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  #21  
Old December 13th 04, 11:13 PM
Robert Griendling
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Latest occurrence today: had Outlook, IE6 (one window) and Word(no docs)
open. Closed Outlook OK. Tried to close Word and I got the message of "not
enough free memory" available. Closed Word using ctrl-alt-delete task
manager. Couldn't get to my desktop thru use of "show desktop" icon in tool
bar. Closed IE6. Still couldn't open MY Computer/performance.

Re-booted.


"Bernard W. Joseph" wrote in message
...
Jeff Richards wrote:
The most common reason for low memory messages is that you are running

out
of space on the hard disk drive. Windows can't create a swap file for
virtual memory, so it complains about not enough memory. Check the free
space on your hard disk.


Windows used to have memory leaks, wherein some applications would not
clear memory after they had terminated, or after they supposedly closed
files. There was a notorious problem associated with a browser that
would get slower and slower with each page becasue it had not freed up
memory after closing the previous page.

The memory loss that started this thread needs more careful diagnosis.
It would be nice to know exactly which, and how many applications are
running when this happens.

Bernard W. Joseph

--
"Vint Cerf is the Father of the Internet, but we're the mothers that
have to make it work."
- Hafner & Lyon, _Where Wizards Stay Up Late_, p265



  #22  
Old December 14th 04, 04:53 AM
Jeff Richards
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Then I believe you are down to specific application issues, which might not
actually be a memory problem at all. In some cases when a procedure can't
be completed for some reason the problem is assumed to be insufficient
memory and is reported as such, but the actual cause might be something
different.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Robert Griendling" wrote in message
...
Nope. I'm letting Windows decide that.



  #23  
Old December 14th 04, 04:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Jeff Richards
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Default memory losses

Then I believe you are down to specific application issues, which might not
actually be a memory problem at all. In some cases when a procedure can't
be completed for some reason the problem is assumed to be insufficient
memory and is reported as such, but the actual cause might be something
different.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Robert Griendling" wrote in message
...
Nope. I'm letting Windows decide that.



  #24  
Old December 14th 04, 04:58 AM
Jeff Richards
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See, for instance:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=224054
You receive a "There is not enough memory or disk space to complete the
operation" error message when you open a file in Word 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=221581
WD2000: Error Saving Document with Subdocuments in Word 6.0/95 Format
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=211326
You receive a "There is insufficient memory or disk space" error messages
when you save a file with low hard disk space in Word 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=291178
You receive an error message or the program stops responding when you try
save a file in Word 2002 and in Word 2003
(Note the other reasons listed for the last two).
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Robert Griendling" wrote in message
...
Latest occurrence today: had Outlook, IE6 (one window) and Word(no docs)
open. Closed Outlook OK. Tried to close Word and I got the message of
"not
enough free memory" available. Closed Word using ctrl-alt-delete task
manager. Couldn't get to my desktop thru use of "show desktop" icon in
tool
bar. Closed IE6. Still couldn't open MY Computer/performance.

Re-booted.


"Bernard W. Joseph" wrote in message
...
Jeff Richards wrote:
The most common reason for low memory messages is that you are running

out
of space on the hard disk drive. Windows can't create a swap file for
virtual memory, so it complains about not enough memory. Check the
free
space on your hard disk.


Windows used to have memory leaks, wherein some applications would not
clear memory after they had terminated, or after they supposedly closed
files. There was a notorious problem associated with a browser that
would get slower and slower with each page becasue it had not freed up
memory after closing the previous page.

The memory loss that started this thread needs more careful diagnosis.
It would be nice to know exactly which, and how many applications are
running when this happens.

Bernard W. Joseph

--
"Vint Cerf is the Father of the Internet, but we're the mothers that
have to make it work."
- Hafner & Lyon, _Where Wizards Stay Up Late_, p265





  #25  
Old December 14th 04, 04:58 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Jeff Richards
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Posts: 1,526
Default memory losses

See, for instance:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=224054
You receive a "There is not enough memory or disk space to complete the
operation" error message when you open a file in Word 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=221581
WD2000: Error Saving Document with Subdocuments in Word 6.0/95 Format
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=211326
You receive a "There is insufficient memory or disk space" error messages
when you save a file with low hard disk space in Word 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=291178
You receive an error message or the program stops responding when you try
save a file in Word 2002 and in Word 2003
(Note the other reasons listed for the last two).
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Robert Griendling" wrote in message
...
Latest occurrence today: had Outlook, IE6 (one window) and Word(no docs)
open. Closed Outlook OK. Tried to close Word and I got the message of
"not
enough free memory" available. Closed Word using ctrl-alt-delete task
manager. Couldn't get to my desktop thru use of "show desktop" icon in
tool
bar. Closed IE6. Still couldn't open MY Computer/performance.

Re-booted.


"Bernard W. Joseph" wrote in message
...
Jeff Richards wrote:
The most common reason for low memory messages is that you are running

out
of space on the hard disk drive. Windows can't create a swap file for
virtual memory, so it complains about not enough memory. Check the
free
space on your hard disk.


Windows used to have memory leaks, wherein some applications would not
clear memory after they had terminated, or after they supposedly closed
files. There was a notorious problem associated with a browser that
would get slower and slower with each page becasue it had not freed up
memory after closing the previous page.

The memory loss that started this thread needs more careful diagnosis.
It would be nice to know exactly which, and how many applications are
running when this happens.

Bernard W. Joseph

--
"Vint Cerf is the Father of the Internet, but we're the mothers that
have to make it work."
- Hafner & Lyon, _Where Wizards Stay Up Late_, p265





  #26  
Old December 14th 04, 03:12 PM
Buffalo
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"Robert Griendling" wrote in message
...
Latest occurrence today: had Outlook, IE6 (one window) and Word(no docs)
open. Closed Outlook OK. Tried to close Word and I got the message of "not
enough free memory" available. Closed Word using ctrl-alt-delete task
manager. Couldn't get to my desktop thru use of "show desktop" icon in tool
bar. Closed IE6. Still couldn't open MY Computer/performance.

Re-booted.

Scan for a virus with an update anti-virus.
Free Online Antivirus scanners:
--------------------------
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http://www.kaspersky.com/remoteviruschk.html
http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/default.asp
http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/activescan.asp

Scan for adware and spyware.
Download,install,update and run:

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Do a ctrl-alt-del to bring up the Close Program box and see if there is
something running that you don't recognize.
Is there one program that is always running when this happens?
If so, it may be that program that is causing the problem.
Perhaps uninstall and reinstall it.



  #27  
Old December 14th 04, 03:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Buffalo
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Default memory losses


"Robert Griendling" wrote in message
...
Latest occurrence today: had Outlook, IE6 (one window) and Word(no docs)
open. Closed Outlook OK. Tried to close Word and I got the message of "not
enough free memory" available. Closed Word using ctrl-alt-delete task
manager. Couldn't get to my desktop thru use of "show desktop" icon in tool
bar. Closed IE6. Still couldn't open MY Computer/performance.

Re-booted.

Scan for a virus with an update anti-virus.
Free Online Antivirus scanners:
--------------------------
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/hous...start_corp.asp
http://www.kaspersky.com/remoteviruschk.html
http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/default.asp
http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/activescan.asp

Scan for adware and spyware.
Download,install,update and run:

AdAware
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/

Spybot Search & Destroy
http://security.kolla.de/

Do a ctrl-alt-del to bring up the Close Program box and see if there is
something running that you don't recognize.
Is there one program that is always running when this happens?
If so, it may be that program that is causing the problem.
Perhaps uninstall and reinstall it.



  #28  
Old December 14th 04, 06:22 PM
SFB - KB3MM
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Isn't 3 % in the range that can generate spurious out of memory messages ?

"Robert Griendling" wrote in message
...
Don't know if I can exactly pinpoint the problem or instances. Just now

it
happened. I had Outlook, and two emails open and IE6. I noticed slow

load
times while browsing and checked My Computer/performance/systems resources
and found only 3% systems resources available. When I closed the two
messages and Outlook I then had about 60%.


"Bernard W. Joseph" wrote in message
...
Jeff Richards wrote:
The most common reason for low memory messages is that you are running

out
of space on the hard disk drive. Windows can't create a swap file for
virtual memory, so it complains about not enough memory. Check the

free
space on your hard disk.


Windows used to have memory leaks, wherein some applications would not
clear memory after they had terminated, or after they supposedly closed
files. There was a notorious problem associated with a browser that
would get slower and slower with each page becasue it had not freed up
memory after closing the previous page.

The memory loss that started this thread needs more careful diagnosis.
It would be nice to know exactly which, and how many applications are
running when this happens.

Bernard W. Joseph

--
"Vint Cerf is the Father of the Internet, but we're the mothers that
have to make it work."
- Hafner & Lyon, _Where Wizards Stay Up Late_, p265




  #29  
Old December 14th 04, 06:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
SFB - KB3MM
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Default memory losses

Isn't 3 % in the range that can generate spurious out of memory messages ?

"Robert Griendling" wrote in message
...
Don't know if I can exactly pinpoint the problem or instances. Just now

it
happened. I had Outlook, and two emails open and IE6. I noticed slow

load
times while browsing and checked My Computer/performance/systems resources
and found only 3% systems resources available. When I closed the two
messages and Outlook I then had about 60%.


"Bernard W. Joseph" wrote in message
...
Jeff Richards wrote:
The most common reason for low memory messages is that you are running

out
of space on the hard disk drive. Windows can't create a swap file for
virtual memory, so it complains about not enough memory. Check the

free
space on your hard disk.


Windows used to have memory leaks, wherein some applications would not
clear memory after they had terminated, or after they supposedly closed
files. There was a notorious problem associated with a browser that
would get slower and slower with each page becasue it had not freed up
memory after closing the previous page.

The memory loss that started this thread needs more careful diagnosis.
It would be nice to know exactly which, and how many applications are
running when this happens.

Bernard W. Joseph

--
"Vint Cerf is the Father of the Internet, but we're the mothers that
have to make it work."
- Hafner & Lyon, _Where Wizards Stay Up Late_, p265




  #30  
Old December 14th 04, 10:59 PM
Robert Griendling
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I did recently get a notice to download a program called View Manager. I
said no but that didn't stop it apparently. It was in my start-up. I
deleted it. We'll see if that works. More he
http://ask-leo.com/viewmgrexe.html


"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
...
Then I believe you are down to specific application issues, which might

not
actually be a memory problem at all. In some cases when a procedure can't
be completed for some reason the problem is assumed to be insufficient
memory and is reported as such, but the actual cause might be something
different.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Robert Griendling" wrote in message
...
Nope. I'm letting Windows decide that.





 




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