BootIt NG will do what you want for free. www.bootitng.com. Download the
executable, run it to create a bootable installation floppy or CD, boot to
that (after installing the drive), CANCEL the installation, then use
Partition Work to Copy your C:\ partition to the backup drive.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
Having three C drive failures in just two and a half years requiring me
to
reinstall and re-set up every program I use (which I'm doing now) makes
me
wonder if it's possible to copy/backup my entire new C drive to a
comparable slave for switching out when this new primary master also goes
belly-up down the road.

I've replaced enough internal hard drives now to know how to switch them
and
their jumper pins so the mechanics aren't a problem. But will this
duplicating idea work to give me a fresh bootable functioning Windows et
al
with a minimum of trouble?

My thanks in advance for your experience and insight.

calamity carol































  #4  
Old August 20th 07, 01:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Heirloom[_2_]
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Default Backing it all up

+1 on Gary's suggestion. I use Acronis, backing up to an internal HD. My
primary is actually a RAID 0, but, I have 5 HD's in this machine. If one
craps out, I can restore to another and replace at my liesure. The nice
part about an external HD is that you can keep it in a safe place away from
your machine....in the event of a theft or fire, etc. Acronis True Image
is a great program, I highly recommend it.
Heirloom, old and do have backups

"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
I should mention that a better solution is to get an external HD, and use a
decent backup program, like Acronis True Image, to make regular images of
your system to the external drive. Then all you have to do if the drive
goes bad is to install a new one and use the bootable CD method to restore
the latest image to the new drive. That way *everything* you've done on the
old drive, up to the date of the latest image, including tweaks and
personal data, is restored to the new drive, bootable and all.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
BootIt NG will do what you want for free. www.bootitng.com. Download the
executable, run it to create a bootable installation floppy or CD, boot
to that (after installing the drive), CANCEL the installation, then use
Partition Work to Copy your C:\ partition to the backup drive.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
Having three C drive failures in just two and a half years requiring me
to
reinstall and re-set up every program I use (which I'm doing now) makes
me
wonder if it's possible to copy/backup my entire new C drive to a
comparable slave for switching out when this new primary master also
goes
belly-up down the road.

I've replaced enough internal hard drives now to know how to switch them
and
their jumper pins so the mechanics aren't a problem. But will this
duplicating idea work to give me a fresh bootable functioning Windows et
al
with a minimum of trouble?

My thanks in advance for your experience and insight.

calamity carol

































  #5  
Old August 20th 07, 01:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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Posts: 2,158
Default Backing it all up

May as well add that an even more perfect solution is to have TWO external
drives dedicated to backup, swapping them every week and storing the
disconnected one offsite. This can either be two complete external drives,
or two drives using one external enclosure (former is easier, latter is
cheaper.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
+1 on Gary's suggestion. I use Acronis, backing up to an internal HD. My
primary is actually a RAID 0, but, I have 5 HD's in this machine. If one
craps out, I can restore to another and replace at my liesure. The nice
part about an external HD is that you can keep it in a safe place away
from your machine....in the event of a theft or fire, etc. Acronis True
Image is a great program, I highly recommend it.
Heirloom, old and do have backups

"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
I should mention that a better solution is to get an external HD, and use
a decent backup program, like Acronis True Image, to make regular images
of your system to the external drive. Then all you have to do if the drive
goes bad is to install a new one and use the bootable CD method to restore
the latest image to the new drive. That way *everything* you've done on
the old drive, up to the date of the latest image, including tweaks and
personal data, is restored to the new drive, bootable and all.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
BootIt NG will do what you want for free. www.bootitng.com. Download the
executable, run it to create a bootable installation floppy or CD, boot
to that (after installing the drive), CANCEL the installation, then use
Partition Work to Copy your C:\ partition to the backup drive.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
Having three C drive failures in just two and a half years requiring me
to
reinstall and re-set up every program I use (which I'm doing now) makes
me
wonder if it's possible to copy/backup my entire new C drive to a
comparable slave for switching out when this new primary master also
goes
belly-up down the road.

I've replaced enough internal hard drives now to know how to switch
them and
their jumper pins so the mechanics aren't a problem. But will this
duplicating idea work to give me a fresh bootable functioning Windows
et al
with a minimum of trouble?

My thanks in advance for your experience and insight.

calamity carol



































  #6  
Old August 20th 07, 04:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Heirloom[_2_]
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Posts: 72
Default Backing it all up

Well, if you are going that far...........you may as well add having a web
based backup (if you trust it, I don't).
Heirloom, old and don't trust anything

"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
May as well add that an even more perfect solution is to have TWO external
drives dedicated to backup, swapping them every week and storing the
disconnected one offsite. This can either be two complete external drives,
or two drives using one external enclosure (former is easier, latter is
cheaper.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
+1 on Gary's suggestion. I use Acronis, backing up to an internal HD.
My primary is actually a RAID 0, but, I have 5 HD's in this machine. If
one craps out, I can restore to another and replace at my liesure. The
nice part about an external HD is that you can keep it in a safe place
away from your machine....in the event of a theft or fire, etc. Acronis
True Image is a great program, I highly recommend it.
Heirloom, old and do have backups

"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
I should mention that a better solution is to get an external HD, and use
a decent backup program, like Acronis True Image, to make regular images
of your system to the external drive. Then all you have to do if the
drive goes bad is to install a new one and use the bootable CD method to
restore the latest image to the new drive. That way *everything* you've
done on the old drive, up to the date of the latest image, including
tweaks and personal data, is restored to the new drive, bootable and all.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
BootIt NG will do what you want for free. www.bootitng.com. Download
the executable, run it to create a bootable installation floppy or CD,
boot to that (after installing the drive), CANCEL the installation,
then use Partition Work to Copy your C:\ partition to the backup drive.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
Having three C drive failures in just two and a half years requiring
me to
reinstall and re-set up every program I use (which I'm doing now)
makes me
wonder if it's possible to copy/backup my entire new C drive to a
comparable slave for switching out when this new primary master also
goes
belly-up down the road.

I've replaced enough internal hard drives now to know how to switch
them and
their jumper pins so the mechanics aren't a problem. But will this
duplicating idea work to give me a fresh bootable functioning Windows
et al
with a minimum of trouble?

My thanks in advance for your experience and insight.

calamity carol





































  #7  
Old August 20th 07, 06:24 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 2,158
Default Backing it all up

Too slow, too insecure.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
Well, if you are going that far...........you may as well add having a web
based backup (if you trust it, I don't).
Heirloom, old and don't trust anything

"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
May as well add that an even more perfect solution is to have TWO
external drives dedicated to backup, swapping them every week and storing
the disconnected one offsite. This can either be two complete external
drives, or two drives using one external enclosure (former is easier,
latter is cheaper.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
+1 on Gary's suggestion. I use Acronis, backing up to an internal HD.
My primary is actually a RAID 0, but, I have 5 HD's in this machine. If
one craps out, I can restore to another and replace at my liesure. The
nice part about an external HD is that you can keep it in a safe place
away from your machine....in the event of a theft or fire, etc.
Acronis True Image is a great program, I highly recommend it.
Heirloom, old and do have backups

"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
I should mention that a better solution is to get an external HD, and
use a decent backup program, like Acronis True Image, to make regular
images of your system to the external drive. Then all you have to do if
the drive goes bad is to install a new one and use the bootable CD
method to restore the latest image to the new drive. That way
*everything* you've done on the old drive, up to the date of the latest
image, including tweaks and personal data, is restored to the new drive,
bootable and all.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
BootIt NG will do what you want for free. www.bootitng.com. Download
the executable, run it to create a bootable installation floppy or CD,
boot to that (after installing the drive), CANCEL the installation,
then use Partition Work to Copy your C:\ partition to the backup
drive.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
Having three C drive failures in just two and a half years requiring
me to
reinstall and re-set up every program I use (which I'm doing now)
makes me
wonder if it's possible to copy/backup my entire new C drive to a
comparable slave for switching out when this new primary master also
goes
belly-up down the road.

I've replaced enough internal hard drives now to know how to switch
them and
their jumper pins so the mechanics aren't a problem. But will this
duplicating idea work to give me a fresh bootable functioning Windows
et al
with a minimum of trouble?

My thanks in advance for your experience and insight.

calamity carol







































  #8  
Old August 20th 07, 03:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Eric
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Posts: 216
Default Backing it all up


"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
Well, if you are going that far...........you may as well add having a web
based backup (if you trust it, I don't).
Heirloom, old and don't trust anything


Off site is a fine solution.
A company may choose to have an IT user, who has to be trusted with data
access, take home the backup media every night.
For your home backup, if moving a backup physically to an offsite location
daily is not feasible, at least move one to a "fire safe" lockbox.
I'd be concerned about speed and security issues with web based.


  #9  
Old August 20th 07, 04:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Heirloom[_2_]
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Posts: 72
Default Backing it all up

Eric: I'd be concerned about speed and security issues with web based.
Gary: Too slow, too insecure.

My point exactly.......
Heirloom, old and trust is important


"Eric" wrote in message
...

"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
Well, if you are going that far...........you may as well add having a
web based backup (if you trust it, I don't).
Heirloom, old and don't trust anything


Off site is a fine solution.
A company may choose to have an IT user, who has to be trusted with data
access, take home the backup media every night.
For your home backup, if moving a backup physically to an offsite location
daily is not feasible, at least move one to a "fire safe" lockbox.
I'd be concerned about speed and security issues with web based.




  #10  
Old August 20th 07, 04:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Joan Archer
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Posts: 520
Default Backing it all up

Hey I've only just been able to get my first external never mind getting
two g although saying that it would be nice to have another and it would
have been nice to get one with a bigger capacity, it's 80 GB but as it was
a birthday present I can't complain g I use it with Acronis TI 10.
Joan


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
May as well add that an even more perfect solution is to have TWO
external drives dedicated to backup, swapping them every week and
storing the disconnected one offsite. This can either be two complete
external drives, or two drives using one external enclosure (former
is easier, latter is cheaper.)




 




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