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Old December 21st 04, 12:59 AM
Steve Hayes
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How does one make a new program group on the Win 98 desktop?

I have done it before, but I cannot remember how I did it.

I have program groups for Word Processors, Graphics programs and so on sitting
on the desktop. But now when I try to make a new one, I create something that
I don't want - either a copy of the programs menu in the Start Button, or a
shortcut, or a folder with a yerllow folder item. I want a shortcut that
contains shortcuts.




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Old December 21st 04, 02:14 AM
Ron Badour
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A shortcut cannot contain shortcuts AFAIK. Are you sure you don't have a
folder containing shortcuts on your desktop?

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"Steve Hayes" wrote in message
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How does one make a new program group on the Win 98 desktop?

I have done it before, but I cannot remember how I did it.

I have program groups for Word Processors, Graphics programs and so on

sitting
on the desktop. But now when I try to make a new one, I create something

that
I don't want - either a copy of the programs menu in the Start Button, or

a
shortcut, or a folder with a yerllow folder item. I want a shortcut that
contains shortcuts.




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Old December 21st 04, 04:32 AM
Andrew H. Carter
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:59:20 GMT,
(Steve Hayes) scribbled some thoughts:


How does one make a new program group on the Win 98 desktop?

I have done it before, but I cannot remember how I did it.

I have program groups for Word Processors, Graphics programs and so on sitting
on the desktop. But now when I try to make a new one, I create something that
I don't want - either a copy of the programs menu in the Start Button, or a
shortcut, or a folder with a yerllow folder item. I want a shortcut that
contains shortcuts.



Win+R Winfile ?
Win+R ProgMan ?

If those don't do what you want, then you'll have to do some
reg tweaking.

What you probably want/need to do:

Right Click the task bar on an empty area and choose
PropertiesStart Menu Programs (tab) Advanced (button), if
you have more than one shortcut. Create Navigate the
desired folder/program group, then opening Windows Explorer
via WIN+E, just find the program EXEs, Coms, BATs, Files etc
and Right-Click and drag to the appropriate place on your
new Program group.

The Start Menu is both shortcuts and a folder with nested
subfolders:

C:\Windows\Start Menu.

If you want to do a one fell swoop purge of your Start Menu
Programs or selected branches:

WIN+R (type) COMMAND /K (enter)

For the whole kit and kiboodle, both above the Start Key and
in the Programs subfolder?

DELTREE "C:\Windows\Start Menu\"

You will be prompted to delete all it's subdirectories.

Conversely you could do:

WIN+R (type) COMMAND /K (enter)

MD "C:\Windows\Start Menu\Word Processors"
MD "C:\Windows\Start Menu\Graphic Manipulators"

Doing the above will place the folders above the Start Key.
Doing below will do the directory creation under the
Programs SubMenu/Folder:


MD "C:\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Word Processors"
MD "C:\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Graphic Manipulators"

It was either a newsgroup or a tip on the WWW hwere one guy
did not like the default Start Menu hierarchy so he deleted
the the Menu much as I showed above, then recreated it the
way he wanted.

Once you have the Menu the way you want and doubt that you
will add any thing else you can create a batch file which
will do the Menu destruction/creation faster than you could
walk to the bathroom.

DIR Command
=======================
=======================
Displays a list of files and subdirectories in a directory.

DIR [drive:][path][filename] [/P] [/W] [/A[[:]attributes]]
[/O[[:]sortorder]] [/S] [/b] [/L] [/V] [/4]

[drive:][path][filename]
Specifies drive, directory, and/or files to
list.
(Could be enhanced file specification or
multiple filespecs.)
/P Pauses after each screenful of information.
/W Uses wide list format.
/A Displays files with specified attributes.
attributes D Directories R Read-only
files
H Hidden files A Files ready
for archiving
S System files - Prefix
meaning not
/O List by files in sorted order.
sortorder N By name (alphabetic) S By size
(smallest first)
E By extension (alphabetic) D By date &
time (earliest first)
G Group directories first - Prefix to
reverse order
A By Last Access Date (earliest first)
/S Displays files in specified directory and all
subdirectories.
/B Uses bare format (no heading information or
summary).
/L Uses lowercase.
/V Verbose mode.
/4 Displays year with 4 digits (ignored if /V
also given).

Switches may be preset in the DIRCMD environment variable.
Override
preset switches by prefixing any switch with - (hyphen)--for
example, /-W.


DELTREE Command
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=======================
Deletes a directory and all the subdirectories and files in
it.

To delete one or more files and directories:
DELTREE [/Y] [drive:]path [[drive:]path[...]]

/Y Suppresses prompting to confirm you want
to delete
the subdirectory.
[drive:]path Specifies the name of the directory you
want to delete.

Note: Use DELTREE cautiously. Every file and subdirectory
within the
specified directory will be deleted.


MD Command
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=======================

Creates a directory.

MKDIR [drive:]path
MD [drive:]path


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Old December 21st 04, 04:36 AM
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:14:50 -0600, "Ron Badour"
scribbled some thoughts:


A shortcut cannot contain shortcuts AFAIK. Are you sure you don't have a
folder containing shortcuts on your desktop?



Unless it might be one of the special folders, such as:

Dial-Up Networking.{992CFFA0-F557-101A-88EC-00DD010CCC48}
Printers.{2227A280-3AEA-1069-A2DE-08002B30309D}
Control Panel.{21EC2020-3AEA-1069-A2DD-08002B30309D}

Wonder if he's thinkin' Control Panel?

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Old December 22nd 04, 05:21 PM
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Steve Hayes wrote:
How does one make a new program group on the Win 98 desktop?

I have done it before, but I cannot remember how I did it.

I have program groups for Word Processors, Graphics programs and so
on sitting on the desktop. But now when I try to make a new one, I
create something that I don't want - either a copy of the programs
menu in the Start Button, or a shortcut, or a folder with a yerllow
folder item. I want a shortcut that contains shortcuts.


Here are several ways...

1. Make a folder somewhere (not on the desktop) and name it
appropriately...Favorite Apps, for example.

2. Make sub folders in the above - one for each catagory you want - and
name them appropriately.

3. Put shortcuts to the appropriate apps in the sub folders.

4. Right click the taskbar
Select "Toolbars"
Select "New Toolbar"
Browse to the folder you made in #1, select it and OK
your way out.

_______________________

You now have a new toolbar on your taskbar. You can change how it
looks/behaves by ...
ViewLarge/small icons
Selecting/deselecting "Show Text"
Selecting/deselecting "Show Title"

You could have individual toolbars for different catagories of apps
merely by choosing the appropriate sub-folder in #4 instead of the
parent folder.

You can get rid of it (on the taskbar) by right clicking and selecting
"Close Toolbar"

You can see names of ALL toolbars on the task bar (and close any) by
rightclicking the Taskbar Toolbars

You can have up to four taskbars (I have three) - one on each side of
the monitor, each with multiple toolbars (I have a total of eleven).
They can be hidden until you move the mouse to that edge. For info on
making multiple taskbars (and more on toolbars) see "Taskbars &
Toolbars" in my dandies below.
______________________

You could put a shortcut to the folder(s) you made on the desktop (it
will have a folder icon which can be changed) but - IMO - it is far
handier having them as toolbars.
______________________

If you already have your programs catagorized in folders in
StartPrograms you can make a shortcut to the folder on your desktop.
It will have the standard icon but you can change it by right clicking
the shortcut Properties Change Icon. I would guess that this is
what you did originally.

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Old December 22nd 04, 05:22 PM
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Ron Badour wrote:
A shortcut cannot contain shortcuts AFAIK. Are you sure you don't
have a folder containing shortcuts on your desktop?


Can't contain them put it can point to them.

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