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"Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... Heather Are you confusing me with Mart, Mike or Noel??? (VBG). Sorry but I know just enough about computers to get myself into trouble. Nope....how could I confuse a "dapper dan" with a "furball" (Noel)??? ((G) And it WAS you that recommended the proggie.....I am going to try it this week. I downloaded it a long time ago, but never opened it. At that time I had WinME hooked up to it as well. Cheers from Brampton.....Heather If I recall, I downloaded and use Network Magic and it organized the settings with the router for our 2 computers. Hope things work out for you. regards "Heather" wrote in message ... OK, seeing as you are that close to me, do you want to come over and set up my blasted router?? It has sat here for a year not hooked up. Someone did give a name of a program that will help me do it and I did download it. So, I guess I will give it a shot once again. Gave my computer a good going over today for the Conficker/April 1st alleged onslaught. Wanna bet it's another Y2K?? OTOH, I used to watch just how fast real viruses moved across the world from the antivirus news groups......it was quite fascinating. That is when I met up with that "feisty redhead MVP", lol. Her office got hit in Oz. Cheers from Brampton......Figgs "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... I'm not understanding. To recap.....My internet service (and email) is with a cable company (Cogeco) in Ontario, Canada. I travel to Hilton Head and connect to the internet with a rental condo's wireless connection. I can receive my email via my Ontario cable company directly with Outlook even though I am connecting with Hargray but I cannot send email directly because Hargray's SMTP port is different from Cogeco's. Am I right so far? So is it being suggested that the next time I visit someplace that won't allow me to send email that I should try Verizon's SMTP port? Or if that won't work, am I supposed to call the local cable company and ask what port is used for sending even though my relationship is with a cable company back home? Sorry to be a bit thick on this but I would be grateful for a bit more clarification. Thanks Dan "Corday" wrote in message ... Hilton Head is serviced by a local company called Hargray Communications. They screw everything up including cable TV. Your brief hookup with Verizon showed Hargray was blocking you. -- I mastered Wordstar graphics! "Dapper Dan" wrote: This is not an OS issue but given my experience with ME's regulars, I thought this would be an appropriate place to obtain a resolution. I have just returned from a 2 week vacation in Hilton Head. I travelled with our laptop and had no trouble accessing the web or using Outlook while en route. However once there, I could no longer send mail in Outlook, although I could receive. The only other issue I had was that for some reason I could not access a particular website (www.skygolf.com) in order to download specific golf courses to my skycaddie GPS system. I initially thought that the website was offline but after calling the support staff, it was suggested that the problem was firewall related. It was not my firewall software because I configured it to allow skygolf, so I am assuming it was the router firewall. The villa/condo we rented had broadband wireless internet. On one occasion I was able to switch to another weaker wireless signal (offsite) that allowed access to skygolf and also to send mail via Outlook but I could not find that access again, which further reinforced the notion that the problem was related to the hardware firewall. Thus the question is what are my options if I should experience a similar problem in future travels? Is there a workaround? Thanks in advance. Dan |
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:50:13 -0400, Dapper Dan wrote:
I had called Cogeco and they wouldn't provide any help other than to recommend that I use their webmail facility. In effect it allows me to access my mail account from their website. However the problem is that it is so slooooooow; it drives me nuts. Some ISPs have drunk the AOL Kool-Aid. Sounds like Cogeco is one of those. I'll look into that gmail work-around that you suggested. It sounds promising. I have a Yahoo secondary account that is delivered to my Outlook. I didn't think you could do the opposite, i.e. have my cogeco account deliver to gmail. I'll look into it. Both Yahoo! and Gmail will download email from a POP3 server. So either would be able to get your Cogeco email. Both also allow for the use of a verified email address outside of the domain (i.e., other than 'yahoo.com', or 'gmail.com'). Where Gmail shines is having IMAP access (Yahoo! is POP3 only), and in allowing free access to the SMTP server (U.S. and Canada Yahoo! requires a paid account, at $20 a year, for SMTP access). I thought this was a simple query given that most everyone these days communicates electronically and I don't think that everyone who travels abandons their regular mail service to a web based service. However I now have a couple of recommendations to check out. It really depends upon the email service. ISP email is the most difficult, as many ISPs have ridiculous 20th Century limitations on their services. In the USA, both AT&T and Comcast really shine in the access department. With either ISP, you can be off network (non-AT&T, non-Comcast IP address), and still use their SMTP message submission servers. Others don't allow it; Charter is particularly iffy; almost the same as Cogeco. Another commonly advised approach is to just use third party email for all correspondence. Third party providers have long had to deal with access problems; and they allow the user to be ISP independent. You don't have to advise all of your correspondents every time your ISP email address changes. -- Norman ~Shine, bright morning light, ~now in the air the spring is coming. ~Sweet, blowing wind, ~singing down the hills and valleys. |
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Thanks Norm
I configured GMAIL to download my Cogeco mail this morning and it works!!!! Seems pretty simple really. I'm assuming this will continue to work when travelling in the US. Again, thanks for the tip, it is greatly appreciated. Dan "N. Miller" wrote in message ... On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:50:13 -0400, Dapper Dan wrote: I had called Cogeco and they wouldn't provide any help other than to recommend that I use their webmail facility. In effect it allows me to access my mail account from their website. However the problem is that it is so slooooooow; it drives me nuts. Some ISPs have drunk the AOL Kool-Aid. Sounds like Cogeco is one of those. I'll look into that gmail work-around that you suggested. It sounds promising. I have a Yahoo secondary account that is delivered to my Outlook. I didn't think you could do the opposite, i.e. have my cogeco account deliver to gmail. I'll look into it. Both Yahoo! and Gmail will download email from a POP3 server. So either would be able to get your Cogeco email. Both also allow for the use of a verified email address outside of the domain (i.e., other than 'yahoo.com', or 'gmail.com'). Where Gmail shines is having IMAP access (Yahoo! is POP3 only), and in allowing free access to the SMTP server (U.S. and Canada Yahoo! requires a paid account, at $20 a year, for SMTP access). I thought this was a simple query given that most everyone these days communicates electronically and I don't think that everyone who travels abandons their regular mail service to a web based service. However I now have a couple of recommendations to check out. It really depends upon the email service. ISP email is the most difficult, as many ISPs have ridiculous 20th Century limitations on their services. In the USA, both AT&T and Comcast really shine in the access department. With either ISP, you can be off network (non-AT&T, non-Comcast IP address), and still use their SMTP message submission servers. Others don't allow it; Charter is particularly iffy; almost the same as Cogeco. Another commonly advised approach is to just use third party email for all correspondence. Third party providers have long had to deal with access problems; and they allow the user to be ISP independent. You don't have to advise all of your correspondents every time your ISP email address changes. -- Norman ~Shine, bright morning light, ~now in the air the spring is coming. ~Sweet, blowing wind, ~singing down the hills and valleys. |
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:31:14 -0400, Dapper Dan wrote:
I configured GMAIL to download my Cogeco mail this morning and it works!!!! Seems pretty simple really. I'm assuming this will continue to work when travelling in the US. It should work as well here. Again, thanks for the tip, it is greatly appreciated. You're welcome. -- Norman ~Shine, bright morning light, ~now in the air the spring is coming. ~Sweet, blowing wind, ~singing down the hills and valleys. |
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Figgs......
IMNHO, the worst possible thing you can do is use the ISP's software (or any other) to try and connect a router to your home network and the ISP itself. ALL routers (that I've ever seen) come with an inbuilt web interface - the trick is simply how to find and control it. If you let me know the make/model of your router/modem, then I'll try and guide you through the process. (best send details off-list - including your login details for the USB?? modem you currently use.... most of my old mail addies still work g) catch me if you can! VBEG -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk "Heather" wrote in message ... "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... Heather Are you confusing me with Mart, Mike or Noel??? (VBG). Sorry but I know just enough about computers to get myself into trouble. Nope....how could I confuse a "dapper dan" with a "furball" (Noel)??? ((G) And it WAS you that recommended the proggie.....I am going to try it this week. I downloaded it a long time ago, but never opened it. At that time I had WinME hooked up to it as well. Cheers from Brampton.....Heather If I recall, I downloaded and use Network Magic and it organized the settings with the router for our 2 computers. Hope things work out for you. regards "Heather" wrote in message ... OK, seeing as you are that close to me, do you want to come over and set up my blasted router?? It has sat here for a year not hooked up. Someone did give a name of a program that will help me do it and I did download it. So, I guess I will give it a shot once again. Gave my computer a good going over today for the Conficker/April 1st alleged onslaught. Wanna bet it's another Y2K?? OTOH, I used to watch just how fast real viruses moved across the world from the antivirus news groups......it was quite fascinating. That is when I met up with that "feisty redhead MVP", lol. Her office got hit in Oz. Cheers from Brampton......Figgs "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... I'm not understanding. To recap.....My internet service (and email) is with a cable company (Cogeco) in Ontario, Canada. I travel to Hilton Head and connect to the internet with a rental condo's wireless connection. I can receive my email via my Ontario cable company directly with Outlook even though I am connecting with Hargray but I cannot send email directly because Hargray's SMTP port is different from Cogeco's. Am I right so far? So is it being suggested that the next time I visit someplace that won't allow me to send email that I should try Verizon's SMTP port? Or if that won't work, am I supposed to call the local cable company and ask what port is used for sending even though my relationship is with a cable company back home? Sorry to be a bit thick on this but I would be grateful for a bit more clarification. Thanks Dan "Corday" wrote in message ... Hilton Head is serviced by a local company called Hargray Communications. They screw everything up including cable TV. Your brief hookup with Verizon showed Hargray was blocking you. -- I mastered Wordstar graphics! "Dapper Dan" wrote: This is not an OS issue but given my experience with ME's regulars, I thought this would be an appropriate place to obtain a resolution. I have just returned from a 2 week vacation in Hilton Head. I travelled with our laptop and had no trouble accessing the web or using Outlook while en route. However once there, I could no longer send mail in Outlook, although I could receive. The only other issue I had was that for some reason I could not access a particular website (www.skygolf.com) in order to download specific golf courses to my skycaddie GPS system. I initially thought that the website was offline but after calling the support staff, it was suggested that the problem was firewall related. It was not my firewall software because I configured it to allow skygolf, so I am assuming it was the router firewall. The villa/condo we rented had broadband wireless internet. On one occasion I was able to switch to another weaker wireless signal (offsite) that allowed access to skygolf and also to send mail via Outlook but I could not find that access again, which further reinforced the notion that the problem was related to the hardware firewall. Thus the question is what are my options if I should experience a similar problem in future travels? Is there a workaround? Thanks in advance. Dan |
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.....it works everywhere else in the world, as well - like here in the UK!
one point to note - do NOT forward your email from your 'personal' account to Google - use Google to pull it down - because otherwise your personal account could get spamblocked. Gmail ignores the 'personal account' settings when pulling in mail, but not when the mail is forwarded from an account outside Gmail. (I'm not certain that's clear - if not then post back!) -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... Thanks Norm I configured GMAIL to download my Cogeco mail this morning and it works!!!! Seems pretty simple really. I'm assuming this will continue to work when travelling in the US. Again, thanks for the tip, it is greatly appreciated. Dan "N. Miller" wrote in message ... On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:50:13 -0400, Dapper Dan wrote: I had called Cogeco and they wouldn't provide any help other than to recommend that I use their webmail facility. In effect it allows me to access my mail account from their website. However the problem is that it is so slooooooow; it drives me nuts. Some ISPs have drunk the AOL Kool-Aid. Sounds like Cogeco is one of those. I'll look into that gmail work-around that you suggested. It sounds promising. I have a Yahoo secondary account that is delivered to my Outlook. I didn't think you could do the opposite, i.e. have my cogeco account deliver to gmail. I'll look into it. Both Yahoo! and Gmail will download email from a POP3 server. So either would be able to get your Cogeco email. Both also allow for the use of a verified email address outside of the domain (i.e., other than 'yahoo.com', or 'gmail.com'). Where Gmail shines is having IMAP access (Yahoo! is POP3 only), and in allowing free access to the SMTP server (U.S. and Canada Yahoo! requires a paid account, at $20 a year, for SMTP access). I thought this was a simple query given that most everyone these days communicates electronically and I don't think that everyone who travels abandons their regular mail service to a web based service. However I now have a couple of recommendations to check out. It really depends upon the email service. ISP email is the most difficult, as many ISPs have ridiculous 20th Century limitations on their services. In the USA, both AT&T and Comcast really shine in the access department. With either ISP, you can be off network (non-AT&T, non-Comcast IP address), and still use their SMTP message submission servers. Others don't allow it; Charter is particularly iffy; almost the same as Cogeco. Another commonly advised approach is to just use third party email for all correspondence. Third party providers have long had to deal with access problems; and they allow the user to be ISP independent. You don't have to advise all of your correspondents every time your ISP email address changes. -- Norman ~Shine, bright morning light, ~now in the air the spring is coming. ~Sweet, blowing wind, ~singing down the hills and valleys. |
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:36:38 -0400, Dapper Dan wrote:
If I recall, I downloaded and use Network Magic and it organized the settings with the router for our 2 computers. Why? I just go to the web interface in the router to set things up. Never had to use any software to configure any router I have set up. Some of the newer ones include a Wizard in the Web GUI to guide you through the process. -- Norman ~Shine, bright morning light, ~now in the air the spring is coming. ~Sweet, blowing wind, ~singing down the hills and valleys. |
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Hi Puss......or should that be "furball"?? (G)
I have the same old DLink one sitting on the desk which has been there for 2 years? I don't rely on ANYTHING my ISP offers.....they offer Norton Av for starters, does that tell you?? I will look up the model and I do have the latest patch on my desktop. Oh, it is DI-784 and I did have winME hooked up to it, but the main reason I bought it was so Elayne could play Pogo on her Mac laptop downstairs, using that for a connection. We sorta managed OK, but then I unplugged it. But I will have another look at the instructions and write you. Willy thinks I am slightly retarded cuz I can't deal with this damn thing. It is right up there with DRIVERS!!!! Kissies.......Figgs "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... Figgs...... IMNHO, the worst possible thing you can do is use the ISP's software (or any other) to try and connect a router to your home network and the ISP itself. ALL routers (that I've ever seen) come with an inbuilt web interface - the trick is simply how to find and control it. If you let me know the make/model of your router/modem, then I'll try and guide you through the process. (best send details off-list - including your login details for the USB?? modem you currently use.... most of my old mail addies still work g) catch me if you can! VBEG -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk "Heather" wrote in message ... "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... Heather Are you confusing me with Mart, Mike or Noel??? (VBG). Sorry but I know just enough about computers to get myself into trouble. Nope....how could I confuse a "dapper dan" with a "furball" (Noel)??? ((G) And it WAS you that recommended the proggie.....I am going to try it this week. I downloaded it a long time ago, but never opened it. At that time I had WinME hooked up to it as well. Cheers from Brampton.....Heather If I recall, I downloaded and use Network Magic and it organized the settings with the router for our 2 computers. Hope things work out for you. regards "Heather" wrote in message ... OK, seeing as you are that close to me, do you want to come over and set up my blasted router?? It has sat here for a year not hooked up. Someone did give a name of a program that will help me do it and I did download it. So, I guess I will give it a shot once again. Gave my computer a good going over today for the Conficker/April 1st alleged onslaught. Wanna bet it's another Y2K?? OTOH, I used to watch just how fast real viruses moved across the world from the antivirus news groups......it was quite fascinating. That is when I met up with that "feisty redhead MVP", lol. Her office got hit in Oz. Cheers from Brampton......Figgs "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... I'm not understanding. To recap.....My internet service (and email) is with a cable company (Cogeco) in Ontario, Canada. I travel to Hilton Head and connect to the internet with a rental condo's wireless connection. I can receive my email via my Ontario cable company directly with Outlook even though I am connecting with Hargray but I cannot send email directly because Hargray's SMTP port is different from Cogeco's. Am I right so far? So is it being suggested that the next time I visit someplace that won't allow me to send email that I should try Verizon's SMTP port? Or if that won't work, am I supposed to call the local cable company and ask what port is used for sending even though my relationship is with a cable company back home? Sorry to be a bit thick on this but I would be grateful for a bit more clarification. Thanks Dan "Corday" wrote in message ... Hilton Head is serviced by a local company called Hargray Communications. They screw everything up including cable TV. Your brief hookup with Verizon showed Hargray was blocking you. -- I mastered Wordstar graphics! "Dapper Dan" wrote: This is not an OS issue but given my experience with ME's regulars, I thought this would be an appropriate place to obtain a resolution. I have just returned from a 2 week vacation in Hilton Head. I travelled with our laptop and had no trouble accessing the web or using Outlook while en route. However once there, I could no longer send mail in Outlook, although I could receive. The only other issue I had was that for some reason I could not access a particular website (www.skygolf.com) in order to download specific golf courses to my skycaddie GPS system. I initially thought that the website was offline but after calling the support staff, it was suggested that the problem was firewall related. It was not my firewall software because I configured it to allow skygolf, so I am assuming it was the router firewall. The villa/condo we rented had broadband wireless internet. On one occasion I was able to switch to another weaker wireless signal (offsite) that allowed access to skygolf and also to send mail via Outlook but I could not find that access again, which further reinforced the notion that the problem was related to the hardware firewall. Thus the question is what are my options if I should experience a similar problem in future travels? Is there a workaround? Thanks in advance. Dan |
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I need more than a simple Wizard to guide me thru the machinations of a
bloody router. I HATE THEM!! They are like men.....contrary and .....well you can fill in the rest, lol. "N. Miller" wrote in message ... On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:36:38 -0400, Dapper Dan wrote: If I recall, I downloaded and use Network Magic and it organized the settings with the router for our 2 computers. Why? I just go to the web interface in the router to set things up. Never had to use any software to configure any router I have set up. Some of the newer ones include a Wizard in the Web GUI to guide you through the process. -- Norman ~Shine, bright morning light, ~now in the air the spring is coming. ~Sweet, blowing wind, ~singing down the hills and valleys. |
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Ah - you have more than a wizard...... (by email)
OMG - ISP's offering Norton? bleuch! You and drivers.... nah - don't wanna go there! g routers are a doddle, though - after the first five minutes -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk "Heather" wrote in message ... Hi Puss......or should that be "furball"?? (G) I have the same old DLink one sitting on the desk which has been there for 2 years? I don't rely on ANYTHING my ISP offers.....they offer Norton Av for starters, does that tell you?? I will look up the model and I do have the latest patch on my desktop. Oh, it is DI-784 and I did have winME hooked up to it, but the main reason I bought it was so Elayne could play Pogo on her Mac laptop downstairs, using that for a connection. We sorta managed OK, but then I unplugged it. But I will have another look at the instructions and write you. Willy thinks I am slightly retarded cuz I can't deal with this damn thing. It is right up there with DRIVERS!!!! Kissies.......Figgs "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... Figgs...... IMNHO, the worst possible thing you can do is use the ISP's software (or any other) to try and connect a router to your home network and the ISP itself. ALL routers (that I've ever seen) come with an inbuilt web interface - the trick is simply how to find and control it. If you let me know the make/model of your router/modem, then I'll try and guide you through the process. (best send details off-list - including your login details for the USB?? modem you currently use.... most of my old mail addies still work g) catch me if you can! VBEG -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk "Heather" wrote in message ... "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... Heather Are you confusing me with Mart, Mike or Noel??? (VBG). Sorry but I know just enough about computers to get myself into trouble. Nope....how could I confuse a "dapper dan" with a "furball" (Noel)??? ((G) And it WAS you that recommended the proggie.....I am going to try it this week. I downloaded it a long time ago, but never opened it. At that time I had WinME hooked up to it as well. Cheers from Brampton.....Heather If I recall, I downloaded and use Network Magic and it organized the settings with the router for our 2 computers. Hope things work out for you. regards "Heather" wrote in message ... OK, seeing as you are that close to me, do you want to come over and set up my blasted router?? It has sat here for a year not hooked up. Someone did give a name of a program that will help me do it and I did download it. So, I guess I will give it a shot once again. Gave my computer a good going over today for the Conficker/April 1st alleged onslaught. Wanna bet it's another Y2K?? OTOH, I used to watch just how fast real viruses moved across the world from the antivirus news groups......it was quite fascinating. That is when I met up with that "feisty redhead MVP", lol. Her office got hit in Oz. Cheers from Brampton......Figgs "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... I'm not understanding. To recap.....My internet service (and email) is with a cable company (Cogeco) in Ontario, Canada. I travel to Hilton Head and connect to the internet with a rental condo's wireless connection. I can receive my email via my Ontario cable company directly with Outlook even though I am connecting with Hargray but I cannot send email directly because Hargray's SMTP port is different from Cogeco's. Am I right so far? So is it being suggested that the next time I visit someplace that won't allow me to send email that I should try Verizon's SMTP port? Or if that won't work, am I supposed to call the local cable company and ask what port is used for sending even though my relationship is with a cable company back home? Sorry to be a bit thick on this but I would be grateful for a bit more clarification. Thanks Dan "Corday" wrote in message ... Hilton Head is serviced by a local company called Hargray Communications. They screw everything up including cable TV. Your brief hookup with Verizon showed Hargray was blocking you. -- I mastered Wordstar graphics! "Dapper Dan" wrote: This is not an OS issue but given my experience with ME's regulars, I thought this would be an appropriate place to obtain a resolution. I have just returned from a 2 week vacation in Hilton Head. I travelled with our laptop and had no trouble accessing the web or using Outlook while en route. However once there, I could no longer send mail in Outlook, although I could receive. The only other issue I had was that for some reason I could not access a particular website (www.skygolf.com) in order to download specific golf courses to my skycaddie GPS system. I initially thought that the website was offline but after calling the support staff, it was suggested that the problem was firewall related. It was not my firewall software because I configured it to allow skygolf, so I am assuming it was the router firewall. The villa/condo we rented had broadband wireless internet. On one occasion I was able to switch to another weaker wireless signal (offsite) that allowed access to skygolf and also to send mail via Outlook but I could not find that access again, which further reinforced the notion that the problem was related to the hardware firewall. Thus the question is what are my options if I should experience a similar problem in future travels? Is there a workaround? Thanks in advance. Dan |
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