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  #11  
Old May 7th 05, 03:43 PM
Noel Paton
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System Restore
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=279736

To boot to DOS in ME you have to use a Boot Disk - if you don't have an ME
disk, then download the OEM ME Boot diskmaker from www.bootdisk.com, run it
to create the floppy, then boot from said floppy.

Did you remember the cautions with TweakUI???

Note - there are a few cautions with TweakUI:-
1) Do *not* change the first icon from "My Documents" on the Desktop tab
2) Do *not* uncheck: Search Results on the Desktop tab
3) Do *not* hide the Tweak UI icon on the Control Panel tab
4) Do *not* uncheck: Show Control Panel on Start Menu on the IE tab
5) Do *not* uncheck: Shell enhancements on the IE tab
6) To move "My Documents" folder, right-click on the Folder, and click
Properties.


HTH


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"ms" wrote in message ...
ms wrote:
A used Dell computer, no system disks, no ME install disk. It is running
ME, IMO it originally came from Dell with W98SE installed.

ME does not appear in Add/Remove programs.

How to cleanly uninstall ME?


Thanks to all for good data.
Based on this, I decided to keep ME and work with it.

I loaded one of my W98 utilities, and it tripped me up. Tweakui ver. 1.33
IMO would work in ME, but it does not. It really screwed things up. My
Control Panel is gone, Accessories in Start Menu is gone, etc.

Need some help:
1. How to get to a DOS prompt- see no way to do it?
In W98SE, when a glitch occurs, I go to a DOS prompt, scanreg/restore, I
pick an earlier registry to load, and go back to before the glitch.
How to do that in ME?

2. What does System Restore do, and how to activate it? Will this help the
situation? BTW, I've seen several comments to get rid of it.

3. How to get Control Panel back?

4. How to get the Accessories folder shortcut back into Start Menu?

5. In the Shutdown screen, in W98, I have "go to DOS prompt", not in ME,
how to create that?

6. How to create a ME boot disk?

7. Now the Password screen is coming up, I know the W98 fixes, are there
any unique ME fixes?

8. How to remove Network Neighborhood from desktop?

Thanks



  #12  
Old May 8th 05, 12:05 AM
ms
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Noel Paton wrote:
System Restore
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=279736

To boot to DOS in ME you have to use a Boot Disk - if you don't have an ME
disk, then download the OEM ME Boot diskmaker from www.bootdisk.com, run it
to create the floppy, then boot from said floppy.

Thanks for the links. The boot disk will start my recovery process.

I gather that ME does not have the scanreg/restore option, and uses System
Restore?

Did you remember the cautions with TweakUI???

Note - there are a few cautions with TweakUI:-
1) Do *not* change the first icon from "My Documents" on the Desktop tab
2) Do *not* uncheck: Search Results on the Desktop tab
3) Do *not* hide the Tweak UI icon on the Control Panel tab
4) Do *not* uncheck: Show Control Panel on Start Menu on the IE tab
5) Do *not* uncheck: Shell enhancements on the IE tab
6) To move "My Documents" folder, right-click on the Folder, and click
Properties.

I've used Tweakui in W95/98 for IIRC about 7 years, saved info, never saw
your data above before. Still, I never unchecked "show Control Panel", or
Accessories, etc.

Tweakui did these things in error. On a W98 ng, an expert there never uses
Tweakui, I've never had a problem in W98SE. But I had exactly what he
described when I used it in ME. Is there a safe version of Tweakui to use
in ME?

Thanks again for your help, will report back when I start with the boot disk.
  #13  
Old May 8th 05, 12:17 AM
Mike M
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You can use scanreg /restore with Win Me as you can with Win 98/98SE but
remember this just restores the registry rather than system restore which
will also restore any modified or deleted system files. IOW system
restore is far more powerful and useful than scanreg when a user is
experiencing serious problems.

Turning to TweakUI, v1.33 was written and released for use with Win Me.
TweakUI is perfectly safe, what is not is what a user can do with TweakUI.
g Hence the list of gotchas that Noel posted. Also TweakUI should not
have caused the loss of the Accessories folder in Start | Programs and I
don't actually think it can cause that particular problem nor is TweakUI
the cause of an empty control panel - something that is far more often the
result of unwanted malware.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



ms wrote:

Noel Paton wrote:
System Restore
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=279736

To boot to DOS in ME you have to use a Boot Disk - if you don't have
an ME disk, then download the OEM ME Boot diskmaker from
www.bootdisk.com, run it to create the floppy, then boot from said
floppy.

Thanks for the links. The boot disk will start my recovery process.

I gather that ME does not have the scanreg/restore option, and uses
System Restore?

Did you remember the cautions with TweakUI???

Note - there are a few cautions with TweakUI:-
1) Do *not* change the first icon from "My Documents" on the Desktop
tab 2) Do *not* uncheck: Search Results on the Desktop tab
3) Do *not* hide the Tweak UI icon on the Control Panel tab
4) Do *not* uncheck: Show Control Panel on Start Menu on the IE tab
5) Do *not* uncheck: Shell enhancements on the IE tab
6) To move "My Documents" folder, right-click on the Folder, and
click Properties.

I've used Tweakui in W95/98 for IIRC about 7 years, saved info, never
saw your data above before. Still, I never unchecked "show Control
Panel", or Accessories, etc.

Tweakui did these things in error. On a W98 ng, an expert there never
uses Tweakui, I've never had a problem in W98SE. But I had exactly
what he described when I used it in ME. Is there a safe version of
Tweakui to use in ME?

Thanks again for your help, will report back when I start with the
boot disk.


  #14  
Old May 8th 05, 03:41 AM
Rick T
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ms wrote:
Need some help:
1. How to get to a DOS prompt- see no way to do it?


Technically you're supposed to use the EBD (Emergency Boot Disk),
makeable from ControlPanel/AddRemoveSoftware|StartupDisk.

But there's freeware out there to let you boot from C: into DOS.


2. What does System Restore do, and how to activate it? Will this help
the situation? BTW, I've seen several comments to get rid of it.


It saves system files so if you screw up you can restore them; just pick
a Restore Point from before you fiddled with UI.


3. How to get Control Panel back?


see above.

4. How to get the Accessories folder shortcut back into Start Menu?

5. In the Shutdown screen, in W98, I have "go to DOS prompt", not in ME,
how to create that?


with really incredible difficulty. No idea.


6. How to create a ME boot disk?


see above.


7. Now the Password screen is coming up, I know the W98 fixes, are there
any unique ME fixes?


eh? As long as you haven't got M$ Networking installed you should be
able to fix it by not entering a password.


8. How to remove Network Neighborhood from desktop?


see above, then delete.


Rick


Thanks

  #15  
Old May 8th 05, 09:10 AM
Noel Paton
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(what Mike said!)

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"Mike M" wrote in message
...
You can use scanreg /restore with Win Me as you can with Win 98/98SE but
remember this just restores the registry rather than system restore which
will also restore any modified or deleted system files. IOW system
restore is far more powerful and useful than scanreg when a user is
experiencing serious problems.

Turning to TweakUI, v1.33 was written and released for use with Win Me.
TweakUI is perfectly safe, what is not is what a user can do with TweakUI.
g Hence the list of gotchas that Noel posted. Also TweakUI should not
have caused the loss of the Accessories folder in Start | Programs and I
don't actually think it can cause that particular problem nor is TweakUI
the cause of an empty control panel - something that is far more often the
result of unwanted malware.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



ms wrote:

Noel Paton wrote:
System Restore
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=279736

To boot to DOS in ME you have to use a Boot Disk - if you don't have
an ME disk, then download the OEM ME Boot diskmaker from
www.bootdisk.com, run it to create the floppy, then boot from said
floppy.

Thanks for the links. The boot disk will start my recovery process.

I gather that ME does not have the scanreg/restore option, and uses
System Restore?

Did you remember the cautions with TweakUI???

Note - there are a few cautions with TweakUI:-
1) Do *not* change the first icon from "My Documents" on the Desktop
tab 2) Do *not* uncheck: Search Results on the Desktop tab
3) Do *not* hide the Tweak UI icon on the Control Panel tab
4) Do *not* uncheck: Show Control Panel on Start Menu on the IE tab
5) Do *not* uncheck: Shell enhancements on the IE tab
6) To move "My Documents" folder, right-click on the Folder, and
click Properties.

I've used Tweakui in W95/98 for IIRC about 7 years, saved info, never
saw your data above before. Still, I never unchecked "show Control
Panel", or Accessories, etc.

Tweakui did these things in error. On a W98 ng, an expert there never
uses Tweakui, I've never had a problem in W98SE. But I had exactly
what he described when I used it in ME. Is there a safe version of
Tweakui to use in ME?

Thanks again for your help, will report back when I start with the
boot disk.




  #16  
Old May 8th 05, 02:26 PM
Jack E Martinelli
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"Restart Computer in MS-DOS Mode" Option Is Not Available in the Shutdown
Dialog Box"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;262846

How to Prevent a Windows Me/98/95 Logon Prompt at Startup
http://support.microsoft.com/support.../q152/1/04.asp

Description of the Windows Registry Checker Tool (Scanreg.exe)
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;183887
-----

Fix no Control Panel after TweakUI use

Run regedit and navigate to
HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pol icies\Explorer

Find the "NoControlPanel" entry in the right pane and delete it.

--
Tom Porterfield
MS-MVP DTS
http://users.vei.net/tomp/support
----------

This Registry patch will undo what you did and give you the
functioning back. It's from
http://www.aumha.org/regfiles.htm

Always back up your Registry before applying any such patch!

REGEDIT4

;This Registry file restores Control Panel access from Start Menu
"Settings."
;It's primary use is to restore this if you've used TweakUI to remove it.

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explor
er]
"NoControlPanel"=hex:00, 00, 00, 00

Note the regedit4 file must have a blank line at its end.
--
Jim Eshelman
----


And I recommend running all your anti-spyware tools and your AV tool to
confirm that the machine is clean.
And Defrag.
--
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"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
(what Mike said!)

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http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
You can use scanreg /restore with Win Me as you can with Win 98/98SE but
remember this just restores the registry rather than system restore

which
will also restore any modified or deleted system files. IOW system
restore is far more powerful and useful than scanreg when a user is
experiencing serious problems.

Turning to TweakUI, v1.33 was written and released for use with Win Me.
TweakUI is perfectly safe, what is not is what a user can do with

TweakUI.
g Hence the list of gotchas that Noel posted. Also TweakUI should

not
have caused the loss of the Accessories folder in Start | Programs and I
don't actually think it can cause that particular problem nor is TweakUI
the cause of an empty control panel - something that is far more often

the
result of unwanted malware.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



ms wrote:

Noel Paton wrote:
System Restore
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=279736

To boot to DOS in ME you have to use a Boot Disk - if you don't have
an ME disk, then download the OEM ME Boot diskmaker from
www.bootdisk.com, run it to create the floppy, then boot from said
floppy.
Thanks for the links. The boot disk will start my recovery process.

I gather that ME does not have the scanreg/restore option, and uses
System Restore?

Did you remember the cautions with TweakUI???

Note - there are a few cautions with TweakUI:-
1) Do *not* change the first icon from "My Documents" on the Desktop
tab 2) Do *not* uncheck: Search Results on the Desktop tab
3) Do *not* hide the Tweak UI icon on the Control Panel tab
4) Do *not* uncheck: Show Control Panel on Start Menu on the IE tab
5) Do *not* uncheck: Shell enhancements on the IE tab
6) To move "My Documents" folder, right-click on the Folder, and
click Properties.

I've used Tweakui in W95/98 for IIRC about 7 years, saved info, never
saw your data above before. Still, I never unchecked "show Control
Panel", or Accessories, etc.

Tweakui did these things in error. On a W98 ng, an expert there never
uses Tweakui, I've never had a problem in W98SE. But I had exactly
what he described when I used it in ME. Is there a safe version of
Tweakui to use in ME?

Thanks again for your help, will report back when I start with the
boot disk.




  #17  
Old May 8th 05, 11:29 PM
ms
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Jack E Martinelli wrote:
-----

Fix no Control Panel after TweakUI use

Run regedit and navigate to
HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pol icies\Explorer

Find the "NoControlPanel" entry in the right pane and delete it.

This Registry patch will undo what you did and give you the
functioning back. It's from
http://www.aumha.org/regfiles.htm

Always back up your Registry before applying any such patch!

REGEDIT4

;This Registry file restores Control Panel access from Start Menu
"Settings."
;It's primary use is to restore this if you've used TweakUI to remove it.

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explor
er]
"NoControlPanel"=hex:00, 00, 00, 00

Note the regedit4 file must have a blank line at its end.
--
Jim Eshelman
----


And I recommend running all your anti-spyware tools and your AV tool to
confirm that the machine is clean.
And Defrag.


Thanks to ALL for the advice.

An update:
Fix no Control Panel after TweakUI use
Run regedit and navigate to
HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pol icies\Explorer
Find the "NoControlPanel" entry in the right pane and delete it.


Can't do it. Under Control Panel, no entry as above.

This Registry patch will undo what you did and give you the
functioning back. It's from
http://www.aumha.org/regfiles.htm


This worked fine, I have Control Panel back, went back and corrected any
changes from Noel's post.

For some reason, scanreg/ restore would not run- bad command?

So the only remaining issue- I don't have Accessories folder in Start Menu.
It was deleted after settings in Tweakui and reboot, if I did it as a
setting, it's a puzzle.

Anyway, how to get Accessories folder restored? So I can try System Restore.

I tried running System Restore from a command prompt as in the app note,
but I could not edit registry first as indicated, again got "bad command".

TIA
  #18  
Old May 8th 05, 11:41 PM
Mike M
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Two points and a possible solution.
1) The command is SCANREG /RESTORE, note the space between scanreg and
the forward slash.
2) Using TweakUI will not have removed the Accessories folder. TweakUI
does not include such functionality which would involve the deletion of a
folder. TweakUI doesn't delete folders, just make changes to the
registry.

First check that the Accessories folder wasn't accidentally dragged into
another folder on the Start Menu. If not then you will need to rebuild
the folder by recreating the folder Accessories in Windows\Start
Menu\Programs and then populating it with the sub-folders you require such
as System Tools and then making shortcuts to the various utilities and
placing those shortcuts in either the Windows\Start
Menu\Programs\Accessories folder or its sub-folders.

For example the System Tools folder simply contains shortcuts to
applications rather than the application concerned so all that it
necessary, if you cannot find the folder, is to create another and then
populate it with new shortcuts to the various applications concerned.
I've listed below the various entries and the targets for the shortcuts.

The System Tools folder would have included shortcuts to ...
Character Map - C:\Windows\Charmap.exe
Clipboard Viewer - C:\Windows\Clipbrd.exe
Disk Cleanup - C:\Windows\Cleanmgr.exe
Disk Defragmenter - C:\Windows\Defrag.exe
Maintenance Wizard - C:\Windows\Tuneup.exe
Resource Meter - C:\Windows\Rscrmtr.exe
ScanDisk - C:\Windows\Scandskw.exe
Scheduled Tasks - C:\Windows\Explorer.exe
,::{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}\::{D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF}
System Information - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft
Shared\MSInfo\MSInfo32.exe
System Monitor - C:\Windows\Sysmon.exe
System Restore - C:\Windows\\System\Restore\Rstrui.exe

However you do not need the accessories folder to use system restore.
There are several ways of launching system restore other than by using the
missing shortcut in the System Tools folder including:
a) From the link in Help & Support
b) From the link on the General tab of MSConfig (Start, Run, enter
MSConfig and click OK),
c) By entering C:\windows\system\rstrui.exe in the Start | Run box and
clicking OK, or,
d) By directly double clicking the file rstrui.exe (Use Windows Explorer,
rstrui.exe is in the windows\system\restore folder).
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



ms wrote:

Jack E Martinelli wrote:
-----

Fix no Control Panel after TweakUI use

Run regedit and navigate to
HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pol icies\Explorer

Find the "NoControlPanel" entry in the right pane and delete it.

This Registry patch will undo what you did and give you the
functioning back. It's from
http://www.aumha.org/regfiles.htm

Always back up your Registry before applying any such patch!

REGEDIT4

;This Registry file restores Control Panel access from Start Menu
"Settings."
;It's primary use is to restore this if you've used TweakUI to
remove it.
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explor
er]
"NoControlPanel"=hex:00, 00, 00, 00

Note the regedit4 file must have a blank line at its end.
--
Jim Eshelman
----


And I recommend running all your anti-spyware tools and your AV tool
to confirm that the machine is clean.
And Defrag.


Thanks to ALL for the advice.

An update:
Fix no Control Panel after TweakUI use
Run regedit and navigate to
HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pol icies\Explorer
Find the "NoControlPanel" entry in the right pane and delete it.


Can't do it. Under Control Panel, no entry as above.

This Registry patch will undo what you did and give you the
functioning back. It's from
http://www.aumha.org/regfiles.htm


This worked fine, I have Control Panel back, went back and corrected
any changes from Noel's post.

For some reason, scanreg/ restore would not run- bad command?

So the only remaining issue- I don't have Accessories folder in Start
Menu. It was deleted after settings in Tweakui and reboot, if I did
it as a setting, it's a puzzle.

Anyway, how to get Accessories folder restored? So I can try System
Restore.
I tried running System Restore from a command prompt as in the app
note, but I could not edit registry first as indicated, again got
"bad command".
TIA


  #19  
Old May 9th 05, 12:15 AM
ms
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Mike M wrote:
Two points and a possible solution.
1) The command is SCANREG /RESTORE, note the space between scanreg and
the forward slash.
2) Using TweakUI will not have removed the Accessories folder. TweakUI
does not include such functionality which would involve the deletion of
a folder. TweakUI doesn't delete folders, just make changes to the
registry.

First check that the Accessories folder wasn't accidentally dragged into
another folder on the Start Menu. If not then you will need to rebuild
the folder by recreating the folder Accessories in Windows\Start
Menu\Programs and then populating it with the sub-folders you require
such as System Tools and then making shortcuts to the various utilities
and placing those shortcuts in either the Windows\Start
Menu\Programs\Accessories folder or its sub-folders.

For example the System Tools folder simply contains shortcuts to
applications rather than the application concerned so all that it
necessary, if you cannot find the folder, is to create another and then
populate it with new shortcuts to the various applications concerned.
I've listed below the various entries and the targets for the shortcuts.

Thanks Mike. Didn't realize it's just a normal folder that I can create in
the usual way. And I will run System Restore to see about it. Again,
several experts say to dump it.

scanreg:
I typed scanreg... just as in a MS appnote, although I use it frequently in
W98SE. Pretty sure I had it right, but will try again.

Item I forgot to reply to Jack's post, I ran the latest Stinger, it found
nothing. (I assume you folks know about that one?) And used CCleaner to
clean out the garbage from previous owner.

I will fight the password screen, but that's the usual stuff. On my
machines, it has never been easy, and it was caused on this machine after
(I did something ?) I used Tweakui.

Mike S
  #20  
Old May 9th 05, 12:35 AM
Mike M
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Mike,

Those folks who advise you to dump system restore clearly know little of
what they speak. vbg Such is ignorance. :-)

Fight the password screen? What's the problem? Ensure that you are using
Windows Logon rather than Family Logon and use a null password and it will
never trouble you again. Delete the [user],pwl file in the windows
folder, reboot and when asked for a password leave the box blank and click
OK. Do NOT click either Escape or Cancel. You should now never be
troubled by being asked for a password again.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



ms wrote:

Thanks Mike. Didn't realize it's just a normal folder that I can
create in the usual way. And I will run System Restore to see about
it. Again, several experts say to dump it.

scanreg:
I typed scanreg... just as in a MS appnote, although I use it
frequently in W98SE. Pretty sure I had it right, but will try again.

Item I forgot to reply to Jack's post, I ran the latest Stinger, it
found nothing. (I assume you folks know about that one?) And used
CCleaner to clean out the garbage from previous owner.

I will fight the password screen, but that's the usual stuff. On my
machines, it has never been easy, and it was caused on this machine
after (I did something ?) I used Tweakui.


 




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