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  #101  
Old July 13th 07, 03:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.disks.general
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Default Hard drive larger then 120GB question

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"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
ssome wrote:

Can you offer any help here?

my scandskw is 4-23-99 where can i find a better one?
defrag is Me 9-12-03


I'm not sure about your version of defrag (9/12/03). Maybe someone
else can confirm that there was such an updated version for ME - or
not.

I have uploaded some files to fileden.com as follows:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...3604/fdisk.ex_
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...604/defrag.ex_
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/.../diskmaint.dl_
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/scandskw.ex_

I had to rename them from .exe to .ex_ (and from .dll to .dl_) for
fileden to accept them.

Download those files, and rename them to .exe and .dll.

fdisk.ex_ updated version of fdisk.exe (for windows 98/me)
defrag.ex_ Windows ME version of defrag.exe
diskmaint.dl_ Windows ME version of diskmaint.dll
scandskw.ex_ Windows ME version of scandskw.exe

Also:

I attached a brand-new 250 gb WD SATA hard drive to my Asrock
motherboard, booted a win-98 floppy into DOS, and ran fdisk. (note:
I made sure that himem.sys was loaded as part of the boot. Maybe it's
necessary, maybe it's not.)

I created a single primary partition using all available space on the
drive (I didn't check the details as to what fdisk thinks is the
entire drive capacity).

I then ran format, with the /z:n switch as follows:

format /z:8 c: /s (format the drive with 4kb cluster size)

I got this message:

"you have specified a cluster size that is too small for
this drive. Use a larger cluster size and try again"

I then tried this: format /z:12 c: /s

and got this:

"Parameter value not in allowed range - /z:12

I then tried format /z:16 c:/s and got the "cluster size too small"
message. Same thing with /z:32.

I tried /z:48 and got the "not in allowed range" error. I then tried
/z:64 and it worked.

"Formatting 41,86.65M"

That's when I left the computer (running at my office). I wasn't
going to hang around for an hour while it formatted the drive. I'll
check back later today and see how it finished the job.

Conclusion: The /z:n format switch is a piece of **** and other tools
must be used to perform a custom format job with a more rational
cluster size.



  #102  
Old July 13th 07, 01:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.disks.general
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Default Hard drive larger then 120GB question

ssome wrote:

File Not Found


http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...3604/fdisk.ex_
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...604/defrag.ex_
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/.../diskmaint.dl_
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/scandskw.ex_


They are there.

When you copy or click on the above links, note that there is a "_" at
the end of each file name.

Like this:

/files/2007/5/26/1113604/fdisk.ex_

Maybe you're not seeing that or copying it correctly.
  #103  
Old July 13th 07, 01:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.disks.general
98 Guy
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Default Hard drive larger then 120GB question

ssome wrote:

File Not Found


http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...3604/fdisk.ex_
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...604/defrag.ex_
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/.../diskmaint.dl_
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/scandskw.ex_


They are there.

When you copy or click on the above links, note that there is a "_" at
the end of each file name.

Like this:

/files/2007/5/26/1113604/fdisk.ex_

Maybe you're not seeing that or copying it correctly.
  #104  
Old July 21st 07, 12:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.disks.general
ssome
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Default Hard drive larger then 120GB question

short of getting the 48bit LBA to handle the space above 137GB, win 2000
and up.
WD site has a DOS and Win98 free s/w for their 137GB win 98 customers.
get dlgsetup11_win.zip
it handles fdisk, format and partitioning easily if win 98 is up and running
on another HD
use the DOS ver of this file for a new HD in a new computer.
don't forget to get the ATA100/133 disk drive controller card, PCI, $19, to
plug the 4 ea 137 HDs into.

with the new MSoft fdisk, i was able to fdisk the whole 250. or, you need
to cut it back to create an extended and then logical drives to create
partitions.

the WD s/w does it all easily, just select the additional drive that is not
the boot drive, select Partitions and move a slide bar to get the size of
your first partition, clik on Add Partition to create more partitions and
move the slide again. i created 2 ea 125GB partitions.
all is well as i can now scandisk and defrag the partitions where i could
not use these MSoft utils on the whole 250 GB HD.

i can live with 120 GB HDs, many of them. hope this helps

ssome

"ssome" wrote in message
...
File Not Found


"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
ssome wrote:

Can you offer any help here?

my scandskw is 4-23-99 where can i find a better one?
defrag is Me 9-12-03


I'm not sure about your version of defrag (9/12/03). Maybe someone
else can confirm that there was such an updated version for ME - or
not.

I have uploaded some files to fileden.com as follows:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...3604/fdisk.ex_
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...604/defrag.ex_
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/.../diskmaint.dl_
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/scandskw.ex_

I had to rename them from .exe to .ex_ (and from .dll to .dl_) for
fileden to accept them.

Download those files, and rename them to .exe and .dll.

fdisk.ex_ updated version of fdisk.exe (for windows 98/me)
defrag.ex_ Windows ME version of defrag.exe
diskmaint.dl_ Windows ME version of diskmaint.dll
scandskw.ex_ Windows ME version of scandskw.exe

Also:

I attached a brand-new 250 gb WD SATA hard drive to my Asrock
motherboard, booted a win-98 floppy into DOS, and ran fdisk. (note:
I made sure that himem.sys was loaded as part of the boot. Maybe it's
necessary, maybe it's not.)

I created a single primary partition using all available space on the
drive (I didn't check the details as to what fdisk thinks is the
entire drive capacity).

I then ran format, with the /z:n switch as follows:

format /z:8 c: /s (format the drive with 4kb cluster size)

I got this message:

"you have specified a cluster size that is too small for
this drive. Use a larger cluster size and try again"

I then tried this: format /z:12 c: /s

and got this:

"Parameter value not in allowed range - /z:12

I then tried format /z:16 c:/s and got the "cluster size too small"
message. Same thing with /z:32.

I tried /z:48 and got the "not in allowed range" error. I then tried
/z:64 and it worked.

"Formatting 41,86.65M"

That's when I left the computer (running at my office). I wasn't
going to hang around for an hour while it formatted the drive. I'll
check back later today and see how it finished the job.

Conclusion: The /z:n format switch is a piece of **** and other tools
must be used to perform a custom format job with a more rational
cluster size.





  #105  
Old July 24th 07, 05:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.disks.general
ssome
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Default Hard drive larger then 120GB question

The next logical step was to see if the WD s/w for 137GB will work on
other mfgrs HDs. i tried it on a Maxtor 30 GB HD by partitioning it into 2
parts. It worked. It did give a disclaimer about a diff mfgr when i
selected the HD to be worked on.

ssome

"ssome" wrote in message
...
File Not Found


"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
ssome wrote:

Can you offer any help here?

my scandskw is 4-23-99 where can i find a better one?
defrag is Me 9-12-03


I'm not sure about your version of defrag (9/12/03). Maybe someone
else can confirm that there was such an updated version for ME - or
not.

I have uploaded some files to fileden.com as follows:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...3604/fdisk.ex_
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...604/defrag.ex_
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/.../diskmaint.dl_
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/scandskw.ex_

I had to rename them from .exe to .ex_ (and from .dll to .dl_) for
fileden to accept them.

Download those files, and rename them to .exe and .dll.

fdisk.ex_ updated version of fdisk.exe (for windows 98/me)
defrag.ex_ Windows ME version of defrag.exe
diskmaint.dl_ Windows ME version of diskmaint.dll
scandskw.ex_ Windows ME version of scandskw.exe

Also:

I attached a brand-new 250 gb WD SATA hard drive to my Asrock
motherboard, booted a win-98 floppy into DOS, and ran fdisk. (note:
I made sure that himem.sys was loaded as part of the boot. Maybe it's
necessary, maybe it's not.)

I created a single primary partition using all available space on the
drive (I didn't check the details as to what fdisk thinks is the
entire drive capacity).

I then ran format, with the /z:n switch as follows:

format /z:8 c: /s (format the drive with 4kb cluster size)

I got this message:

"you have specified a cluster size that is too small for
this drive. Use a larger cluster size and try again"

I then tried this: format /z:12 c: /s

and got this:

"Parameter value not in allowed range - /z:12

I then tried format /z:16 c:/s and got the "cluster size too small"
message. Same thing with /z:32.

I tried /z:48 and got the "not in allowed range" error. I then tried
/z:64 and it worked.

"Formatting 41,86.65M"

That's when I left the computer (running at my office). I wasn't
going to hang around for an hour while it formatted the drive. I'll
check back later today and see how it finished the job.

Conclusion: The /z:n format switch is a piece of **** and other tools
must be used to perform a custom format job with a more rational
cluster size.





  #106  
Old July 24th 07, 05:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.disks.general
98 Guy
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Default Hard drive larger then 120GB question

ssome wrote:

The next logical step was to see if the WD s/w for 137GB will
work on other mfgrs HDs. i tried it on a Maxtor 30 GB HD by
partitioning it into 2 parts. It worked. It did give a
disclaimer about a diff mfgr when i selected the HD to be
worked on.


The software in question is usually some version of On Track's Disk
Manager that has been customized for a given manufacturer's drives. I
have some Samsung 160 gb sata drives, and the WD or Seagate versions
of Disk Manager (AKA Disc Wizard) refused to work with the Samsung
drives.

Seems that Maxtor was merged/bought by Seagate. Which means that the
Seagate Disc Wizard would probably work on large Maxtor drives.

For $60, you can buy the real thing (for use on any drive)

http://www.ontrackdatarecovery.com/h...skmanager.aspx

Probably available on a torrent too.
  #107  
Old July 24th 07, 05:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.disks.general
98 Guy
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Posts: 2,951
Default Hard drive larger then 120GB question

ssome wrote:

The next logical step was to see if the WD s/w for 137GB will
work on other mfgrs HDs. i tried it on a Maxtor 30 GB HD by
partitioning it into 2 parts. It worked. It did give a
disclaimer about a diff mfgr when i selected the HD to be
worked on.


The software in question is usually some version of On Track's Disk
Manager that has been customized for a given manufacturer's drives. I
have some Samsung 160 gb sata drives, and the WD or Seagate versions
of Disk Manager (AKA Disc Wizard) refused to work with the Samsung
drives.

Seems that Maxtor was merged/bought by Seagate. Which means that the
Seagate Disc Wizard would probably work on large Maxtor drives.

For $60, you can buy the real thing (for use on any drive)

http://www.ontrackdatarecovery.com/h...skmanager.aspx

Probably available on a torrent too.
  #108  
Old September 29th 07, 07:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.disks.general
ssome
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Default Hard drive larger then 120GB question

I loaded Win 2000 Pro, so that i could buy h/w and s/w that works.(not as
bad as XP)
kept the old computer 98 SE.
it was an interesting tech challenge trying to force things to work in 98SE

ssome

"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
ssome wrote:

The next logical step was to see if the WD s/w for 137GB will
work on other mfgrs HDs. i tried it on a Maxtor 30 GB HD by
partitioning it into 2 parts. It worked. It did give a
disclaimer about a diff mfgr when i selected the HD to be
worked on.


The software in question is usually some version of On Track's Disk
Manager that has been customized for a given manufacturer's drives. I
have some Samsung 160 gb sata drives, and the WD or Seagate versions
of Disk Manager (AKA Disc Wizard) refused to work with the Samsung
drives.

Seems that Maxtor was merged/bought by Seagate. Which means that the
Seagate Disc Wizard would probably work on large Maxtor drives.

For $60, you can buy the real thing (for use on any drive)

http://www.ontrackdatarecovery.com/h...skmanager.aspx

Probably available on a torrent too.



  #109  
Old September 29th 07, 07:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.disks.general
ssome
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 85
Default Hard drive larger then 120GB question

I loaded Win 2000 Pro, so that i could buy h/w and s/w that works.(not as
bad as XP)
kept the old computer 98 SE.
it was an interesting tech challenge trying to force things to work in 98SE

ssome

"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
ssome wrote:

The next logical step was to see if the WD s/w for 137GB will
work on other mfgrs HDs. i tried it on a Maxtor 30 GB HD by
partitioning it into 2 parts. It worked. It did give a
disclaimer about a diff mfgr when i selected the HD to be
worked on.


The software in question is usually some version of On Track's Disk
Manager that has been customized for a given manufacturer's drives. I
have some Samsung 160 gb sata drives, and the WD or Seagate versions
of Disk Manager (AKA Disc Wizard) refused to work with the Samsung
drives.

Seems that Maxtor was merged/bought by Seagate. Which means that the
Seagate Disc Wizard would probably work on large Maxtor drives.

For $60, you can buy the real thing (for use on any drive)

http://www.ontrackdatarecovery.com/h...skmanager.aspx

Probably available on a torrent too.



 




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