win 98 size and fat question

"Hot-Text" wrote in message
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Win95B can be Fat32 or a fat16 LBA too if it on that install that way
But Win95A is just FAT16. or FAT12 why?

Look we have 3.0, up to 3.? all fat
we have 95A
we have 95B
we have 95B-PLUS
we have 98FE
we have 98SE
we have 98SE-PLUS
we have ME
we have 2000
? why all the OS can't see all the FAT's for?

Because FAT32 wasn't developed until Win95B...every Microsoft operating
system before that doesn't support it, and support can't be
retroactively added.
--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+
http://dts-l.net/

"Paul in Houston TX" wrote in message
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Yup! I have old games that will only run on dos, win 31, win95,
and / or win 98. I've been getting the urge to play them
again. I have my doubts if I will be able to get them to work
on this comp though: X58A-UD3R mb, GTX470 vid.


Most if not all DOS games will run in either a DOS box or in a realmode
DOS boot from Win98 or Win95 OSR2, so you could use FAT32.

Your problem isn't the file system type, nor is it the speed issue Bill
mentioned....it's the fact that you will not be able to install Win9x
with that motherboard and/or video card. There are no Win9x drivers for
either....plus the fact that the video card is PCI-e.
--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+
http://dts-l.net/

"glee" wrote in message
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"Paul in Houston TX" wrote in message
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Yup! I have old games that will only run on dos, win 31, win95,
and / or win 98. I've been getting the urge to play them
again. I have my doubts if I will be able to get them to work
on this comp though: X58A-UD3R mb, GTX470 vid.


Most if not all DOS games will run in either a DOS box or in a realmode
DOS boot from Win98 or Win95 OSR2, so you could use FAT32.

Your problem isn't the file system type, nor is it the speed issue Bill
mentioned....it's the fact that you will not be able to install Win9x
with that motherboard and/or video card. There are no Win9x drivers for
either....plus the fact that the video card is PCI-e.
--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+
http://dts-l.net/

One of the main reasons I built a Win98SE box to use my Voodoo 3DFX V5
video card for Flight Sims that don't run on WinXP without workarounds
:-)

glee wrote:
"Paul in Houston TX" wrote in message
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Yup! I have old games that will only run on dos, win 31, win95,
and / or win 98. I've been getting the urge to play them
again. I have my doubts if I will be able to get them to work
on this comp though: X58A-UD3R mb, GTX470 vid.


Most if not all DOS games will run in either a DOS box or in a realmode
DOS boot from Win98 or Win95 OSR2, so you could use FAT32.

Your problem isn't the file system type, nor is it the speed issue Bill
mentioned....it's the fact that you will not be able to install Win9x
with that motherboard and/or video card. There are no Win9x drivers for
either....plus the fact that the video card is PCI-e.

Thanks Glen.
No drivers.

all the Drive are here

http://www.compaq.com/cpq-country/cpq_support.html

2. Enter a product number

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"Hot-Text" wrote in message
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all the Drive are here

http://www.compaq.com/cpq-country/cpq_support.html

2. Enter a product number

That's the web site for Compaq computers. The OP never suggested he was
using a Compaq computer. He specifically stated he was using a
particular Gigabyte motherboard and nVidia PCI-e video card. The
motherboard drivers are listed here, and none are for Win9x or earlier:
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pro...px?pID=3305#dl

--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+
http://dts-l.net/

In message , Bill in Co
writes:
[]
Yeah, really. One of the biggest problems I encountered with running some
really old programs was the speed - waaaaay too fast on today's computers.
[]
Not that it helps you, but reminds me of a bit of real nostalgia: the
turbo (or, un-turbo) button. Some _very_ early PCs had such a button,
which in one position (usually "in") ran the PC at its top speed, and in
the other position ran it at the speed of the original PC - 4.7 (I
think) MHz (yes megahertz!), so that software - there was some - which
assumed the clock rate was that would run (or rather, run at the correct
speed).

Some of the next generation of PCs still had the "turbo" button, but it
switched between two speeds, both of which were above the original. The
speeds were usually in the ratio about two or three to one.

That period also tended to have cases with a two (or, eventually, three)
digit LED readout of clock speed. (Usually - always, IME - the readout
wasn't actually a _count_ of the clock, but just had the various
segments of the LEDs directly driven.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

If you don't know how to orient your card to swipe it through the reader, the
checkout person will say, "Strip down, face toward me." (DNRC newsletter 1997)

On 10/26/2010 22:40, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Bill in Co wrote:

Well, if it's of any help, he was also talking about Win95, so it
looks like he wants to stick with the old basic file system. Maybe
he's got some old utilities that only work on FAT16. Otherwise I can't
see any reason to use FAT16.

Yup! I have old games that will only run on dos, win 31, win95,
and / or win 98. I've been getting the urge to play them
again. I have my doubts if I will be able to get them to work
on this comp though: X58A-UD3R mb, GTX470 vid.

You may be able to run most of them in a virtual environment. Install
VPC, install your OS inside a virtual machine, and then install your
programs. It beats the hassle of dual booting, and will save you disk space.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/e...displaylang=en

Bill Blanton wrote:
On 10/26/2010 22:40, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Bill in Co wrote:

Well, if it's of any help, he was also talking about Win95, so it
looks like he wants to stick with the old basic file system. Maybe
he's got some old utilities that only work on FAT16. Otherwise I can't
see any reason to use FAT16.

Yup! I have old games that will only run on dos, win 31, win95,
and / or win 98. I've been getting the urge to play them
again. I have my doubts if I will be able to get them to work
on this comp though: X58A-UD3R mb, GTX470 vid.

You may be able to run most of them in a virtual environment. Install
VPC, install your OS inside a virtual machine, and then install your
programs. It beats the hassle of dual booting, and will save you disk
space.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/e...displaylang=en

Even the (old) games run in VPC, most will run waaaay too fast, as I
mentioned. Trying to find a solid workaround for that has been "a bit"
challenging (something that (reliably) "wastes" the right amount of CPU
cycles).

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Bill in Co
writes:
[]
Yeah, really. One of the biggest problems I encountered with running
some
really old programs was the speed - waaaaay too fast on today's
computers.
[]
Not that it helps you, but reminds me of a bit of real nostalgia: the
turbo (or, un-turbo) button. Some _very_ early PCs had such a button,
which in one position (usually "in") ran the PC at its top speed, and in
the other position ran it at the speed of the original PC - 4.7 (I
think) MHz (yes megahertz!), so that software - there was some - which
assumed the clock rate was that would run (or rather, run at the correct
speed).

Some of the next generation of PCs still had the "turbo" button, but it
switched between two speeds, both of which were above the original. The
speeds were usually in the ratio about two or three to one.

That period also tended to have cases with a two (or, eventually, three)
digit LED readout of clock speed. (Usually - always, IME - the readout
wasn't actually a _count_ of the clock, but just had the various
segments of the LEDs directly driven.)

I remember that turbo button. But on today's computers, those really old
games run (IF they run) at lightning speed, and the workarounds for that are
few and far between, as mentioned!