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Old December 17th 04, 09:20 AM
1966olds
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Bill,

Going to try to make this real short cause its 2:10am and ...well its
2:10am.

:-)

I thought I had identfied my 120GB Hard Drive (Maxtor 6Y120PO) as a
culprit, but then I started changing around so many devices that the
results were inconclusive in that I could not repeat the error-free
windows install with that drive disconnected. ---Until tonight.

Its definitely that drive being hooked up that prevents Win98 from
installing. The SU0013error comes up before I ever get past the
pre-file copy stage. You never get to the license question. Removing
the drive eliminates the error.

Still don;t know why though. Maybe its defective in some way. I haven't
tested it this week, but it passed all tests on the Maxtor "Powermax"
program.

Drive is almost 2 years old, but even if still under warrranty, doubt I
could prove there is anything wrong with it. It works fine other than
preventing Win98 install.

Are there benchmarks that might show a defect or problem with it?

Need to solve became a little less urgent now that I've isolated to the
hard drive. And at least I know I can install Windows as long as I
disconnect this drive. But still interested in finding out if the drive
has a defect or if Win98 jut doesn;t know how to handle it.

If it is just this particular unit of the drive I can replace it. But
if this has something to do with some barrier that Win98 respects, then
the next hard drive of that size would cause same issue.
Thanks again for past and current replies.
Larry

Larry

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Old December 17th 04, 11:47 PM
Bill Watt
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On 17 Dec 2004 00:20:17 -0800, "1966olds"
wrote:

Bill,

Going to try to make this real short cause its 2:10am and ...well its
2:10am.

:-)

I thought I had identfied my 120GB Hard Drive (Maxtor 6Y120PO) as a
culprit, but then I started changing around so many devices that the
results were inconclusive in that I could not repeat the error-free
windows install with that drive disconnected. ---Until tonight.

Its definitely that drive being hooked up that prevents Win98 from
installing. The SU0013error comes up before I ever get past the
pre-file copy stage. You never get to the license question. Removing
the drive eliminates the error.

Still don;t know why though. Maybe its defective in some way. I haven't
tested it this week, but it passed all tests on the Maxtor "Powermax"
program.

Drive is almost 2 years old, but even if still under warrranty, doubt I
could prove there is anything wrong with it. It works fine other than
preventing Win98 install.

Are there benchmarks that might show a defect or problem with it?

Need to solve became a little less urgent now that I've isolated to the
hard drive. And at least I know I can install Windows as long as I
disconnect this drive. But still interested in finding out if the drive
has a defect or if Win98 jut doesn;t know how to handle it.

If it is just this particular unit of the drive I can replace it. But
if this has something to do with some barrier that Win98 respects, then
the next hard drive of that size would cause same issue.
Thanks again for past and current replies.
Larry


Larry,

You have 3 hard drives and 2 CDroms. Apparently they all work ok
together other than the Windows install. Still I would check the pin
positions on all of them. The cabling could also be a factor for
Master and Slave. It may not be the drive itself. When you install
the drive does it change your drive letter assignments? I believe
you mentioned that you made the first partition a Primary Dos
partition.

You can re-assign the CDrom drive letters but then some programs may
not be able to find them.

How do you have the 3 HD's and 2 CDroms hooked up? May be something
there Windows Setup doesn't like.

Like you said though, if the only problem is with a Windows install
and you can fix that then maybe you need a rest for awhile. :-)

Happy Holidays Everyone,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/

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Old December 18th 04, 08:26 AM
1966olds
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Bill,

I already swapped cables and devices several times, but sometimes made
so many changes that I forgot what was changed and what wasn't (too
many variables). I did, however re-check all jumper settings...even
deliberately setting them wrong just to confirm the labeling was
correct (I had a Toshiba CD ROM years ago whose jumper diagrams were
backwards)

This time, I disconnected the suspect disk from its location as disk #2
of 3, and attempted Win98 setup...and rec'd no error message. Then
reconnected it as disk #1, and the message re-appeared.

So it caused the same error in two different locations and connected to
two different cables (at least!). Also was able to duplicate at least
twice successively.

Something I forgot to mention before, is that in both Dos and Windows,
Partition Magic 6 reports "check failed" for most or all partitions
when the Maxtor 120GB Disk is connected. Yet Partition Magic7 and Drive
Image 2002 report no such errors, nor does Partition Magic 6 when the
disk is not connected. To me, that would indicate some kind of problem
Windows 98 has with the parameters of the 120GB vs bad hardware item,
but still only speculation.

Like I said, though, and you mentioned also....I do need to rest from
this, and knowing I CAN re-install Win98 by disconnecting that Hard
Drive is good enough for now.

Just the same, if you or anyone else knows of or learn of a
relationship between the SU0013 error and Disk size (I know Win98 HAS a
barrier of 137GB, but not 120GB that I know of)....or if there is a
diagnostic software application besides Powermax that you know of that
is available for evaluating/fixing hard drive status, please advise me.
Thanks,
Larry

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Old December 26th 04, 10:14 PM
1966olds
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Just a little footnote...

Recently had trouble booting to a restored [from image file] WinXP
partition and finally blew it away and replaced with a clone of a
different partition. And today I noticed that in Partition Magic 6, am
no longer getting "disk check failed" errors as I was.

The partition that was the problem was NOT on the suspect 120GB Maxtor
disk at this time, but it WAS residing there when until a couple of
weeks ago and the image file was made when it was on the suspect hard
drive.

So... although I haven't yet tried to install Win98 (FE or SE), and
don't need to right now.... I believe something on that partition may
have been a problem.

Anyway...just wanted to mention this here, in case it helps someone
else with anything.

Larry

 




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