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  #11  
Old August 17th 08, 01:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.win95.general.discussion,microsoft.public.win98.general.discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default problems with 32.dll when loading drivers

In message , Gary S. Terhune
writes
No, I meant a group who could truly understand the nuances of your butchery,
you know, one that SPECIALIZES in 98Lite.

Or aren't there enough of you to warrant that?

I've been using 98lite for years, and in general have found little to
denigrate it - and frequently felt that it has saved me from things that
using the '98 shell would have subjected me to.

No, I can't give any specific examples at this very moment.

If you feel so strongly that it renders the priests of purity liable to
be tainted, then please feel free to ignore any threads in which I ever
mention it. Some of them might even dare to speak for themselves ...

Leaving aside our own personal feud, does anyone else out there have any
positive suggestions as to what might be the cure for my problem with
loading drivers?

(Incidentally, I have tried switching back to the "chubby" - I think it
is - version, the one that uses the '98 shell, which didn't make the
problem go away.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on PCs. **

"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my
shoulders."
Newton [deliberately] misquoted by Hal Ableson, then quoted by chris harrison.
  #12  
Old August 17th 08, 01:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.win95.general.discussion,microsoft.public.win98.general.discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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Posts: 2,158
Default problems with 32.dll when loading drivers

Nevermind, they were just hiding.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
Wow! This Win95 room is downright drafty. When's the last time a maid was
in here to clear out the cobwebs?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
No, I meant a group who could truly understand the nuances of your
butchery, you know, one that SPECIALIZES in 98Lite.

Or aren't there enough of you to warrant that?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
In message , Gary S. Terhune
writes
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
'95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option.

Then you're not running Windows 98. Please go find a more appropriate

I have - the '95 one. They're friendly.

newsgroup. I presume "98Lite" has it's own well-staffed and informative
communinty forum or other support. Oh... It doesn't? In fact, unless you
BUY
the professional edition, there's no support at all? Guess you're SOL.

I have found (especially on the '95 group) plenty of people to help me,
and whom I can help, with various things. I've even helped people in the
'98 one. I acknowledge your right to hold the views you do about 98lite
(and soporific's work - I'm closer to you on that, though we don't
actually converge).

And please note that there is no such newsgroup as
microsoft.public.win98.general.discussion

I cut and pasted that from somewhere, rather than making it up.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985
MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on
PCs. **

"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing
on my
shoulders."
Newton [deliberately] misquoted by Hal Ableson, then quoted by chris
harrison.







  #13  
Old August 17th 08, 01:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.win95.general.discussion,microsoft.public.win98.general.discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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Posts: 2,158
Default problems with 32.dll when loading drivers

Nevermind, they were just hiding.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
Wow! This Win95 room is downright drafty. When's the last time a maid was
in here to clear out the cobwebs?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
No, I meant a group who could truly understand the nuances of your
butchery, you know, one that SPECIALIZES in 98Lite.

Or aren't there enough of you to warrant that?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
In message , Gary S. Terhune
writes
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
'95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option.

Then you're not running Windows 98. Please go find a more appropriate

I have - the '95 one. They're friendly.

newsgroup. I presume "98Lite" has it's own well-staffed and informative
communinty forum or other support. Oh... It doesn't? In fact, unless you
BUY
the professional edition, there's no support at all? Guess you're SOL.

I have found (especially on the '95 group) plenty of people to help me,
and whom I can help, with various things. I've even helped people in the
'98 one. I acknowledge your right to hold the views you do about 98lite
(and soporific's work - I'm closer to you on that, though we don't
actually converge).

And please note that there is no such newsgroup as
microsoft.public.win98.general.discussion

I cut and pasted that from somewhere, rather than making it up.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985
MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on
PCs. **

"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing
on my
shoulders."
Newton [deliberately] misquoted by Hal Ableson, then quoted by chris
harrison.







  #14  
Old August 17th 08, 01:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.win95.general.discussion,microsoft.public.win98.general.discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
J. P. Gilliver (John)
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,554
Default problems with 32.dll when loading drivers

In message , Gary S. Terhune
writes
Wow! This Win95 room is downright drafty. When's the last time a maid was in
here to clear out the cobwebs?

Someone from another room is now standing in the doorway growling at
anyone who comes near ... (-: [Actually, I've found it a friendly and
helpful 'group.]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on PCs. **

"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my
shoulders."
Newton [deliberately] misquoted by Hal Ableson, then quoted by chris harrison.
  #15  
Old August 17th 08, 01:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.win95.general.discussion,microsoft.public.win98.general.discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
J. P. Gilliver (John)
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,554
Default problems with 32.dll when loading drivers

In message , Gary S. Terhune
writes
Wow! This Win95 room is downright drafty. When's the last time a maid was in
here to clear out the cobwebs?

Someone from another room is now standing in the doorway growling at
anyone who comes near ... (-: [Actually, I've found it a friendly and
helpful 'group.]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on PCs. **

"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my
shoulders."
Newton [deliberately] misquoted by Hal Ableson, then quoted by chris harrison.
  #16  
Old August 17th 08, 01:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.win95.general.discussion,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
J. P. Gilliver (John)
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,554
Default problems apparently with rundll32 when loading drivers

With apologies for the repost - one positive outcome of the first one
was that I discovered that what I thought was a valid cut-and-paste
wasn't: for some reason the two surviving newsgroups have slightly
different punctuations in their name.

(Positive suggestions only, please - the details of my problem have been
lost in the heat on the other thread, and please post to that one if
your only contribution is to say I'm in the wrong place!)

In message , "J. P. Gilliver
(John)" writes
'95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option.

I recently had a play with soporific's UBCD, a. k. a. "Windows 98, 10th
anniversary edition". I think a vast amount of work has gone into it,
and when installed from scratch as I did on a laptop for a friend, it
worked well (including the universal USB driver).

However, as with many such things, trying to install over an existing
system (even though it does include an option to do so) is more
problematical.

Anyway: I've finally got my original system back, due to use of some
ERDs from before I tried it, with one exception (that I know so far,
anyway): it initially manifested as the sound, but I think is more
fundamental.

My sound isn't working. I've obtained the drivers from the manufacturer
(A??? motherboard; "Realtek AC'97 Audio"), since I couldn't find the
mobo CD.

Device Manager shows it, with a black-on-yellow "!". Properties shows
under Device status "The NTKERN.VXD, MMDEVLDR.VXD device loader(s) for
this device could not load the device driver. (Code 2.)\\To Fix this,
click Update Driver to update the device driver." When I do, I get the
usual wizard. Whether I let this look for the right driver (they're
sort of in place, the install software having done its stuff to that
extent, or I unzipped something, I can't remember) or I tell it where
to look, I get to the "Please wait while Windows searches ...", then I
get a - old-fashioned style, no close button - window in screen middle
that says "Rundll32\\An error has occurred in your program. To keep
working anyway..." and Close and Ignore buttons. If I click Ignore,
nothing happens; Close brings up a (Windows style this time) "This
program has performed an illegal ..." with Close and Details buttons.
If I close this, all windows (back to and including Device Manger) disappear.

If I remove the Realtek from Device Manager and restart, I get found
new hardware, with various windows appearing as normal, then it locks
up (I can't remember with what error message): if I Ctrl-alt-Del at
that point, I can get back to a blank desktop (no icons or taskbar,
just a mouse pointer). The only way out of that (it happens again if I
restart) is to use the old ERD again.

My Rundll32 file is fine (I never suspected it anyway, as it usually
gets "blamed" when something else goes wrong, but I have checked it).

I get something similar when trying to install another piece of
hardware (a microscope - i. e. basically a camera - and I am doing it
according to the instructions, i. e. drivers before connecting):
_something_ crashes, at the point after it's "found" the new hardware
and is doing whatever it does next at that point.

Any suggestions what is wrong and how to fix it? (Getting sound back
would be a start, but I suspect that needs the problem solving anyway.)

[It may not be UBCD that screwed things up, but I know at least one
poster who will think it did ... (-:]


--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on PCs. **

"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my
shoulders."
Newton [deliberately] misquoted by Hal Ableson, then quoted by chris harrison.
  #17  
Old August 17th 08, 01:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.win95.general.discussion,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
J. P. Gilliver (John)
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,554
Default problems apparently with rundll32 when loading drivers

With apologies for the repost - one positive outcome of the first one
was that I discovered that what I thought was a valid cut-and-paste
wasn't: for some reason the two surviving newsgroups have slightly
different punctuations in their name.

(Positive suggestions only, please - the details of my problem have been
lost in the heat on the other thread, and please post to that one if
your only contribution is to say I'm in the wrong place!)

In message , "J. P. Gilliver
(John)" writes
'95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option.

I recently had a play with soporific's UBCD, a. k. a. "Windows 98, 10th
anniversary edition". I think a vast amount of work has gone into it,
and when installed from scratch as I did on a laptop for a friend, it
worked well (including the universal USB driver).

However, as with many such things, trying to install over an existing
system (even though it does include an option to do so) is more
problematical.

Anyway: I've finally got my original system back, due to use of some
ERDs from before I tried it, with one exception (that I know so far,
anyway): it initially manifested as the sound, but I think is more
fundamental.

My sound isn't working. I've obtained the drivers from the manufacturer
(A??? motherboard; "Realtek AC'97 Audio"), since I couldn't find the
mobo CD.

Device Manager shows it, with a black-on-yellow "!". Properties shows
under Device status "The NTKERN.VXD, MMDEVLDR.VXD device loader(s) for
this device could not load the device driver. (Code 2.)\\To Fix this,
click Update Driver to update the device driver." When I do, I get the
usual wizard. Whether I let this look for the right driver (they're
sort of in place, the install software having done its stuff to that
extent, or I unzipped something, I can't remember) or I tell it where
to look, I get to the "Please wait while Windows searches ...", then I
get a - old-fashioned style, no close button - window in screen middle
that says "Rundll32\\An error has occurred in your program. To keep
working anyway..." and Close and Ignore buttons. If I click Ignore,
nothing happens; Close brings up a (Windows style this time) "This
program has performed an illegal ..." with Close and Details buttons.
If I close this, all windows (back to and including Device Manger) disappear.

If I remove the Realtek from Device Manager and restart, I get found
new hardware, with various windows appearing as normal, then it locks
up (I can't remember with what error message): if I Ctrl-alt-Del at
that point, I can get back to a blank desktop (no icons or taskbar,
just a mouse pointer). The only way out of that (it happens again if I
restart) is to use the old ERD again.

My Rundll32 file is fine (I never suspected it anyway, as it usually
gets "blamed" when something else goes wrong, but I have checked it).

I get something similar when trying to install another piece of
hardware (a microscope - i. e. basically a camera - and I am doing it
according to the instructions, i. e. drivers before connecting):
_something_ crashes, at the point after it's "found" the new hardware
and is doing whatever it does next at that point.

Any suggestions what is wrong and how to fix it? (Getting sound back
would be a start, but I suspect that needs the problem solving anyway.)

[It may not be UBCD that screwed things up, but I know at least one
poster who will think it did ... (-:]


--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on PCs. **

"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my
shoulders."
Newton [deliberately] misquoted by Hal Ableson, then quoted by chris harrison.
  #18  
Old August 17th 08, 02:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.win95.general.discussion,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
MEB[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,626
Default problems apparently with rundll32 when loading drivers

Try using Safe Mode to remove ALL old drivers [any sound or problem
devices].

Look at the installation files in the folder from which you installed the
purported driver [look at the inf{s}], make note of registry entries created
and where files were placed and names.
Run regedit, search for the RealTek entries and remove - search the INF
folder for the Realtek INF{s} and delete - remove all files that were
installed as shown by the install INFs.

LOCATE a better driver... check to ensure the card is properly seated,
install the new driver....

When using an unofficial updater its usually best to install devices
[except USB/Firewire] and applications PRIOR to installing/updating with the
compilation.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________



"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
| With apologies for the repost - one positive outcome of the first one
| was that I discovered that what I thought was a valid cut-and-paste
| wasn't: for some reason the two surviving newsgroups have slightly
| different punctuations in their name.
|
| (Positive suggestions only, please - the details of my problem have been
| lost in the heat on the other thread, and please post to that one if
| your only contribution is to say I'm in the wrong place!)
|
| In message , "J. P. Gilliver
| (John)" writes
| '95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option.
|
| I recently had a play with soporific's UBCD, a. k. a. "Windows 98, 10th
| anniversary edition". I think a vast amount of work has gone into it,
| and when installed from scratch as I did on a laptop for a friend, it
| worked well (including the universal USB driver).
|
| However, as with many such things, trying to install over an existing
| system (even though it does include an option to do so) is more
| problematical.
|
| Anyway: I've finally got my original system back, due to use of some
| ERDs from before I tried it, with one exception (that I know so far,
| anyway): it initially manifested as the sound, but I think is more
| fundamental.
|
| My sound isn't working. I've obtained the drivers from the manufacturer
| (A??? motherboard; "Realtek AC'97 Audio"), since I couldn't find the
| mobo CD.
|
| Device Manager shows it, with a black-on-yellow "!". Properties shows
| under Device status "The NTKERN.VXD, MMDEVLDR.VXD device loader(s) for
| this device could not load the device driver. (Code 2.)\\To Fix this,
| click Update Driver to update the device driver." When I do, I get the
| usual wizard. Whether I let this look for the right driver (they're
| sort of in place, the install software having done its stuff to that
| extent, or I unzipped something, I can't remember) or I tell it where
| to look, I get to the "Please wait while Windows searches ...", then I
| get a - old-fashioned style, no close button - window in screen middle
| that says "Rundll32\\An error has occurred in your program. To keep
| working anyway..." and Close and Ignore buttons. If I click Ignore,
| nothing happens; Close brings up a (Windows style this time) "This
| program has performed an illegal ..." with Close and Details buttons.
| If I close this, all windows (back to and including Device Manger)
disappear.
|
| If I remove the Realtek from Device Manager and restart, I get found
| new hardware, with various windows appearing as normal, then it locks
| up (I can't remember with what error message): if I Ctrl-alt-Del at
| that point, I can get back to a blank desktop (no icons or taskbar,
| just a mouse pointer). The only way out of that (it happens again if I
| restart) is to use the old ERD again.
|
| My Rundll32 file is fine (I never suspected it anyway, as it usually
| gets "blamed" when something else goes wrong, but I have checked it).
|
| I get something similar when trying to install another piece of
| hardware (a microscope - i. e. basically a camera - and I am doing it
| according to the instructions, i. e. drivers before connecting):
| _something_ crashes, at the point after it's "found" the new hardware
| and is doing whatever it does next at that point.
|
| Any suggestions what is wrong and how to fix it? (Getting sound back
| would be a start, but I suspect that needs the problem solving anyway.)
|
| [It may not be UBCD that screwed things up, but I know at least one
| poster who will think it did ... (-:]
|
| --
| J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985
MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
| ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on
PCs. **
|
| "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing
on my
| shoulders."
| Newton [deliberately] misquoted by Hal Ableson, then quoted by chris
harrison.



  #19  
Old August 17th 08, 02:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.win95.general.discussion,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
MEB[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,626
Default problems apparently with rundll32 when loading drivers

Try using Safe Mode to remove ALL old drivers [any sound or problem
devices].

Look at the installation files in the folder from which you installed the
purported driver [look at the inf{s}], make note of registry entries created
and where files were placed and names.
Run regedit, search for the RealTek entries and remove - search the INF
folder for the Realtek INF{s} and delete - remove all files that were
installed as shown by the install INFs.

LOCATE a better driver... check to ensure the card is properly seated,
install the new driver....

When using an unofficial updater its usually best to install devices
[except USB/Firewire] and applications PRIOR to installing/updating with the
compilation.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________



"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
| With apologies for the repost - one positive outcome of the first one
| was that I discovered that what I thought was a valid cut-and-paste
| wasn't: for some reason the two surviving newsgroups have slightly
| different punctuations in their name.
|
| (Positive suggestions only, please - the details of my problem have been
| lost in the heat on the other thread, and please post to that one if
| your only contribution is to say I'm in the wrong place!)
|
| In message , "J. P. Gilliver
| (John)" writes
| '95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option.
|
| I recently had a play with soporific's UBCD, a. k. a. "Windows 98, 10th
| anniversary edition". I think a vast amount of work has gone into it,
| and when installed from scratch as I did on a laptop for a friend, it
| worked well (including the universal USB driver).
|
| However, as with many such things, trying to install over an existing
| system (even though it does include an option to do so) is more
| problematical.
|
| Anyway: I've finally got my original system back, due to use of some
| ERDs from before I tried it, with one exception (that I know so far,
| anyway): it initially manifested as the sound, but I think is more
| fundamental.
|
| My sound isn't working. I've obtained the drivers from the manufacturer
| (A??? motherboard; "Realtek AC'97 Audio"), since I couldn't find the
| mobo CD.
|
| Device Manager shows it, with a black-on-yellow "!". Properties shows
| under Device status "The NTKERN.VXD, MMDEVLDR.VXD device loader(s) for
| this device could not load the device driver. (Code 2.)\\To Fix this,
| click Update Driver to update the device driver." When I do, I get the
| usual wizard. Whether I let this look for the right driver (they're
| sort of in place, the install software having done its stuff to that
| extent, or I unzipped something, I can't remember) or I tell it where
| to look, I get to the "Please wait while Windows searches ...", then I
| get a - old-fashioned style, no close button - window in screen middle
| that says "Rundll32\\An error has occurred in your program. To keep
| working anyway..." and Close and Ignore buttons. If I click Ignore,
| nothing happens; Close brings up a (Windows style this time) "This
| program has performed an illegal ..." with Close and Details buttons.
| If I close this, all windows (back to and including Device Manger)
disappear.
|
| If I remove the Realtek from Device Manager and restart, I get found
| new hardware, with various windows appearing as normal, then it locks
| up (I can't remember with what error message): if I Ctrl-alt-Del at
| that point, I can get back to a blank desktop (no icons or taskbar,
| just a mouse pointer). The only way out of that (it happens again if I
| restart) is to use the old ERD again.
|
| My Rundll32 file is fine (I never suspected it anyway, as it usually
| gets "blamed" when something else goes wrong, but I have checked it).
|
| I get something similar when trying to install another piece of
| hardware (a microscope - i. e. basically a camera - and I am doing it
| according to the instructions, i. e. drivers before connecting):
| _something_ crashes, at the point after it's "found" the new hardware
| and is doing whatever it does next at that point.
|
| Any suggestions what is wrong and how to fix it? (Getting sound back
| would be a start, but I suspect that needs the problem solving anyway.)
|
| [It may not be UBCD that screwed things up, but I know at least one
| poster who will think it did ... (-:]
|
| --
| J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985
MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
| ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on
PCs. **
|
| "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing
on my
| shoulders."
| Newton [deliberately] misquoted by Hal Ableson, then quoted by chris
harrison.



  #20  
Old August 17th 08, 09:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.win95.general.discussion,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 2,158
Default problems apparently with rundll32 when loading drivers

"...after installing a new, breed of 98Lite." You really need to fix that
Subject.

Here's the most positive advice I can give you. If you have problems with
that cross-bred child of Windows and Linux, you not only do yourself a
disservice by not dealing with them in a forum dedicated to the topic, you
also do a great disservice to the average Joe or Jane who goes searching for
procedures for their stock Windows 98 machines and happens onto this thread
half way through, sees the subject, sees a bunch of procedures that appear
to apply to his situation, and which (with any luck) do end up working for
you, but which don't apply to his machine in the slightest and which in fact
do his system a great deal of harm.

The least you could do, if you're going to *hijack* a newsgroup like this,
would be to make it clear what you're talking about in the Subject.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
With apologies for the repost - one positive outcome of the first one was
that I discovered that what I thought was a valid cut-and-paste wasn't:
for some reason the two surviving newsgroups have slightly different
punctuations in their name.

(Positive suggestions only, please - the details of my problem have been
lost in the heat on the other thread, and please post to that one if your
only contribution is to say I'm in the wrong place!)

In message , "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
writes
'95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option.

I recently had a play with soporific's UBCD, a. k. a. "Windows 98, 10th
anniversary edition". I think a vast amount of work has gone into it, and
when installed from scratch as I did on a laptop for a friend, it worked
well (including the universal USB driver).

However, as with many such things, trying to install over an existing
system (even though it does include an option to do so) is more
problematical.

Anyway: I've finally got my original system back, due to use of some ERDs
from before I tried it, with one exception (that I know so far, anyway):
it initially manifested as the sound, but I think is more fundamental.

My sound isn't working. I've obtained the drivers from the manufacturer
(A??? motherboard; "Realtek AC'97 Audio"), since I couldn't find the mobo
CD.

Device Manager shows it, with a black-on-yellow "!". Properties shows
under Device status "The NTKERN.VXD, MMDEVLDR.VXD device loader(s) for
this device could not load the device driver. (Code 2.)\\To Fix this,
click Update Driver to update the device driver." When I do, I get the
usual wizard. Whether I let this look for the right driver (they're sort
of in place, the install software having done its stuff to that extent, or
I unzipped something, I can't remember) or I tell it where to look, I get
to the "Please wait while Windows searches ...", then I get a -
old-fashioned style, no close button - window in screen middle that says
"Rundll32\\An error has occurred in your program. To keep working
anyway..." and Close and Ignore buttons. If I click Ignore, nothing
happens; Close brings up a (Windows style this time) "This program has
performed an illegal ..." with Close and Details buttons. If I close
this, all windows (back to and including Device Manger) disappear.

If I remove the Realtek from Device Manager and restart, I get found new
hardware, with various windows appearing as normal, then it locks up (I
can't remember with what error message): if I Ctrl-alt-Del at that point,
I can get back to a blank desktop (no icons or taskbar, just a mouse
pointer). The only way out of that (it happens again if I restart) is to
use the old ERD again.

My Rundll32 file is fine (I never suspected it anyway, as it usually gets
"blamed" when something else goes wrong, but I have checked it).

I get something similar when trying to install another piece of hardware
(a microscope - i. e. basically a camera - and I am doing it according to
the instructions, i. e. drivers before connecting): _something_ crashes,
at the point after it's "found" the new hardware and is doing whatever it
does next at that point.

Any suggestions what is wrong and how to fix it? (Getting sound back would
be a start, but I suspect that needs the problem solving anyway.)

[It may not be UBCD that screwed things up, but I know at least one poster
who will think it did ... (-:]


--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985
MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on
PCs. **

"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing
on my
shoulders."
Newton [deliberately] misquoted by Hal Ableson, then quoted by chris
harrison.



 




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