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  #11  
Old February 6th 08, 04:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Alias[_21_]
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Default CCleaner

Dapper Dan wrote:
The recent thread on the CCleaner update prompted me to look at this utility
again. It has been several years but I seem to recall one of the experts
(Alias or Heirloom??) issuing a caution to use only the CLEANER component
and nothing else.

I have just looked at the utility and it appears to have some interesting
tools. Has anything changed over the years to make this utility safer?

Dan



If you're not having registry issues, best to leave the Issues feature
alone. As another poster pointed out, you can configure it to not nuke
cookies you want to keep for log on purposes, etc.

Alias
  #12  
Old February 6th 08, 05:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
oops!!
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Default CCleaner - IMPORTANT

Dan,

Do reboot whenever you run CCleaner and please do it immediately after the
cleanup.

Better safe than...

Zee


"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks Zee & 'Loom

Actually I did reboot, not because I knew I had to, but rather because I
usually do my maintenance in a "tricked" CLEAN BOOT environment (mvp Gary
S Terhune recommendation way back in the days of 98SE). Hmm, I'm just
thinking, I went in there again this morning and saved whatever cookies I
thought I needed and then reinserted the checkmark in COOKIES and ran it
one more time but this time I did not reboot.

If there's a chance that it messes up SR, should I flush it and start
anew?

Thanks for the support Gentlemen, it is certainly appreciated.

Dan

"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
Thanks Zee......I was just getting on to mention that!!! Hope Dan got it
in time. Another item I thought about after I saw Cookies
mentioned.....is the index.dat file setting. If you have Cookies
unchecked and the Index.dat files set to remove, it will remove the
/index.dat/ file from the Cookies folder, effectively rendering them
unuseable!! If you have specific websites, i.e. Weather, customized to
certain areas, you will lose this customization when the Cookies
index.dat file is removed at next boot. I have looked for a way to keep
the Cookie index.dat and remove the others, like from History, Temp
Internet, etc........but, no luck yet. Haven't really looked that hard
:-).
Heirloom, old and if someone know how, let me
know!!!


"oops!!" wrote in message
...
Something I missed that is a must on WinME:

ALWAYS, and I do mean ALWAYS, reboot after the cleanup or it may mess up
System Restore!

Zee


"oops!!" wrote in message
...
Dan,

Just adding on:

After the cleanup you can see the "Details of files deleted".

You can even save the details to a text file (Right-click and save).

You can also use Options Cookies and select the "Cookies to keep".

After selecting these you can safely delete all cookies, because
CCleaner will keep the ones you want.

Zee





"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks 'loom.

I used the utility last evening. I had just manually deleted all
things temp; at least I thought I had.

I used Disk Cleanup in System Tools, then deleted TIF, rebooted and
deleted %temp% via the run command. I then ran the "cleaner" component
of CCleaner, excluding Cookies, and it found an additional 44 MB of
junk. I didn't pay much attention as to where the junk was located but
I'm curious for the future because I thought I was clearing all the
junk in my weekly maintenance schedule.

I'll play with it over the next week or so and see how much more of
the utility I can use. Could be very interesting!

Dan
"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
't'weren't me that issued the caution, and, I am NO expert! I did,
however, state that I use the reg cleaner portion of this app for
specific cleanups...just because I find it easier than doing manual
cleaning when I wish to dispose of, for example, all things Norton
after dumping the app. As Zee stated, the reg cleaner can be risky,
especially, if left to its' own devices. I would never allow any
'auto' cleaning, I heavily scrutinize the items found and ALWAYS make
a backup of anything removed. As a result, I have never had any
problem with CC or what it does. I like it.
Heirloom, old and may have to turn the A/C off
tonight

"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks Zee

"oops!!" wrote in message
...
The risky part is the registry cleaner, as with ALL registry
cleaners.

The rest, IMO, is totally safe, useful and usable.

Zee





"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
The recent thread on the CCleaner update prompted me to look at
this utility again. It has been several years but I seem to recall
one of the experts (Alias or Heirloom??) issuing a caution to use
only the CLEANER component and nothing else.

I have just looked at the utility and it appears to have some
interesting tools. Has anything changed over the years to make
this utility safer?

Dan

























  #13  
Old February 6th 08, 05:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Heirloom[_3_]
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Posts: 235
Default CCleaner - IMPORTANT

I totally agree about the importance of the index.dat deletion. I could
give it another shot, but, it is such a pain in the butt to re-establish all
of my custom cookies if the index.dat is gone. I am running XP, could that
make a difference?? I will submit that my cookies do remain, but, they are
no longer recognized by IE....maybe you are using a different browser??
Heirloom, old and may get some help from this

"oops!!" wrote in message
...
I have had no problems with deleting the (in)famous index.dat file and
keeping the cookies I want to.

And if you enjoy your privacy deleting "index.dat" is a must.

But, then... maybe it's me being paranoid..??


Zee


"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
Thanks Zee......I was just getting on to mention that!!! Hope Dan got it
in time. Another item I thought about after I saw Cookies
mentioned.....is the index.dat file setting. If you have Cookies
unchecked and the Index.dat files set to remove, it will remove the
/index.dat/ file from the Cookies folder, effectively rendering them
unuseable!! If you have specific websites, i.e. Weather, customized to
certain areas, you will lose this customization when the Cookies
index.dat file is removed at next boot. I have looked for a way to keep
the Cookie index.dat and remove the others, like from History, Temp
Internet, etc........but, no luck yet. Haven't really looked that hard
:-).
Heirloom, old and if someone know how, let me
know!!!


"oops!!" wrote in message
...
Something I missed that is a must on WinME:

ALWAYS, and I do mean ALWAYS, reboot after the cleanup or it may mess up
System Restore!

Zee


"oops!!" wrote in message
...
Dan,

Just adding on:

After the cleanup you can see the "Details of files deleted".

You can even save the details to a text file (Right-click and save).

You can also use Options Cookies and select the "Cookies to keep".

After selecting these you can safely delete all cookies, because
CCleaner will keep the ones you want.

Zee





"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks 'loom.

I used the utility last evening. I had just manually deleted all
things temp; at least I thought I had.

I used Disk Cleanup in System Tools, then deleted TIF, rebooted and
deleted %temp% via the run command. I then ran the "cleaner" component
of CCleaner, excluding Cookies, and it found an additional 44 MB of
junk. I didn't pay much attention as to where the junk was located but
I'm curious for the future because I thought I was clearing all the
junk in my weekly maintenance schedule.

I'll play with it over the next week or so and see how much more of
the utility I can use. Could be very interesting!

Dan
"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
't'weren't me that issued the caution, and, I am NO expert! I did,
however, state that I use the reg cleaner portion of this app for
specific cleanups...just because I find it easier than doing manual
cleaning when I wish to dispose of, for example, all things Norton
after dumping the app. As Zee stated, the reg cleaner can be risky,
especially, if left to its' own devices. I would never allow any
'auto' cleaning, I heavily scrutinize the items found and ALWAYS make
a backup of anything removed. As a result, I have never had any
problem with CC or what it does. I like it.
Heirloom, old and may have to turn the A/C off
tonight

"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks Zee

"oops!!" wrote in message
...
The risky part is the registry cleaner, as with ALL registry
cleaners.

The rest, IMO, is totally safe, useful and usable.

Zee





"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
The recent thread on the CCleaner update prompted me to look at
this utility again. It has been several years but I seem to recall
one of the experts (Alias or Heirloom??) issuing a caution to use
only the CLEANER component and nothing else.

I have just looked at the utility and it appears to have some
interesting tools. Has anything changed over the years to make
this utility safer?

Dan

























  #14  
Old February 6th 08, 06:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
oops!!
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 156
Default CCleaner - IMPORTANT

WinXP, Firefox and IE.

But I do NOT clean "Autocomplete form history" (Cleaner section Windows
tab Internet Explorer UNtick).

That may be the reason for your "issues" with IE.

I also UNtick "Saved form information" in Applications tab
Firefox/Mozilla.

Those are my settings/preferences, tested and working fine for me.

Of course, other users may not like them.

Zee




"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
I totally agree about the importance of the index.dat deletion. I could
give it another shot, but, it is such a pain in the butt to re-establish
all of my custom cookies if the index.dat is gone. I am running XP, could
that make a difference?? I will submit that my cookies do remain, but,
they are no longer recognized by IE....maybe you are using a different
browser??
Heirloom, old and may get some help from this

"oops!!" wrote in message
...
I have had no problems with deleting the (in)famous index.dat file and
keeping the cookies I want to.

And if you enjoy your privacy deleting "index.dat" is a must.

But, then... maybe it's me being paranoid..??


Zee


"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
Thanks Zee......I was just getting on to mention that!!! Hope Dan got
it in time. Another item I thought about after I saw Cookies
mentioned.....is the index.dat file setting. If you have Cookies
unchecked and the Index.dat files set to remove, it will remove the
/index.dat/ file from the Cookies folder, effectively rendering them
unuseable!! If you have specific websites, i.e. Weather, customized to
certain areas, you will lose this customization when the Cookies
index.dat file is removed at next boot. I have looked for a way to keep
the Cookie index.dat and remove the others, like from History, Temp
Internet, etc........but, no luck yet. Haven't really looked that hard
:-).
Heirloom, old and if someone know how, let me
know!!!


"oops!!" wrote in message
...
Something I missed that is a must on WinME:

ALWAYS, and I do mean ALWAYS, reboot after the cleanup or it may mess
up System Restore!

Zee


"oops!!" wrote in message
...
Dan,

Just adding on:

After the cleanup you can see the "Details of files deleted".

You can even save the details to a text file (Right-click and save).

You can also use Options Cookies and select the "Cookies to keep".

After selecting these you can safely delete all cookies, because
CCleaner will keep the ones you want.

Zee





"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks 'loom.

I used the utility last evening. I had just manually deleted all
things temp; at least I thought I had.

I used Disk Cleanup in System Tools, then deleted TIF, rebooted and
deleted %temp% via the run command. I then ran the "cleaner"
component of CCleaner, excluding Cookies, and it found an additional
44 MB of junk. I didn't pay much attention as to where the junk was
located but I'm curious for the future because I thought I was
clearing all the junk in my weekly maintenance schedule.

I'll play with it over the next week or so and see how much more of
the utility I can use. Could be very interesting!

Dan
"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
't'weren't me that issued the caution, and, I am NO expert! I did,
however, state that I use the reg cleaner portion of this app for
specific cleanups...just because I find it easier than doing manual
cleaning when I wish to dispose of, for example, all things Norton
after dumping the app. As Zee stated, the reg cleaner can be risky,
especially, if left to its' own devices. I would never allow any
'auto' cleaning, I heavily scrutinize the items found and ALWAYS
make a backup of anything removed. As a result, I have never had any
problem with CC or what it does. I like it.
Heirloom, old and may have to turn the A/C off
tonight

"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks Zee

"oops!!" wrote in message
...
The risky part is the registry cleaner, as with ALL registry
cleaners.

The rest, IMO, is totally safe, useful and usable.

Zee





"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
The recent thread on the CCleaner update prompted me to look at
this utility again. It has been several years but I seem to
recall one of the experts (Alias or Heirloom??) issuing a caution
to use only the CLEANER component and nothing else.

I have just looked at the utility and it appears to have some
interesting tools. Has anything changed over the years to make
this utility safer?

Dan





























  #15  
Old February 6th 08, 08:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Heirloom[_3_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 235
Default CCleaner - IMPORTANT

That is how mine is set up. Only difference is that I have the index.dat
unchecked because of the cookie issue and I don't let it 'empty' my Recycle
Bin (I'll do that myself, thank you). I can't imagine why my cookies are
unrecognizable after cleaning the index.dat files. It is my understanding
that the file is re-created after every deletion, one would think it would
see the remaining cookies, since they are still in the appropriate
folder(s).
Heirloom, old and I just don't know

"oops!!" wrote in message
...
WinXP, Firefox and IE.

But I do NOT clean "Autocomplete form history" (Cleaner section Windows
tab Internet Explorer UNtick).

That may be the reason for your "issues" with IE.

I also UNtick "Saved form information" in Applications tab
Firefox/Mozilla.

Those are my settings/preferences, tested and working fine for me.

Of course, other users may not like them.

Zee




"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
I totally agree about the importance of the index.dat deletion. I could
give it another shot, but, it is such a pain in the butt to re-establish
all of my custom cookies if the index.dat is gone. I am running XP, could
that make a difference?? I will submit that my cookies do remain, but,
they are no longer recognized by IE....maybe you are using a different
browser??
Heirloom, old and may get some help from this

"oops!!" wrote in message
...
I have had no problems with deleting the (in)famous index.dat file and
keeping the cookies I want to.

And if you enjoy your privacy deleting "index.dat" is a must.

But, then... maybe it's me being paranoid..??


Zee


"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
Thanks Zee......I was just getting on to mention that!!! Hope Dan got
it in time. Another item I thought about after I saw Cookies
mentioned.....is the index.dat file setting. If you have Cookies
unchecked and the Index.dat files set to remove, it will remove the
/index.dat/ file from the Cookies folder, effectively rendering them
unuseable!! If you have specific websites, i.e. Weather, customized to
certain areas, you will lose this customization when the Cookies
index.dat file is removed at next boot. I have looked for a way to
keep the Cookie index.dat and remove the others, like from History,
Temp Internet, etc........but, no luck yet. Haven't really looked
that hard :-).
Heirloom, old and if someone know how, let me
know!!!


"oops!!" wrote in message
...
Something I missed that is a must on WinME:

ALWAYS, and I do mean ALWAYS, reboot after the cleanup or it may mess
up System Restore!

Zee


"oops!!" wrote in message
...
Dan,

Just adding on:

After the cleanup you can see the "Details of files deleted".

You can even save the details to a text file (Right-click and save).

You can also use Options Cookies and select the "Cookies to keep".

After selecting these you can safely delete all cookies, because
CCleaner will keep the ones you want.

Zee





"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks 'loom.

I used the utility last evening. I had just manually deleted all
things temp; at least I thought I had.

I used Disk Cleanup in System Tools, then deleted TIF, rebooted and
deleted %temp% via the run command. I then ran the "cleaner"
component of CCleaner, excluding Cookies, and it found an additional
44 MB of junk. I didn't pay much attention as to where the junk was
located but I'm curious for the future because I thought I was
clearing all the junk in my weekly maintenance schedule.

I'll play with it over the next week or so and see how much more of
the utility I can use. Could be very interesting!

Dan
"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
't'weren't me that issued the caution, and, I am NO expert! I did,
however, state that I use the reg cleaner portion of this app for
specific cleanups...just because I find it easier than doing manual
cleaning when I wish to dispose of, for example, all things Norton
after dumping the app. As Zee stated, the reg cleaner can be risky,
especially, if left to its' own devices. I would never allow any
'auto' cleaning, I heavily scrutinize the items found and ALWAYS
make a backup of anything removed. As a result, I have never had
any problem with CC or what it does. I like it.
Heirloom, old and may have to turn the A/C off
tonight

"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks Zee

"oops!!" wrote in message
...
The risky part is the registry cleaner, as with ALL registry
cleaners.

The rest, IMO, is totally safe, useful and usable.

Zee





"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
The recent thread on the CCleaner update prompted me to look at
this utility again. It has been several years but I seem to
recall one of the experts (Alias or Heirloom??) issuing a
caution to use only the CLEANER component and nothing else.

I have just looked at the utility and it appears to have some
interesting tools. Has anything changed over the years to make
this utility safer?

Dan































  #16  
Old February 7th 08, 12:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Dapper Dan
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Posts: 166
Default CCleaner

Thanks Alias.


"Alias" wrote in message
...
Dapper Dan wrote:
The recent thread on the CCleaner update prompted me to look at this
utility again. It has been several years but I seem to recall one of the
experts (Alias or Heirloom??) issuing a caution to use only the CLEANER
component and nothing else.

I have just looked at the utility and it appears to have some interesting
tools. Has anything changed over the years to make this utility safer?

Dan


If you're not having registry issues, best to leave the Issues feature
alone. As another poster pointed out, you can configure it to not nuke
cookies you want to keep for log on purposes, etc.

Alias



  #17  
Old February 7th 08, 01:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Alias[_21_]
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Posts: 16
Default CCleaner

Dapper Dan wrote:
Thanks Alias.


You're welcome.

Alias


"Alias" wrote in message
...
Dapper Dan wrote:
The recent thread on the CCleaner update prompted me to look at this
utility again. It has been several years but I seem to recall one of the
experts (Alias or Heirloom??) issuing a caution to use only the CLEANER
component and nothing else.

I have just looked at the utility and it appears to have some interesting
tools. Has anything changed over the years to make this utility safer?

Dan

If you're not having registry issues, best to leave the Issues feature
alone. As another poster pointed out, you can configure it to not nuke
cookies you want to keep for log on purposes, etc.

Alias



 




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