Getting NTFS access in DOS of an external USB drive?

I'm temporarily back to my Win98SE computer now since the XP one has a
problem, but would like (if possible) to access some files on it.

I am wondering if there is any way to access my WinXP drive (which is NTFS)
inside an external USB enclosure (which I already have), using something
like NTFS4DOS or whatever. But I've already tried booting up in NTFS4DOS
on a floppy, and it can't access external USB drive enclosures, it seems.
I gather it only works if the drive is directly connected inside the
computer, which I cannot do.
I can't put the XP drive directly inside this computer, as it's a SATA
drive, and this Win98 computer only takes IDE drives.

It's not the end of the world if I can't do this, but I was just wondering
if it is at all possible (as my XP computer is completely dead at the
moment). I'm guessing there is a limitation here in trying to use
something like NTFS4DOS to access a drive connected to the USB port, and
that it isn't even possible.

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
I'm temporarily back to my Win98SE computer now since the XP one has a
problem, but would like (if possible) to access some files on it.

I am wondering if there is any way to access my WinXP drive (which is
NTFS)
inside an external USB enclosure (which I already have), using something
like NTFS4DOS or whatever. But I've already tried booting up in
NTFS4DOS
on a floppy, and it can't access external USB drive enclosures, it
seems.
I gather it only works if the drive is directly connected inside the
computer, which I cannot do.
I can't put the XP drive directly inside this computer, as it's a SATA
drive, and this Win98 computer only takes IDE drives.

It's not the end of the world if I can't do this, but I was just
wondering
if it is at all possible (as my XP computer is completely dead at the
moment). I'm guessing there is a limitation here in trying to use
something like NTFS4DOS to access a drive connected to the USB port, and
that it isn't even possible.

Might help, but I know nothing about it

http://www.soft411.com/company/DiskI...TFS-Reader.htm

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
I'm temporarily back to my Win98SE computer now since the XP one has a
problem, but would like (if possible) to access some files on it.

I am wondering if there is any way to access my WinXP drive (which is
NTFS)
inside an external USB enclosure (which I already have), using something
like NTFS4DOS or whatever. But I've already tried booting up in
NTFS4DOS
on a floppy, and it can't access external USB drive enclosures, it
seems.
I gather it only works if the drive is directly connected inside the
computer, which I cannot do.
I can't put the XP drive directly inside this computer, as it's a SATA
drive, and this Win98 computer only takes IDE drives.

It's not the end of the world if I can't do this, but I was just
wondering
if it is at all possible (as my XP computer is completely dead at the
moment). I'm guessing there is a limitation here in trying to use
something like NTFS4DOS to access a drive connected to the USB port, and
that it isn't even possible.

Might help, but I know nothing about it

http://www.soft411.com/company/DiskI...TFS-Reader.htm

Another reason to use good ol' FAT32 instead of anything with
"new technology" in the name.
But with MS, anything newer is ALWAYS better, right?


--
Of course, it is no easy matter to be polite; in so far, I mean,
as it requires us to show great respect for everybody, whereas
most people deserve none at all; and again in so far as it
demands that we should feign the most lively interest in people,
when we must be very glad that we have nothing to do with them.
- Arthur Schopenhauer

Another reason to use good ol' FAT32 instead of anything with
"new technology" in the name.
But with MS, anything newer is ALWAYS better, right?


--
Of course, it is no easy matter to be polite; in so far, I mean,
as it requires us to show great respect for everybody, whereas
most people deserve none at all; and again in so far as it
demands that we should feign the most lively interest in people,
when we must be very glad that we have nothing to do with them.
- Arthur Schopenhauer

Addendum:
In case anybody is interested, I did find an app that allows NTFS file
access within Win98 to allow you to share files, even if the NTFS drive is
in an external USB enclosure. It is Paragon's "NTFS for Win98". I
mention this in case anybody else here is also using both FAT32 and NTFS
(like in WinXP or later), and wants some NTFS access within Win98 to be able
to share or transfer some files.

As for being able to do this in DOS (with the limitations mentioned below -
an external USB drive with NTFS on it), not sure if that is going to be
possible, but at least this is an option. :-)

Bill in Co. wrote:
I'm temporarily back to my Win98SE computer now since the XP one has a
problem, but would like (if possible) to access some files on it.

I am wondering if there is any way to access my WinXP drive (which is
NTFS)
inside an external USB enclosure (which I already have), using something
like NTFS4DOS or whatever. But I've already tried booting up in NTFS4DOS
on a floppy, and it can't access external USB drive enclosures, it seems.
I gather it only works if the drive is directly connected inside the
computer, which I cannot do.
I can't put the XP drive directly inside this computer, as it's a SATA
drive, and this Win98 computer only takes IDE drives.

It's not the end of the world if I can't do this, but I was just wondering
if it is at all possible (as my XP computer is completely dead at the
moment). I'm guessing there is a limitation here in trying to use
something like NTFS4DOS to access a drive connected to the USB port, and
that it isn't even possible.

Addendum:
In case anybody is interested, I did find an app that allows NTFS file
access within Win98 to allow you to share files, even if the NTFS drive is
in an external USB enclosure. It is Paragon's "NTFS for Win98". I
mention this in case anybody else here is also using both FAT32 and NTFS
(like in WinXP or later), and wants some NTFS access within Win98 to be able
to share or transfer some files.

As for being able to do this in DOS (with the limitations mentioned below -
an external USB drive with NTFS on it), not sure if that is going to be
possible, but at least this is an option. :-)

Bill in Co. wrote:
I'm temporarily back to my Win98SE computer now since the XP one has a
problem, but would like (if possible) to access some files on it.

I am wondering if there is any way to access my WinXP drive (which is
NTFS)
inside an external USB enclosure (which I already have), using something
like NTFS4DOS or whatever. But I've already tried booting up in NTFS4DOS
on a floppy, and it can't access external USB drive enclosures, it seems.
I gather it only works if the drive is directly connected inside the
computer, which I cannot do.
I can't put the XP drive directly inside this computer, as it's a SATA
drive, and this Win98 computer only takes IDE drives.

It's not the end of the world if I can't do this, but I was just wondering
if it is at all possible (as my XP computer is completely dead at the
moment). I'm guessing there is a limitation here in trying to use
something like NTFS4DOS to access a drive connected to the USB port, and
that it isn't even possible.

The Paragon utility and the Diskinternals utility should both give you
the functions you need.

You CAN connect a SATA drive to an older computer with no SATA
connections, using inexpensive adapters.

Example:
Kingwin ADP-06 SATA Hard Drive, CD/DVD Drive to IDE/PATA Bridge Adapter
Converter.
http://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-ADP-06.../dp/B002SZDOM6



"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...

Addendum:
In case anybody is interested, I did find an app that allows NTFS file
access within Win98 to allow you to share files, even if the NTFS
drive is
in an external USB enclosure. It is Paragon's "NTFS for Win98". I
mention this in case anybody else here is also using both FAT32 and
NTFS
(like in WinXP or later), and wants some NTFS access within Win98 to
be able
to share or transfer some files.

As for being able to do this in DOS (with the limitations mentioned
below -
an external USB drive with NTFS on it), not sure if that is going to
be
possible, but at least this is an option. :-)

Bill in Co. wrote:
I'm temporarily back to my Win98SE computer now since the XP one has
a
problem, but would like (if possible) to access some files on it.

I am wondering if there is any way to access my WinXP drive (which is
NTFS)
inside an external USB enclosure (which I already have), using
something
like NTFS4DOS or whatever. But I've already tried booting up in
NTFS4DOS
on a floppy, and it can't access external USB drive enclosures, it
seems.
I gather it only works if the drive is directly connected inside the
computer, which I cannot do.
I can't put the XP drive directly inside this computer, as it's a
SATA
drive, and this Win98 computer only takes IDE drives.

It's not the end of the world if I can't do this, but I was just
wondering
if it is at all possible (as my XP computer is completely dead at the
moment). I'm guessing there is a limitation here in trying to use
something like NTFS4DOS to access a drive connected to the USB port,
and
that it isn't even possible.

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/

The Paragon utility and the Diskinternals utility should both give you
the functions you need.

You CAN connect a SATA drive to an older computer with no SATA
connections, using inexpensive adapters.

Example:
Kingwin ADP-06 SATA Hard Drive, CD/DVD Drive to IDE/PATA Bridge Adapter
Converter.
http://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-ADP-06.../dp/B002SZDOM6



"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...

Addendum:
In case anybody is interested, I did find an app that allows NTFS file
access within Win98 to allow you to share files, even if the NTFS
drive is
in an external USB enclosure. It is Paragon's "NTFS for Win98". I
mention this in case anybody else here is also using both FAT32 and
NTFS
(like in WinXP or later), and wants some NTFS access within Win98 to
be able
to share or transfer some files.

As for being able to do this in DOS (with the limitations mentioned
below -
an external USB drive with NTFS on it), not sure if that is going to
be
possible, but at least this is an option. :-)

Bill in Co. wrote:
I'm temporarily back to my Win98SE computer now since the XP one has
a
problem, but would like (if possible) to access some files on it.

I am wondering if there is any way to access my WinXP drive (which is
NTFS)
inside an external USB enclosure (which I already have), using
something
like NTFS4DOS or whatever. But I've already tried booting up in
NTFS4DOS
on a floppy, and it can't access external USB drive enclosures, it
seems.
I gather it only works if the drive is directly connected inside the
computer, which I cannot do.
I can't put the XP drive directly inside this computer, as it's a
SATA
drive, and this Win98 computer only takes IDE drives.

It's not the end of the world if I can't do this, but I was just
wondering
if it is at all possible (as my XP computer is completely dead at the
moment). I'm guessing there is a limitation here in trying to use
something like NTFS4DOS to access a drive connected to the USB port,
and
that it isn't even possible.

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/

Thanks Glen.

It looks like the DiskInternals one ("NTFS Reader for Windows") is more
basic, and for read-only (which admitedly is probably all I need), while the
Paragon one is a bit more full featured, and allows both read and write
access to the NTFS drive. Both are free (although the Paragon one used to
be payware).

Also, thanks for the info on the SATA adapters. Hopefully I'll get my XP
computer back and running so I won't have to go there. :-) (I'm
assuming I have a dead power supply there and will replace it shortly (only
the amber power button light turns on). But C'est La Vie...


glee wrote:
The Paragon utility and the Diskinternals utility should both give you
the functions you need.

You CAN connect a SATA drive to an older computer with no SATA
connections, using inexpensive adapters.

Example:
Kingwin ADP-06 SATA Hard Drive, CD/DVD Drive to IDE/PATA Bridge Adapter
Converter.
http://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-ADP-06.../dp/B002SZDOM6



"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...

Addendum:
In case anybody is interested, I did find an app that allows NTFS file
access within Win98 to allow you to share files, even if the NTFS
drive is
in an external USB enclosure. It is Paragon's "NTFS for Win98". I
mention this in case anybody else here is also using both FAT32 and
NTFS
(like in WinXP or later), and wants some NTFS access within Win98 to
be able
to share or transfer some files.

As for being able to do this in DOS (with the limitations mentioned
below -
an external USB drive with NTFS on it), not sure if that is going to
be
possible, but at least this is an option. :-)

Bill in Co. wrote:
I'm temporarily back to my Win98SE computer now since the XP one has
a
problem, but would like (if possible) to access some files on it.

I am wondering if there is any way to access my WinXP drive (which is
NTFS)
inside an external USB enclosure (which I already have), using
something
like NTFS4DOS or whatever. But I've already tried booting up in
NTFS4DOS
on a floppy, and it can't access external USB drive enclosures, it
seems.
I gather it only works if the drive is directly connected inside the
computer, which I cannot do.
I can't put the XP drive directly inside this computer, as it's a
SATA
drive, and this Win98 computer only takes IDE drives.

It's not the end of the world if I can't do this, but I was just
wondering
if it is at all possible (as my XP computer is completely dead at the
moment). I'm guessing there is a limitation here in trying to use
something like NTFS4DOS to access a drive connected to the USB port,
and
that it isn't even possible.

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/