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Dual Boot with 250GB hdd, can I with 98se or Me?
Well, I bought a 250GB Seagate hdd (Pata) to make it my new boot device
(on a Athlon Xp 2000, Kudoz motherboard, 768MB Ram - my Bios recognize correctly new boy's size). On my current boot (and only) hdd I've got 4 Fat32 partitions, with 98SE on C: and XpPro on D: What do I do to maintain this dual boot configuration with the new hdd, given that 98SE won't work with a drive larger than 137GB? Is there some trick I don't know now? Would it be effective to replace 98SE with Me? Thanks in advance, Lete -- "Fummo andati in Brasile e comprammo Juary..." "Presidente... 'Siamo'..." "Dicevo che fummo andati in Brasile e compr..." "SIAMO!" "Ma che si' venuto pure tu?" (Antonio Sibilia) |
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Dual Boot with 250GB hdd, can I with 98se or Me?
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:18:06 GMT, Lete wrote:
Well, I bought a 250GB Seagate hdd (Pata) to make it my new boot device (on a Athlon Xp 2000, Kudoz motherboard, 768MB Ram - my Bios recognize correctly new boy's size). On my current boot (and only) hdd I've got 4 Fat32 partitions, with 98SE on C: and XpPro on D: What do I do to maintain this dual boot configuration with the new hdd, given that 98SE won't work with a drive larger than 137GB? I am assuming that your old disk is less than 137GB and has 1 primary and 3 extended partitions. If it is acceptable that only XP can see the space past 137GB you could mirror your current disk to the new one and then create 2 NTFS primary partitions in the remaining space. 98SE will see the two NTFS entries in the MBR but won't try to access the partitions as it doesn't know the file system. XP will see them and be able to access them. -- Steven |
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Dual Boot with 250GB hdd, can I with 98se or Me?
I'm afraid you're up the creek with that. In my opinion your best
option for the problem at hand is using a controller card like this: http://www.promise.com/product/produ...roduct_i d=87 The Promise ultra 133 tx2 is a very good choice but this type of card is available from other manufacturers. Another benefit of using a controller card solution is that the data transfer work is done by the controller hardware thus lightening the load on the CPU. Just make sure that the proper Windows 98/Me drivers are available before you buy. You other alternatives such as DDO (Disk Drive Overlay) are pretty messy! You might find helpful information he http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/di...137/index.html http://www.48bitlba.com/ John Lete wrote: Well, I bought a 250GB Seagate hdd (Pata) to make it my new boot device (on a Athlon Xp 2000, Kudoz motherboard, 768MB Ram - my Bios recognize correctly new boy's size). On my current boot (and only) hdd I've got 4 Fat32 partitions, with 98SE on C: and XpPro on D: What do I do to maintain this dual boot configuration with the new hdd, given that 98SE won't work with a drive larger than 137GB? Is there some trick I don't know now? Would it be effective to replace 98SE with Me? Thanks in advance, Lete |
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Dual Boot with 250GB hdd, can I with 98se or Me?
Steven Saunderson ha scritto:
I am assuming that your old disk is less than 137GB and has 1 primary and 3 extended partitions. Exactly this way, an 80GB Maxtor partitioned 3-15-20-42 or something like that. If it is acceptable that only XP can see the space past 137GB And it may be highly acceptable. you could mirror your current disk to the new one and then create 2 NTFS primary partitions in the remaining space. Can't I create a single 113GB NTFS partition, instead of 2? Just a curiosity, it doesn't matter much really. 98SE will see the two NTFS entries in the MBR but won't try to access the partitions as it doesn't know the file system. XP will see them and be able to access them. Sounds good. Would it be different with WinMe? Lete -- "Fummo andati in Brasile e comprammo Juary..." "Presidente... 'Siamo'..." "Dicevo che fummo andati in Brasile e compr..." "SIAMO!" "Ma che si' venuto pure tu?" (Antonio Sibilia) |
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Dual Boot with 250GB hdd, can I with 98se or Me?
John John ha scritto:
You might find helpful information he http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/di...137/index.html http://www.48bitlba.com/ What about the 48-bit patches there on 48bitlba.com? Are they safe? Lots of posts (here too) say that filling a large drive over that 137GB limits means that the FAT will go nuts and some data will be lost... is that the case even with those patches? I know that a 3rd party hw controller would be the safest bet, but my usage of 98SE is not frequent enough to justify another card inside the case... Lete -- "Fummo andati in Brasile e comprammo Juary..." "Presidente... 'Siamo'..." "Dicevo che fummo andati in Brasile e compr..." "SIAMO!" "Ma che si' venuto pure tu?" (Antonio Sibilia) |
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Dual Boot with 250GB hdd, can I with 98se or Me?
Lete wrote:
John John ha scritto: You might find helpful information he http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/di...137/index.html http://www.48bitlba.com/ What about the 48-bit patches there on 48bitlba.com? Are they safe? Lots of posts (here too) say that filling a large drive over that 137GB limits means that the FAT will go nuts and some data will be lost... is that the case even with those patches? I know that a 3rd party hw controller would be the safest bet, but my usage of 98SE is not frequent enough to justify another card inside the case... Quite frankly I personally wouldn't use these, but that is not to say that they are bad or unsafe, just that I disdain these sort of fixes and would only use them if I had absolutely no other choice. I offered the link for information only, not as an endorsement. Maybe someone else in these groups has experience with these and can comment on them. My recommendation remains with the Promise controller card, costs about $50 to $100 depending on where you make the purchase. This will overcome the problem and you will be able to fully use the drive without FAT issues, I dare say that you will be very satisfied with this solution if you decide to go that route. Even your Windows XP should gain improved performance with the controller card option. If you burn cd's or copy data between drives you will defenitely see an improvement if you can keep your IDE devices on separate controllers. With the TX2 you will have 4 independent IDE controllers, (2 on the mobo and 2 on the card), really works well! John |
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Dual Boot with 250GB hdd, can I with 98se or Me?
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 14:03:26 GMT, Lete wrote:
you could mirror your current disk to the new one and then create 2 NTFS primary partitions in the remaining space. Can't I create a single 113GB NTFS partition, instead of 2? Just a curiosity, it doesn't matter much really. Yes, it will be okay. But it doesn't have to be 113GB. The new primary partition could start at 80GB and extend to 250GB giving you 170GB. Or you could have a partition that goes from 80GB to 137GB and make it FAT32 so W98 and XP can both see it, and then create a final partition that goes from 137GB to 250GB. 98SE will see the two NTFS entries in the MBR but won't try to access the partitions as it doesn't know the file system. XP will see them and be able to access them. Sounds good. Would it be different with WinMe? No, ME should be the same as 98 I believe. If you can clone your 80GB disk to the 250GB (sector by sector copy) you should be then able to replace your 80GB disk and your system will dual boot just like it does now. If you then run XP and use its disk admin utility you can create the new partition(s). -- Steven |
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Dual Boot with 250GB hdd, can I with 98se or Me?
There's a problem in the esdi506.pdr standard 9x driver that wraps addresses
when you address over 137 G. Assuming you have 48-bit LBA and Int13h extensions in your BIOS, then you can use Rudolph Loew's patch (he charges $10 for it: http://members.aol.com/rloew1/index.htm and offers a free demo version that is limited to 136G). I seem to recall that the Intel Accelerator patch will do it if you are using the requisite Intel chipset. But the other poster is correct in that if you use a PCI card with its own add-in BIOS, then you get full 48-bit LBA if you don't already have it, and they provide a patch (in what they call a 'driver') to take care of the problem with esdi506.pdr. There's another problem, however, as regards the disk utilities, defrag and scandisk. They aren't set up for larger than 137G explicitly, and I've never had the courage to try experimenting with them. Hth, Joe "Lete" wrote in message ... John John ha scritto: You might find helpful information he http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/di...137/index.html http://www.48bitlba.com/ What about the 48-bit patches there on 48bitlba.com? Are they safe? Lots of posts (here too) say that filling a large drive over that 137GB limits means that the FAT will go nuts and some data will be lost... is that the case even with those patches? I know that a 3rd party hw controller would be the safest bet, but my usage of 98SE is not frequent enough to justify another card inside the case... Lete -- "Fummo andati in Brasile e comprammo Juary..." "Presidente... 'Siamo'..." "Dicevo che fummo andati in Brasile e compr..." "SIAMO!" "Ma che si' venuto pure tu?" (Antonio Sibilia) |
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