How can I get rid of 'Ramdrive' on startup disk?

I just remembered the program that does that. Memmaker. So it definately
wasn't that. No way that gets run in ME!

No har, nuh huh!


Shane

Shane wrote:
I just realised it's been altered again. Just for the moment I forget
which prog does that. It's changed %TMPDRV% to it's full value.

Line 10 should read:

CALL C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\FINDTEMP.BAT %TMPDRV%

There are certain parts of M$ Operating Systems that really pig me
off!

Shane




Shane wrote:
If interested, my current ME DOS Hack mode Autoexec.bat

snip

@ECHO OFF
CLS
IF "%CDRAMRUN%"=="1" GOTO LOOP

ATTRIB -H -S -A C:\WINDOWS\WIN386.SWP
ECHO.C:\WINDOWS\WIN386.SWP
PATH C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND
SET COMSPEC=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND.COM
SET TMPDRV=C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
CALL C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\FINDTEMP.BAT C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R
S T U V W X Y Z
SET TMP=%TEMP%
SET DIRCMD=/O:GEN/A/P
SET COPYCMD=/Y
SET GERTCHA=C:

IF "%CONFIG%"=="WME" SET GERTCHA=WIN
IF "%CONFIG%"=="SAFE" SET GERTCHA=WIN /D:M

IF "%CONFIG%"=="SAFE" GOTO QUICK
IF "%CONFIG%"=="MIN" GOTO QUICK

SET
PROMPT=[MS-DOS
8.00] $p$g SET
WINPMT=[WIN ME]
$p$g
IF "%CONFIG%"=="WME" GOTO QUICK
LH DOSKEY
DOSKEY /INSERT
LH ANSI.COM
SET MOUSE=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND
LH MOUSE.EXE /Q
LH SMARTDRV /X

IF "%CONFIG%"=="CMD" GOTO QUICK

SET COUNT=C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
SET CDRAMRUN=1
CALL AUTOEXEC.BAT %COUNT%
GOTO END

LOOP
SET COUNT=%1
IF NOT EXIST %COUNT%:\NUL SET CDROM=%COUNT%
IF "%COUNT%"=="%CDROM%" GOTO VARS_SET

SHIFT
GOTO LOOP

VARS_SET
SET RAMD=%0
SET PATH=%RAMD%:\;%PATH%
LH MSCDEX /D:MSCD001 /L:%CDROM%
SET CDRAMRUN=
SET COUNT=

QUICK
MODE CON CODEPAGE PREPARE=((850) C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\EGA.CPI)
MODE CON CODEPAGE SELECT=850
C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\EBD\KEYB UK,,C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\KEYBOARD.SYS
IF "%CONFIG%"=="CDR" CALL AV_SCAN
CLS
IF "%GERTCHA%"=="C:" GOTO ENDWAIT
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo Starting the day after any day now.....

ENDWAIT
%GERTCHA%

END


/snip


Shane









Shane wrote:
Since the first Babe I had the hots for had those initials, she's
who I think of when I see them. Talk about gazongas!

But I take it you mean Joe Dolce. :-) I mean John Doe!

Not much point, Harry, if you don't want Real Mode DOS unhidden on
your ME system. Same re generally learning DOS, which I suppose is
the other implication. Like all scripting languages it takes time
and experimentation to learn. Personally I, in almost every case,
have to experience it to learn it. To understand it's context. Odds
are if you've got this far without learning enough about DOS to
understand what I said, say within the same ballpark I said it in
(?), it means you have no need for it. So learning it would be a
complete and utter waste of time. Well, unless you've got it to
waste :-) But having an 'instructor' to oversee your attempts for
several
weeks or months, well, I guess that's a paid-for service! Otherwise
you get a basic introduction then experiment on your own until you
get it. Only you can destroy your system from DOS in a way you
can't from Windows, System-File-Protection-no-longer-running-wise!

So, what exactly are you asking, Harry? I can't e-mail you the DOS
hack setup because you have different settings. You have to run the
hack yourself. I could then supply you with an MS-DOS 8.00 OS to use
with it (especially since the US settings are the default ones, so
you simply remove reference to display, country and keyboard to get
them). But is there any point?


Shane


webster72n wrote:
You are dealing with *Internenet Calculus* here, Shane.
Is there a way to make this plausible to an *average *J.D*?
Surely sounds mighty interesting to me.

Harry.


"Shane" wrote in message
...
Hi Jack!

Apologies if incomprehensible.

My DOS Hack mode config.sys for Win ME (way below). I also have
one for XP and 98SE. I used to have a single set that determined
which OS was running, but can't be bothered anymore and just have one
for each OS these days (you know, multiboot scenario, sharing
%TEMP% and poss. pagefile.sys).

In the autoexec.bat if the CDROM/RAMDrive option is selected, my
batch for determining which drive is which, runs. I used to have a
%CONFIG% for RAMDrive alone, one for CDROM alone and one where
both get installed - in short one for every possible contingency,
but have quit playing. Similarly I wrote a batch for determining where
%TEMP% was, ie which drive, which OS; it still gets called but is
largely REMed out, and a batch for locating the swap file (then
overwriting it with an ECHO.filler%SWAP% -type command) but went
back to default.

A Safe Mode configuration is necessary of course because the hack
disables the F5/F8 means of booting to it.

I have long since built self-extractors to automatically install
the DOS hack-plus-config files - though only for UK copies of ME
(I even did an inno setup version a year ago but don't know if I
still have that).

The .exe installs a menu group with one-click return-to-default
(since bootup takes longer with Real Mode installed), basically
toggling Real Mode with a boot in between.

And there's an option to simply restore all original files. Chris
Quirke expressed concern about the computer crashing while IO.SYS
was being overwrit, but nothing remotely like that has ever
happened to me; I've never had a single issue with the Real Mode
DOS hack, but don't see a problem in Chris's scenario. If Windows
won't boot because it crashed while IO.SYS was being overwrit,
boot with the EBD and run SYS C: and the original files can be
restored at the same time if desired by typing BOOTBACK and
hitting Enter. The boot scans/backups option was expanded but as
I use it today is
pretty minimal. As a hangover from a previous version it still
backs up every .ini and .sys, for example, in %windir%,
%windir%\System or %windir%\System32, but it's really meant for
backing up the DOS side of the machine - presuming that in DOS one
is likely to edit .bats and the like - so all ascii files in C:
and %windir%\command plus boot files. Makebaks.bat zips these
using PKZip for DOS or the Winzip Command Line add-on (in Windows
and where installed) and stores up to seven copies on a seperate
drive. In the Command dir it saves a copy of the current backup
and of the previous one, uncompressed, so you edit a major .bat
then realise you made a big mistake, there are plenty of copies to
revert to. Now, there's another thing. Chris is leary about
DOSShell truncating LFNs, yet I don't see that happening. Type DS
and DOSShell starts (along with Smartdrv if not already running,
likewise Mouse. Though not Mouse if USB, of course). I do not see
it truncating LFNs. If you make a new partition then boot with an
EBD and SYS it, you
can then run this self-extractor on it and thereafter use it as an
MS-DOS 8.00 system without ever installing Windows.

For anyone interested, the majority if not all Upgrade copies of a
9x OS not meant to be installed on a clean partition, can be if
you create a folder on it called Windows and place in that a file
called WIN.COM. A text file will do. All it looks for is the
existence of a file of that name. Similarly to make such a drive
bootable just copy the relevent files over then run SYS C: (or SYS
A: C: prior to Win ME). Without a C:\Command.com, C:\IO.SYS etc,
SYS C: won't run. With them it will and you have basically a
bootable empty hard drive. When you use the start menu shortcuts
(or Start/Run - for instance
*MFD* installs Real Mode) if Real Mode is already installed and
you run MFD, it copies the boot files over the master copies, iow
you can edit the copies in the root and replace the masters too,
rather than have the new versions overwritten by the old ones the
next time you toggle modes.

The boot scan is what an AV (usually) does automatically in 95/98
but won't even install in ME even if it has been hacked. The same
files are scanned along with memory and mft etc, only (apart from
also running the AVG version if I have it installed, but whose
command line version I don't consider good enough to bother with
if it's not) it runs Kaspersky, Trend, McAfee, Norton and F-Prot
scanners, one after another. Though obviously they have to be
updated.

I used to have a CD that installed first DR-DOS 7.03, then MS-DOS
6.22, then WFWG 3.11 and a load of utilities and configuration.
You just needed a DR-DOS EBD to boot with initially. But I
ditched it as part of the need to ditch non-LFN aware OSes. I kind of
wish I
still had that, but that is exactly why I had to throw it!

snip

DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS
DOS=HIGH,UMB

[MENU]
MENUITEM=WME,Windows
MENUITEM=SAFE,Safe Mode
MENUITEM=CMD,Command Prompt
MENUITEM=MIN,Command Prompt, Minimal Boot
MENUITEM=CDR,Command Prompt, Boot Scans, Backups, CDROM support
and RAMDrive MENUDEFAULT=WME,2
MENUCOLOR=15,1

[WME]

[SAFE]

[CMD]

[MIN]

[CDR]
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\EBD\OAKCDROM.SYS /D:MSCD001
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\RAMDRIVE.SYS /E 20480

[COMMON]
BUFFERS=10
FILES=40
BREAK=ON
COUNTRY=044,,C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\COUNTRY.SYS
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\EBD\DISPLAY.SYS CON=(EGA,,1)
SHELL=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND.COM /E:2048 /F /P
stacks=9,256

/snip


Shane

Jack E Martinelli wrote:
"Make one of those Keen DOS Startup Menus"
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article02-054


"Kevin J. Nielsen" wrote in message
...
Whoops, I cancelled that message; I guess not fast enough.
Sorry. The reason I didnt ask how to create a boot disk with CD
support is that I like the menu in the WinMe boot disk. I would
like to at least have 1) boot with CD support, and 2) minimal
boot. I know how to make a boot disk with CD support but I dont
know how to make a menu.

Another thing that would be even better and I wouldnt have
to throw away a potentially useful tool is if I could add a menu
item to the Windows Millennium boot disk: 5) boot with CD and
no ramdrive.

Anyway, I am sorry if I offended anyone; I will try to think
more carefully next time before I make a post.

Thank you Plonk for your help.

Keven

SNIP

Are we having fun or what, Shane?
You were right in the first place: if I've gotten this far without it,
there's no need for scripting and we'd better leave it that way, even
tough I find it mighty interesting.
Too many other things take preference over it anyway and, if I had a choice,
I'd rather be an artist (painter).
Should I ever need anything done in this field, my eyes would be on you, can
I count on that?

Harry.


"Shane" wrote in message
...
I just remembered the program that does that. Memmaker. So it definately
wasn't that. No way that gets run in ME!

No har, nuh huh!


Shane

Shane wrote:
I just realised it's been altered again. Just for the moment I forget
which prog does that. It's changed %TMPDRV% to it's full value.

Line 10 should read:

CALL C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\FINDTEMP.BAT %TMPDRV%

There are certain parts of M$ Operating Systems that really pig me
off!

Shane




Shane wrote:
If interested, my current ME DOS Hack mode Autoexec.bat

snip

@ECHO OFF
CLS
IF "%CDRAMRUN%"=="1" GOTO LOOP

ATTRIB -H -S -A C:\WINDOWS\WIN386.SWP
ECHO.C:\WINDOWS\WIN386.SWP
PATH C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND
SET COMSPEC=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND.COM
SET TMPDRV=C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
CALL C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\FINDTEMP.BAT C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R
S T U V W X Y Z
SET TMP=%TEMP%
SET DIRCMD=/O:GEN/A/P
SET COPYCMD=/Y
SET GERTCHA=C:

IF "%CONFIG%"=="WME" SET GERTCHA=WIN
IF "%CONFIG%"=="SAFE" SET GERTCHA=WIN /D:M

IF "%CONFIG%"=="SAFE" GOTO QUICK
IF "%CONFIG%"=="MIN" GOTO QUICK

SET
PROMPT=[MS-DOS
8.00] $p$g SET
WINPMT=[WIN ME]
$p$g
IF "%CONFIG%"=="WME" GOTO QUICK
LH DOSKEY
DOSKEY /INSERT
LH ANSI.COM
SET MOUSE=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND
LH MOUSE.EXE /Q
LH SMARTDRV /X

IF "%CONFIG%"=="CMD" GOTO QUICK

SET COUNT=C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
SET CDRAMRUN=1
CALL AUTOEXEC.BAT %COUNT%
GOTO END

LOOP
SET COUNT=%1
IF NOT EXIST %COUNT%:\NUL SET CDROM=%COUNT%
IF "%COUNT%"=="%CDROM%" GOTO VARS_SET

SHIFT
GOTO LOOP

VARS_SET
SET RAMD=%0
SET PATH=%RAMD%:\;%PATH%
LH MSCDEX /D:MSCD001 /L:%CDROM%
SET CDRAMRUN=
SET COUNT=

QUICK
MODE CON CODEPAGE PREPARE=((850) C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\EGA.CPI)
MODE CON CODEPAGE SELECT=850
C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\EBD\KEYB UK,,C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\KEYBOARD.SYS
IF "%CONFIG%"=="CDR" CALL AV_SCAN
CLS
IF "%GERTCHA%"=="C:" GOTO ENDWAIT
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo Starting the day after any day now.....

ENDWAIT
%GERTCHA%

END


/snip


Shane









Shane wrote:
Since the first Babe I had the hots for had those initials, she's
who I think of when I see them. Talk about gazongas!

But I take it you mean Joe Dolce. :-) I mean John Doe!

Not much point, Harry, if you don't want Real Mode DOS unhidden on
your ME system. Same re generally learning DOS, which I suppose is
the other implication. Like all scripting languages it takes time
and experimentation to learn. Personally I, in almost every case,
have to experience it to learn it. To understand it's context. Odds
are if you've got this far without learning enough about DOS to
understand what I said, say within the same ballpark I said it in
(?), it means you have no need for it. So learning it would be a
complete and utter waste of time. Well, unless you've got it to
waste :-) But having an 'instructor' to oversee your attempts for
several
weeks or months, well, I guess that's a paid-for service! Otherwise
you get a basic introduction then experiment on your own until you
get it. Only you can destroy your system from DOS in a way you
can't from Windows, System-File-Protection-no-longer-running-wise!

So, what exactly are you asking, Harry? I can't e-mail you the DOS
hack setup because you have different settings. You have to run the
hack yourself. I could then supply you with an MS-DOS 8.00 OS to use
with it (especially since the US settings are the default ones, so
you simply remove reference to display, country and keyboard to get
them). But is there any point?


Shane


webster72n wrote:
You are dealing with *Internenet Calculus* here, Shane.
Is there a way to make this plausible to an *average *J.D*?
Surely sounds mighty interesting to me.

Harry.


"Shane" wrote in message
...
Hi Jack!

Apologies if incomprehensible.

My DOS Hack mode config.sys for Win ME (way below). I also have
one for XP and 98SE. I used to have a single set that determined
which OS was running, but can't be bothered anymore and just have
one
for each OS these days (you know, multiboot scenario, sharing
%TEMP% and poss. pagefile.sys).

In the autoexec.bat if the CDROM/RAMDrive option is selected, my
batch for determining which drive is which, runs. I used to have a
%CONFIG% for RAMDrive alone, one for CDROM alone and one where
both get installed - in short one for every possible contingency,
but have quit playing. Similarly I wrote a batch for determining
where
%TEMP% was, ie which drive, which OS; it still gets called but is
largely REMed out, and a batch for locating the swap file (then
overwriting it with an ECHO.filler%SWAP% -type command) but went
back to default.

A Safe Mode configuration is necessary of course because the hack
disables the F5/F8 means of booting to it.

I have long since built self-extractors to automatically install
the DOS hack-plus-config files - though only for UK copies of ME
(I even did an inno setup version a year ago but don't know if I
still have that).

The .exe installs a menu group with one-click return-to-default
(since bootup takes longer with Real Mode installed), basically
toggling Real Mode with a boot in between.

And there's an option to simply restore all original files. Chris
Quirke expressed concern about the computer crashing while IO.SYS
was being overwrit, but nothing remotely like that has ever
happened to me; I've never had a single issue with the Real Mode
DOS hack, but don't see a problem in Chris's scenario. If Windows
won't boot because it crashed while IO.SYS was being overwrit,
boot with the EBD and run SYS C: and the original files can be
restored at the same time if desired by typing BOOTBACK and
hitting Enter. The boot scans/backups option was expanded but as
I use it today is
pretty minimal. As a hangover from a previous version it still
backs up every .ini and .sys, for example, in %windir%,
%windir%\System or %windir%\System32, but it's really meant for
backing up the DOS side of the machine - presuming that in DOS one
is likely to edit .bats and the like - so all ascii files in C:
and %windir%\command plus boot files. Makebaks.bat zips these
using PKZip for DOS or the Winzip Command Line add-on (in Windows
and where installed) and stores up to seven copies on a seperate
drive. In the Command dir it saves a copy of the current backup
and of the previous one, uncompressed, so you edit a major .bat
then realise you made a big mistake, there are plenty of copies to
revert to. Now, there's another thing. Chris is leary about
DOSShell truncating LFNs, yet I don't see that happening. Type DS
and DOSShell starts (along with Smartdrv if not already running,
likewise Mouse. Though not Mouse if USB, of course). I do not see
it truncating LFNs. If you make a new partition then boot with an
EBD and SYS it, you
can then run this self-extractor on it and thereafter use it as an
MS-DOS 8.00 system without ever installing Windows.

For anyone interested, the majority if not all Upgrade copies of a
9x OS not meant to be installed on a clean partition, can be if
you create a folder on it called Windows and place in that a file
called WIN.COM. A text file will do. All it looks for is the
existence of a file of that name. Similarly to make such a drive
bootable just copy the relevent files over then run SYS C: (or SYS
A: C: prior to Win ME). Without a C:\Command.com, C:\IO.SYS etc,
SYS C: won't run. With them it will and you have basically a
bootable empty hard drive. When you use the start menu shortcuts
(or Start/Run - for instance
*MFD* installs Real Mode) if Real Mode is already installed and
you run MFD, it copies the boot files over the master copies, iow
you can edit the copies in the root and replace the masters too,
rather than have the new versions overwritten by the old ones the
next time you toggle modes.

The boot scan is what an AV (usually) does automatically in 95/98
but won't even install in ME even if it has been hacked. The same
files are scanned along with memory and mft etc, only (apart from
also running the AVG version if I have it installed, but whose
command line version I don't consider good enough to bother with
if it's not) it runs Kaspersky, Trend, McAfee, Norton and F-Prot
scanners, one after another. Though obviously they have to be
updated.

I used to have a CD that installed first DR-DOS 7.03, then MS-DOS
6.22, then WFWG 3.11 and a load of utilities and configuration.
You just needed a DR-DOS EBD to boot with initially. But I
ditched it as part of the need to ditch non-LFN aware OSes. I kind
of
wish I
still had that, but that is exactly why I had to throw it!

snip

DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS
DOS=HIGH,UMB

[MENU]
MENUITEM=WME,Windows
MENUITEM=SAFE,Safe Mode
MENUITEM=CMD,Command Prompt
MENUITEM=MIN,Command Prompt, Minimal Boot
MENUITEM=CDR,Command Prompt, Boot Scans, Backups, CDROM support
and RAMDrive MENUDEFAULT=WME,2
MENUCOLOR=15,1

[WME]

[SAFE]

[CMD]

[MIN]

[CDR]
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\EBD\OAKCDROM.SYS /D:MSCD001
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\RAMDRIVE.SYS /E 20480

[COMMON]
BUFFERS=10
FILES=40
BREAK=ON
COUNTRY=044,,C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\COUNTRY.SYS
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\EBD\DISPLAY.SYS CON=(EGA,,1)
SHELL=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND.COM /E:2048 /F /P
stacks=9,256

/snip


Shane

Jack E Martinelli wrote:
"Make one of those Keen DOS Startup Menus"
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article02-054


"Kevin J. Nielsen" wrote in message
...
Whoops, I cancelled that message; I guess not fast enough.
Sorry. The reason I didnt ask how to create a boot disk with CD
support is that I like the menu in the WinMe boot disk. I would
like to at least have 1) boot with CD support, and 2) minimal
boot. I know how to make a boot disk with CD support but I dont
know how to make a menu.

Another thing that would be even better and I wouldnt have
to throw away a potentially useful tool is if I could add a menu
item to the Windows Millennium boot disk: 5) boot with CD and
no ramdrive.

Anyway, I am sorry if I offended anyone; I will try to think
more carefully next time before I make a post.

Thank you Plonk for your help.

Keven

SNIP

webster72n wrote:
Are we having fun or what, Shane?

....or a poke in the eye.

You were right in the first place: if I've gotten this far without it,
there's no need for scripting and we'd better leave it that way,
even tough I find it mighty interesting.

Yes, well that's the only reason I know as much as I do (which isn't that
much, but is enough for me, not wanting to spend the rest of my life in
front of a computer).

Bear in mind even now I don't entirely speak computerese. Maybe batch isn't
even considered script (?) but it is to me, because to me script is
"Exterior: Guy walks down street looking for a bar, sees establishment with
a Cheers-like facade and sign above saying 'MICKS'...he goes
in...Interior:..."

Too many other things take preference over it anyway and, if I had a
choice, I'd rather be an artist (painter).
Should I ever need anything done in this field, my eyes would be on
you, can I count on that?


Oh, way I'm going I'll be dead before then Harry!

:-)

Daresay there's someone out there superstitious enough to expect me to keel
over in short order having said that.


Shane

"Shane" wrote in message
...
webster72n wrote:
Are we having fun or what, Shane?

...or a poke in the eye.

You were right in the first place: if I've gotten this far without it,
there's no need for scripting and we'd better leave it that way,
even tough I find it mighty interesting.

Yes, well that's the only reason I know as much as I do (which isn't that
much, but is enough for me, not wanting to spend the rest of my life in
front of a computer).

Bear in mind even now I don't entirely speak computerese. Maybe batch
isn't
even considered script (?) but it is to me, because to me script is
"Exterior: Guy walks down street looking for a bar, sees establishment
with
a Cheers-like facade and sign above saying 'MICKS'...he goes
in...Interior:..."

Too many other things take preference over it anyway and, if I had a
choice, I'd rather be an artist (painter).
Should I ever need anything done in this field, my eyes would be on
you, can I count on that?


Oh, way I'm going I'll be dead before then Harry!

:-)

Daresay there's someone out there superstitious enough to expect me to
keel
over in short order having said that.

Never, ever talk like that in front of me, Shane, you'll be surprised at the
length of your stay here, in spite of all the problems your are facing. The
key to this secret is your cat, so keep her around.

Cheers,

Harry.


Shane

Thank you Jack, that is very helpful.

Keven


"Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message
...
"Make one of those Keen DOS Startup Menus"
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article02-054

--
Jack E. Martinelli Former MS MVP 2002-06 for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
------

I hope it is so. As Shane's comments illustrate, this DOS batch file stuff
can get very complicated, which just goes to show how powerful such DOS
tools can be. Real geeks can do almost anything with simply a "command
line".
For a simple "Startup Menu", with only a few options, the necessary files
are quite easy to understand and impliment.

I hope you can make it work for you. Repost for any necessary additional
help.
Happy Holidays.
--
Jack E. Martinelli Former MS MVP 2002-06 for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
------
"Kevin J. Nielsen" wrote in message
...
Thank you Jack, that is very helpful.

Keven


"Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message
...
"Make one of those Keen DOS Startup Menus"
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article02-054

--
Jack E. Martinelli Former MS MVP 2002-06 for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
------