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Reinstalling Win 98
Hi Gary,
The high pitched noise came from the top of the tower near the CDROM. It's tone did not sound like the beeps Windows makes. It lasted for 1.5 mins. I did upgrade with two 128MB PC100 SDRAM. Not Dimms. I will check the CPU fan. The other fan (larger one,exterior) near the top of the tower, works as I can put my hand near and feel the wind. I will do the connections you mentioned. I just wanted to rule out as much in the AM as possible. -- Do what you enjoy for a living! "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: It's late, and I'll maybe think of something tomorrow, but that "high pitched noise" wasn't the motherboard speaker by chance? The one that beeps (or sometimes screams) when you get those errors? The other possibility is that what you heard was a hard drive squirming in its last throws of death. If it was the Primary Master, its still being connected would cause problems for the Primary Slave HD. (You have two HDs, right?) The other fan is the CPU fan, and you check it by putting your finger on its center to stop it, then let go. It should immediately crank up to full speed. No, you can't use anything but a proper IDE cable for your drives (motherboard to drives.) But that brings to mind power cables which brings to mind the power supply, which is usually at the top of the machine and has its own fan. If it went haywire, it might even have fried the drive(s). Try connecting the CDROM drive as Primary Master and disconnecting the two HDs (including their power connectors. Does BIOS see the CDROM drive properly? If so, swap that out for one of the drives, doesn't matter which, to see if that's detected properly, then test the second drive, again as Primary Master. In other words, test each one completely separate from the others. If not even the CDROM gets detected properly, then the controller (what you plug into on the motherboard) is perhaps fried. More in the morning when I've had a chance to read more carefully and do some research. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "grafxfriday" wrote in message ... Hi Ben, Gary and Rebel, OK first new info then what I did(operations) then Questions. New Info I do have the Windows 98 book with the cd key but no book for the eMachine itself. AMIBIOS version 1.20, base memory 641kb, Ext. Memory 262144. Hard Drive is Seagate U4 Model ST34311A, 4.3Gbytes, Firmware 6.01, 8944 CYL, 15HDE and 63 SECT. Motherboard is Intel AGPse FW8243LZ. I also found jumper settings. Operations Hardware I opened the computer and reseated the cable ribbons to and from the motherboard (3) and the CDROM ribbon also. Reseated the 2 Dimms cards and all connections on Motherboard and CDROM. BIOS SETUP - I reset BIOS to auto. The only thing it detected was CDROM in Secondary Master. (the Primary Slave was 26). UTILITY - clicked detect IDE, went to autodetect. again the only thing that was detected was SM CDROM. DEFAULT - Clicked load optimal. Then proceeded to startup error 202:boot failure and 203:insert boot diskette in A. I inserted cd then pressed format HDD with step by step. path=a:\ N. a:\format c: invalid drive specification. Restore HDD from CDROM. Restore is now in progress. C: Y. Invalid drive specification. cd\ Y md c:\windows Y IDS (then 2 more commands windows\system, windows\options. Same error Invalid Drive Specification.) a:\unzip - od c:\windows\options\R:\cabs.img (went from small r to capital R) checkdir: can't create extraction directory Back to BIOS - I uninstalled A. The computer beeps only once now. Error 200 and 203, insert cd, Boot to DOS prompt from cdrom. A:\dir (all the files seem to be here) Questions Hardware I remember there was a high pitched noise coming from the top of the computer when it crashed. I am sure the exterior fan is working. How do I check the other internal fan? Could I unplug the A drive cable or could it be connected to the CDROM? Operations How can I reformat the drives? Thank you all for your help. grafxfriday |
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"grafxfriday" wrote in message
... Hi Gary, The high pitched noise came from the top of the tower near the CDROM. It's tone did not sound like the beeps Windows makes. It lasted for 1.5 mins. Honestly, that sounds like one of your hard drives bit the dust. I did upgrade with two 128MB PC100 SDRAM. Not Dimms. I though you said that aftetr you installed the RAM the new installation went well? When did you install the RAM and has the system efver worked well since? I will check the CPU fan. The other fan (larger one,exterior) near the top of the tower, works as I can put my hand near and feel the wind. That's probably the PWS (PoWer Supply) fan. You should have at lest one more on the CPU heatsink. I will do the connections you mentioned. I just wanted to rule out as much in the AM as possible. Remember... Be methodical. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com -- Do what you enjoy for a living! "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: It's late, and I'll maybe think of something tomorrow, but that "high pitched noise" wasn't the motherboard speaker by chance? The one that beeps (or sometimes screams) when you get those errors? The other possibility is that what you heard was a hard drive squirming in its last throws of death. If it was the Primary Master, its still being connected would cause problems for the Primary Slave HD. (You have two HDs, right?) The other fan is the CPU fan, and you check it by putting your finger on its center to stop it, then let go. It should immediately crank up to full speed. No, you can't use anything but a proper IDE cable for your drives (motherboard to drives.) But that brings to mind power cables which brings to mind the power supply, which is usually at the top of the machine and has its own fan. If it went haywire, it might even have fried the drive(s). Try connecting the CDROM drive as Primary Master and disconnecting the two HDs (including their power connectors. Does BIOS see the CDROM drive properly? If so, swap that out for one of the drives, doesn't matter which, to see if that's detected properly, then test the second drive, again as Primary Master. In other words, test each one completely separate from the others. If not even the CDROM gets detected properly, then the controller (what you plug into on the motherboard) is perhaps fried. More in the morning when I've had a chance to read more carefully and do some research. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "grafxfriday" wrote in message ... Hi Ben, Gary and Rebel, OK first new info then what I did(operations) then Questions. New Info I do have the Windows 98 book with the cd key but no book for the eMachine itself. AMIBIOS version 1.20, base memory 641kb, Ext. Memory 262144. Hard Drive is Seagate U4 Model ST34311A, 4.3Gbytes, Firmware 6.01, 8944 CYL, 15HDE and 63 SECT. Motherboard is Intel AGPse FW8243LZ. I also found jumper settings. Operations Hardware I opened the computer and reseated the cable ribbons to and from the motherboard (3) and the CDROM ribbon also. Reseated the 2 Dimms cards and all connections on Motherboard and CDROM. BIOS SETUP - I reset BIOS to auto. The only thing it detected was CDROM in Secondary Master. (the Primary Slave was 26). UTILITY - clicked detect IDE, went to autodetect. again the only thing that was detected was SM CDROM. DEFAULT - Clicked load optimal. Then proceeded to startup error 202:boot failure and 203:insert boot diskette in A. I inserted cd then pressed format HDD with step by step. path=a:\ N. a:\format c: invalid drive specification. Restore HDD from CDROM. Restore is now in progress. C: Y. Invalid drive specification. cd\ Y md c:\windows Y IDS (then 2 more commands windows\system, windows\options. Same error Invalid Drive Specification.) a:\unzip - od c:\windows\options\R:\cabs.img (went from small r to capital R) checkdir: can't create extraction directory Back to BIOS - I uninstalled A. The computer beeps only once now. Error 200 and 203, insert cd, Boot to DOS prompt from cdrom. A:\dir (all the files seem to be here) Questions Hardware I remember there was a high pitched noise coming from the top of the computer when it crashed. I am sure the exterior fan is working. How do I check the other internal fan? Could I unplug the A drive cable or could it be connected to the CDROM? Operations How can I reformat the drives? Thank you all for your help. grafxfriday |
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"grafxfriday" wrote in message
... Hi Gary, The high pitched noise came from the top of the tower near the CDROM. It's tone did not sound like the beeps Windows makes. It lasted for 1.5 mins. Honestly, that sounds like one of your hard drives bit the dust. I did upgrade with two 128MB PC100 SDRAM. Not Dimms. I though you said that aftetr you installed the RAM the new installation went well? When did you install the RAM and has the system efver worked well since? I will check the CPU fan. The other fan (larger one,exterior) near the top of the tower, works as I can put my hand near and feel the wind. That's probably the PWS (PoWer Supply) fan. You should have at lest one more on the CPU heatsink. I will do the connections you mentioned. I just wanted to rule out as much in the AM as possible. Remember... Be methodical. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com -- Do what you enjoy for a living! "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: It's late, and I'll maybe think of something tomorrow, but that "high pitched noise" wasn't the motherboard speaker by chance? The one that beeps (or sometimes screams) when you get those errors? The other possibility is that what you heard was a hard drive squirming in its last throws of death. If it was the Primary Master, its still being connected would cause problems for the Primary Slave HD. (You have two HDs, right?) The other fan is the CPU fan, and you check it by putting your finger on its center to stop it, then let go. It should immediately crank up to full speed. No, you can't use anything but a proper IDE cable for your drives (motherboard to drives.) But that brings to mind power cables which brings to mind the power supply, which is usually at the top of the machine and has its own fan. If it went haywire, it might even have fried the drive(s). Try connecting the CDROM drive as Primary Master and disconnecting the two HDs (including their power connectors. Does BIOS see the CDROM drive properly? If so, swap that out for one of the drives, doesn't matter which, to see if that's detected properly, then test the second drive, again as Primary Master. In other words, test each one completely separate from the others. If not even the CDROM gets detected properly, then the controller (what you plug into on the motherboard) is perhaps fried. More in the morning when I've had a chance to read more carefully and do some research. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "grafxfriday" wrote in message ... Hi Ben, Gary and Rebel, OK first new info then what I did(operations) then Questions. New Info I do have the Windows 98 book with the cd key but no book for the eMachine itself. AMIBIOS version 1.20, base memory 641kb, Ext. Memory 262144. Hard Drive is Seagate U4 Model ST34311A, 4.3Gbytes, Firmware 6.01, 8944 CYL, 15HDE and 63 SECT. Motherboard is Intel AGPse FW8243LZ. I also found jumper settings. Operations Hardware I opened the computer and reseated the cable ribbons to and from the motherboard (3) and the CDROM ribbon also. Reseated the 2 Dimms cards and all connections on Motherboard and CDROM. BIOS SETUP - I reset BIOS to auto. The only thing it detected was CDROM in Secondary Master. (the Primary Slave was 26). UTILITY - clicked detect IDE, went to autodetect. again the only thing that was detected was SM CDROM. DEFAULT - Clicked load optimal. Then proceeded to startup error 202:boot failure and 203:insert boot diskette in A. I inserted cd then pressed format HDD with step by step. path=a:\ N. a:\format c: invalid drive specification. Restore HDD from CDROM. Restore is now in progress. C: Y. Invalid drive specification. cd\ Y md c:\windows Y IDS (then 2 more commands windows\system, windows\options. Same error Invalid Drive Specification.) a:\unzip - od c:\windows\options\R:\cabs.img (went from small r to capital R) checkdir: can't create extraction directory Back to BIOS - I uninstalled A. The computer beeps only once now. Error 200 and 203, insert cd, Boot to DOS prompt from cdrom. A:\dir (all the files seem to be here) Questions Hardware I remember there was a high pitched noise coming from the top of the computer when it crashed. I am sure the exterior fan is working. How do I check the other internal fan? Could I unplug the A drive cable or could it be connected to the CDROM? Operations How can I reformat the drives? Thank you all for your help. grafxfriday |
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"grafxfriday" wrote in message ...
Hi Ben, Gary and Rebel, OK first new info then what I did(operations) then Questions. New Info I do have the Windows 98 book with the cd key but no book for the eMachine itself. AMIBIOS version 1.20, base memory 641kb, Ext. Memory 262144. Hard Drive is Seagate U4 Model ST34311A, 4.3Gbytes, Firmware 6.01, 8944 CYL, 15HDE and 63 SECT. Motherboard is Intel AGPse FW8243LZ. I also found jumper settings. Operations Hardware I opened the computer and reseated the cable ribbons to and from the motherboard (3) and the CDROM ribbon also. Reseated the 2 Dimms cards and all connections on Motherboard and CDROM. BIOS SETUP - I reset BIOS to auto. The only thing it detected was CDROM in Secondary Master. (the Primary Slave was 26). UTILITY - clicked detect IDE, went to autodetect. again the only thing that was detected was SM CDROM. DEFAULT - Clicked load optimal. Then proceeded to startup error 202:boot failure and 203:insert boot diskette in A. I inserted cd then pressed format HDD with step by step. path=a:\ N. a:\format c: invalid drive specification. snip Make sure the drive is jumpered correctly, probably "Master, slave not present". Also, you might try the drive in a known good computer or put a known good drive in the computer with the problem. Ben Ben |
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Reinstalling Win 98
"grafxfriday" wrote in message ...
Hi Ben, Gary and Rebel, OK first new info then what I did(operations) then Questions. New Info I do have the Windows 98 book with the cd key but no book for the eMachine itself. AMIBIOS version 1.20, base memory 641kb, Ext. Memory 262144. Hard Drive is Seagate U4 Model ST34311A, 4.3Gbytes, Firmware 6.01, 8944 CYL, 15HDE and 63 SECT. Motherboard is Intel AGPse FW8243LZ. I also found jumper settings. Operations Hardware I opened the computer and reseated the cable ribbons to and from the motherboard (3) and the CDROM ribbon also. Reseated the 2 Dimms cards and all connections on Motherboard and CDROM. BIOS SETUP - I reset BIOS to auto. The only thing it detected was CDROM in Secondary Master. (the Primary Slave was 26). UTILITY - clicked detect IDE, went to autodetect. again the only thing that was detected was SM CDROM. DEFAULT - Clicked load optimal. Then proceeded to startup error 202:boot failure and 203:insert boot diskette in A. I inserted cd then pressed format HDD with step by step. path=a:\ N. a:\format c: invalid drive specification. snip Make sure the drive is jumpered correctly, probably "Master, slave not present". Also, you might try the drive in a known good computer or put a known good drive in the computer with the problem. Ben Ben |
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