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WinME memory limit
Hi everyone
I will be "destroying" 2 PCs to build a "new" one the final result will be: Abit BP6 with 2 Celeron 500Mhz processors, 640 MB Ram, ATA66 integrated + ATA133 Promise PCI card. ATI All-in-Wonder 128 (Rage chipset) 32 MB AGP video card. 3 HD, 1 x 4.3 gb (C: WinME + progs), 1 x 80 gb (Data), 1 x 20 gb (E: Win XPpro + progs) I already have all the drivers that I'll need for both OS. It will be dual boot and my question concerns the WinME part. I understand that it will use only one processor but I've heard that Win 98 and ME have problems with memory above 512 MB and there need to be some command(s) added somewhere (.ini files?). It will be the first time I run ME above 384 MB RAM. Anyone could guide me in the right direction? TIA Dominique |
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Win Me, like all Win 9x operating systems, can support and use up to 2GB
of memory although there are a number of caveats and exceptions to that details of which are contained in the following Microsoft Knowledge Base articles with the first essential reading where more than 512MB of memory is installed. For more details see: MS KB 253912 - ""Out of Memory" Error Messages with Large Amounts of RAM Installed" (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=253912). The reason is that allocating more than 512MB of RAM to vcache will exhaust all available upper memory addresses and thus prevent them being used for other purposes. This problem is easily fixed as follows: To limit vcache, open system.ini and add the lines [VCache] MaxFileCache=512000 Note that this will still mean that all memory is available to applications but is simply limiting the amount used as virtual cache memory. MS KB 296773 - "Computer May Not Hibernate with More Than 192 MB of Memory" (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=296773). This makes reference to an updated file vmm.vxd. Unfortunately due to Win Me being out of support this file can no longer be obtained from Microsoft. MS KB 304943 - "Computer May Reboot Continuously with More Than 1.5 GB of RAM" (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=304943). -- Mike Maltby DG wrote: Hi everyone I will be "destroying" 2 PCs to build a "new" one the final result will be: Abit BP6 with 2 Celeron 500Mhz processors, 640 MB Ram, ATA66 integrated + ATA133 Promise PCI card. ATI All-in-Wonder 128 (Rage chipset) 32 MB AGP video card. 3 HD, 1 x 4.3 gb (C: WinME + progs), 1 x 80 gb (Data), 1 x 20 gb (E: Win XPpro + progs) I already have all the drivers that I'll need for both OS. It will be dual boot and my question concerns the WinME part. I understand that it will use only one processor but I've heard that Win 98 and ME have problems with memory above 512 MB and there need to be some command(s) added somewhere (.ini files?). It will be the first time I run ME above 384 MB RAM. Anyone could guide me in the right direction? TIA Dominique |
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Thank you for your answer, since I don't use hibernate on this one (I
think) and most of the time, it will be running XPpro, I will probably begin the "destruction" soon now. Thanks again, Dominique "Mike M" écrivait : Win Me, like all Win 9x operating systems, can support and use up to 2GB of memory although there are a number of caveats and exceptions to that details of which are contained in the following Microsoft Knowledge Base articles with the first essential reading where more than 512MB of memory is installed. For more details see: MS KB 253912 - ""Out of Memory" Error Messages with Large Amounts of RAM Installed" (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=253912). The reason is that allocating more than 512MB of RAM to vcache will exhaust all available upper memory addresses and thus prevent them being used for other purposes. This problem is easily fixed as follows: To limit vcache, open system.ini and add the lines [VCache] MaxFileCache=512000 Note that this will still mean that all memory is available to applications but is simply limiting the amount used as virtual cache memory. MS KB 296773 - "Computer May Not Hibernate with More Than 192 MB of Memory" (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=296773). This makes reference to an updated file vmm.vxd. Unfortunately due to Win Me being out of support this file can no longer be obtained from Microsoft. MS KB 304943 - "Computer May Reboot Continuously with More Than 1.5 GB of RAM" (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=304943). |
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On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:08:57 -0700, DG wrote:
It will be dual boot and my question concerns the WinME part. I understand that it will use only one processor but I've heard that Win 98 and ME have problems with memory above 512 MB and there need to be some command(s) added somewhere (.ini files?). It will be the first time I run ME above 384 MB RAM. I am running ME on my 3.4 gHz box with 768 mb memory without any problem. I have heard earlier that problems arise only if you have more than this and needs vcache trick. HTH Thanks for your time and attention ClueLess |
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You're living on the edge if you have 764MB of RAM and haven't limited
vcache as explained in MS KB 253912 - ""Out of Memory" Error Messages with Large Amounts of RAM Installed" (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=253912). HTH Not really as IMO opinion it is bad practice to try and run with 768MB of RAM and not limit vcache and this is likely to cause regular "out of memory" errors. That you manage to have none is fortunate but others are unlikely to be so lucky. -- Mike Maltby ClueLess wrote: I am running ME on my 3.4 gHz box with 768 mb memory without any problem. I have heard earlier that problems arise only if you have more than this and needs vcache trick. HTH Thanks for your time and attention ClueLess |
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I use Windows Me in a dual-boot system (actually quadruple-boot but
never mind) on a computer that has 2GB of RAM, with the following lines added to system.ini [386Enh] ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1 MaxPhysPage=40000 [vcache] MaxFileCache=524288 The [vcache] line is necessary, as explained by the other posters, I don't quite remember why the ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1 and MaxPhysPage=40000 limits the memory used by Windows Me to 1GB. I've read that things can get unstable above that, I never tried but why take the chance? Having more than 1 GB of RAM available to Windows Me won't make it happier anyway. On Apr 12, 1:08�pm, DG wrote: Hi everyone I will be "destroying" 2 PCs to build a "new" one the final result will be: Abit BP6 with 2 Celeron 500Mhz processors, 640 MB Ram, ATA66 integrated + ATA133 Promise PCI card. ATI All-in-Wonder 128 (Rage chipset) 32 MB AGP video card. 3 HD, 1 x 4.3 gb (C: WinME + progs), 1 x 80 gb (Data), 1 x 20 gb (E: Win XPpro + progs) I already have all the drivers that I'll need for both OS. It will be dual boot and my question concerns the WinME part. I understand that it will use only one processor but I've heard that Win 98 and ME have problems with memory above 512 MB and there need to be some command(s) added somewhere (.ini files?). It will be the first time I run ME above 384 MB RAM. Anyone could guide me in the right direction? TIA Dominique |
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:48:45 +0100, "Mike M"
wrote: Not really as IMO opinion it is bad practice to try and run with 768MB of RAM and not limit vcache and this is likely to cause regular "out of memory" errors. That you manage to have none is fortunate but others are unlikely to be so lucky. In addition I have also ConservativeSwapFileUsage=1 in the system.ini file. I never ever had any out of memory problems, no BSOD etc Thanks for your time and attention ClueLess |
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ClueLess wrote:
Not really as IMO opinion it is bad practice to try and run with 768MB of RAM and not limit vcache and this is likely to cause regular "out of memory" errors. That you manage to have none is fortunate but others are unlikely to be so lucky. In addition I have also ConservativeSwapFileUsage=1 in the system.ini file. Why don't you run Win 95 whilst your at it? I never ever had any out of memory problems, no BSOD etc Not really surprising if you are using ConservativeSwapFileUsage=1 since you are unnecessarily throttling your PC. I can only assume that you like to live up to the name you have chosen for yourself. -- Mike Maltby |
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ROFL!! Just came on here and saw this "Sir Michael Gem".....you are
quite obviously more hilarious and wittier at 3 am than noon time. LOL!! Love that British sense of humour...... Get to bed, young man!! XX Figgs "Mike M" wrote in message ... ClueLess wrote: Not really as IMO opinion it is bad practice to try and run with 768MB of RAM and not limit vcache and this is likely to cause regular "out of memory" errors. That you manage to have none is fortunate but others are unlikely to be so lucky. In addition I have also ConservativeSwapFileUsage=1 in the system.ini file. Why don't you run Win 95 whilst your at it? I never ever had any out of memory problems, no BSOD etc Not really surprising if you are using ConservativeSwapFileUsage=1 since you are unnecessarily throttling your PC. I can only assume that you like to live up to the name you have chosen for yourself. -- Mike Maltby |
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