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  #11  
Old May 4th 11, 02:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
philo[_31_]
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Default EMERGENCY HELP! Accidentally overwrote folder with another, same name!


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THANK YOU TO ALL! solved got so much back is ok now.



Glad you got your data back

which method did you use?


  #12  
Old May 6th 11, 01:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lostgallifreyan
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Default EMERGENCY HELP! Accidentally overwrote folder with another, same name!

wrote in :

On Sun, 1 May 2011 13:48:16 -0700 (PDT), Robert Macy
wrote:

Apologies, this was the ONLY was to post to this group!



HELP!

Accidentally erased a folder and its multitude of subfolders with a
simpler folder and its two subfolders with the same name!

How to recover?

Using XCOPY in attempt to synchronize multiple systems, accidentally
overwrote a folder originally containing many, many subfolders and
replaced it with a folder of the same name and only its two
subfolders!

F: drive is the memory stick:

Only one file in the root folder needed to be updated. The bat file
contained this

XCOPY /D /E /C /Y F:\Folder\*.* C:\Folder\*.*

sadly, the F drive only had a single file I was trying to synchronize,
but the batch file overwrote/removing all the sufolders on the C
drive

The system is NOT being used until I get an answer from this group.

Need to know if there is someway to undo all this damage.


I dont know how you can recover the file, but I'd suggest backing up
your computer regularly for situations like this. If you had done
this, all you would have to do is rename the new folder and restore
the old one from the backup.

All you really need to get is one of those USB external drives and
copy everything on your drives to it. Other people use actual backup
software, but this method works best for me. I should mention that I
do all my backups using Windows2000 (dual boot) because Win98 cant use
USB2 and it's slower than **** using USB1.

When you make backups using the COPY command, DO NOT backup the swap
file, or the copy command will quit. Since I backup from Win2000, I
just delete the swap file in the windows folder before I backup my C:
partition. (Win2k is on D.



I agree with the advice on copying early to save pain later, but what's
baking my noodle currently is how XCOPY could overwrite as decribed. As far
as I know, it can't. I mean, the OP said he copied a directory of two files,
overwriting MANY files in the destination. XCOPY just doesn't do that as far
as I know, I don't think there's any way to force it to do it unless you can
convince it that the destination directory is a file.
  #13  
Old May 6th 11, 03:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Robert Macy
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Default EMERGENCY HELP! Accidentally overwrote folder with another, same name!

On May 6, 5:09*am, Lostgallifreyan wrote:
wrote :





On Sun, 1 May 2011 13:48:16 -0700 (PDT), Robert Macy
wrote:


Apologies, this was the ONLY was to post to this group!


HELP!


Accidentally erased a folder and its multitude of subfolders with a
simpler folder and its two subfolders with the same name!


How to recover?


Using XCOPY in attempt to synchronize multiple systems, accidentally
overwrote a folder originally containing many, many subfolders and
replaced it with a folder of the same name and only its two
subfolders!


F: drive is the memory stick:


Only one file in the root folder needed to be updated. The bat file
contained this


XCOPY /D /E /C /Y *F:\Folder\*.* *C:\Folder\*.*


sadly, the F drive only had a single file I was trying to synchronize,
but the batch file overwrote/removing all the sufolders on the C
drive


The system is NOT being used until I get an answer from this group.


Need to know if there is someway to undo all this damage.


I dont know how you can recover the file, but I'd suggest backing up
your computer regularly for situations like this. *If you had done
this, all you would have to do is rename the new folder and restore
the old one from the backup.


All you really need to get is one of those USB external drives and
copy everything on your drives to it. *Other people use actual backup
software, but this method works best for me. *I should mention that I
do all my backups using Windows2000 (dual boot) because Win98 cant use
USB2 and it's slower than **** using USB1.


When you make backups using the COPY command, DO NOT backup the swap
file, or the copy command will quit. *Since I backup from Win2000, I
just delete the swap file in the windows folder before I backup my C:
partition. *(Win2k is on D.


I agree with the advice on copying early to save pain later, but what's
baking my noodle currently is how XCOPY could overwrite as decribed. As far
as I know, it can't. I mean, the OP said he copied a directory of two files,
overwriting MANY files in the destination. XCOPY just doesn't do that as far
as I know, I don't think there's any way to force it to do it unless you can
convince it that the destination directory is a file.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You are right.

With great embarrassment I admit to 'Chicken Little'ing here. As an
excuse, was very tired, sitting on the wrong directory [a stripped
directory] and jumped to the conclusion that xcopy had erased
contents. You are right. xcopy did no damage and simply overlaid
files and directories.

However, thank you to everyone for listing excellent tools for that
one time when...
  #14  
Old May 6th 11, 04:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lostgallifreyan
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Default EMERGENCY HELP! Accidentally overwrote folder with another, same name!

Robert Macy wrote in news:6ecaacb7-b8d7-47cd-ab69-
:

With great embarrassment I admit to 'Chicken Little'ing here.


Not a problem.. I do it too, it's one of the great motivators, the effects of
that. I might put off something good for years till that bites, then I sort
it out in short order. All depends how we use it, I guess.
  #16  
Old May 6th 11, 06:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Robert Macy
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Default EMERGENCY HELP! Accidentally overwrote folder with another, same name!

On May 6, 8:45*am, Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Robert Macy wrote in news:6ecaacb7-b8d7-47cd-ab69-
:

However, thank you to everyone for listing excellent tools for that
one time when...


The one I tried to attach was a standalone thinger called Recover98. It's a
bit mysterious, about 560KB with a spooky dark blue/purple icon. It's made by
"LC Technology Int'l Inc" and might be Korean. Someone gave it to me via
Napster some years back. I kept it because it's small, and it worked where
many more complex tools failed. I tried many at one point, and only kept that
one. Lost+Found was particularly awkward, and never did any better than
Recover98, and often worse. I don't even know if this copy I was given was an
original or a hacked form. All I know is that on FAT16 and FAT32 it has a
good rate of recovery so long as the files aren't too big, and nothing much
has written to the drive since loss. Even bigger files can be recovered if
they weren't fragmented, I think lots of FAT chains or whatever they're
called, when jumping around due to fragmentation, confuses many recovery
tools.


try sending directly
macy

AT

sfo

DOT

com

no virii? right?
  #17  
Old May 6th 11, 08:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lostgallifreyan
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Default EMERGENCY HELP! Accidentally overwrote folder with another, same name!

Robert Macy wrote in news:1314c696-2e7a-47dc-9711-
:

On May 6, 8:45*am, Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Robert Macy wrote in news:6ecaacb7-b8d7-47cd-ab69-
:

However, thank you to everyone for listing excellent tools for that
one time when...


The one I tried to attach was a standalone thinger called Recover98. It's

a
bit mysterious, about 560KB with a spooky dark blue/purple icon. It's mad

e by
"LC Technology Int'l Inc" and might be Korean. Someone gave it to me via
Napster some years back. I kept it because it's small, and it worked wher

e
many more complex tools failed. I tried many at one point, and only kept

that
one. Lost+Found was particularly awkward, and never did any better than
Recover98, and often worse. I don't even know if this copy I was given wa

s an
original or a hacked form. All I know is that on FAT16 and FAT32 it has a
good rate of recovery so long as the files aren't too big, and nothing mu

ch
has written to the drive since loss. Even bigger files can be recovered i

f
they weren't fragmented, I think lots of FAT chains or whatever they're
called, when jumping around due to fragmentation, confuses many recovery
tools.


try sending directly
macy

AT

sfo

DOT

com

no virii? right?


Hell no. Check it, as everything, if you do that, but I am certain this is
ok. I'll add the MD5 checksums of the EXE and the RAR containing it, to the
mail so you can see if it reaches you as it left me. This tool has never done
anything other than it was meant to do though. Unless you count the
occasional refusal to save stuff it found. I never figured that out other
than that closing, reloading, and rescanning the disk usually makes that
problem go away. Maybe it had to do with something writing to the scanned
disk without me being aware of it. That should be avoided anyway...

While I don't run AV, I do run LnS firewall. If anything, ever, wants to go
online, I know. This tool never does, even though it's supposed to be a
network version, but I never asked it to open a network drive. I also think
it cannot write raw data to a drive, it only saves files, and only to a drive
it hasn't just opened for recovery. It has no manual (likely did once but I
never saw one), but it's easy to figure out.

I think one reason this thing works so well is that unlike Lost+Found and
many others, it doesn't need you to shut down Windows and reboot to DOS. A
shutdown can cause several disk writes. With this, the instant you think you
lost something, make no other move except to fire this up and scan the drive
for your best chance of recovery. Just forget it for big stuff, if the file
was 100 MB it's usually gone, no matter what. Maybe some other tool works
better for big stuff, I don't know.
  #18  
Old May 6th 11, 09:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default EMERGENCY HELP! Accidentally overwrote folder with another, same name!

In message ,
Lostgallifreyan writes:
Robert Macy wrote in news:1314c696-2e7a-47dc-9711-
:

[]
try sending directly
macy

AT

sfo

DOT

com

no virii? right?


Hell no. Check it, as everything, if you do that, but I am certain this is
ok. I'll add the MD5 checksums of the EXE and the RAR containing it, to the
mail so you can see if it reaches you as it left me. This tool has never done


Can I be cheeky and do a "me too please"? (I'd have emailed, but had the
feeling that might not have worked ...)
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

When I am working on a problem I never think about beauty. I only think about
how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not
beautiful, I know it is wrong.
-R. Buckminster Fuller, engineer, designer, and architect (1895-1983)
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Old May 6th 11, 09:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lostgallifreyan
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Default EMERGENCY HELP! Accidentally overwrote folder with another, same name!

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in
:

Can I be cheeky and do a "me too please"? (I'd have emailed, but had the
feeling that might not have worked ...)


You're right, it wouldn't. Coming up.. that is, if the link above work.
(As it happens, I'm thinking of signing up to Demon too, Scots firm I think,
old, and still around having fended off a lot of other firms taking over the
smaller ones. Any special good points (or bad) I ought to know? And do they
have usenet access, that's the one thing I want that I think they might not
have.

Also, if you have any way to put this thing on some web host, please do, I
don't know if I can use them, I've downloaded things from various sites at
times, but never uploaded to them before so I don't know if there's awkward
hurdles to doing it.
  #20  
Old May 7th 11, 10:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default EMERGENCY HELP! Accidentally overwrote folder with another, same name!

In message ,
Lostgallifreyan writes:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in
:

Can I be cheeky and do a "me too please"? (I'd have emailed, but had the
feeling that might not have worked ...)


You're right, it wouldn't. Coming up.. that is, if the link above work.
(As it happens, I'm thinking of signing up to Demon too, Scots firm I think,
old, and still around having fended off a lot of other firms taking over the
smaller ones. Any special good points (or bad) I ought to know? And do they
have usenet access, that's the one thing I want that I think they might not
have.

[]
Yes (though using one of the commercial providers with wind in the name
now). Longer reply sent by email (using email addy you sent with) -
please say if you don't get it.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

When I am working on a problem I never think about beauty. I only think about
how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not
beautiful, I know it is wrong.
-R. Buckminster Fuller, engineer, designer, and architect (1895-1983)
 




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