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  #41  
Old January 15th 10, 06:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_17_]
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Posts: 1,830
Default Network 98se to win2000

On 01/14/2010 08:09 PM, Hot-text wrote:
I say my 98 call himself a 95 not your 98 just my !
it's because I running my 98 as a NT Server that OVER your Head to Know
why are how!


Over my head huh, I see you and I are going to have difficulties.


Did you chick IE all we need to Know from you?


Having difficulty reading, I advised EXACTLY what I had.


"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 06:42 PM, Hot-text wrote:
My Win98 say it a Windows 95 too... But it not!


Huh, where does it say its Win95?


you say that you have IE5.5 but it not go to C:\Program Files\Internet
Explorer , Right Hand Click Iexplore.exe
Click on Version it will be 6.00.2800.1106 that is a IE6 SP1
just To see if I right .


Which one? In one installation the version IS IE6 since I used the
Security Updates CD during installation. in another its IE5.1 [manually
updated], in another its IE5.5 updated online... so YOURS may be IE6,
that does not mean it was required, just what you did.


"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 05:59 PM, Hot-text wrote:
Windows Update need at least IE6 to RUN Windows Update!


No it doesn't [or didn't]. It is *recommended* to use IE6 [which was
not recommended for installation in Win98FE], as of my last test cycle
[about three months now] it still can be accessed with IE5.1 and
functions, though the FIRST update is/was to IE5.5 and its updates.


"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 03:18 PM, mc wrote:
"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 01:23 PM, mc wrote:
When I'm trying to log my win98 into a win2000 computer a logon
window
pops
up that has one line that says
Resource \\Name\lPC andn then another line for the password.
My other computers only need to type the administrator name to log
into
the
win2000 computer (No password needed).
How do I change the 'Resource' line(grayed out) on the win98
computer or
how
do I get this pop up window to accept a password?
mc



So you got the other issues corrected then?
[reference: this group's query - WinFE]
What did you do to correct those issues?
I,m still working on the winFE problem with the out of range ip
addresses. I
may just upgrade to SE...


--
MEB

Before you do that, use Windows Update to update the WinFE computer
which you previously indicated was at base "re-installed" level [you
need at least IE5.1 installed to access the site, IE5.5 can reduce
the
necessary downloads].
You can find IE5.5 (or others) on evolt:

http://browsers.evolt.org/?ie/win32

The links I provided previously in the other discussion and in this
discussion should help, AFTER updating, to resolve your issues.

--
MEB

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---



--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---




--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---
  #42  
Old January 15th 10, 07:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_17_]
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Default Network 98se to win2000

On 01/14/2010 08:43 PM, mc wrote:
Thanks for the links MEB,
I'll try out Kerio....

I was warned by Kaspersky after clicking on this link
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareguard.html
and then getting re-directed to a Majorgeeks web page (beware)
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download3045.html
that a dangerous Trojan was noted

mc



The SpywareGuard does cause some AV to report it as malware because it
works as a TSR in the system and may contain code indicators. As for
Major Geeks, at one time the site or maybe some advertising] TRIED to
use a font injection, though that was several years ago unless something
new is going on. They are/were associated with tribalfusion, and I would
imagine hundreds of thousands of users have downloaded files from there.
There are quite a few programmers who ONLY offer their software on that
site since it has so many visitors and a long reputation for clean
software. I can't vouch for them so...

http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/majorgeeks.com
We tested this site and didn't find any significant problems.

http://www.UnmaskParasites.com/secur...majorgeeks.com

Looking at the source for the page shows google links and LOTS of JAVA,
some off-site links and direct pulls, and.. nothing overly suspicious.

Its an old program that worked as protection against .exe, cab, some
other issues, though not updated for years, so you could probably avoid
its installation.

So what was the supposed trojan?

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---
  #43  
Old January 15th 10, 07:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_17_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,830
Default Network 98se to win2000

On 01/14/2010 08:43 PM, mc wrote:
Thanks for the links MEB,
I'll try out Kerio....

I was warned by Kaspersky after clicking on this link
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareguard.html
and then getting re-directed to a Majorgeeks web page (beware)
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download3045.html
that a dangerous Trojan was noted

mc



The SpywareGuard does cause some AV to report it as malware because it
works as a TSR in the system and may contain code indicators. As for
Major Geeks, at one time the site or maybe some advertising] TRIED to
use a font injection, though that was several years ago unless something
new is going on. They are/were associated with tribalfusion, and I would
imagine hundreds of thousands of users have downloaded files from there.
There are quite a few programmers who ONLY offer their software on that
site since it has so many visitors and a long reputation for clean
software. I can't vouch for them so...

http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/majorgeeks.com
We tested this site and didn't find any significant problems.

http://www.UnmaskParasites.com/secur...majorgeeks.com

Looking at the source for the page shows google links and LOTS of JAVA,
some off-site links and direct pulls, and.. nothing overly suspicious.

Its an old program that worked as protection against .exe, cab, some
other issues, though not updated for years, so you could probably avoid
its installation.

So what was the supposed trojan?

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---
  #44  
Old January 15th 10, 07:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
Hot-text
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Posts: 1,026
Default Network 98se to win2000

You Say:::IE5.5: EXACTLY what you have !
Now we know that windows 98 SE out of the box with IE 5.1
and Window Update will not work with it....
SO we have go up say to IE5.5 to use Window Update right or
How hi up would you said that one need to go from IE 5.1 to get Window
Update to work?





"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 08:09 PM, Hot-text wrote:
I say my 98 call himself a 95 not your 98 just my !
it's because I running my 98 as a NT Server that OVER your Head to Know
why are how!


Over my head huh, I see you and I are going to have difficulties.


Did you chick IE all we need to Know from you?


Having difficulty reading, I advised EXACTLY what I had.


"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 06:42 PM, Hot-text wrote:
My Win98 say it a Windows 95 too... But it not!

Huh, where does it say its Win95?


you say that you have IE5.5 but it not go to C:\Program Files\Internet
Explorer , Right Hand Click Iexplore.exe
Click on Version it will be 6.00.2800.1106 that is a IE6 SP1
just To see if I right .


Which one? In one installation the version IS IE6 since I used the
Security Updates CD during installation. in another its IE5.1 [manually
updated], in another its IE5.5 updated online... so YOURS may be IE6,
that does not mean it was required, just what you did.


"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 05:59 PM, Hot-text wrote:
Windows Update need at least IE6 to RUN Windows Update!


No it doesn't [or didn't]. It is *recommended* to use IE6 [which was
not recommended for installation in Win98FE], as of my last test cycle
[about three months now] it still can be accessed with IE5.1 and
functions, though the FIRST update is/was to IE5.5 and its updates.


"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 03:18 PM, mc wrote:
"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 01:23 PM, mc wrote:
When I'm trying to log my win98 into a win2000 computer a logon
window
pops
up that has one line that says
Resource \\Name\lPC andn then another line for the password.
My other computers only need to type the administrator name to
log
into
the
win2000 computer (No password needed).
How do I change the 'Resource' line(grayed out) on the win98
computer or
how
do I get this pop up window to accept a password?
mc



So you got the other issues corrected then?
[reference: this group's query - WinFE]
What did you do to correct those issues?
I,m still working on the winFE problem with the out of range ip
addresses. I
may just upgrade to SE...


--
MEB

Before you do that, use Windows Update to update the WinFE computer
which you previously indicated was at base "re-installed" level [you
need at least IE5.1 installed to access the site, IE5.5 can reduce
the
necessary downloads].
You can find IE5.5 (or others) on evolt:

http://browsers.evolt.org/?ie/win32

The links I provided previously in the other discussion and in this
discussion should help, AFTER updating, to resolve your issues.

--
MEB

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---



--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---




--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---


  #45  
Old January 15th 10, 07:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
Hot-text
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,026
Default Network 98se to win2000

You Say:::IE5.5: EXACTLY what you have !
Now we know that windows 98 SE out of the box with IE 5.1
and Window Update will not work with it....
SO we have go up say to IE5.5 to use Window Update right or
How hi up would you said that one need to go from IE 5.1 to get Window
Update to work?





"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 08:09 PM, Hot-text wrote:
I say my 98 call himself a 95 not your 98 just my !
it's because I running my 98 as a NT Server that OVER your Head to Know
why are how!


Over my head huh, I see you and I are going to have difficulties.


Did you chick IE all we need to Know from you?


Having difficulty reading, I advised EXACTLY what I had.


"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 06:42 PM, Hot-text wrote:
My Win98 say it a Windows 95 too... But it not!

Huh, where does it say its Win95?


you say that you have IE5.5 but it not go to C:\Program Files\Internet
Explorer , Right Hand Click Iexplore.exe
Click on Version it will be 6.00.2800.1106 that is a IE6 SP1
just To see if I right .


Which one? In one installation the version IS IE6 since I used the
Security Updates CD during installation. in another its IE5.1 [manually
updated], in another its IE5.5 updated online... so YOURS may be IE6,
that does not mean it was required, just what you did.


"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 05:59 PM, Hot-text wrote:
Windows Update need at least IE6 to RUN Windows Update!


No it doesn't [or didn't]. It is *recommended* to use IE6 [which was
not recommended for installation in Win98FE], as of my last test cycle
[about three months now] it still can be accessed with IE5.1 and
functions, though the FIRST update is/was to IE5.5 and its updates.


"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 03:18 PM, mc wrote:
"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 01:23 PM, mc wrote:
When I'm trying to log my win98 into a win2000 computer a logon
window
pops
up that has one line that says
Resource \\Name\lPC andn then another line for the password.
My other computers only need to type the administrator name to
log
into
the
win2000 computer (No password needed).
How do I change the 'Resource' line(grayed out) on the win98
computer or
how
do I get this pop up window to accept a password?
mc



So you got the other issues corrected then?
[reference: this group's query - WinFE]
What did you do to correct those issues?
I,m still working on the winFE problem with the out of range ip
addresses. I
may just upgrade to SE...


--
MEB

Before you do that, use Windows Update to update the WinFE computer
which you previously indicated was at base "re-installed" level [you
need at least IE5.1 installed to access the site, IE5.5 can reduce
the
necessary downloads].
You can find IE5.5 (or others) on evolt:

http://browsers.evolt.org/?ie/win32

The links I provided previously in the other discussion and in this
discussion should help, AFTER updating, to resolve your issues.

--
MEB

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---



--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---




--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---


  #46  
Old January 15th 10, 08:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_17_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,830
Default Network 98se to win2000

On 01/15/2010 01:42 AM, Hot-text wrote:
You Say:::IE5.5: EXACTLY what you have !
Now we know that windows 98 SE out of the box with IE 5.1


No Win98 comes "out of the box" with:

Here's a chart style.

IE Version Shipped With
1.0 Win 95 PLUS pack (not part of Win95 by default)
2.0 Win NT4
3.0 Win 95 OSR2
4.0 Win 98
5.0 Win 98 SE and Win 2000
5.5 Win Millennium Edition (ME)
6.0 Win XP Home/Pro
7.0 VISTA
8.0 Windows 7

IE5.1 was the minimum [not IE5.0 base level which is what you get]
which used to function on WU. To have IE5.1 required you obtain or
already have the updates to bring it to that level in a new install.
WHY?
Likely to force users to install IE6 which was PLASTERED all over the
Internet and offered on almost every CD from suppliers of games and
other [during the Win98 support period AFTER IE6.0 was released]... the
site used to require only IE4 ,then IE5.0, then IE5.1.

I said - I have IE5.1, IE5.5, IE6.0 SP1 [in Win98SE].

and Window Update will not work with it....
SO we have go up say to IE5.5 to use Window Update right or
How hi up would you said that one need to go from IE 5.1 to get
Window Update to work?


Well, if it turns your crank, you could test it yourself via the evolt
browser link I provided and tell us what version it NOW requires verses
the IE5.1 it required as of a few months ago [though it did require Sun
JAVA installed].


"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 08:09 PM, Hot-text wrote:
I say my 98 call himself a 95 not your 98 just my !
it's because I running my 98 as a NT Server that OVER your Head to Know
why are how!


Over my head huh, I see you and I are going to have difficulties.


Did you chick IE all we need to Know from you?


Having difficulty reading, I advised EXACTLY what I had.


"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 06:42 PM, Hot-text wrote:
My Win98 say it a Windows 95 too... But it not!

Huh, where does it say its Win95?


you say that you have IE5.5 but it not go to C:\Program
Files\Internet
Explorer , Right Hand Click Iexplore.exe
Click on Version it will be 6.00.2800.1106 that is a IE6 SP1
just To see if I right .


Which one? In one installation the version IS IE6 since I used the
Security Updates CD during installation. in another its IE5.1 [manually
updated], in another its IE5.5 updated online... so YOURS may be IE6,
that does not mean it was required, just what you did.


"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 05:59 PM, Hot-text wrote:
Windows Update need at least IE6 to RUN Windows Update!


No it doesn't [or didn't]. It is *recommended* to use IE6 [which was
not recommended for installation in Win98FE], as of my last test
cycle
[about three months now] it still can be accessed with IE5.1 and
functions, though the FIRST update is/was to IE5.5 and its updates.


"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 03:18 PM, mc wrote:
"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 01:23 PM, mc wrote:
When I'm trying to log my win98 into a win2000 computer a logon
window
pops
up that has one line that says
Resource \\Name\lPC andn then another line for the password.
My other computers only need to type the administrator name
to log
into
the
win2000 computer (No password needed).
How do I change the 'Resource' line(grayed out) on the win98
computer or
how
do I get this pop up window to accept a password?
mc



So you got the other issues corrected then?
[reference: this group's query - WinFE]
What did you do to correct those issues?
I,m still working on the winFE problem with the out of range ip
addresses. I
may just upgrade to SE...


--
MEB

Before you do that, use Windows Update to update the WinFE computer
which you previously indicated was at base "re-installed" level
[you
need at least IE5.1 installed to access the site, IE5.5 can reduce
the
necessary downloads].
You can find IE5.5 (or others) on evolt:

http://browsers.evolt.org/?ie/win32

The links I provided previously in the other discussion and in this
discussion should help, AFTER updating, to resolve your issues.

--
MEB

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---



--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---



--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---




--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---
  #47  
Old January 15th 10, 08:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_17_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,830
Default Network 98se to win2000

On 01/15/2010 01:42 AM, Hot-text wrote:
You Say:::IE5.5: EXACTLY what you have !
Now we know that windows 98 SE out of the box with IE 5.1


No Win98 comes "out of the box" with:

Here's a chart style.

IE Version Shipped With
1.0 Win 95 PLUS pack (not part of Win95 by default)
2.0 Win NT4
3.0 Win 95 OSR2
4.0 Win 98
5.0 Win 98 SE and Win 2000
5.5 Win Millennium Edition (ME)
6.0 Win XP Home/Pro
7.0 VISTA
8.0 Windows 7

IE5.1 was the minimum [not IE5.0 base level which is what you get]
which used to function on WU. To have IE5.1 required you obtain or
already have the updates to bring it to that level in a new install.
WHY?
Likely to force users to install IE6 which was PLASTERED all over the
Internet and offered on almost every CD from suppliers of games and
other [during the Win98 support period AFTER IE6.0 was released]... the
site used to require only IE4 ,then IE5.0, then IE5.1.

I said - I have IE5.1, IE5.5, IE6.0 SP1 [in Win98SE].

and Window Update will not work with it....
SO we have go up say to IE5.5 to use Window Update right or
How hi up would you said that one need to go from IE 5.1 to get
Window Update to work?


Well, if it turns your crank, you could test it yourself via the evolt
browser link I provided and tell us what version it NOW requires verses
the IE5.1 it required as of a few months ago [though it did require Sun
JAVA installed].


"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 08:09 PM, Hot-text wrote:
I say my 98 call himself a 95 not your 98 just my !
it's because I running my 98 as a NT Server that OVER your Head to Know
why are how!


Over my head huh, I see you and I are going to have difficulties.


Did you chick IE all we need to Know from you?


Having difficulty reading, I advised EXACTLY what I had.


"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 06:42 PM, Hot-text wrote:
My Win98 say it a Windows 95 too... But it not!

Huh, where does it say its Win95?


you say that you have IE5.5 but it not go to C:\Program
Files\Internet
Explorer , Right Hand Click Iexplore.exe
Click on Version it will be 6.00.2800.1106 that is a IE6 SP1
just To see if I right .


Which one? In one installation the version IS IE6 since I used the
Security Updates CD during installation. in another its IE5.1 [manually
updated], in another its IE5.5 updated online... so YOURS may be IE6,
that does not mean it was required, just what you did.


"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 05:59 PM, Hot-text wrote:
Windows Update need at least IE6 to RUN Windows Update!


No it doesn't [or didn't]. It is *recommended* to use IE6 [which was
not recommended for installation in Win98FE], as of my last test
cycle
[about three months now] it still can be accessed with IE5.1 and
functions, though the FIRST update is/was to IE5.5 and its updates.


"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 03:18 PM, mc wrote:
"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 01/14/2010 01:23 PM, mc wrote:
When I'm trying to log my win98 into a win2000 computer a logon
window
pops
up that has one line that says
Resource \\Name\lPC andn then another line for the password.
My other computers only need to type the administrator name
to log
into
the
win2000 computer (No password needed).
How do I change the 'Resource' line(grayed out) on the win98
computer or
how
do I get this pop up window to accept a password?
mc



So you got the other issues corrected then?
[reference: this group's query - WinFE]
What did you do to correct those issues?
I,m still working on the winFE problem with the out of range ip
addresses. I
may just upgrade to SE...


--
MEB

Before you do that, use Windows Update to update the WinFE computer
which you previously indicated was at base "re-installed" level
[you
need at least IE5.1 installed to access the site, IE5.5 can reduce
the
necessary downloads].
You can find IE5.5 (or others) on evolt:

http://browsers.evolt.org/?ie/win32

The links I provided previously in the other discussion and in this
discussion should help, AFTER updating, to resolve your issues.

--
MEB

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---



--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---



--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---




--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---
  #48  
Old January 15th 10, 02:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
mc
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 67
Default Network 98se to win2000

MEB
I downloaded Kerio but I do not see where you download any rule sets?
From what I see on the web Sunbelt now controls this version of Kerio?
mc


  #49  
Old January 15th 10, 02:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
mc
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 67
Default Network 98se to win2000

MEB
I downloaded Kerio but I do not see where you download any rule sets?
From what I see on the web Sunbelt now controls this version of Kerio?
mc


  #50  
Old January 15th 10, 05:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
mc
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 67
Default Network 98se to win2000

MEB
You were correct...
I updated win98FE and now the network connectionworks, much thanks..
The Kerio firewall is a handy little program..and small in size..
mc


 




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