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I hate Windows 2000, miss W98 SE.
DaffyD® wrote:
Well, here I am running W2K and boy do I wish I had 98SE back. It is so much more user friendly and simpler in design. I hate the admin and user accounts in 2000--it makes everything so much harder to find. True enough! That's one of the "advantages" of Win98SE (for a single user, I mean). Setup by design just for a single user; very nice and simple, and easy to keep track of *everything*. A very, very, lean operating system. (I think it's somewhere around 200 MB in total, isn't it?) But to go back to 98SE would mean reformatting the hard drive and using my external drive (which doesn't work with 98) as a bookend. Maybe it can, with the right drivers. Or - you could always consider getting one that can, they aren't that expensive. My old scanner no longer works like it did since it was designed to work with 95 & 98; the images when printed are practically illegible. The frustrating thing is that had it been a USB scanner, I could download a compatible driver for 2000 but I dumbly bought a parallel port scanner back then. But I don't see myself going back to 98; it's just too limited in today's hardware/software/internet world. I just hope that the external drive will work with whatever is released after Vista. Is Win98SE really "more limited" in ALL software than Windows 2000? I'm not so sure that is true, at least for multimedia apps, anyways. Actually, I think Win98SE still has more software capability there (at least in this one arena). But still, the advantage of Win2000 is its robustness, I think. Like Windows XP (I'm still waiting to get a blue screen :-). I'm still going to be monitoring this newsgroup--it's my favorite of all the Windows groups. -- DaffyD® If I Knew Where I Was I'd Be There Now. |
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I hate Windows 2000, miss W98 SE.
Windows 98 Second Edition is not limited. Sure, if you want a more business
type interface go with Windows 2000 Professional but if you want great multimedia and internal safety of a maintenance operating system of MS-DOS then go with 98 Second Edition. I do not know why so many people have trouble seeing this fact. The problems were mainly with 3rd party drivers that caused so many issues in 98 Second Edition and the only issues I seem to get with 98 Second Edition these days are the denial of service errors. Okay, I did get a freeze on my machine last night but that was due to Internet Explorer 6 reporting tool not sending the data correctly to Microsoft after IE 6 crashed. I do not mind the crashing and actually like to see how stable the software is. BTW, if you use Windows XP then I would suggest updating to Internet Explorer 8 if you have Internet Explorer 7 or downgrade to Internet Explorer 6 if you want to do a clean install because IE 7 has some serious issues. It would be even better to just use Mozilla Firefox 2 or 3 where you can because the browser supports 256 bit AES encryption which is only 128 encryption with IE except in Windows Vista. I do not know about Windows Server and I am talking about Desktop Windows Operating Systems. "DaffyD®" wrote: Well, here I am running W2K and boy do I wish I had 98SE back. It is so much more user friendly and simpler in design. I hate the admin and user accounts in 2000--it makes everything so much harder to find. But to go back to 98SE would mean reformatting the hard drive and using my external drive (which doesn't work with 98) as a bookend. My old scanner no longer works like it did since it was designed to work with 95 & 98; the images when printed are practically illegible. The frustrating thing is that had it been a USB scanner, I could download a compatible driver for 2000 but I dumbly bought a parallel port scanner back then. But I don't see myself going back to 98; it's just too limited in today's hardware/software/internet world. I just hope that the external drive will work with whatever is released after Vista. I'm still going to be monitoring this newsgroup--it's my favorite of all the Windows groups. -- DaffyD® If I Knew Where I Was I'd Be There Now. |
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I hate Windows 2000, miss W98 SE.
Bill in Co. wrote:
| DaffyD® wrote: | Well, here I am running W2K and boy do I wish I had 98SE back. It is | so much | more user friendly and simpler in design. I hate the admin and user | accounts | in 2000--it makes everything so much harder to find. | | True enough! That's one of the "advantages" of Win98SE (for a | single user, I mean). Setup by design just for a single user; very | nice and simple, and easy to keep track of *everything*. A very, | very, lean operating system. (I think it's somewhere around 200 MB | in total, isn't it?) My Windows folder is 286 folders, 5,307 files, 454,827,147 bytes. And Program Files is 323 folders, 3,905 files, 540,817,212 bytes. | But to go back to 98SE | would mean reformatting the hard drive and using my external drive | (which doesn't work with 98) as a bookend. | | Maybe it can, with the right drivers. Or - you could always consider | getting one that can, they aren't that expensive. I know you've done it. Would be nice if you could talk DaffyD® through it! | My old scanner no longer works like it | did since it was designed to work with 95 & 98; the images when | printed are | practically illegible. The frustrating thing is that had it been a | USB scanner, I could download a compatible driver for 2000 but I | dumbly bought a | parallel port scanner back then. | | But I don't see myself going back to 98; it's just too limited in | today's hardware/software/internet world. I just hope that the | external drive will work with whatever is released after Vista. | | Is Win98SE really "more limited" in ALL software than Windows 2000? | I'm not so sure that is true, at least for multimedia apps, anyways. | Actually, I think Win98SE still has more software capability there | (at least in this one arena). | | But still, the advantage of Win2000 is its robustness, I think. | Like Windows XP (I'm still waiting to get a blue screen :-). XP has crashed on you, Colorado -- well-enough for you to do several registry restores & restore point restores & maybe even a full backup restore or two -- you've admitted it, IIRC! I don't care whether it gives a blue screen or an XP-irradiated sickly green one! | I'm still going to be monitoring this newsgroup--it's my favorite of | all the | Windows groups. Good to see you you back, DaffyD®. Maybe try for the proper drivers as Colorado has suggested! | -- | DaffyD® | | If I Knew Where I Was I'd Be There Now. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR |
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I hate Windows 2000, miss W98 SE.
Hey Daffster, try thinking outside the box. You can create a folder
"Documents" anywhere you want, like f'rinstance C:\Documents (Microsoft actually did that already with a clone My Documents folder although some hide it). Or with a Google search you can adjust the target of a dedicated Windows Explorer shortcut to drill down to where the particular folder is you want to play with, such as Application Data or Temp. What would seem intellectually indefensible is reflexive whining without knowing what the options are. DaffyD® wrote: Well, here I am running W2K and boy do I wish I had 98SE back. It is so much more user friendly and simpler in design. I hate the admin and user accounts in 2000--it makes everything so much harder to find. But to go back to 98SE would mean reformatting the hard drive and using my external drive (which doesn't work with 98) as a bookend. My old scanner no longer works like it did since it was designed to work with 95 & 98; the images when printed are practically illegible. The frustrating thing is that had it been a USB scanner, I could download a compatible driver for 2000 but I dumbly bought a parallel port scanner back then. But I don't see myself going back to 98; it's just too limited in today's hardware/software/internet world. I just hope that the external drive will work with whatever is released after Vista. I'm still going to be monitoring this newsgroup--it's my favorite of all the Windows groups. |
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I hate Windows 2000, miss W98 SE.
PCR wrote:
Bill in Co. wrote: DaffyD® wrote: Well, here I am running W2K and boy do I wish I had 98SE back. It is so much more user friendly and simpler in design. I hate the admin and user accounts in 2000--it makes everything so much harder to find. True enough! That's one of the "advantages" of Win98SE (for a single user, I mean). Setup by design just for a single user; very nice and simple, and easy to keep track of *everything*. A very, very, lean operating system. (I think it's somewhere around 200 MB in total, isn't it?) My Windows folder is 286 folders, 5,307 files, 454,827,147 bytes. And Program Files is 323 folders, 3,905 files, 540,817,212 bytes. Program Files doesn't count! That's by far mostly your applications in there! We were talking about the operating system! And the reason your system folder is that large is due to all those updates you added and some stuff added by some applications, no doubt. Go check out your original installation size (if you still have a copy). I still think it's around 200 MB, as I said. WITHOUT applications and "updates" being installed/ But to go back to 98SE would mean reformatting the hard drive and using my external drive (which doesn't work with 98) as a bookend. Maybe it can, with the right drivers. Or - you could always consider getting one that can, they aren't that expensive. I know you've done it. Would be nice if you could talk DaffyD® through it! My old scanner no longer works like it did since it was designed to work with 95 & 98; the images when printed are practically illegible. The frustrating thing is that had it been a USB scanner, I could download a compatible driver for 2000 but I dumbly bought a parallel port scanner back then. But I don't see myself going back to 98; it's just too limited in today's hardware/software/internet world. I just hope that the external drive will work with whatever is released after Vista. Is Win98SE really "more limited" in ALL software than Windows 2000? I'm not so sure that is true, at least for multimedia apps, anyways. Actually, I think Win98SE still has more software capability there (at least in this one arena). But still, the advantage of Win2000 is its robustness, I think. Like Windows XP (I'm still waiting to get a blue screen :-). XP has crashed on you, Colorado -- well-enough for you to do several registry restores & restore point restores & maybe even a full backup restore or two -- you've admitted it, IIRC! I don't care whether it gives a blue screen or an XP-irradiated sickly green one! No, not quite accurate. (I said I got blue screens in XP??? When)? But - I *have* done several registry or disk image restores in XP, but NOT due to blue screens! Those restore operations were done due to my desire to put my system back exactly as it was prior to some software installations (just to play it safe), and/or if some settings got changed that I didn't "appreciate" (and it was an easy way to get back). That's all, unless you remember something I don't. I'm still waiting for blue screens, unless you recall some I mentioned (in XP, I mean). I'm still going to be monitoring this newsgroup--it's my favorite of all the Windows groups. Good to see you you back, DaffyD®. Maybe try for the proper drivers as Colorado has suggested! -- DaffyD® If I Knew Where I Was I'd Be There Now. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR |
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I hate Windows 2000, miss W98 SE.
Bill in Co. wrote:
| PCR wrote: | Bill in Co. wrote: | DaffyD® wrote: | Well, here I am running W2K and boy do I wish I had 98SE back. It | is so much more user friendly and simpler in design. I hate the | admin and user | accounts in 2000--it makes everything so much harder to find. | | True enough! That's one of the "advantages" of Win98SE (for a | single user, I mean). Setup by design just for a single user; very | nice and simple, and easy to keep track of *everything*. A very, | very, lean operating system. (I think it's somewhere around 200 MB | in total, isn't it?) | | My Windows folder is 286 folders, 5,307 files, 454,827,147 bytes. | And Program Files is 323 folders, 3,905 files, 540,817,212 bytes. | | Program Files doesn't count! That's by far mostly your | applications in there! We were talking about the operating system! | | And the reason your system folder is that large is due to all those | updates you added and some stuff added by some applications, no doubt. | | Go check out your original installation size (if you still have a | copy). I still think it's around 200 MB, as I said. WITHOUT | applications and "updates" being installed/ On 2nd thought, yea, you are right, this machine came with a bunch of extra packages already installed, like MS Works. The stuff I've installed afterwards is all minor, though. Yea, you're likely correct, but I can't check it on this machine. | But to go back to 98SE | would mean reformatting the hard drive and using my external drive | (which doesn't work with 98) as a bookend. | | Maybe it can, with the right drivers. Or - you could always | consider getting one that can, they aren't that expensive. | | I know you've done it. Would be nice if you could talk DaffyD® | through it! | | My old scanner no longer works like it | did since it was designed to work with 95 & 98; the images when | printed are practically illegible. The frustrating thing is that | had it been a | USB scanner, I could download a compatible driver for 2000 but I | dumbly bought a parallel port scanner back then. | | But I don't see myself going back to 98; it's just too limited in | today's hardware/software/internet world. I just hope that the | external drive will work with whatever is released after Vista. | | Is Win98SE really "more limited" in ALL software than Windows 2000? | I'm not so sure that is true, at least for multimedia apps, anyways. | Actually, I think Win98SE still has more software capability there | (at least in this one arena). | | But still, the advantage of Win2000 is its robustness, I think. | Like Windows XP (I'm still waiting to get a blue screen :-). | | XP has crashed on you, Colorado -- well-enough for you to do several | registry restores & restore point restores & maybe even a full backup | restore or two -- you've admitted it, IIRC! I don't care whether it | gives a blue screen or an XP-irradiated sickly green one! | | No, not quite accurate. (I said I got blue screens in XP??? | When)? But - I *have* done several registry or disk image restores in | XP, but NOT due to blue screens! Those restore operations were done | due to my desire to put my system back exactly as it was prior to | some software installations (just to play it safe), and/or if some | settings got changed that I didn't "appreciate" (and it was an easy | way to get back). That's all, unless you remember something I don't. | I'm still waiting for blue screens, unless you recall some I | mentioned (in XP, I mean). No, I don't recall you said any color. But I was fairly sure you said you had a crash of some kind in XP. And I strongly suspect Terhune thinks so too! But "Hitchhiker's Guide" just started & I must go. So, fine, I'll try to remember you never crashed yet. | I'm still going to be monitoring this newsgroup--it's my favorite | of all the Windows groups. | | Good to see you you back, DaffyD®. Maybe try for the proper drivers | as Colorado has suggested! | | -- | DaffyD® | | If I Knew Where I Was I'd Be There Now. | | -- | Thanks or Good Luck, | There may be humor in this post, and, | Naturally, you will not sue, | Should things get worse after this, | PCR | -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR |
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I hate Windows 2000, miss W98 SE.
PCR wrote:
Bill in Co. wrote: PCR wrote: Bill in Co. wrote: DaffyD® wrote: Well, here I am running W2K and boy do I wish I had 98SE back. It is so much more user friendly and simpler in design. I hate the admin and user accounts in 2000--it makes everything so much harder to find. True enough! That's one of the "advantages" of Win98SE (for a single user, I mean). Setup by design just for a single user; very nice and simple, and easy to keep track of *everything*. A very, very, lean operating system. (I think it's somewhere around 200 MB in total, isn't it?) My Windows folder is 286 folders, 5,307 files, 454,827,147 bytes. And Program Files is 323 folders, 3,905 files, 540,817,212 bytes. Program Files doesn't count! That's by far mostly your applications in there! We were talking about the operating system! And the reason your system folder is that large is due to all those updates you added and some stuff added by some applications, no doubt. Go check out your original installation size (if you still have a copy). I still think it's around 200 MB, as I said. WITHOUT applications and "updates" being installed/ On 2nd thought, yea, you are right, this machine came with a bunch of extra packages already installed, like MS Works. The stuff I've installed afterwards is all minor, though. Yea, you're likely correct, but I can't check it on this machine. I think it was somewhere around 200 MB, before installing apps. That's pretty lean! And IIRC, WinXP is about 10 times that (about 2 GB). But then again, WinXP is pretty damn robust by comparison, I do have to admit. And I bet Vista is 10 times that of WinXP!! (like maybe 20 GB) - ugh, forget Vista!! But to go back to 98SE would mean reformatting the hard drive and using my external drive (which doesn't work with 98) as a bookend. Maybe it can, with the right drivers. Or - you could always consider getting one that can, they aren't that expensive. I know you've done it. Would be nice if you could talk DaffyD® through it! My old scanner no longer works like it did since it was designed to work with 95 & 98; the images when printed are practically illegible. The frustrating thing is that had it been a USB scanner, I could download a compatible driver for 2000 but I dumbly bought a parallel port scanner back then. But I don't see myself going back to 98; it's just too limited in today's hardware/software/internet world. I just hope that the external drive will work with whatever is released after Vista. Is Win98SE really "more limited" in ALL software than Windows 2000? I'm not so sure that is true, at least for multimedia apps, anyways. Actually, I think Win98SE still has more software capability there (at least in this one arena). But still, the advantage of Win2000 is its robustness, I think. Like Windows XP (I'm still waiting to get a blue screen :-). XP has crashed on you, Colorado -- well-enough for you to do several registry restores & restore point restores & maybe even a full backup restore or two -- you've admitted it, IIRC! I don't care whether it gives a blue screen or an XP-irradiated sickly green one! No, not quite accurate. (I said I got blue screens in XP??? When)? But - I *have* done several registry or disk image restores in XP, but NOT due to blue screens! Those restore operations were done due to my desire to put my system back exactly as it was prior to some software installations (just to play it safe), and/or if some settings got changed that I didn't "appreciate" (and it was an easy way to get back). That's all, unless you remember something I don't. I'm still waiting for blue screens, unless you recall some I mentioned (in XP, I mean). No, I don't recall you said any color. But I was fairly sure you said you had a crash of some kind in XP. And I strongly suspect Terhune thinks so too! But "Hitchhiker's Guide" just started & I must go. So, fine, I'll try to remember you never crashed yet. I have had a couple of occasions where the computer locked up and I had to reboot, that's all (no blue or green screens, though). But no restore operation was necessary - it was just due to some software hiccups that occurred at the same time. I'm still going to be monitoring this newsgroup--it's my favorite of all the Windows groups. Good to see you you back, DaffyD®. Maybe try for the proper drivers as Colorado has suggested! -- DaffyD® If I Knew Where I Was I'd Be There Now. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR |
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I hate Windows 2000, miss W98 SE.
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I hate Windows 2000, miss W98 SE.
Well, here I am running W2K and boy do I wish I had 98SE back. It is so much
more user friendly and simpler in design. I hate the admin and user accounts in 2000--it makes everything so much harder to find. But to go back to 98SE would mean reformatting the hard drive and using my external drive (which doesn't work with 98) as a bookend. My old scanner no longer works like it did since it was designed to work with 95 & 98; the images when printed are practically illegible. The frustrating thing is that had it been a USB scanner, I could download a compatible driver for 2000 but I dumbly bought a parallel port scanner back then. But I don't see myself going back to 98; it's just too limited in today's hardware/software/internet world. I just hope that the external drive will work with whatever is released after Vista. I'm still going to be monitoring this newsgroup--it's my favorite of all the Windows groups. -- DaffyD® If I Knew Where I Was I'd Be There Now. |
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