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with oem 98 can not get a windows 98se upgrade disk and do an upgrade at all
Boy windows is really complicated that's a rant from a Mac person
where live is much easier! Ok for give me PC people. I got a Compaq computer with what I assume was a windows 98 OEM disk the book has Compaq printed on it but looks like other windows manuals other than that and does not have OEM in its product key. I have a valid windows 98 CD and product key. When I put it in and try to in stall (upgrade over the current 98 OS) it tells me I can't. Does this mean that I can not get a windows 98se upgrade disk and do an upgrade at all. I have been having so much trouble doing a clean install when it comes to getting the drivers for some stuff the new modem in particular to work. My old modem was on com 2 this one wants to go on com 3 and the ISP dialer can not find it. As a side question is there a way to force the modem to use com 2? |
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with oem 98 can not get a windows 98se upgrade disk and do an upgrade at all
"DJW" wrote:
Boy windows is really complicated that's a rant from a Mac person where live is much easier! Ok for give me PC people. I got a Compaq computer with what I assume was a windows 98 OEM disk the book has Compaq printed on it but looks like other windows manuals other than that and does not have OEM in its product key. I have a valid windows 98 CD and product key. When I put it in and try to in stall (upgrade over the current 98 OS) it tells me I can't. Does this mean that I can not get a windows 98se upgrade disk and do an upgrade at all. I have been having so much trouble doing a clean install when it comes to getting the drivers for some stuff the new modem in particular to work. My old modem was on com 2 this one wants to go on com 3 and the ISP dialer can not find it. As a side question is there a way to force the modem to use com 2? If your Windows 98 CD is an OEM version then it cannot be installed as an upgrade over an existing installed version of Windows. OEM versions are intended for sale bundled with new computers, and new computers do not have a previous version of Windows installed on them. In order to do an upgrade you need a Retail version (Upgrade or Full Install) of Windows 98. Product Keys for OEM versions do not include the letters OEM anywhere within the key itself. When Windows is install a 20 character Product I.D. code is generated, based in part on the Product Key and also on the CD, and for an OEM version this Product I.D. will include the letters OEM. But not the 25 character Product Key that is entered during the installation. If your Windows 98 CD has the words "for sale or distribution only with a new computer" or similar on it, or if it has the name and logo of a computer manufacturer/assembler (e.g. Compaq) on it, then it is an OEM version. Hope this explains the situation. Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca Syberfix Remote Computer Repair "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito." |
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with oem 98 can not get a windows 98se upgrade disk and do an upgrade at all
"DJW" wrote in message
oups.com... Boy windows is really complicated that's a rant from a Mac person where live is much easier! Ok for give me PC people. I got a Compaq computer with what I assume was a windows 98 OEM disk the book has Compaq printed on it but looks like other windows manuals other than that and does not have OEM in its product key. I have a valid windows 98 CD and product key. When I put it in and try to in stall (upgrade over the current 98 OS) it tells me I can't. Does this mean that I can not get a windows 98se upgrade disk and do an upgrade at all. No -- i.e. you ought to be able to upgrade to Win98SE. The upgrade disks I have seen all required Windows to be loaded in the first place (i.e. did not run under DOS). Your other difficulties should not prevent an upgrade. (If you lack USB jacks, we might wonder why you want to upgrade . . .) -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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with oem 98 can not get a windows 98se upgrade disk and do an upgrade at all
"DJW" wrote in message oups.com... Boy windows is really complicated that's a rant from a Mac person where live is much easier! Ok for give me PC people. I got a Compaq computer with what I assume was a windows 98 OEM disk the book has Compaq printed on it but looks like other windows manuals other than that and does not have OEM in its product key. I have a valid windows 98 CD and product key. When I put it in and try to in stall (upgrade over the current 98 OS) it tells me I can't. You can probably upgrade your system by using a cd support boot disk then in the windows folder rename win.com to win.old then run setup from the CD and pay careful attention be sure to install windows back in the original windows folder (usually C:\windows) as you will probably get asked if you want to install in C:\windows.000 |
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with oem 98 can not get a windows 98se upgrade disk and do an upgrade at all
The disk you describe as a valid 98 CD is probably an OEM disk. You can try
tricking it into doing an upgrade using the procedures he http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/upgrade.html -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "DJW" wrote in message oups.com... Boy windows is really complicated that's a rant from a Mac person where live is much easier! Ok for give me PC people. I got a Compaq computer with what I assume was a windows 98 OEM disk the book has Compaq printed on it but looks like other windows manuals other than that and does not have OEM in its product key. I have a valid windows 98 CD and product key. When I put it in and try to in stall (upgrade over the current 98 OS) it tells me I can't. Does this mean that I can not get a windows 98se upgrade disk and do an upgrade at all. I have been having so much trouble doing a clean install when it comes to getting the drivers for some stuff the new modem in particular to work. My old modem was on com 2 this one wants to go on com 3 and the ISP dialer can not find it. As a side question is there a way to force the modem to use com 2? |
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with oem 98 can not get a windows 98se upgrade disk and do an upgrade at all
The problem is not your modem or its use of COM3. It's a problem in your
dialer, and probably one that can be fixed by changing the dialer's settings. If you would answer the questions I asked in your other post on this subject, we might have a better idea what to suggest as a fix. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.org/articles/cleanboot.htm http://grystmill.org/articles/security.htm "DJW" wrote in message oups.com... Boy windows is really complicated that's a rant from a Mac person where live is much easier! Ok for give me PC people. I got a Compaq computer with what I assume was a windows 98 OEM disk the book has Compaq printed on it but looks like other windows manuals other than that and does not have OEM in its product key. I have a valid windows 98 CD and product key. When I put it in and try to in stall (upgrade over the current 98 OS) it tells me I can't. Does this mean that I can not get a windows 98se upgrade disk and do an upgrade at all. I have been having so much trouble doing a clean install when it comes to getting the drivers for some stuff the new modem in particular to work. My old modem was on com 2 this one wants to go on com 3 and the ISP dialer can not find it. As a side question is there a way to force the modem to use com 2? |
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with oem 98 can not get a windows 98se upgrade disk and do an upgrade at all
It has 25 product key caracters but no OEM in it. When I put in a
windows 98 full version it says something like can not upgrage from this version already installed. Can a full version disk not also upgrade as an upgrade cd can? On the CD it looks like a regulare win cd but has Compaq writen on it. thank you DJW Ron Martell wrote: "DJW" wrote: Boy windows is really complicated that's a rant from a Mac person where live is much easier! Ok for give me PC people. I got a Compaq computer with what I assume was a windows 98 OEM disk the book has Compaq printed on it but looks like other windows manuals other than that and does not have OEM in its product key. I have a valid windows 98 CD and product key. When I put it in and try to in stall (upgrade over the current 98 OS) it tells me I can't. Does this mean that I can not get a windows 98se upgrade disk and do an upgrade at all. I have been having so much trouble doing a clean install when it comes to getting the drivers for some stuff the new modem in particular to work. My old modem was on com 2 this one wants to go on com 3 and the ISP dialer can not find it. As a side question is there a way to force the modem to use com 2? If your Windows 98 CD is an OEM version then it cannot be installed as an upgrade over an existing installed version of Windows. OEM versions are intended for sale bundled with new computers, and new computers do not have a previous version of Windows installed on them. In order to do an upgrade you need a Retail version (Upgrade or Full Install) of Windows 98. Product Keys for OEM versions do not include the letters OEM anywhere within the key itself. When Windows is install a 20 character Product I.D. code is generated, based in part on the Product Key and also on the CD, and for an OEM version this Product I.D. will include the letters OEM. But not the 25 character Product Key that is entered during the installation. If your Windows 98 CD has the words "for sale or distribution only with a new computer" or similar on it, or if it has the name and logo of a computer manufacturer/assembler (e.g. Compaq) on it, then it is an OEM version. Hope this explains the situation. Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca Syberfix Remote Computer Repair "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito." |
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with oem 98 can not get a windows 98se upgrade disk and do an upgrade at all
"DJW" wrote:
It has 25 product key caracters but no OEM in it. When I put in a windows 98 full version it says something like can not upgrage from this version already installed. Can a full version disk not also upgrade as an upgrade cd can? On the CD it looks like a regulare win cd but has Compaq writen on it. thank you DJW If the CD has Compaq on it then it is without a doubt an OEM CD. Period. Microsoft does not license computer companies to produce retail versions of Windows with their own brand names on them. OEM versions are intended for use on new computers and as new computers do not have older versions of Windows already installed on them there is no need for the OEM versions to have upgrade capabilities and therefore the upgrade functions have been disabled in these versions. You might check Ron Badour's web site. He has information there about a method that might allow you to do an upgrade install with an OEM CD. It did work with Windows 95 but in my experience it does not work with most OEM versions of Windows 98. http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/upgrade.html Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca Syberfix Remote Computer Repair "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito." |
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with oem 98 can not get a windows 98se upgrade disk and do an upgrade at all
Product keys do not contain OEM--the Product ID does. I have never had a
problem using the procedure I recommended and I have done it numerous times. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "DJW" wrote in message oups.com... It has 25 product key caracters but no OEM in it. When I put in a windows 98 full version it says something like can not upgrage from this version already installed. Can a full version disk not also upgrade as an upgrade cd can? On the CD it looks like a regulare win cd but has Compaq writen on it. thank you DJW Ron Martell wrote: "DJW" wrote: Boy windows is really complicated that's a rant from a Mac person where live is much easier! Ok for give me PC people. I got a Compaq computer with what I assume was a windows 98 OEM disk the book has Compaq printed on it but looks like other windows manuals other than that and does not have OEM in its product key. I have a valid windows 98 CD and product key. When I put it in and try to in stall (upgrade over the current 98 OS) it tells me I can't. Does this mean that I can not get a windows 98se upgrade disk and do an upgrade at all. I have been having so much trouble doing a clean install when it comes to getting the drivers for some stuff the new modem in particular to work. My old modem was on com 2 this one wants to go on com 3 and the ISP dialer can not find it. As a side question is there a way to force the modem to use com 2? If your Windows 98 CD is an OEM version then it cannot be installed as an upgrade over an existing installed version of Windows. OEM versions are intended for sale bundled with new computers, and new computers do not have a previous version of Windows installed on them. In order to do an upgrade you need a Retail version (Upgrade or Full Install) of Windows 98. Product Keys for OEM versions do not include the letters OEM anywhere within the key itself. When Windows is install a 20 character Product I.D. code is generated, based in part on the Product Key and also on the CD, and for an OEM version this Product I.D. will include the letters OEM. But not the 25 character Product Key that is entered during the installation. If your Windows 98 CD has the words "for sale or distribution only with a new computer" or similar on it, or if it has the name and logo of a computer manufacturer/assembler (e.g. Compaq) on it, then it is an OEM version. Hope this explains the situation. Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca Syberfix Remote Computer Repair "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito." |
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