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Old October 18th 05, 07:07 AM
Noel Paton
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"Sparda" wrote in message
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"all actually need drivers"
No they don’t, the graphics card out puts a standerdized signel, the
operating system just "tells" the graphics card what to show, it
proccess what is to be displayed, and out puts it as a standared
single (this applies for both RGB and DVI).


.....and what the heck do you think a Driver is/does??


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Old October 18th 05, 07:36 PM
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"" wrote:
"Sparda" wrote in message
news:1458179_0b680631014eb0c671138f5a03d35fb7@wind owsforumz.com...
"all actually need drivers"
No they don’t, the graphics card out puts a standerdized

signel, the
operating system just "tells" the graphics card what to

show, it
proccess what is to be displayed, and out puts it as a

standared
single (this applies for both RGB and DVI).


.....and what the heck do you think a Driver is/does??


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I think a device driver controls a device, which is true for nearly
all devices, one of these exceptions is of coures the monitor, which
dosnt need a driver, becasue it is upto the monitor to detect what
resoluton, depth and refrash rate the graphics card is displaying at,
and the graphics card outputs a standared signel hence needs no
driver, as it operates nearly totaly indipendant of the rest of the
computer, the only thing it depends upon is a signle that it
recognises. Modern monitors of course support plug and play, which
means that it will (or at least atempt) to tell the operating system
what resolutions it is capable of. Please take a note from the Linux
handbook, when configuring X (the GUI system for unix based OSs) you
don’t install a monitor driver, becasue monitors don’t need or
requier drivers, you do how ever specifie lots of details about the
monitor so that X is configured to display properly, of course there
have been huge lists of diffrent monitors and there vendors put
together to make configuration easyer but they are not drivers, just
configuration files.
  #13  
Old October 18th 05, 08:35 PM
Noel Paton
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Aaah! - the old 'special exceptions' clause, when ever it involves the
subject at hand......

I rest my case.

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"Sparda" wrote in message
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"" wrote:
"Sparda" wrote in message
news:1458179_0b680631014eb0c671138f5a03d35fb7@wind owsforumz.com...
"all actually need drivers"
No they don’t, the graphics card out puts a standerdized

signel, the
operating system just "tells" the graphics card what to

show, it
proccess what is to be displayed, and out puts it as a

standared
single (this applies for both RGB and DVI).


.....and what the heck do you think a Driver is/does??


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I think a device driver controls a device, which is true for nearly
all devices, one of these exceptions is of coures the monitor, which
dosnt need a driver, becasue it is upto the monitor to detect what
resoluton, depth and refrash rate the graphics card is displaying at,
and the graphics card outputs a standared signel hence needs no
driver, as it operates nearly totaly indipendant of the rest of the
computer, the only thing it depends upon is a signle that it
recognises. Modern monitors of course support plug and play, which
means that it will (or at least atempt) to tell the operating system
what resolutions it is capable of. Please take a note from the Linux
handbook, when configuring X (the GUI system for unix based OSs) you
don’t install a monitor driver, becasue monitors don’t need or
requier drivers, you do how ever specifie lots of details about the
monitor so that X is configured to display properly, of course there
have been huge lists of diffrent monitors and there vendors put
together to make configuration easyer but they are not drivers, just
configuration files.



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Old October 18th 05, 11:36 PM
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"" wrote:
Aaah! - the old 'special exceptions' clause, when ever it
involves the
subject at hand......

I rest my case.

--
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"Sparda" wrote in message
news:1459508_51412964ec131c104dc2b1890b018b76@wind owsforumz.com...
"" wrote:
"Sparda" wrote in message
news:1458179_0b680631014eb0c671138f5a03d35fb7@wind owsforumz.com...
"all actually need drivers"
No they don’t, the graphics card out puts a

standerdized
signel, the
operating system just "tells" the graphics card what to
show, it
proccess what is to be displayed, and out puts it as a
standared
single (this applies for both RGB and DVI).


.....and what the heck do you think a Driver is/does??


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

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I think a device driver controls a device, which is true for

nearly
all devices, one of these exceptions is of coures the

monitor, which
dosnt need a driver, becasue it is upto the monitor to

detect what
resoluton, depth and refrash rate the graphics card is

displaying at,
and the graphics card outputs a standared signel hence needs

no
driver, as it operates nearly totaly indipendant of the

rest of the
computer, the only thing it depends upon is a signle that it
recognises. Modern monitors of course support plug and play,

which
means that it will (or at least atempt) to tell the

operating system
what resolutions it is capable of. Please take a note from

the Linux
handbook, when configuring X (the GUI system for unix based

OSs) you
don’t install a monitor driver, becasue monitors don’t

need or
requier drivers, you do how ever specifie lots of details

about the
monitor so that X is configured to display properly, of

course there
have been huge lists of diffrent monitors and there vendors

put
together to make configuration easyer but they are not

drivers, just
configuration files.


Are you surgesting speakers need drivers?
  #15  
Old October 19th 05, 02:26 AM
webster72n
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Gunter:

You may want to try this:
Open Drivers - Free Download Fujitsu Device Driver Downloads.
If your eyeballed model is of a different make, go to the corresponding
website.

Harry.


"Gunter Hansen" wrote in message
...
I am thinking about to buy a TFT screen for an older PC on which a WinME

resp. Win98 is running.
Are there drivers available for these old WinOS?

Or is the minimum Win2000 required to use TFT screens ?

Gunter



  #16  
Old October 19th 05, 06:32 AM
Noel Paton
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"Sparda" wrote in message
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"" wrote:
Aaah! - the old 'special exceptions' clause, when ever it
involves the
subject at hand......

I rest my case.

--
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"Sparda" wrote in message
news:1459508_51412964ec131c104dc2b1890b018b76@wind owsforumz.com...
"" wrote:
"Sparda" wrote in message
news:1458179_0b680631014eb0c671138f5a03d35fb7@wind owsforumz.com...
"all actually need drivers"
No they don’t, the graphics card out puts a standerdized
signel, the operating system just "tells" the graphics card what
to show, it proccess what is to be displayed, and out puts it as
a standared single (this applies for both RGB and DVI).


.....and what the heck do you think a Driver is/does??


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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I think a device driver controls a device, which is true for nearly
all devices, one of these exceptions is of coures the monitor, which
dosnt need a driver, becasue it is upto the monitor to

detect what
resoluton, depth and refrash rate the graphics card is displaying
at, and the graphics card outputs a standared signel hence needs no
driver, as it operates nearly totaly indipendant of the

rest of the
computer, the only thing it depends upon is a signle that it
recognises. Modern monitors of course support plug and play, which
means that it will (or at least atempt) to tell the

operating system
what resolutions it is capable of. Please take a note from the Linux
handbook, when configuring X (the GUI system for unix based OSs) you
don’t install a monitor driver, becasue monitors don’t need or
requier drivers, you do how ever specifie lots of details about the
monitor so that X is configured to display properly, of course there
have been huge lists of diffrent monitors and there vendors put
together to make configuration easyer but they are not drivers, just
configuration files.


Are you surgesting speakers need drivers?



What the heck do you think a sound card is?

--
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Old October 19th 05, 06:35 PM
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"" wrote:
"Sparda" wrote in message
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"" wrote:
Aaah! - the old 'special exceptions' clause, when ever it
involves the
subject at hand......

I rest my case.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"Sparda" wrote in message
news:1459508_51412964ec131c104dc2b1890b018b76@wind owsforumz.com...
"" wrote:
"Sparda" wrote in message
news:1458179_0b680631014eb0c671138f5a03d35fb7@wind owsforumz.com...
"all actually need drivers"
No they don’t, the graphics card out puts a

standerdized
signel, the operating system just "tells" the graphics

card what
to show, it proccess what is to be displayed, and out

puts it as
a standared single (this applies for both RGB and DVI).


.....and what the heck do you think a Driver is/does??


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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messages to NG's

I think a device driver controls a device, which is true

for nearly
all devices, one of these exceptions is of coures the

monitor, which
dosnt need a driver, becasue it is upto the monitor to
detect what
resoluton, depth and refrash rate the graphics card is

displaying
at, and the graphics card outputs a standared signel hence

needs no
driver, as it operates nearly totaly indipendant of the
rest of the
computer, the only thing it depends upon is a signle that

it
recognises. Modern monitors of course support plug and

play, which
means that it will (or at least atempt) to tell the
operating system
what resolutions it is capable of. Please take a note from

the Linux
handbook, when configuring X (the GUI system for unix

based OSs) you
don’t install a monitor driver, becasue monitors don’t

need or
requier drivers, you do how ever specifie lots of details

about the
monitor so that X is configured to display properly, of

course there
have been huge lists of diffrent monitors and there

vendors put
together to make configuration easyer but they are not

drivers, just
configuration files.


Are you surgesting speakers need drivers?



What the heck do you think a sound card is?

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
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I know what a sound card is, my point is that speakers don’t need
drivers full stop bececasue they do not interact with other hardware
of the PC except the sound card, and then they only recive the signel.
This is how it is with non plug-and-play monitors, monitors when used
with a PC running windows only "need" drivers becasue windows says
they must. In reality, they don’t need drivers at all, the operating
system just needs to know the correct specifications of the monitor,
and windows gets this information using windows drivers. Natruly with
plug-and-play monitors the OS will usualy automaticly detect what
monitor it is, and then use a configuration list to look up what the
monitors correct configuration is. If , however, the monitor found
dosn’t have a matching modle/vendor etc., or the monitor is not plug
and play complient, then most OSs (including windows) will display
using a
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_display_standard]Computer
display standard
but the user can change that at there descretion (and at they’er
own risk).
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Old October 19th 05, 08:15 PM
Noel Paton
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"Sparda" wrote in message
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I know what a sound card is, my point is that speakers don’t need
drivers full stop bececasue they do not interact with other hardware
of the PC except the sound card, and then they only recive the signel.
This is how it is with non plug-and-play monitors, monitors when used
with a PC running windows only "need" drivers becasue windows says
they must. In reality, they don’t need drivers at all, the operating
system just needs to know the correct specifications of the monitor,
and windows gets this information using windows drivers. Natruly with
plug-and-play monitors the OS will usualy automaticly detect what
monitor it is, and then use a configuration list to look up what the
monitors correct configuration is. If , however, the monitor found
dosn’t have a matching modle/vendor etc., or the monitor is not plug
and play complient, then most OSs (including windows) will display
using a
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_display_standard]Computer
display standard
but the user can change that at there descretion (and at they’er
own risk).


You have it arse-about-face, I'm afraid .

ALL hardware attached to a PC needs drivers - otherwise the PC has no idea
what to do. The drivers may be embedded within the OS, or within other
devices, but they are there. The drivers for a normal speaker set are the
D-A convertors embedded within the soundcard (and its drivers) - those for a
true digital speaker system are Windows (or whatever) based (or again,
wihtin the soundcard drivers).

Windows installs DEFAULT drivers in the absence of any others - which is
what allows your old VGA montor to work on your brand new PCI-x card, as
well as the wonderful 42" HD plasma screen that you also installed.

Have you ever run a system with no soundcard and tried to use speakers?
doesn't work very well, does it?? Even the inbuilt System Speaker (the thing
that may 'beep' on startup) needs a driver - but that's usually provided by
the BIOS.


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Old October 19th 05, 10:35 PM
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"" wrote:
"Sparda" wrote in message
news:1460976_79a64439419e8da8012a150cd04a1432@wind owsforumz.com


I know what a sound card is, my point is that speakers

don’t need
drivers full stop bececasue they do not interact with other

hardware
of the PC except the sound card, and then they only recive

the signel.
This is how it is with non plug-and-play monitors, monitors

when used
with a PC running windows only "need" drivers becasue

windows says
they must. In reality, they don’t need drivers at all, the

operating
system just needs to know the correct specifications of the

monitor,
and windows gets this information using windows drivers.

Natruly with
plug-and-play monitors the OS will usualy automaticly detect

what
monitor it is, and then use a configuration list to look up

what the
monitors correct configuration is. If , however, the monitor

found
dosn’t have a matching modle/vendor etc., or the monitor

is not plug
and play complient, then most OSs (including windows) will

display
using a
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_display_standard]Computer
display standard
but the user can change that at there descretion (and at

they’er
own risk).


You have it arse-about-face, I'm afraid .

ALL hardware attached to a PC needs drivers - otherwise the PC
has no idea
what to do. The drivers may be embedded within the OS, or
within other
devices, but they are there. The drivers for a normal speaker
set are the
D-A convertors embedded within the soundcard (and its drivers)
- those for a
true digital speaker system are Windows (or whatever) based
(or again,
wihtin the soundcard drivers).

Windows installs DEFAULT drivers in the absence of any others
- which is
what allows your old VGA montor to work on your brand new
PCI-x card, as
well as the wonderful 42" HD plasma screen that you also
installed.

Have you ever run a system with no soundcard and tried to use
speakers?
doesn't work very well, does it?? Even the inbuilt System
Speaker (the thing
that may 'beep' on startup) needs a driver - but that's
usually provided by
the BIOS.


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"ALL hardware attached to a PC needs drivers"
Power Supplies need drivers?
Speakers need drivers?
Monitors need drivers?
The case needs a driver?
A network switchs/HUBs needs a driver?
A router needs a driver? (Not including USB routers/modems)
Inernal cooling fans need drivers?
A stereo (a all in one, amplifire, tape player, cd player, radio with
aux in that is) plugged into the sound card needs drivers?

I think you will find there is quite a bit of hardware that dosn’t
requier a driver of any nature (including the monitor). What have you
got to say now?
 




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