Replacing the boot drive, w/o reinstalling Windows and the apps?

MBR1 is an Extended partition, The partition you copied was a Logical drive
within that Extended partition. But it really makes no difference as long as
there aren't more than four Primary partitions (including the Extended Partition
if present.) Here's how it works.

Unless you invoke BING's particular feature that extends it, a hard disk is
limited to four primary partitions, one of which may be an Extended partition.
Logical drives can be created inside the Extended partition, any number up to
whatever limits are set by drive lettering. Primary partitions are bootable,
Extended partition and included logical drives are not normally so. If you want
to recreate the new drive precisely as the old drive is set up, you need to
delete the second partition from the new drive, create an Extended Partition in
the remaining space, then copy the last partition from the old drive to the free
space within the Extended partition on the new drive. Personally, I'd shrink the
partition before copying it, just to make sure it's smaller than the space
available on the new drive. Then resize both to fill out whatever space is
remaining on their respective drives.

OK, OK, you say! What went wrong? I would imagine that you simply didn't set the
proper partition Active. Switch the new drive to Primary Master (leave the other
drive out for the moment), and boot to BING. In Partition Work, click on "View
MBR". Use that to set the proper (first) partition as Active, see if that works.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
for reference: 40 GB drive partitioned into C: (boot) partition of about
15 GB, and D: (noname) partition for most of my video work at 25 GB

UPDATE - not so good, first time: Won't boot. So I put the old one
back, in, with the new one as slave, and Explorer now shows identical
copies of my old D partition data in BOTH of the two new partitions (C and
D) that I just created. Which is really weird. Let me explain (with the
help from you and PCR much appreciated):

1) Booted to BING boot disk
2) Selected partition work
3) Copied old C partition over to new drive - went ok!
4) Back in BING I then had a choice of copying one of the below:
a) MBR1 Partition
or
b) NONAME Volume FAT32

Both of these were nearly the same size (around 25 GB), but from what I
could tell, it looked like MBR1(?) entry started at a slightly earlier
sector number.

Even though the last item said VOLUME, and not partition, I selected it (at
least it said FAT32 and had the right name of NONAME), and copied that over
to the new drive. Maybe that was my mistake?

When BING was done I thought it had copied both partitions successfully (I
think the partition sizes looked right in BING, and both showed as FAT32,
but when I removed the old drive, and stuck in the new drive, I got "Disk
I/O error" (apparently since all I have on both partitions now, for some
weird reason, is the old D drive stuff)

Where did I miss the boat? I'm guessing that I should have copied the
item marked MBR1 partition instead of the old NONAME (D volume? Is that
right? Help!


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
You don't need an CD unless you have a burner and want to store an image
(BING.will do that.)

You boot to the floppy, Cancel, drop into Partition Work, delete
everything on
the new HD, (choose which drive you're in on the left), switch to the old
HD,
choose the partition to copy, click Copy, then go to the new disk,
highlight
the empty space, click Paste. Yes, it does take a while. Repeat as
necessary.

And perhaps I was wrong about RTM... Might just confuse you, s.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Ack, OK, I'll have to redo it all over again. What a pain. But it
would be worth preserving the directory dates.

My first glance at BING was it's gonna take "some time" to get thru its
manual, but what the hell, I think I'll just jump in and try, and cast my
fate to the wind. Hopefully all I need is a floppy, and not a CD or
DVD
to store the image, or something weird like that.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Yes. Use BING. The copy is precise, no changes in dates, etc. With both
HDs
installed, boot to the BING floppy, Cancel installation, use Partition
Work.
And, er, RTM, g.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
OK, here is an update - and a question:

I simply(?) replaced my old drive with a new same size drive, since the
one
I had was big enough anyway. I used the utilities that came with the
drive, and after a few bad starts and sputters and whatevers, it
finally
works (it set up the partitions and copied all the files).

HOWEVER - naturally I've lost all my original folder dates in the copy
process - all folders are dated as of today, which kinda ****es me off,
since I like to know when I installed things. Grrrrrr.

So my question to you guys is this:

Is it possible using BING (or whatever) to *preserve* the original
FOLDER
dates when transferred over to the new disk? A copy operation won't
cut
it, as a new folder is created with today's date, before the files are
copied.

I think the only way this might be possible is to somehow create an
image
of the original HD, and then transfer the binary image over, but even
then, I'm not sure if it will work. (Since my old and new drives are
identical
in
size (40 GB), imaging shouldn't be a problem). Can I do this? And
in
BING?

Colorado, did you see my other post? My memory isn't photographic, but
it pretty well states the exact steps you must perform-- EXCEPT, as
Terhune points out, you may have to delete partitions now on the
destination drive. This is because Copy can only be done to free (empty)
space.

IMPORTANT: The left hand portion of the BING Partition Work screen shows
which HDD you are operating upon. If you are deleting partitions
especially, BE SURE the proper HDD is bolted on the left!

I think what happened was that you copied Dartition TWICE from HDD1 to
HDD2. So, do it again. You have already proven BING will work for you.
But you must select the correct partition to Copy...

(1) =IMPORTANT=: Bolt HD1 in the left pane of Partition Work.
(2) Click the top "Dartition" in the right pane.
(3) Click the Delete button.
(4) Bolt HD0 in the left pane.
(5) Click the partition you wish to Copy on the right.
It will highlight when clicked.
This is likely the top guy, your C:\.
(6) Bolt HD1 in the left pane of Partition Work.
(7) Click the empty space you created.
It must highlight.
(8) Click the Paste button.

That should do it, BUT refer to my original post for the importance of
"CHS Alternative". I am fairly sure "Use HD0 in BPB" is already selected
by default.

Probably the remaining Dartition is fine. Now, try to boot this new
HDD. You may later wish to resize the partitions. I would go no more
than 8 GB for C:\. In fact, none of mine are more than that. However,
others say it may be fine to go higher, if most files on it are large.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
| for reference: 40 GB drive partitioned into C: (boot) partition of
about
| 15 GB, and D: (noname) partition for most of my video work at 25 GB
|
| UPDATE - not so good, first time: Won't boot. So I put the old
one
| back, in, with the new one as slave, and Explorer now shows identical
| copies of my old D partition data in BOTH of the two new partitions (C
and
| D) that I just created. Which is really weird. Let me explain
(with the
| help from you and PCR much appreciated):
|
| 1) Booted to BING boot disk
| 2) Selected partition work
| 3) Copied old C partition over to new drive - went ok!
| 4) Back in BING I then had a choice of copying one of the below:
| a) MBR1 Partition
| or
| b) NONAME Volume FAT32
|
| Both of these were nearly the same size (around 25 GB), but from what
I
| could tell, it looked like MBR1(?) entry started at a slightly earlier
| sector number.
|
| Even though the last item said VOLUME, and not partition, I selected
it (at
| least it said FAT32 and had the right name of NONAME), and copied that
over
| to the new drive. Maybe that was my mistake?
|
| When BING was done I thought it had copied both partitions
successfully (I
| think the partition sizes looked right in BING, and both showed as
FAT32,
| but when I removed the old drive, and stuck in the new drive, I got
"Disk
| I/O error" (apparently since all I have on both partitions now, for
some
| weird reason, is the old D drive stuff)
|
| Where did I miss the boat? I'm guessing that I should have copied
the
| item marked MBR1 partition instead of the old NONAME (D volume?
Is that
| right? Help!
|
|
| Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| You don't need an CD unless you have a burner and want to store an
image
| (BING.will do that.)
|
| You boot to the floppy, Cancel, drop into Partition Work, delete
| everything on
| the new HD, (choose which drive you're in on the left), switch to
the old
| HD,
| choose the partition to copy, click Copy, then go to the new disk,
| highlight
| the empty space, click Paste. Yes, it does take a while. Repeat as
| necessary.
|
| And perhaps I was wrong about RTM... Might just confuse you, s.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP for Win9x
|
| "Bill in Co." wrote in message
| ...
| Ack, OK, I'll have to redo it all over again. What a pain.
But it
| would be worth preserving the directory dates.
|
| My first glance at BING was it's gonna take "some time" to get thru
its
| manual, but what the hell, I think I'll just jump in and try, and
cast my
| fate to the wind. Hopefully all I need is a floppy, and not a CD
or
| DVD
| to store the image, or something weird like that.
|
| Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| Yes. Use BING. The copy is precise, no changes in dates, etc. With
both
| HDs
| installed, boot to the BING floppy, Cancel installation, use
Partition
| Work.
| And, er, RTM, g.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP for Win9x
|
| "Bill in Co." wrote in message
| ...
| OK, here is an update - and a question:
|
| I simply(?) replaced my old drive with a new same size drive,
since the
| one
| I had was big enough anyway. I used the utilities that came
with the
| drive, and after a few bad starts and sputters and whatevers, it
| finally
| works (it set up the partitions and copied all the files).
|
| HOWEVER - naturally I've lost all my original folder dates in the
copy
| process - all folders are dated as of today, which kinda ****es
me off,
| since I like to know when I installed things. Grrrrrr.
|
| So my question to you guys is this:
|
| Is it possible using BING (or whatever) to *preserve* the
original
| FOLDER
| dates when transferred over to the new disk? A copy operation
won't
| cut
| it, as a new folder is created with today's date, before the
files are
| copied.
|
| I think the only way this might be possible is to somehow create
an
| image
| of the original HD, and then transfer the binary image over, but
even
| then, I'm not sure if it will work. (Since my old and new
drives are
| identical
| in
| size (40 GB), imaging shouldn't be a problem). Can I do this?
And
| in
| BING?
|
|

| I think what happened was that you copied Dartition TWICE from HDD1
to
| HDD2

Geez. It's HD0 to HD1. I got it right elsewhere. Naturally, this assumes
you still have your original HDD set as Primary Master-- that is, it is
HD0. The new one is HD1.

Don't go deleting your original partitions quite yet!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"PCR" wrote in message
...
| Colorado, did you see my other post? My memory isn't photographic, but
| it pretty well states the exact steps you must perform-- EXCEPT, as
| Terhune points out, you may have to delete partitions now on the
| destination drive. This is because Copy can only be done to free
(empty)
| space.
|
| IMPORTANT: The left hand portion of the BING Partition Work screen
shows
| which HDD you are operating upon. If you are deleting partitions
| especially, BE SURE the proper HDD is bolted on the left!
|
| I think what happened was that you copied Dartition TWICE from HDD1
to
| HDD2. So, do it again. You have already proven BING will work for you.
| But you must select the correct partition to Copy...
|
| (1) =IMPORTANT=: Bolt HD1 in the left pane of Partition Work.
| (2) Click the top "Dartition" in the right pane.
| (3) Click the Delete button.
| (4) Bolt HD0 in the left pane.
| (5) Click the partition you wish to Copy on the right.
| It will highlight when clicked.
| This is likely the top guy, your C:\.
| (6) Bolt HD1 in the left pane of Partition Work.
| (7) Click the empty space you created.
| It must highlight.
| (8) Click the Paste button.
|
| That should do it, BUT refer to my original post for the importance of
| "CHS Alternative". I am fairly sure "Use HD0 in BPB" is already
selected
| by default.
|
| Probably the remaining Dartition is fine. Now, try to boot this new
| HDD. You may later wish to resize the partitions. I would go no more
| than 8 GB for C:\. In fact, none of mine are more than that. However,
| others say it may be fine to go higher, if most files on it are large.
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "Bill in Co." wrote in message
| ...
| | for reference: 40 GB drive partitioned into C: (boot) partition
of
| about
| | 15 GB, and D: (noname) partition for most of my video work at 25 GB
| |
| | UPDATE - not so good, first time: Won't boot. So I put the
old
| one
| | back, in, with the new one as slave, and Explorer now shows
identical
| | copies of my old D partition data in BOTH of the two new partitions
(C
| and
| | D) that I just created. Which is really weird. Let me explain
| (with the
| | help from you and PCR much appreciated):
| |
| | 1) Booted to BING boot disk
| | 2) Selected partition work
| | 3) Copied old C partition over to new drive - went ok!
| | 4) Back in BING I then had a choice of copying one of the below:
| | a) MBR1 Partition
| | or
| | b) NONAME Volume FAT32
| |
| | Both of these were nearly the same size (around 25 GB), but from
what
| I
| | could tell, it looked like MBR1(?) entry started at a slightly
earlier
| | sector number.
| |
| | Even though the last item said VOLUME, and not partition, I selected
| it (at
| | least it said FAT32 and had the right name of NONAME), and copied
that
| over
| | to the new drive. Maybe that was my mistake?
| |
| | When BING was done I thought it had copied both partitions
| successfully (I
| | think the partition sizes looked right in BING, and both showed as
| FAT32,
| | but when I removed the old drive, and stuck in the new drive, I got
| "Disk
| | I/O error" (apparently since all I have on both partitions now, for
| some
| | weird reason, is the old D drive stuff)
| |
| | Where did I miss the boat? I'm guessing that I should have
copied
| the
| | item marked MBR1 partition instead of the old NONAME (D volume?
| Is that
| | right? Help!
| |
| |
| | Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| | You don't need an CD unless you have a burner and want to store an
| image
| | (BING.will do that.)
| |
| | You boot to the floppy, Cancel, drop into Partition Work, delete
| | everything on
| | the new HD, (choose which drive you're in on the left), switch to
| the old
| | HD,
| | choose the partition to copy, click Copy, then go to the new disk,
| | highlight
| | the empty space, click Paste. Yes, it does take a while. Repeat as
| | necessary.
| |
| | And perhaps I was wrong about RTM... Might just confuse you, s.
| |
| | --
| | Gary S. Terhune
| | MS MVP for Win9x
| |
| | "Bill in Co." wrote in message
| | ...
| | Ack, OK, I'll have to redo it all over again. What a pain.
| But it
| | would be worth preserving the directory dates.
| |
| | My first glance at BING was it's gonna take "some time" to get
thru
| its
| | manual, but what the hell, I think I'll just jump in and try, and
| cast my
| | fate to the wind. Hopefully all I need is a floppy, and not a
CD
| or
| | DVD
| | to store the image, or something weird like that.
| |
| | Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| | Yes. Use BING. The copy is precise, no changes in dates, etc.
With
| both
| | HDs
| | installed, boot to the BING floppy, Cancel installation, use
| Partition
| | Work.
| | And, er, RTM, g.
| |
| | --
| | Gary S. Terhune
| | MS MVP for Win9x
| |
| | "Bill in Co." wrote in message
| | ...
| | OK, here is an update - and a question:
| |
| | I simply(?) replaced my old drive with a new same size drive,
| since the
| | one
| | I had was big enough anyway. I used the utilities that came
| with the
| | drive, and after a few bad starts and sputters and whatevers,
it
| | finally
| | works (it set up the partitions and copied all the files).
| |
| | HOWEVER - naturally I've lost all my original folder dates in
the
| copy
| | process - all folders are dated as of today, which kinda ****es
| me off,
| | since I like to know when I installed things. Grrrrrr.
| |
| | So my question to you guys is this:
| |
| | Is it possible using BING (or whatever) to *preserve* the
| original
| | FOLDER
| | dates when transferred over to the new disk? A copy
operation
| won't
| | cut
| | it, as a new folder is created with today's date, before the
| files are
| | copied.
| |
| | I think the only way this might be possible is to somehow
create
| an
| | image
| | of the original HD, and then transfer the binary image over,
but
| even
| | then, I'm not sure if it will work. (Since my old and new
| drives are
| | identical
| | in
| | size (40 GB), imaging shouldn't be a problem). Can I do
this?
| And
| | in
| | BING?
| |
| |
|
|

OK you guys, your advice has definitely helped here, and there is only ONE
remaining problem (I resolved the other one): (and thanks Gary for the
explanation about the extended partitions)

No matter what I do, I always end up with: (remember I am copying from a
drive with some bad sectors):

8192 bytes in "bad sectors" on the new C: drive partition (this info
evidently is dutifully copied from the old drive, and it is a lie!)

AND

81920 bytes in "bad sectors" on the new D: drive partition (this info is
evidently dutifully copied from the old drive, and it too is a lie!)

In BING, I've deleted the new drive partitions, and also wiped them (which
took some time), before I did the "partition copy" operations, and it STILL
doesn't work right (gives me those BS bad sector messages in scandisk).

FYI: In the partition copy option, I selected the copy data only option,
and even that still doesn't prevent the (FAT) bad sector source drive
information from being dutifully copied over to the new drive. GRRRRRR!

I'm beginning to believe that IF you have bad sectors on the source drive,
and you use the "copy partition" option, there is no way to prevent this.
So unless someone has another idea, it seems I'm stuck with two undesirable
choices:

Either copy the partitions, and live with the bad sector (bogus messages) in
scandisk, which preserves all the original directory and subdirectory date
stamps
OR
just copy the files and directories using a copy operation, which works
fine - EXCEPT all the new directories and subdirectories are time stamped
with today's date! Which is very annoying to me, as I use those date and
time stamps for reference sometimes.

I can't believe I'm stuck with those two options though. HELP!!


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
MBR1 is an Extended partition, The partition you copied was a Logical
drive
within that Extended partition. But it really makes no difference as long
as
there aren't more than four Primary partitions (including the Extended
Partition if present.) Here's how it works.

Unless you invoke BING's particular feature that extends it, a hard disk
is
limited to four primary partitions, one of which may be an Extended
partition.
Logical drives can be created inside the Extended partition, any number up
to
whatever limits are set by drive lettering. Primary partitions are
bootable,
Extended partition and included logical drives are not normally so. If you
want to recreate the new drive precisely as the old drive is set up, you
need
to delete the second partition from the new drive, create an Extended
Partition in the remaining space, then copy the last partition from the
old
drive to the free space within the Extended partition on the new drive.
Personally, I'd shrink the partition before copying it, just to make sure
it's smaller than the space available on the new drive. Then resize both
to
fill out whatever space is remaining on their respective drives.

OK, OK, you say! What went wrong? I would imagine that you simply didn't
set
the proper partition Active. Switch the new drive to Primary Master (leave
the other drive out for the moment), and boot to BING. In Partition Work,
click on "View MBR". Use that to set the proper (first) partition as
Active,
see if that works.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
for reference: 40 GB drive partitioned into C: (boot) partition of
about
15 GB, and D: (noname) partition for most of my video work at 25 GB

UPDATE - not so good, first time: Won't boot. So I put the old one
back, in, with the new one as slave, and Explorer now shows identical
copies of my old D partition data in BOTH of the two new partitions (C
and
D) that I just created. Which is really weird. Let me explain (with
the
help from you and PCR much appreciated):

1) Booted to BING boot disk
2) Selected partition work
3) Copied old C partition over to new drive - went ok!
4) Back in BING I then had a choice of copying one of the below:
a) MBR1 Partition
or
b) NONAME Volume FAT32

Both of these were nearly the same size (around 25 GB), but from what I
could tell, it looked like MBR1(?) entry started at a slightly earlier
sector number.

Even though the last item said VOLUME, and not partition, I selected it
(at
least it said FAT32 and had the right name of NONAME), and copied that
over
to the new drive. Maybe that was my mistake?

When BING was done I thought it had copied both partitions successfully
(I
think the partition sizes looked right in BING, and both showed as FAT32,
but when I removed the old drive, and stuck in the new drive, I got "Disk
I/O error" (apparently since all I have on both partitions now, for some
weird reason, is the old D drive stuff)

Where did I miss the boat? I'm guessing that I should have copied the
item marked MBR1 partition instead of the old NONAME (D volume? Is
that
right? Help!


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
You don't need an CD unless you have a burner and want to store an image
(BING.will do that.)

You boot to the floppy, Cancel, drop into Partition Work, delete
everything on
the new HD, (choose which drive you're in on the left), switch to the
old
HD, choose the partition to copy, click Copy, then go to the new disk,
highlight the empty space, click Paste. Yes, it does take a while.
Repeat
as necessary.

And perhaps I was wrong about RTM... Might just confuse you, s.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Ack, OK, I'll have to redo it all over again. What a pain. But it
would be worth preserving the directory dates.

My first glance at BING was it's gonna take "some time" to get thru its
manual, but what the hell, I think I'll just jump in and try, and cast
my
fate to the wind. Hopefully all I need is a floppy, and not a CD or
DVD
to store the image, or something weird like that.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Yes. Use BING. The copy is precise, no changes in dates, etc. With
both
HDs installed, boot to the BING floppy, Cancel installation, use
Partition Work. And, er, RTM, g.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
OK, here is an update - and a question:

I simply(?) replaced my old drive with a new same size drive, since
the
one I had was big enough anyway. I used the utilities that came
with
the drive, and after a few bad starts and sputters and whatevers, it
finally
works (it set up the partitions and copied all the files).

HOWEVER - naturally I've lost all my original folder dates in the
copy
process - all folders are dated as of today, which kinda ****es me
off,
since I like to know when I installed things. Grrrrrr.

So my question to you guys is this:

Is it possible using BING (or whatever) to *preserve* the original
FOLDER
dates when transferred over to the new disk? A copy operation
won't
cut it, as a new folder is created with today's date, before the
files
are copied.

I think the only way this might be possible is to somehow create an
image
of the original HD, and then transfer the binary image over, but even
then, I'm not sure if it will work. (Since my old and new drives
are
identical
in
size (40 GB), imaging shouldn't be a problem). Can I do this?
And
in BING?

| (5) Click the partition you wish to Copy on the right.
| It will highlight when clicked.
| This is likely the top guy, your C:\.

Put a label on this partition in Explorer (R-Clk, Properties). It will
then show up in BING.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"PCR" wrote in message
...
| Colorado, did you see my other post? My memory isn't photographic, but
| it pretty well states the exact steps you must perform-- EXCEPT, as
| Terhune points out, you may have to delete partitions now on the
| destination drive. This is because Copy can only be done to free
(empty)
| space.
|
| IMPORTANT: The left hand portion of the BING Partition Work screen
shows
| which HDD you are operating upon. If you are deleting partitions
| especially, BE SURE the proper HDD is bolted on the left!
|
| I think what happened was that you copied Dartition TWICE from HDD1
to
| HDD2. So, do it again. You have already proven BING will work for you.
| But you must select the correct partition to Copy...
|
| (1) =IMPORTANT=: Bolt HD1 in the left pane of Partition Work.
| (2) Click the top "Dartition" in the right pane.
| (3) Click the Delete button.
| (4) Bolt HD0 in the left pane.
| (5) Click the partition you wish to Copy on the right.
| It will highlight when clicked.
| This is likely the top guy, your C:\.
| (6) Bolt HD1 in the left pane of Partition Work.
| (7) Click the empty space you created.
| It must highlight.
| (8) Click the Paste button.
|
| That should do it, BUT refer to my original post for the importance of
| "CHS Alternative". I am fairly sure "Use HD0 in BPB" is already
selected
| by default.
|
| Probably the remaining Dartition is fine. Now, try to boot this new
| HDD. You may later wish to resize the partitions. I would go no more
| than 8 GB for C:\. In fact, none of mine are more than that. However,
| others say it may be fine to go higher, if most files on it are large.
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "Bill in Co." wrote in message
| ...
| | for reference: 40 GB drive partitioned into C: (boot) partition
of
| about
| | 15 GB, and D: (noname) partition for most of my video work at 25 GB
| |
| | UPDATE - not so good, first time: Won't boot. So I put the
old
| one
| | back, in, with the new one as slave, and Explorer now shows
identical
| | copies of my old D partition data in BOTH of the two new partitions
(C
| and
| | D) that I just created. Which is really weird. Let me explain
| (with the
| | help from you and PCR much appreciated):
| |
| | 1) Booted to BING boot disk
| | 2) Selected partition work
| | 3) Copied old C partition over to new drive - went ok!
| | 4) Back in BING I then had a choice of copying one of the below:
| | a) MBR1 Partition
| | or
| | b) NONAME Volume FAT32
| |
| | Both of these were nearly the same size (around 25 GB), but from
what
| I
| | could tell, it looked like MBR1(?) entry started at a slightly
earlier
| | sector number.
| |
| | Even though the last item said VOLUME, and not partition, I selected
| it (at
| | least it said FAT32 and had the right name of NONAME), and copied
that
| over
| | to the new drive. Maybe that was my mistake?
| |
| | When BING was done I thought it had copied both partitions
| successfully (I
| | think the partition sizes looked right in BING, and both showed as
| FAT32,
| | but when I removed the old drive, and stuck in the new drive, I got
| "Disk
| | I/O error" (apparently since all I have on both partitions now, for
| some
| | weird reason, is the old D drive stuff)
| |
| | Where did I miss the boat? I'm guessing that I should have
copied
| the
| | item marked MBR1 partition instead of the old NONAME (D volume?
| Is that
| | right? Help!
| |
| |
| | Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| | You don't need an CD unless you have a burner and want to store an
| image
| | (BING.will do that.)
| |
| | You boot to the floppy, Cancel, drop into Partition Work, delete
| | everything on
| | the new HD, (choose which drive you're in on the left), switch to
| the old
| | HD,
| | choose the partition to copy, click Copy, then go to the new disk,
| | highlight
| | the empty space, click Paste. Yes, it does take a while. Repeat as
| | necessary.
| |
| | And perhaps I was wrong about RTM... Might just confuse you, s.
| |
| | --
| | Gary S. Terhune
| | MS MVP for Win9x
| |
| | "Bill in Co." wrote in message
| | ...
| | Ack, OK, I'll have to redo it all over again. What a pain.
| But it
| | would be worth preserving the directory dates.
| |
| | My first glance at BING was it's gonna take "some time" to get
thru
| its
| | manual, but what the hell, I think I'll just jump in and try, and
| cast my
| | fate to the wind. Hopefully all I need is a floppy, and not a
CD
| or
| | DVD
| | to store the image, or something weird like that.
| |
| | Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| | Yes. Use BING. The copy is precise, no changes in dates, etc.
With
| both
| | HDs
| | installed, boot to the BING floppy, Cancel installation, use
| Partition
| | Work.
| | And, er, RTM, g.
| |
| | --
| | Gary S. Terhune
| | MS MVP for Win9x
| |
| | "Bill in Co." wrote in message
| | ...
| | OK, here is an update - and a question:
| |
| | I simply(?) replaced my old drive with a new same size drive,
| since the
| | one
| | I had was big enough anyway. I used the utilities that came
| with the
| | drive, and after a few bad starts and sputters and whatevers,
it
| | finally
| | works (it set up the partitions and copied all the files).
| |
| | HOWEVER - naturally I've lost all my original folder dates in
the
| copy
| | process - all folders are dated as of today, which kinda ****es
| me off,
| | since I like to know when I installed things. Grrrrrr.
| |
| | So my question to you guys is this:
| |
| | Is it possible using BING (or whatever) to *preserve* the
| original
| | FOLDER
| | dates when transferred over to the new disk? A copy
operation
| won't
| | cut
| | it, as a new folder is created with today's date, before the
| files are
| | copied.
| |
| | I think the only way this might be possible is to somehow
create
| an
| | image
| | of the original HD, and then transfer the binary image over,
but
| even
| | then, I'm not sure if it will work. (Since my old and new
| drives are
| | identical
| | in
| | size (40 GB), imaging shouldn't be a problem). Can I do
this?
| And
| | in
| | BING?
| |
| |
|
|

PCR - thanks for all your help - I think I've got the mechanics down now,
but I still have that weird problem I just mentioned in my previous post.

PCR wrote:
(5) Click the partition you wish to Copy on the right.

LOL! Bill, I think you discovered a new truth about partition copying, at least
when using BING.

See he
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=127055

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
OK you guys, your advice has definitely helped here, and there is only ONE
remaining problem (I resolved the other one): (and thanks Gary for the
explanation about the extended partitions)

No matter what I do, I always end up with: (remember I am copying from a
drive with some bad sectors):

8192 bytes in "bad sectors" on the new C: drive partition (this info
evidently is dutifully copied from the old drive, and it is a lie!)

AND

81920 bytes in "bad sectors" on the new D: drive partition (this info is
evidently dutifully copied from the old drive, and it too is a lie!)

In BING, I've deleted the new drive partitions, and also wiped them (which
took some time), before I did the "partition copy" operations, and it STILL
doesn't work right (gives me those BS bad sector messages in scandisk).

FYI: In the partition copy option, I selected the copy data only option,
and even that still doesn't prevent the (FAT) bad sector source drive
information from being dutifully copied over to the new drive. GRRRRRR!

I'm beginning to believe that IF you have bad sectors on the source drive,
and you use the "copy partition" option, there is no way to prevent this.
So unless someone has another idea, it seems I'm stuck with two undesirable
choices:

Either copy the partitions, and live with the bad sector (bogus messages) in
scandisk, which preserves all the original directory and subdirectory date
stamps
OR
just copy the files and directories using a copy operation, which works
fine - EXCEPT all the new directories and subdirectories are time stamped
with today's date! Which is very annoying to me, as I use those date and
time stamps for reference sometimes.

I can't believe I'm stuck with those two options though. HELP!!


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
MBR1 is an Extended partition, The partition you copied was a Logical
drive
within that Extended partition. But it really makes no difference as long
as
there aren't more than four Primary partitions (including the Extended
Partition if present.) Here's how it works.

Unless you invoke BING's particular feature that extends it, a hard disk
is
limited to four primary partitions, one of which may be an Extended
partition.
Logical drives can be created inside the Extended partition, any number up
to
whatever limits are set by drive lettering. Primary partitions are
bootable,
Extended partition and included logical drives are not normally so. If you
want to recreate the new drive precisely as the old drive is set up, you
need
to delete the second partition from the new drive, create an Extended
Partition in the remaining space, then copy the last partition from the
old
drive to the free space within the Extended partition on the new drive.
Personally, I'd shrink the partition before copying it, just to make sure
it's smaller than the space available on the new drive. Then resize both
to
fill out whatever space is remaining on their respective drives.

OK, OK, you say! What went wrong? I would imagine that you simply didn't
set
the proper partition Active. Switch the new drive to Primary Master (leave
the other drive out for the moment), and boot to BING. In Partition Work,
click on "View MBR". Use that to set the proper (first) partition as
Active,
see if that works.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
for reference: 40 GB drive partitioned into C: (boot) partition of
about
15 GB, and D: (noname) partition for most of my video work at 25 GB

UPDATE - not so good, first time: Won't boot. So I put the old one
back, in, with the new one as slave, and Explorer now shows identical
copies of my old D partition data in BOTH of the two new partitions (C
and
D) that I just created. Which is really weird. Let me explain (with
the
help from you and PCR much appreciated):

1) Booted to BING boot disk
2) Selected partition work
3) Copied old C partition over to new drive - went ok!
4) Back in BING I then had a choice of copying one of the below:
a) MBR1 Partition
or
b) NONAME Volume FAT32

Both of these were nearly the same size (around 25 GB), but from what I
could tell, it looked like MBR1(?) entry started at a slightly earlier
sector number.

Even though the last item said VOLUME, and not partition, I selected it
(at
least it said FAT32 and had the right name of NONAME), and copied that
over
to the new drive. Maybe that was my mistake?

When BING was done I thought it had copied both partitions successfully
(I
think the partition sizes looked right in BING, and both showed as FAT32,
but when I removed the old drive, and stuck in the new drive, I got "Disk
I/O error" (apparently since all I have on both partitions now, for some
weird reason, is the old D drive stuff)

Where did I miss the boat? I'm guessing that I should have copied the
item marked MBR1 partition instead of the old NONAME (D volume? Is
that
right? Help!


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
You don't need an CD unless you have a burner and want to store an image
(BING.will do that.)

You boot to the floppy, Cancel, drop into Partition Work, delete
everything on
the new HD, (choose which drive you're in on the left), switch to the
old
HD, choose the partition to copy, click Copy, then go to the new disk,
highlight the empty space, click Paste. Yes, it does take a while.
Repeat
as necessary.

And perhaps I was wrong about RTM... Might just confuse you, s.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Ack, OK, I'll have to redo it all over again. What a pain. But it
would be worth preserving the directory dates.

My first glance at BING was it's gonna take "some time" to get thru its
manual, but what the hell, I think I'll just jump in and try, and cast
my
fate to the wind. Hopefully all I need is a floppy, and not a CD or
DVD
to store the image, or something weird like that.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Yes. Use BING. The copy is precise, no changes in dates, etc. With
both
HDs installed, boot to the BING floppy, Cancel installation, use
Partition Work. And, er, RTM, g.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
OK, here is an update - and a question:

I simply(?) replaced my old drive with a new same size drive, since
the
one I had was big enough anyway. I used the utilities that came
with
the drive, and after a few bad starts and sputters and whatevers, it
finally
works (it set up the partitions and copied all the files).

HOWEVER - naturally I've lost all my original folder dates in the
copy
process - all folders are dated as of today, which kinda ****es me
off,
since I like to know when I installed things. Grrrrrr.

So my question to you guys is this:

Is it possible using BING (or whatever) to *preserve* the original
FOLDER
dates when transferred over to the new disk? A copy operation
won't
cut it, as a new folder is created with today's date, before the
files
are copied.

I think the only way this might be possible is to somehow create an
image
of the original HD, and then transfer the binary image over, but even
then, I'm not sure if it will work. (Since my old and new drives
are
identical
in
size (40 GB), imaging shouldn't be a problem). Can I do this?
And
in BING?

Thanks Gary. Your timing was right on, as I've been searching on the net
and finally ended up finding that (life saving) (I hope) article.

I'm gonna try it out now. I really was getting tired of doing all these
damn tests, and waiting an hour or two each time to see if THAT change
worked or not. (I think I've run BING a half dozen times now. I'm
getting used to the spartan interface by now). LOL.

Thanks - I'm gonna try out the MS article now. (Talking about being a
little obscure, and a little hard to find... geez)

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
LOL! Bill, I think you discovered a new truth about partition copying, at
least when using BING.

See he
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=127055

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
OK you guys, your advice has definitely helped here, and there is only
ONE
remaining problem (I resolved the other one): (and thanks Gary for the
explanation about the extended partitions)

No matter what I do, I always end up with: (remember I am copying from a
drive with some bad sectors):

8192 bytes in "bad sectors" on the new C: drive partition (this info
evidently is dutifully copied from the old drive, and it is a lie!)

AND

81920 bytes in "bad sectors" on the new D: drive partition (this info is
evidently dutifully copied from the old drive, and it too is a lie!)

In BING, I've deleted the new drive partitions, and also wiped them
(which
took some time), before I did the "partition copy" operations, and it
STILL
doesn't work right (gives me those BS bad sector messages in scandisk).

FYI: In the partition copy option, I selected the copy data only
option,
and even that still doesn't prevent the (FAT) bad sector source drive
information from being dutifully copied over to the new drive.
GRRRRRR!

I'm beginning to believe that IF you have bad sectors on the source
drive,
and you use the "copy partition" option, there is no way to prevent this.
So unless someone has another idea, it seems I'm stuck with two
undesirable
choices:

Either copy the partitions, and live with the bad sector (bogus messages)
in
scandisk, which preserves all the original directory and subdirectory
date
stamps
OR
just copy the files and directories using a copy operation, which works
fine - EXCEPT all the new directories and subdirectories are time stamped
with today's date! Which is very annoying to me, as I use those date
and
time stamps for reference sometimes.

I can't believe I'm stuck with those two options though. HELP!!


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
MBR1 is an Extended partition, The partition you copied was a Logical
drive
within that Extended partition. But it really makes no difference as
long as
there aren't more than four Primary partitions (including the Extended
Partition if present.) Here's how it works.

Unless you invoke BING's particular feature that extends it, a hard disk
is
limited to four primary partitions, one of which may be an Extended
partition. Logical drives can be created inside the Extended partition,
any
number up to whatever limits are set by drive lettering. Primary
partitions
are bootable, Extended partition and included logical drives are not
normally so. If you want to recreate the new drive precisely as the old
drive is set up, you need to delete the second partition from the new
drive, create an Extended Partition in the remaining space, then copy
the
last partition from the old drive to the free space within the Extended
partition on the new drive. Personally, I'd shrink the partition before
copying it, just to make sure it's smaller than the space available on
the
new drive. Then resize both to fill out whatever space is remaining on
their respective drives.

OK, OK, you say! What went wrong? I would imagine that you simply didn't
set
the proper partition Active. Switch the new drive to Primary Master
(leave
the other drive out for the moment), and boot to BING. In Partition
Work,
click on "View MBR". Use that to set the proper (first) partition as
Active,
see if that works.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
for reference: 40 GB drive partitioned into C: (boot) partition of
about
15 GB, and D: (noname) partition for most of my video work at 25 GB

UPDATE - not so good, first time: Won't boot. So I put the old
one
back, in, with the new one as slave, and Explorer now shows identical
copies of my old D partition data in BOTH of the two new partitions (C
and
D) that I just created. Which is really weird. Let me explain
(with
the help from you and PCR much appreciated):

1) Booted to BING boot disk
2) Selected partition work
3) Copied old C partition over to new drive - went ok!
4) Back in BING I then had a choice of copying one of the below:
a) MBR1 Partition
or
b) NONAME Volume FAT32

Both of these were nearly the same size (around 25 GB), but from what I
could tell, it looked like MBR1(?) entry started at a slightly earlier
sector number.

Even though the last item said VOLUME, and not partition, I selected it
(at
least it said FAT32 and had the right name of NONAME), and copied that
over
to the new drive. Maybe that was my mistake?

When BING was done I thought it had copied both partitions successfully
(I
think the partition sizes looked right in BING, and both showed as
FAT32,
but when I removed the old drive, and stuck in the new drive, I got
"Disk
I/O error" (apparently since all I have on both partitions now, for
some
weird reason, is the old D drive stuff)

Where did I miss the boat? I'm guessing that I should have copied
the
item marked MBR1 partition instead of the old NONAME (D volume? Is
that right? Help!


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
You don't need an CD unless you have a burner and want to store an
image
(BING.will do that.)

You boot to the floppy, Cancel, drop into Partition Work, delete
everything on the new HD, (choose which drive you're in on the left),
switch to the old HD, choose the partition to copy, click Copy, then
go
to the new disk, highlight the empty space, click Paste. Yes, it does
take a while. Repeat as necessary.

And perhaps I was wrong about RTM... Might just confuse you, s.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Ack, OK, I'll have to redo it all over again. What a pain. But
it
would be worth preserving the directory dates.

My first glance at BING was it's gonna take "some time" to get thru
its
manual, but what the hell, I think I'll just jump in and try, and
cast my
fate to the wind. Hopefully all I need is a floppy, and not a CD
or
DVD to store the image, or something weird like that.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Yes. Use BING. The copy is precise, no changes in dates, etc. With
both
HDs installed, boot to the BING floppy, Cancel installation, use
Partition Work. And, er, RTM, g.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
OK, here is an update - and a question:

I simply(?) replaced my old drive with a new same size drive, since
the
one I had was big enough anyway. I used the utilities that came
with
the drive, and after a few bad starts and sputters and whatevers,
it
finally works (it set up the partitions and copied all the files).

HOWEVER - naturally I've lost all my original folder dates in the
copy
process - all folders are dated as of today, which kinda ****es me
off,
since I like to know when I installed things. Grrrrrr.

So my question to you guys is this:

Is it possible using BING (or whatever) to *preserve* the original
FOLDER dates when transferred over to the new disk? A copy
operation won't cut it, as a new folder is created with today's
date,
before the files are copied.

I think the only way this might be possible is to somehow create an
image of the original HD, and then transfer the binary image over,
but
even then, I'm not sure if it will work. (Since my old and new
drives are identical
in
size (40 GB), imaging shouldn't be a problem). Can I do this?
And
in BING?

ALL MSKB articles are at *least* a "little" obscure and hard to find!

Funny thing, I Googled something and got it on the first try, third article
listed--after Norton's Disk Editor. (Don't ask, I forget the exact search string
I used and can't figure out what it was or repeat it, either!)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Thanks Gary. Your timing was right on, as I've been searching on the net
and finally ended up finding that (life saving) (I hope) article.

I'm gonna try it out now. I really was getting tired of doing all these
damn tests, and waiting an hour or two each time to see if THAT change
worked or not. (I think I've run BING a half dozen times now. I'm
getting used to the spartan interface by now). LOL.

Thanks - I'm gonna try out the MS article now. (Talking about being a
little obscure, and a little hard to find... geez)

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
LOL! Bill, I think you discovered a new truth about partition copying, at
least when using BING.

See he
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=127055

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
OK you guys, your advice has definitely helped here, and there is only
ONE
remaining problem (I resolved the other one): (and thanks Gary for the
explanation about the extended partitions)

No matter what I do, I always end up with: (remember I am copying from a
drive with some bad sectors):

8192 bytes in "bad sectors" on the new C: drive partition (this info
evidently is dutifully copied from the old drive, and it is a lie!)

AND

81920 bytes in "bad sectors" on the new D: drive partition (this info is
evidently dutifully copied from the old drive, and it too is a lie!)

In BING, I've deleted the new drive partitions, and also wiped them
(which
took some time), before I did the "partition copy" operations, and it
STILL
doesn't work right (gives me those BS bad sector messages in scandisk).

FYI: In the partition copy option, I selected the copy data only
option,
and even that still doesn't prevent the (FAT) bad sector source drive
information from being dutifully copied over to the new drive.
GRRRRRR!

I'm beginning to believe that IF you have bad sectors on the source
drive,
and you use the "copy partition" option, there is no way to prevent this.
So unless someone has another idea, it seems I'm stuck with two
undesirable
choices:

Either copy the partitions, and live with the bad sector (bogus messages)
in
scandisk, which preserves all the original directory and subdirectory
date
stamps
OR
just copy the files and directories using a copy operation, which works
fine - EXCEPT all the new directories and subdirectories are time stamped
with today's date! Which is very annoying to me, as I use those date
and
time stamps for reference sometimes.

I can't believe I'm stuck with those two options though. HELP!!


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
MBR1 is an Extended partition, The partition you copied was a Logical
drive
within that Extended partition. But it really makes no difference as
long as
there aren't more than four Primary partitions (including the Extended
Partition if present.) Here's how it works.

Unless you invoke BING's particular feature that extends it, a hard disk
is
limited to four primary partitions, one of which may be an Extended
partition. Logical drives can be created inside the Extended partition,
any
number up to whatever limits are set by drive lettering. Primary
partitions
are bootable, Extended partition and included logical drives are not
normally so. If you want to recreate the new drive precisely as the old
drive is set up, you need to delete the second partition from the new
drive, create an Extended Partition in the remaining space, then copy
the
last partition from the old drive to the free space within the Extended
partition on the new drive. Personally, I'd shrink the partition before
copying it, just to make sure it's smaller than the space available on
the
new drive. Then resize both to fill out whatever space is remaining on
their respective drives.

OK, OK, you say! What went wrong? I would imagine that you simply didn't
set
the proper partition Active. Switch the new drive to Primary Master
(leave
the other drive out for the moment), and boot to BING. In Partition
Work,
click on "View MBR". Use that to set the proper (first) partition as
Active,
see if that works.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
for reference: 40 GB drive partitioned into C: (boot) partition of
about
15 GB, and D: (noname) partition for most of my video work at 25 GB

UPDATE - not so good, first time: Won't boot. So I put the old
one
back, in, with the new one as slave, and Explorer now shows identical
copies of my old D partition data in BOTH of the two new partitions (C
and
D) that I just created. Which is really weird. Let me explain
(with
the help from you and PCR much appreciated):

1) Booted to BING boot disk
2) Selected partition work
3) Copied old C partition over to new drive - went ok!
4) Back in BING I then had a choice of copying one of the below:
a) MBR1 Partition
or
b) NONAME Volume FAT32

Both of these were nearly the same size (around 25 GB), but from what I
could tell, it looked like MBR1(?) entry started at a slightly earlier
sector number.

Even though the last item said VOLUME, and not partition, I selected it
(at
least it said FAT32 and had the right name of NONAME), and copied that
over
to the new drive. Maybe that was my mistake?

When BING was done I thought it had copied both partitions successfully
(I
think the partition sizes looked right in BING, and both showed as
FAT32,
but when I removed the old drive, and stuck in the new drive, I got
"Disk
I/O error" (apparently since all I have on both partitions now, for
some
weird reason, is the old D drive stuff)

Where did I miss the boat? I'm guessing that I should have copied
the
item marked MBR1 partition instead of the old NONAME (D volume? Is
that right? Help!


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
You don't need an CD unless you have a burner and want to store an
image
(BING.will do that.)

You boot to the floppy, Cancel, drop into Partition Work, delete
everything on the new HD, (choose which drive you're in on the left),
switch to the old HD, choose the partition to copy, click Copy, then
go
to the new disk, highlight the empty space, click Paste. Yes, it does
take a while. Repeat as necessary.

And perhaps I was wrong about RTM... Might just confuse you, s.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Ack, OK, I'll have to redo it all over again. What a pain. But
it
would be worth preserving the directory dates.

My first glance at BING was it's gonna take "some time" to get thru
its
manual, but what the hell, I think I'll just jump in and try, and
cast my
fate to the wind. Hopefully all I need is a floppy, and not a CD
or
DVD to store the image, or something weird like that.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Yes. Use BING. The copy is precise, no changes in dates, etc. With
both
HDs installed, boot to the BING floppy, Cancel installation, use
Partition Work. And, er, RTM, g.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
OK, here is an update - and a question:

I simply(?) replaced my old drive with a new same size drive, since
the
one I had was big enough anyway. I used the utilities that came
with
the drive, and after a few bad starts and sputters and whatevers,
it
finally works (it set up the partitions and copied all the files).

HOWEVER - naturally I've lost all my original folder dates in the
copy
process - all folders are dated as of today, which kinda ****es me
off,
since I like to know when I installed things. Grrrrrr.

So my question to you guys is this:

Is it possible using BING (or whatever) to *preserve* the original
FOLDER dates when transferred over to the new disk? A copy
operation won't cut it, as a new folder is created with today's
date,
before the files are copied.

I think the only way this might be possible is to somehow create an
image of the original HD, and then transfer the binary image over,
but
even then, I'm not sure if it will work. (Since my old and new
drives are identical
in
size (40 GB), imaging shouldn't be a problem). Can I do this?
And
in BING?

Bill in Co. wrote in message ...

So unless someone has another idea, it seems I'm stuck with two undesirable
choices:

Either copy the partitions, and live with the bad sector (bogus messages) in
scandisk, which preserves all the original directory and subdirectory date
stamps
OR
just copy the files and directories using a copy operation, which works
fine - EXCEPT all the new directories and subdirectories are time stamped
with today's date! Which is very annoying to me, as I use those date and
time stamps for reference sometimes.

I can't believe I'm stuck with those two options though. HELP!!

You could consider routing a directory listing of your old drive
to a text file. That will give you a date/time stamped reference file
to peruse when you want to do your Sherlock Holmes impersonation.

Then run the COPY operation, and let it update the date and time stamps,
losing the bad sector flags in the process.

That will actually make it somewhat easier for you to detect
if a file was changed AFTER you switched to the new drive,
or BEFORE, although I'm not sure at this time
that this differential would afford you any benefit.