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winfile was: Why do you still use Windows XP?
Harry Vaderchi wrote:
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:41:45 -0000, Bill in Co wrote: J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: [re winfile] http://www.brydon.net/winfile/ Ah, sorry. No, my fault for not being clear. Even if you find it, be careful, as it is NOT long filename aware, and can (will) destroy those longfilenames, since it is NOT longfilename aware (IF you use it to "work on" the files ("work on" meaning more than just displaying them). But I have to admit in some ways, File Manager seemed better (had some additional features over Windows Explorer). Did you look at the link I posted? It claims to be updated version that *is* LFN aware. -- [dash dash space newline 4line sig] Albi CNU No, didn't look, and I was thinking of the original version - sorry. But last night I did come across the NT version from the MDGx web page http://www.mdgx.com/ which seems to work fine with XP, which is related to the one you mention above. |
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Why do you still use Windows XP?
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Lostgallifreyan wrote: "BillW50" wrote in : Oh really? I loaded lots of crap at boot with Windows 98. And what is the deal with no AV? As I totally believe for total protection all you need is a stealth firewall (a router works too) and a real time AV scanner. I agree about the firewall, but no AV here. Instead, I use the firewall to catch anything trying to get online. The only other thing a virus might profit from is nuking its host, so I watch the boot sector and keep backups of it (and entire OS partition images). AV sounds useful, but there are many false positives, especially when 'heuristics' are used. Looking for specific signatures is a bit like a doctor taking a blood sample, finding sickle cell anemia, 'deducing' that the pateint is likely black and therefore a thief! Harsh, but the analogy is fair in principle if not in degree (and plenty of innocent program writers will agree, as all it takes is ONE major false positive published as if it were a certainty, to seriously harm their reputations). At least with a good anti- trojan, we catch the thief by his actions. I have used lots of AV over the past 15 years or so. And I only use Avast today because it is very good about not flagging false positives. IDK, maybe flagging like one per two years or so. Which is near perfect in my book. Almost never do I pick up a virus or a trojan. But once in a blue moon I do. Last time was on February 7th of this year. I pick them up so rare, that it was a bit of a shock. And this one was a trojan and it had a plan to infect the system on reboot. And I reboot like once every two weeks or so (so I don't know where I picked it up at). And when I rebooted on the 7th, Avast loads first and when the trojan tried to install, Avast caught it and nuked it. I dunno about people running without an AV. As I have been running Windows since '93 and I have never been infected yet (and I have over a dozen computers here). Although at least twice during this time, I would have been infected without an AV. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3 |
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Why do you still use Windows XP?
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98 Guy wrote: BillW50 wrote: People say using IE6 is bad at rendering nowadays. It is. IE6 has been a horror show for the past 4 or 5 years. Heck that is nothing compared to how bad pages look under FF2. You need to do more homework. IE6 is universally recognized as a highly non-compliant browser. Macro$haft designed it that way on purpose - to twist web-conventions to suit their own needs and plans at the time. I have no problem with non-compliant browsers. As I believe in freedom. And compliances are for dictators and commies. And I am all for people trying to find better ways to do something. Sometimes they work and sometimes they don't. And I still have machines with both FF2 and IE6 on them. And I can tell you that IE6 still today renders webpages far better than FF2 does. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3 |
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Why do you still use Windows XP?
On 3/13/2012 3:48 AM (Los Angeles/L.A.'s time zone), BillW50 typed:
People say using IE6 is bad at rendering nowadays. It is. IE6 has been a horror show for the past 4 or 5 years. And outdated. -- "... The press can hold its magnifying glass up to our problems, bringing them into focus, illuminating issues heretofore unseen. Or they can use that magnifying glass to light ants on fire, and then perhaps host a week of shows on the sudden, unexpected, dangerous flaming ant epidemic. If we amplify everything, we hear nothing..." --Jon Stewart from Rally to Restore Sanity on 10/30/2010. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. |
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Ant wrote: On 3/13/2012 3:48 AM (Los Angeles/L.A.'s time zone), BillW50 typed: People say using IE6 is bad at rendering nowadays. It is. IE6 has been a horror show for the past 4 or 5 years. And outdated. So? Some claim old people are outdated too. And who was that democratic politician again who said something like people over 60 have outlived their usefulness to society and should get out of the way and die? -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3 |
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Why do you still use Windows XP?
"BillW50" wrote in :
So? Some claim old people are outdated too. And who was that democratic politician again who said something like people over 60 have outlived their usefulness to society and should get out of the way and die? He was an idiot. All there is to know. People should be free to make their own mistakes, but being free to make the worst mistakes of the past is a liberty they should not be easily granted. If young people actually DO learn from the past, and manage to avoid a third world war caused by repeating dangerous and stupid mistakes from the past, they might value the old for the protection, which extends well beyond childhood care. As for the rebels, I know from my OWN rebellions that there is nothing in rebellion if you act like there is nothing to rebel against. (Even law breakers have to know and respect the law, to beeak it in any meaningful way). There is no problem disagreeing with the past, but the fastest way to outlive usefulness is to act like none of it matters. It is also the best way to get REALLY scared of growing old! About that AV thing, I guess I got used to Ghost, and changing the OS for a previous clean copy at need. I used to use and like AV (early Kaspersky), but I found preparing clean sources for recovery easier than keeping virus signatures up to date. That's because once I have local sources, in clean backups, I don't have to think about them regularly. |
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Why do you still use Windows XP?
Per BillW50:
So? Some claim old people are outdated too. And who was that democratic politician again who said something like people over 60 have outlived their usefulness to society and should get out of the way and die? Wasn't that part of the back story in Stanley Kubrick's "Clockwork Orange" movie? -- Pete Cresswell |
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Why do you still use Windows XP?
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Lostgallifreyan wrote: "BillW50" wrote in : So? Some claim old people are outdated too. And who was that democratic politician again who said something like people over 60 have outlived their usefulness to society and should get out of the way and die? He was an idiot. All there is to know. People should be free to make their own mistakes, but being free to make the worst mistakes of the past is a liberty they should not be easily granted. If young people actually DO learn from the past, and manage to avoid a third world war caused by repeating dangerous and stupid mistakes from the past, they might value the old for the protection, which extends well beyond childhood care. As for the rebels, I know from my OWN rebellions that there is nothing in rebellion if you act like there is nothing to rebel against. (Even law breakers have to know and respect the law, to beeak it in any meaningful way). There is no problem disagreeing with the past, but the fastest way to outlive usefulness is to act like none of it matters. It is also the best way to get REALLY scared of growing old! Yes indeed. About that AV thing, I guess I got used to Ghost, and changing the OS for a previous clean copy at need. I used to use and like AV (early Kaspersky), but I found preparing clean sources for recovery easier than keeping virus signatures up to date. That's because once I have local sources, in clean backups, I don't have to think about them regularly. Well... I dunno. I do both. Restoring from clean backups takes time for one. And some malware doesn't give you any signs that your computer is even infected. So without an AV, you wouldn't really know if you were infected or not. One idea I really like is Windows Embedded. There are other software that does something similar. But what basically happens is that all writes are redirected to somewhere else (like to RAM or to another drive). So nothing on your boot/system drive is changed at all. Windows thinks it is writing there and things are written and re-read with the updated information, although... When you power off (you don't even have to do a proper shutdown either). And when you boot up later, none of the changes stuck and you are back to day 1 all over again. So any updates, malware, or whatever are totally gone. To me, if you are not going to run an AV, this is the real way to go. I don't know of anything like this for Windows 9x though. As Windows Embedded I think is XP only version. Windows SteadyState works only with XP and Vista (and slows your computer down I heard), but also restores your computer back to day 1. And keeping virus signatures up-to-date is very easy nowadays. As they happen all in the background and all you need to do is to turn the computer on and the rest is taken care of. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3 |
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Why do you still use Windows XP?
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(PeteCresswell) wrote: Per BillW50: So? Some claim old people are outdated too. And who was that democratic politician again who said something like people over 60 have outlived their usefulness to society and should get out of the way and die? Wasn't that part of the back story in Stanley Kubrick's "Clockwork Orange" movie? Could have been, I haven't seen that one in ages. But this guy was on national TV saying this stuff just about 4 years ago. It doesn't surprise me that a few would feel this way. But what does surprise me is actually saying something like this publicly. I seem to recall it was either during those National Healthcare discussions or during the 2008 campaign. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3 |
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Why do you still use Windows XP?
"BillW50" wrote in :
One idea I really like is Windows Embedded. There are other software that does something similar. But what basically happens is that all writes are redirected to somewhere else (like to RAM or to another drive). So nothing on your boot/system drive is changed at all. Windows thinks it is writing there and things are written and re-read with the updated information, although... I like that idea. In many ways my methods aim in that general direction. Prgrams on their own partition, Ghost images, etc. RAM disk in large memory, with W98 swap file on it. To many that just sounds insane, but it removes two problems, disk thrashing with associated poor performance, and OS tweaks aimed at getting round this in ways that the OS isn't fully designed to handle. This way it thinks everything is normal, optimsed as it expects, and it still gets as much RAM as it ever needs. And it's easy to do. When you power off (you don't even have to do a proper shutdown either). And when you boot up later, none of the changes stuck and you are back to day 1 all over again. So any updates, malware, or whatever are totally gone. To me, if you are not going to run an AV, this is the real way to go. Indeed. I have a registry lock that works that way. I set it up so I have to hold ESC at the right moment at boot if I want anything to stick there beyond the previous session. Doesn't take care of files, but Ghost does. I used a small PDA that has its OS in firmware, that works pretty much like you described. I think WIndows Mobile and the embedded thing have the same root and methods. I never pushed my methods to fill firmware base, mainly because I'm running on hard disks, RAM, and there was no reason to push that far. I have been working (last year anyway) on X98, a very tiny W98 with the smallest registry on record, possibly. That could be firmware based. I think Lite PC did some work on that too, I heard they'd got some very small W98 systems on some embedded devices. Main reason I worked on mine was I knew I couldn't afford theirs! I don't know of anything like this for Windows 9x though. As Windows Embedded I think is XP only version. Windows SteadyState works only with XP and Vista (and slows your computer down I heard), but also restores your computer back to day 1. Ah. As above... Those examples, mine, and the small private builds based on 98-Lite, are the only ones I know of, bar a few 'rescue disk' type installs a few people have done. X98 Core is a Ghost file 5.87 MB big, it restores and boots so fast that even on a desktop machine with hard disks it boots like DOS 6! Not quite as instant as pushing the button on a Dell X50V, but even so, it is comparable to the time those need to do a hard reset. Faster actually.. And keeping virus signatures up-to-date is very easy nowadays. As they happen all in the background and all you need to do is to turn the computer on and the rest is taken care of. That's maybe why I didn't like it. I guess I'm not that trusting. I mean, open the door that readily, at the wrong time, and things might be very bad. I have no specific mechanism in mind, I just know that my judgement isn't always good. So I figure that if I have to make moves that maintain my judgement, I might as well do them based on my own methods. If I make a habit of those, they might better see me through on habit alone. Same logic used to train people so they do the right thing even when they can barely think. |
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