Antivirus software for 98

AVAST! Version 4.8 home Edition Edition - Free Antivirus
Build: Sep2009(4.8.1368)
My VPS file (virus database) Compilation date: 01/06/2010
http://www.avast.com




"Jack" wrote in message
...
What type of antivirus software do people using 98 use now that Norton
and AVG no longer support 98? My 98 machine still outperforms my XP
significantly.

Opera 10.10 will improve that 433 MHz YouTube playing machine of yours!
http://www.opera.com



"Jack" wrote in message
...
Guy,
Thank you for the reply. Sorry about the multi-posting. I really
like my 98 machine better than my xp machine. My only complaint is
that my 98 machine is only a 433mz and is very slow in playing youtube
videos. Do you know of any way to improve that? Also, I am using
IE 6 and a number of web sites have said that they will not work on
IE6 shortly. Any advice on that? Thanks again for your help.

On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 20:37:36 -0500, 98 Guy wrote:

Don't be a jack-ass by multi-posting.

Why didn't you cross-post instead?

Jack wrote:

What type of antivirus software do people using 98 use now that
Norton and AVG no longer support 98?

There are no "drive-by" vulnerabilities that affects Windows 98. Never
has been.

And most of the malware that tricks users to perform the installation
doesn't run on Windows 98.

So right off the bat, the need for AntiVirus software for Windows 98 is
basically zero, and has been for at least the past 3 or 4 years.

Norton Anti-Virus 2002 is probably the best and least resource-intensive
AV program for win-98, and it can still be updated by downloading the
Symantec Intellgent Updater package. This brings NAV 2002 completely
up-to-date with the most recent virus definitiona and scan engine. If
you can't find NAV-2002 on a torrent and you really want it - let me
know. I can put it on a torrent or a download site.

If you are seeking an antivirus package to perform on-demand scanning of
suspicous files (that you might acquire from the net) then I suggest
that instead of seeking an AV app, that you submit suspicious files to
virustotal.com where they will be scanned by 40 different AV programs.

My 98 machine still outperforms my XP significantly.

Because Windows 98 runs all apps in i86 Ring-0, has no cumbersome
privledge or security accounts model, and runs on the faster FAT32 file
system, it's a natural result that it's a faster operating system
compared to the bloated NT-based OS's.

Opera 10.10 will improve that 433 MHz YouTube playing machine of yours!
http://www.opera.com



"Jack" wrote in message
...
Guy,
Thank you for the reply. Sorry about the multi-posting. I really
like my 98 machine better than my xp machine. My only complaint is
that my 98 machine is only a 433mz and is very slow in playing youtube
videos. Do you know of any way to improve that? Also, I am using
IE 6 and a number of web sites have said that they will not work on
IE6 shortly. Any advice on that? Thanks again for your help.

On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 20:37:36 -0500, 98 Guy wrote:

Don't be a jack-ass by multi-posting.

Why didn't you cross-post instead?

Jack wrote:

What type of antivirus software do people using 98 use now that
Norton and AVG no longer support 98?

There are no "drive-by" vulnerabilities that affects Windows 98. Never
has been.

And most of the malware that tricks users to perform the installation
doesn't run on Windows 98.

So right off the bat, the need for AntiVirus software for Windows 98 is
basically zero, and has been for at least the past 3 or 4 years.

Norton Anti-Virus 2002 is probably the best and least resource-intensive
AV program for win-98, and it can still be updated by downloading the
Symantec Intellgent Updater package. This brings NAV 2002 completely
up-to-date with the most recent virus definitiona and scan engine. If
you can't find NAV-2002 on a torrent and you really want it - let me
know. I can put it on a torrent or a download site.

If you are seeking an antivirus package to perform on-demand scanning of
suspicous files (that you might acquire from the net) then I suggest
that instead of seeking an AV app, that you submit suspicious files to
virustotal.com where they will be scanned by 40 different AV programs.

My 98 machine still outperforms my XP significantly.

Because Windows 98 runs all apps in i86 Ring-0, has no cumbersome
privledge or security accounts model, and runs on the faster FAT32 file
system, it's a natural result that it's a faster operating system
compared to the bloated NT-based OS's.

MEB wrote:
On 01/08/2010 08:12 PM, Jack wrote:
What type of antivirus software do people using 98 use now that Norton
and AVG no longer support 98? My 98 machine still outperforms my XP
significantly.

Well, those quit support long ago.

AVAST supposedly will continue supplying defs for its 4.8 version
through this year {supposedly}, though it supplies no support nor newer
versions;

several PAID AV providers offer 9X versions as part of their packages;

ClamAV is free
http://www.clamwin.com/;



ClamAV is a good option.

It does not supply "real time" scanning
so any downloads should be manually scanned

and of course full scans scheduled on a regular basis.


Though that may be considered a minus...
on a low end machine that can be helpful in a way
as "real time" scanning of course slows the machine down

MEB wrote:
On 01/08/2010 08:12 PM, Jack wrote:
What type of antivirus software do people using 98 use now that Norton
and AVG no longer support 98? My 98 machine still outperforms my XP
significantly.

Well, those quit support long ago.

AVAST supposedly will continue supplying defs for its 4.8 version
through this year {supposedly}, though it supplies no support nor newer
versions;

several PAID AV providers offer 9X versions as part of their packages;

ClamAV is free
http://www.clamwin.com/;



ClamAV is a good option.

It does not supply "real time" scanning
so any downloads should be manually scanned

and of course full scans scheduled on a regular basis.


Though that may be considered a minus...
on a low end machine that can be helpful in a way
as "real time" scanning of course slows the machine down

On 01/09/2010 07:47 AM, philo wrote:
MEB wrote:
On 01/08/2010 08:12 PM, Jack wrote:
What type of antivirus software do people using 98 use now that Norton
and AVG no longer support 98? My 98 machine still outperforms my XP
significantly.

Well, those quit support long ago.

AVAST supposedly will continue supplying defs for its 4.8 version
through this year {supposedly}, though it supplies no support nor newer
versions;

several PAID AV providers offer 9X versions as part of their packages;

ClamAV is free
http://www.clamwin.com/;



ClamAV is a good option.

It does not supply "real time" scanning
so any downloads should be manually scanned

and of course full scans scheduled on a regular basis.


Though that may be considered a minus...
on a low end machine that can be helpful in a way
as "real time" scanning of course slows the machine down



Right, you can always use something like Task Scheduler and run it per
week, day, or hour.. though its not rated as highly as real-time scanner
inclusive AV programs (in part due to the lack of real-time scanning),
and does the occasional "false positive" or missed malware [they all do
that]. HOWEVER, if Win9X users participate in its development by support
and "hands-on" activities, supplying REAL input rather than merely
complaints, this MAY be one application that can help extend Win9X usage.
The potential problem is Windows user have become abusive to
programmers who fail to spend large amounts of time on the GUI, rather
than the actual internal workings of whatever application. Somewhere
along the way, looks became more important.
I'd rather have something with old style color and icons, a couple
clickable buttons with the standard Windows box and menu, and works
REALLY WELL [minimalistic]; than an application with millions of colors,
transparency, and an extensive menu with pretty icons and looks like XP
or VISTA. But one can look at what ALWIL endured in its forums and the
complaints leveled against AVAST and its minimal "plain jane" interface
to see what is important to Windows users, "it ain't da proggy, its da
looks" and setup ease.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---

On 01/09/2010 07:47 AM, philo wrote:
MEB wrote:
On 01/08/2010 08:12 PM, Jack wrote:
What type of antivirus software do people using 98 use now that Norton
and AVG no longer support 98? My 98 machine still outperforms my XP
significantly.

Well, those quit support long ago.

AVAST supposedly will continue supplying defs for its 4.8 version
through this year {supposedly}, though it supplies no support nor newer
versions;

several PAID AV providers offer 9X versions as part of their packages;

ClamAV is free
http://www.clamwin.com/;



ClamAV is a good option.

It does not supply "real time" scanning
so any downloads should be manually scanned

and of course full scans scheduled on a regular basis.


Though that may be considered a minus...
on a low end machine that can be helpful in a way
as "real time" scanning of course slows the machine down



Right, you can always use something like Task Scheduler and run it per
week, day, or hour.. though its not rated as highly as real-time scanner
inclusive AV programs (in part due to the lack of real-time scanning),
and does the occasional "false positive" or missed malware [they all do
that]. HOWEVER, if Win9X users participate in its development by support
and "hands-on" activities, supplying REAL input rather than merely
complaints, this MAY be one application that can help extend Win9X usage.
The potential problem is Windows user have become abusive to
programmers who fail to spend large amounts of time on the GUI, rather
than the actual internal workings of whatever application. Somewhere
along the way, looks became more important.
I'd rather have something with old style color and icons, a couple
clickable buttons with the standard Windows box and menu, and works
REALLY WELL [minimalistic]; than an application with millions of colors,
transparency, and an extensive menu with pretty icons and looks like XP
or VISTA. But one can look at what ALWIL endured in its forums and the
complaints leveled against AVAST and its minimal "plain jane" interface
to see what is important to Windows users, "it ain't da proggy, its da
looks" and setup ease.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---

On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 13:55:38 -0500, MEB
wrote:

(snip)

The potential problem is Windows user have become abusive to
programmers who fail to spend large amounts of time on the GUI, rather
than the actual internal workings of whatever application. Somewhere
along the way, looks became more important.
I'd rather have something with old style color and icons, a couple
clickable buttons with the standard Windows box and menu, and works
REALLY WELL [minimalistic]; than an application with millions of colors,
transparency, and an extensive menu with pretty icons and looks like XP
or VISTA. But one can look at what ALWIL endured in its forums and the
complaints leveled against AVAST and its minimal "plain jane" interface
to see what is important to Windows users, "it ain't da proggy, its da
looks" and setup ease.

which was one reason I hung onto the last F-Prot until it was no
longer possible to get definition updates. The look didn't matter,
the functionality certainly did. R.I.P. F-Prot for DOS.

On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 13:55:38 -0500, MEB
wrote:

(snip)

The potential problem is Windows user have become abusive to
programmers who fail to spend large amounts of time on the GUI, rather
than the actual internal workings of whatever application. Somewhere
along the way, looks became more important.
I'd rather have something with old style color and icons, a couple
clickable buttons with the standard Windows box and menu, and works
REALLY WELL [minimalistic]; than an application with millions of colors,
transparency, and an extensive menu with pretty icons and looks like XP
or VISTA. But one can look at what ALWIL endured in its forums and the
complaints leveled against AVAST and its minimal "plain jane" interface
to see what is important to Windows users, "it ain't da proggy, its da
looks" and setup ease.

which was one reason I hung onto the last F-Prot until it was no
longer possible to get definition updates. The look didn't matter,
the functionality certainly did. R.I.P. F-Prot for DOS.

Hot-text wrote:
AVAST! Version 4.8 home Edition Edition - Free Antivirus
Build: Sep2009(4.8.1368)
My VPS file (virus database) Compilation date: 01/06/2010
http://www.avast.com

Yep. That's the one I continue to use. It's main peccadillo is that it
is tough to use Explorer or the Toolbar until the update of virus
definitions is completed. But everything is fine after that! That
v.4.8.1368 is fairly recent -- so I question whether they really will
ever abandon us lowly Win98 users after all!

"Jack" wrote in message
...
What type of antivirus software do people using 98 use now that
Norton and AVG no longer support 98? My 98 machine still
outperforms my XP significantly.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR