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Old March 26th 05, 11:00 PM
Rick Chauvin
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PA Bear wrote:
X-Posting to Win95 and WinME NGs eliminated.

Rick, I don't think MS05-002/KB891711 has anything to do with the issue
about which you post.


Hi Robert,
You have totally misunderstood my post. I'm sorry you did.
Of course we all knowMS05-002/KB891711 has nothing to do with the link I
gave. http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm

As I said I took this extra opportunity to tag onto Jerry Bryant MCSE,
MCDBA post to express to the MS coders about another important issue that is
of great importance for 9x to get fixed - besides what the OP is about.
I apologize for tagging onto it, but felt it was important enough.

(As you know, my position is that IE6 with SP1 installed has
fixed your issue for the vast majority of Win98 users.)


Again here too Robert I have no idea what you are referring to, but surely
you are mistaken here of what we are talking about which has been well
confirmed in this 9x newsgroup a hundred times over the last 2 years;
thousands of times elsewhere. The issue that the link
http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm speaks about was never
fixed and I can guarantee it's 100% immutable that the problem does exist for
W98x. I would of not stuck my neck out to make my post if it wasn't. I
guess you don't know me.

The problem is old news but for heavens sake Robert earlier just today even
your own Extremely capable MVP Chris Quirke (cquirke) is onboard with this
issue and actually uses 9x to know. Listen up:


Rick


--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (Shell, IE/OE) & Security

Mastering Newsgroups in Outlook Express
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...ewsgroups.mspx

Rick Chauvin wrote:
Jerry Bryant,

I do appreciate MS re-working this 891711 issue. Thank you to MS.

Let me take this opportunity to ask you to pass this along as well in high
hopes this problem will be addressed once and for all. It's a big problem
for 9x users and I can't imagine it's anything but embarrassing for MS to
leave this bug the way it is. We even have people making webpages talking
about and trying to help people get around the problem.
Please show this link to whomever is in charge as it outlines the problem
I'm speaking of pretty well, which has been talked about in the 9x group
for 2 years now, and so please ask them to finally fix what the problem
is, please, thank you.

http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm

Rick


Jerry Bryant [MSFT] wrote:
Microsoft has received reports about issues with KB891711 on Windows 98,
Windows 98 SE and Windows ME. At this point, we have been able to
confirm these reports and are currently working on a resolution.

Please note that by uninstalling the current update, the machine will
return to a vulnerable state. At this point, we are currently not
aware of customer's being exploited by way of the vulnerability fixed
in MS05-002 on Windows 98, Windows 98 SE and Windows ME. If you need
additional assistance regarding this update, please contact +1 (866)
PCSAFETY. When calling, please indicate that you are having issues with
a security update. --
Regards,

Jerry Bryant - MCSE, MCDBA
Microsoft IT Communities

Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security


This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.










  #13  
Old March 26th 05, 11:22 PM
Gary S. Terhune
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FWIW, I seriously doubt that Jerry B. is going to read any replies to
his post. It was a notice, nothing more. They've been able to repro the
issue, which usually means that further user input is probably not
needed. We just have to wait to see what they work out.

However, I *did* drop your entire post into the same hopper I used for
the KB891711 issue (the track that finally got some action, or at least
some public acknowledgement of the problem.) We'll have to wait to see
what, if anything, comes of it.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Rick Chauvin" wrote in message
...
PA Bear wrote:
X-Posting to Win95 and WinME NGs eliminated.

Rick, I don't think MS05-002/KB891711 has anything to do with the

issue
about which you post.


Hi Robert,
You have totally misunderstood my post. I'm sorry you did.
Of course we all knowMS05-002/KB891711 has nothing to do with the link

I
gave. http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm

As I said I took this extra opportunity to tag onto Jerry Bryant MCSE,
MCDBA post to express to the MS coders about another important issue

that is
of great importance for 9x to get fixed - besides what the OP is

about.
I apologize for tagging onto it, but felt it was important enough.

(As you know, my position is that IE6 with SP1 installed has
fixed your issue for the vast majority of Win98 users.)


Again here too Robert I have no idea what you are referring to, but

surely
you are mistaken here of what we are talking about which has been well
confirmed in this 9x newsgroup a hundred times over the last 2 years;
thousands of times elsewhere. The issue that the link
http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm speaks about was

never
fixed and I can guarantee it's 100% immutable that the problem does

exist for
W98x. I would of not stuck my neck out to make my post if it wasn't.

I
guess you don't know me.

The problem is old news but for heavens sake Robert earlier just today

even
your own Extremely capable MVP Chris Quirke (cquirke) is onboard with

this
issue and actually uses 9x to know. Listen up:


Rick



  #14  
Old March 26th 05, 11:24 PM
Rick Chauvin
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....understood, but I just had to try.

thanks Gary,

Rick

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
FWIW, I seriously doubt that Jerry B. is going to read any replies to
his post. It was a notice, nothing more. They've been able to repro the
issue, which usually means that further user input is probably not
needed. We just have to wait to see what they work out.

However, I *did* drop your entire post into the same hopper I used for
the KB891711 issue (the track that finally got some action, or at least
some public acknowledgement of the problem.) We'll have to wait to see
what, if anything, comes of it.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Rick Chauvin" wrote in message
...
PA Bear wrote:
X-Posting to Win95 and WinME NGs eliminated.

Rick, I don't think MS05-002/KB891711 has anything to do with the issue
about which you post.


Hi Robert,
You have totally misunderstood my post. I'm sorry you did.
Of course we all knowMS05-002/KB891711 has nothing to do with the link I
gave. http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm

As I said I took this extra opportunity to tag onto Jerry Bryant MCSE,
MCDBA post to express to the MS coders about another important issue that
is of great importance for 9x to get fixed - besides what the OP is about.
I apologize for tagging onto it, but felt it was important enough.

(As you know, my position is that IE6 with SP1 installed has
fixed your issue for the vast majority of Win98 users.)


Again here too Robert I have no idea what you are referring to, but surely
you are mistaken here of what we are talking about which has been well
confirmed in this 9x newsgroup a hundred times over the last 2 years;
thousands of times elsewhere. The issue that the link
http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm speaks about was never
fixed and I can guarantee it's 100% immutable that the problem does exist
for W98x. I would of not stuck my neck out to make my post if it wasn't.
I guess you don't know me.

The problem is old news but for heavens sake Robert earlier just today
even your own Extremely capable MVP Chris Quirke (cquirke) is onboard
with this issue and actually uses 9x to know. Listen up:


Rick



  #15  
Old March 26th 05, 11:32 PM
Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
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And you keep right on doing exactly what you are doing.

We'll keep an eye on it. Rolling back to IE 5.5 is not an acceptable
resolution in my book.


Rick Chauvin wrote:
...understood, but I just had to try.

thanks Gary,

Rick

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

FWIW, I seriously doubt that Jerry B. is going to read any replies to
his post. It was a notice, nothing more. They've been able to repro the
issue, which usually means that further user input is probably not
needed. We just have to wait to see what they work out.

However, I *did* drop your entire post into the same hopper I used for
the KB891711 issue (the track that finally got some action, or at least
some public acknowledgement of the problem.) We'll have to wait to see
what, if anything, comes of it.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Rick Chauvin" wrote in message
.. .

PA Bear wrote:

X-Posting to Win95 and WinME NGs eliminated.

Rick, I don't think MS05-002/KB891711 has anything to do with the issue
about which you post.

Hi Robert,
You have totally misunderstood my post. I'm sorry you did.
Of course we all knowMS05-002/KB891711 has nothing to do with the link I
gave. http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm

As I said I took this extra opportunity to tag onto Jerry Bryant MCSE,
MCDBA post to express to the MS coders about another important issue that
is of great importance for 9x to get fixed - besides what the OP is about.
I apologize for tagging onto it, but felt it was important enough.


(As you know, my position is that IE6 with SP1 installed has
fixed your issue for the vast majority of Win98 users.)

Again here too Robert I have no idea what you are referring to, but surely
you are mistaken here of what we are talking about which has been well
confirmed in this 9x newsgroup a hundred times over the last 2 years;
thousands of times elsewhere. The issue that the link
http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm speaks about was never
fixed and I can guarantee it's 100% immutable that the problem does exist
for W98x. I would of not stuck my neck out to make my post if it wasn't.
I guess you don't know me.

The problem is old news but for heavens sake Robert earlier just today
even your own Extremely capable MVP Chris Quirke (cquirke) is onboard
with this issue and actually uses 9x to know. Listen up:
om

Rick




  #16  
Old March 27th 05, 02:20 AM
N. Miller
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In article , John Corliss says...

Sorry, I meant to say that it MIGHT have gotten me. I never tried
reinstalling just KB888113 to see if the problem returned.


Give it a shot. I only installed that on my second computer after having to
remove KB891711 from my first computer. Currently, both computers are
running KB888113 without issue. Oddly, the second computer runs KB891711
without issue; only the first is choking on it.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
  #17  
Old March 27th 05, 05:32 AM
Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
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Rick?

Why not upgrade to IE6 sp1?

http://snipurl.com/4bgz



Rick Chauvin wrote:
...understood, but I just had to try.

thanks Gary,

Rick

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

FWIW, I seriously doubt that Jerry B. is going to read any replies to
his post. It was a notice, nothing more. They've been able to repro the
issue, which usually means that further user input is probably not
needed. We just have to wait to see what they work out.

However, I *did* drop your entire post into the same hopper I used for
the KB891711 issue (the track that finally got some action, or at least
some public acknowledgement of the problem.) We'll have to wait to see
what, if anything, comes of it.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Rick Chauvin" wrote in message
.. .

PA Bear wrote:

X-Posting to Win95 and WinME NGs eliminated.

Rick, I don't think MS05-002/KB891711 has anything to do with the issue
about which you post.

Hi Robert,
You have totally misunderstood my post. I'm sorry you did.
Of course we all knowMS05-002/KB891711 has nothing to do with the link I
gave. http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm

As I said I took this extra opportunity to tag onto Jerry Bryant MCSE,
MCDBA post to express to the MS coders about another important issue that
is of great importance for 9x to get fixed - besides what the OP is about.
I apologize for tagging onto it, but felt it was important enough.


(As you know, my position is that IE6 with SP1 installed has
fixed your issue for the vast majority of Win98 users.)

Again here too Robert I have no idea what you are referring to, but surely
you are mistaken here of what we are talking about which has been well
confirmed in this 9x newsgroup a hundred times over the last 2 years;
thousands of times elsewhere. The issue that the link
http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm speaks about was never
fixed and I can guarantee it's 100% immutable that the problem does exist
for W98x. I would of not stuck my neck out to make my post if it wasn't.
I guess you don't know me.

The problem is old news but for heavens sake Robert earlier just today
even your own Extremely capable MVP Chris Quirke (cquirke) is onboard
with this issue and actually uses 9x to know. Listen up:
om

Rick




  #18  
Old March 27th 05, 06:10 AM
Rick T
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Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:
And you keep right on doing exactly what you are doing.

We'll keep an eye on it. Rolling back to IE 5.5 is not an acceptable
resolution in my book.


No arguments there, but it's the only one that works. Having Explorer
hang and crash is also not an option.

Rick T



Rick Chauvin wrote:

...understood, but I just had to try.

thanks Gary,

Rick

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

FWIW, I seriously doubt that Jerry B. is going to read any replies to
his post. It was a notice, nothing more. They've been able to repro the
issue, which usually means that further user input is probably not
needed. We just have to wait to see what they work out.

However, I *did* drop your entire post into the same hopper I used for
the KB891711 issue (the track that finally got some action, or at least
some public acknowledgement of the problem.) We'll have to wait to see
what, if anything, comes of it.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Rick Chauvin" wrote in message
...

PA Bear wrote:

X-Posting to Win95 and WinME NGs eliminated.

Rick, I don't think MS05-002/KB891711 has anything to do with the
issue
about which you post.


Hi Robert,
You have totally misunderstood my post. I'm sorry you did.
Of course we all knowMS05-002/KB891711 has nothing to do with the
link I
gave. http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm

As I said I took this extra opportunity to tag onto Jerry Bryant MCSE,
MCDBA post to express to the MS coders about another important issue
that
is of great importance for 9x to get fixed - besides what the OP is
about.
I apologize for tagging onto it, but felt it was important enough.


(As you know, my position is that IE6 with SP1 installed has
fixed your issue for the vast majority of Win98 users.)


Again here too Robert I have no idea what you are referring to, but
surely
you are mistaken here of what we are talking about which has been well
confirmed in this 9x newsgroup a hundred times over the last 2 years;
thousands of times elsewhere. The issue that the link
http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm speaks about was
never
fixed and I can guarantee it's 100% immutable that the problem does
exist
for W98x. I would of not stuck my neck out to make my post if it
wasn't.
I guess you don't know me.

The problem is old news but for heavens sake Robert earlier just today
even your own Extremely capable MVP Chris Quirke (cquirke) is onboard
with this issue and actually uses 9x to know. Listen up:


Rick





  #19  
Old March 27th 05, 06:39 AM
Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
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Why not upgrade to IE6 sp1?

http://snipurl.com/4bgz

Rick T wrote:
Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:

And you keep right on doing exactly what you are doing.

We'll keep an eye on it. Rolling back to IE 5.5 is not an acceptable
resolution in my book.



No arguments there, but it's the only one that works. Having Explorer
hang and crash is also not an option.

Rick T



Rick Chauvin wrote:

...understood, but I just had to try.

thanks Gary,

Rick

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

FWIW, I seriously doubt that Jerry B. is going to read any replies to
his post. It was a notice, nothing more. They've been able to repro the
issue, which usually means that further user input is probably not
needed. We just have to wait to see what they work out.

However, I *did* drop your entire post into the same hopper I used for
the KB891711 issue (the track that finally got some action, or at least
some public acknowledgement of the problem.) We'll have to wait to see
what, if anything, comes of it.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Rick Chauvin" wrote in message
...

PA Bear wrote:

X-Posting to Win95 and WinME NGs eliminated.

Rick, I don't think MS05-002/KB891711 has anything to do with the
issue
about which you post.



Hi Robert,
You have totally misunderstood my post. I'm sorry you did.
Of course we all knowMS05-002/KB891711 has nothing to do with the
link I
gave. http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm

As I said I took this extra opportunity to tag onto Jerry Bryant MCSE,
MCDBA post to express to the MS coders about another important
issue that
is of great importance for 9x to get fixed - besides what the OP is
about.
I apologize for tagging onto it, but felt it was important enough.


(As you know, my position is that IE6 with SP1 installed has
fixed your issue for the vast majority of Win98 users.)



Again here too Robert I have no idea what you are referring to, but
surely
you are mistaken here of what we are talking about which has been well
confirmed in this 9x newsgroup a hundred times over the last 2 years;
thousands of times elsewhere. The issue that the link
http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm speaks about was
never
fixed and I can guarantee it's 100% immutable that the problem does
exist
for W98x. I would of not stuck my neck out to make my post if it
wasn't.
I guess you don't know me.

The problem is old news but for heavens sake Robert earlier just today
even your own Extremely capable MVP Chris Quirke (cquirke) is onboard
with this issue and actually uses 9x to know. Listen up:


Rick





  #20  
Old March 27th 05, 07:47 AM
Noel Paton
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Norman
Could you please run Everest on both PC's and send me the reports?

TIA

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"N. Miller" wrote in message
om...
In article , John Corliss says...

Sorry, I meant to say that it MIGHT have gotten me. I never tried
reinstalling just KB888113 to see if the problem returned.


Give it a shot. I only installed that on my second computer after having
to
remove KB891711 from my first computer. Currently, both computers are
running KB888113 without issue. Oddly, the second computer runs KB891711
without issue; only the first is choking on it.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint



 




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