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The default Windows settings, unless you experience problems.
-- Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "98 Guy" wrote in message ... 98 Guy wrote: What are the optimal swap and cache settings given a pc with either 256 or 215 mb ram with a Celeron 2.6 Ghz CPU? What about other stuff like himem.sys, emm386 (and it's various settings), smartdrv, buffers=, files=, etc? Correction: 256 or 512 mb ram. |
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"Richard G. Harper" wrote:
The default Windows settings, unless you experience problems. I find it hard to believe that the default settings are the most efficient when you have 256 or 512 mb ram. I say this because when 98 came out, the typical pc had 16mb of ram and 32 or 64 mb of ram was seen as the outer limits. So my perception is that given 10 to 20 times the amount of ram, there must be optimizations that can be made over the default settings. |
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Max performace settings (swap/cache) with 256/512 mb ram?
"Richard G. Harper" wrote:
The default Windows settings, unless you experience problems. I find it hard to believe that the default settings are the most efficient when you have 256 or 512 mb ram. I say this because when 98 came out, the typical pc had 16mb of ram and 32 or 64 mb of ram was seen as the outer limits. So my perception is that given 10 to 20 times the amount of ram, there must be optimizations that can be made over the default settings. |
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98 Guy wrote:
I say this because when 98 came out, the typical pc had 16mb of ram and 32 or 64 mb of ram was seen as the outer limits. So my perception is that given 10 to 20 times the amount of ram, there must be optimizations that can be made over the default settings. For example, if I have 512 mb of ram, why do I want *ANY* swap file? Don't I instead want to increase my vcache size? |
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Max performace settings (swap/cache) with 256/512 mb ram?
98 Guy wrote:
I say this because when 98 came out, the typical pc had 16mb of ram and 32 or 64 mb of ram was seen as the outer limits. So my perception is that given 10 to 20 times the amount of ram, there must be optimizations that can be made over the default settings. For example, if I have 512 mb of ram, why do I want *ANY* swap file? Don't I instead want to increase my vcache size? |
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"98 Guy" wrote in message ... What are the optimal swap and cache settings given a pc with either 256 or 215 mb ram with a Celeron 2.6 Ghz CPU? What about other stuff like himem.sys, emm386 (and it's various settings), smartdrv, buffers=, files=, etc? Optimal performance can usually be had by letting Windows handle it totally. However, here are some easy 'tweaks' that may or may not help. I use them. 1) In your System.ini file put in MaxFileCache= 70% of physical ram under the [vcache] header. ie: 256MB x 70% = 179200 so MaxFileCache=179200 ie: 512MB x 70% = 469763 so MaxFileCache=469763 2)In Virtual Memory (rt clk My Computer, Select Properties, Performance,Virtual Memory) select 'Let me.....' and set a value in the Minimum box around 100-250MB and close out and reboot. (Do not set a maximum value). (Ignore the 'warning message' you get when you first try to OK your way out) When you go back to check it, it should have reverted to 'Let Windows....' with the minimum you picked being shown. 3) Put ConservativeSwapFileUsage=1 under the [386Enh] header in System.ini. (May possibly help while gaming) If you want to try it with and without, just put a ; in front of that line to negate it . Overall, I really haven't seen any 'real' change in performance by doing the above. 4) There is a 'free' program called Cacheman, that lets you experiment with many settings very easily. It also lets you revert back to the Original settings, I believe. I don't believe its claims about 'reclaiming' memory, etc, but it is fun to experiment with it. I would bet that when you are finished playing around, you will probably go back to letting Windows handle it. Overall, more ram may actually help the most. PS: If you install more than 512MB of ram, you should use the MaxFileCache entry with 70% of the total, but not to exceed a maximum number of aprox 512000. The other items you mentioned are not even modified unless you run pure DOS games or pure DOS programs. Windows98 does not need an AutoExec.bat or Config.sys file to run Windows. If you will be running DOS programs, then those settings 'might' have to be 'modified'. Freeing up Conventional Memory may be required for certain DOS programs. Search Google or other search engines for links about running DOS programs on Win98. Things like smartdrv can really speed up programs running from a pure DOS prompt. It does nothing in Windows. More important to improving performance is to limit the number of programs that start up with the initial boot. If you don't need them, disable them from starting up everytime. |
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Max performace settings (swap/cache) with 256/512 mb ram?
"98 Guy" wrote in message ... What are the optimal swap and cache settings given a pc with either 256 or 215 mb ram with a Celeron 2.6 Ghz CPU? What about other stuff like himem.sys, emm386 (and it's various settings), smartdrv, buffers=, files=, etc? Optimal performance can usually be had by letting Windows handle it totally. However, here are some easy 'tweaks' that may or may not help. I use them. 1) In your System.ini file put in MaxFileCache= 70% of physical ram under the [vcache] header. ie: 256MB x 70% = 179200 so MaxFileCache=179200 ie: 512MB x 70% = 469763 so MaxFileCache=469763 2)In Virtual Memory (rt clk My Computer, Select Properties, Performance,Virtual Memory) select 'Let me.....' and set a value in the Minimum box around 100-250MB and close out and reboot. (Do not set a maximum value). (Ignore the 'warning message' you get when you first try to OK your way out) When you go back to check it, it should have reverted to 'Let Windows....' with the minimum you picked being shown. 3) Put ConservativeSwapFileUsage=1 under the [386Enh] header in System.ini. (May possibly help while gaming) If you want to try it with and without, just put a ; in front of that line to negate it . Overall, I really haven't seen any 'real' change in performance by doing the above. 4) There is a 'free' program called Cacheman, that lets you experiment with many settings very easily. It also lets you revert back to the Original settings, I believe. I don't believe its claims about 'reclaiming' memory, etc, but it is fun to experiment with it. I would bet that when you are finished playing around, you will probably go back to letting Windows handle it. Overall, more ram may actually help the most. PS: If you install more than 512MB of ram, you should use the MaxFileCache entry with 70% of the total, but not to exceed a maximum number of aprox 512000. The other items you mentioned are not even modified unless you run pure DOS games or pure DOS programs. Windows98 does not need an AutoExec.bat or Config.sys file to run Windows. If you will be running DOS programs, then those settings 'might' have to be 'modified'. Freeing up Conventional Memory may be required for certain DOS programs. Search Google or other search engines for links about running DOS programs on Win98. Things like smartdrv can really speed up programs running from a pure DOS prompt. It does nothing in Windows. More important to improving performance is to limit the number of programs that start up with the initial boot. If you don't need them, disable them from starting up everytime. |
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Because Windows is a VM system. Very dynamic.
"98 Guy" wrote in message ... 98 Guy wrote: I say this because when 98 came out, the typical pc had 16mb of ram and 32 or 64 mb of ram was seen as the outer limits. So my perception is that given 10 to 20 times the amount of ram, there must be optimizations that can be made over the default settings. For example, if I have 512 mb of ram, why do I want *ANY* swap file? Don't I instead want to increase my vcache size? |
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Max performace settings (swap/cache) with 256/512 mb ram?
Because Windows is a VM system. Very dynamic.
"98 Guy" wrote in message ... 98 Guy wrote: I say this because when 98 came out, the typical pc had 16mb of ram and 32 or 64 mb of ram was seen as the outer limits. So my perception is that given 10 to 20 times the amount of ram, there must be optimizations that can be made over the default settings. For example, if I have 512 mb of ram, why do I want *ANY* swap file? Don't I instead want to increase my vcache size? |
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Max performace settings (swap/cache) with 256/512 mb ram?
"98 Guy" wrote in message ... "Richard G. Harper" wrote: The default Windows settings, unless you experience problems. I find it hard to believe that the default settings are the most efficient when you have 256 or 512 mb ram. I say this because when 98 came out, the typical pc had 16mb of ram and 32 or 64 mb of ram was seen as the outer limits. So my perception is that given 10 to 20 times the amount of ram, there must be optimizations that can be made over the default settings. Here are some very informative and useful links: These are from a post by Jim Eschelman: " I have a series of optimization articles that might be a good start. May I recommend these? Computer Health http://aumha.org/win4/a/health.htm Win98 & Win ME Memory Management http://aumha.org/win4/a/memmgmt.htm Startup Program Loading http://aumha.org/win4/a/loads.htm Partition Planning http://aumha.org/win4/a/parts.htm Do You Have Parasites? http://aumha.org/a/noads.htm System Resources FAQ http://aumha.org/win4/a/resource.htm -- Jim Eshelman MS-MVP, Windows Shell/User http://aumha.org/ http://WinSupportCenter.com/ " I hope these links help clear things up for you. Buffalo |
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