Having strange local network printing problem - could use some help/ideas

MEB wrote:
Oh forgot, Normc did you unplug {depower} that printer for awhile as I had
suggested previously... the failure to print a full test page indicates
potential direct printer issues..


MEB & Brian

I've been wrongly visualizing the system situation. I was thinking that
the base computer was taking care of everything required for printing.
But you guys got me thinking: I suspect that the HP driver is installed
on all three machines, and one of those drivers is not working, as
you've both suggested.

I will reinstall tomorrow, either from the CD or from a downloaded
update. I'll let you know.

MEB wrote:
Oh forgot, Normc did you unplug {depower} that printer for awhile as I had
suggested previously... the failure to print a full test page indicates
potential direct printer issues..


But why does the printer print from the other two machines?

MEB wrote:
Oh forgot, Normc did you unplug {depower} that printer for awhile as I had
suggested previously... the failure to print a full test page indicates
potential direct printer issues..


But why does the printer print from the other two machines?

{Thinking Local network access is handled a little differently than the
local machine...}

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"normc" wrote in message
...
| MEB wrote:
| Oh forgot, Normc did you unplug {depower} that printer for awhile as I
had
| suggested previously... the failure to print a full test page indicates
| potential direct printer issues..
|
|
| But why does the printer print from the other two machines?

{Thinking Local network access is handled a little differently than the
local machine...}

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MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
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"normc" wrote in message
...
| MEB wrote:
| Oh forgot, Normc did you unplug {depower} that printer for awhile as I
had
| suggested previously... the failure to print a full test page indicates
| potential direct printer issues..
|
|
| But why does the printer print from the other two machines?

MEB wrote:
{Thinking Local network access is handled a little differently than the
local machine...}


Reinstalled driver. Now works. Thanks for your time.

MEB wrote:
{Thinking Local network access is handled a little differently than the
local machine...}


Reinstalled driver. Now works. Thanks for your time.

Brian A. wrote:
"normc" wrote in message
...
Thanks Brian -

Brian A. wrote:
Thanks for that MEB, correct me if I misunderstood anything so I
have it right.

The OP has a printer connected to a 98SE machine as a local shared
printer.

Right

The printer is shared with remote XP machines on the network.

Probably doesn't matter, but one remote is XPSP2 and one is 98SE

Sometimes the OS flavor can matter, however in this case it doesn't.


The printer fails on the 98SE machine it's physically connected to
after a shutdown/restart.

Fails any time, i.e. will not print from base machine at any time.

The printer still works on the remote machines after a shutdown/restart?

Right.

This doesn't make sense, hence the purpose of the
question mark.

Does it make more sense now?

Only if the drivers are installed on the other two machines, if they
aren't and the shared printer isn't working on the host machine they
printer should fail on all machines.


With regard to your suggestion about reinstalling the printer, I'm a
great believer in, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." If it was a
printer install problem, how would the other two machines be able to
make it print via the base machine?

Yet it is broke in a sense if it won't print, especially when the
machine it's connected to is the machine it doesn't print from. Again,
that falls back to my last statement of where the drivers are
installed. If the drivers are installed on all networked machines and
the printer only fails on one machine, the drivers on that machine have
a great possibility of being corrupt.


I know little about my network. I'm not sure about the
layout/architecture in the base machine. All I'm aware of is {1} a
NIC and a cable to the modem and (2) the cable to the printer.

Is there no router involved? I did see questions about one although a
router shouldn't have any effect.
The USB cable from the printer is connected directly to the 98SE
machine, correct?


What could be going wrong in the base machine with the combining of
all three machines and the distribution to two of the machines, but
not to the third.

Has it ever printed to the host machine? If yes, driver corruption.
If no, possibly USB version/drivers not compatible with mobo, improper
USB setting in the BIOS and/or improper configuration on the host.

Will it print on the host if it's not shared?


Thanks again.

That is,

Reinstalled driver. Now working as it should. Thanks for your help.

Brian A. wrote:
"normc" wrote in message
...
Thanks Brian -

Brian A. wrote:
Thanks for that MEB, correct me if I misunderstood anything so I
have it right.

The OP has a printer connected to a 98SE machine as a local shared
printer.

Right

The printer is shared with remote XP machines on the network.

Probably doesn't matter, but one remote is XPSP2 and one is 98SE

Sometimes the OS flavor can matter, however in this case it doesn't.


The printer fails on the 98SE machine it's physically connected to
after a shutdown/restart.

Fails any time, i.e. will not print from base machine at any time.

The printer still works on the remote machines after a shutdown/restart?

Right.

This doesn't make sense, hence the purpose of the
question mark.

Does it make more sense now?

Only if the drivers are installed on the other two machines, if they
aren't and the shared printer isn't working on the host machine they
printer should fail on all machines.


With regard to your suggestion about reinstalling the printer, I'm a
great believer in, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." If it was a
printer install problem, how would the other two machines be able to
make it print via the base machine?

Yet it is broke in a sense if it won't print, especially when the
machine it's connected to is the machine it doesn't print from. Again,
that falls back to my last statement of where the drivers are
installed. If the drivers are installed on all networked machines and
the printer only fails on one machine, the drivers on that machine have
a great possibility of being corrupt.


I know little about my network. I'm not sure about the
layout/architecture in the base machine. All I'm aware of is {1} a
NIC and a cable to the modem and (2) the cable to the printer.

Is there no router involved? I did see questions about one although a
router shouldn't have any effect.
The USB cable from the printer is connected directly to the 98SE
machine, correct?


What could be going wrong in the base machine with the combining of
all three machines and the distribution to two of the machines, but
not to the third.

Has it ever printed to the host machine? If yes, driver corruption.
If no, possibly USB version/drivers not compatible with mobo, improper
USB setting in the BIOS and/or improper configuration on the host.

Will it print on the host if it's not shared?


Thanks again.

That is,

Reinstalled driver. Now working as it should. Thanks for your help.

"normc" wrote in message
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Reinstalled driver. Now working as it should. Thanks for your help.
Glad to see you're back in the "loop", have fun and enjoy.

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