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Having strange local network printing problem - could use somehelp/ideas
Thanks Brian -
Brian A. wrote: Thanks for that MEB, correct me if I misunderstood anything so I have it right. The OP has a printer connected to a 98SE machine as a local shared printer. Right The printer is shared with remote XP machines on the network. Probably doesn't matter, but one remote is XPSP2 and one is 98SE The printer fails on the 98SE machine it's physically connected to after a shutdown/restart. Fails any time, i.e. will not print from base machine at any time. The printer still works on the remote machines after a shutdown/restart? Right. This doesn't make sense, hence the purpose of the question mark. Does it make more sense now? With regard to your suggestion about reinstalling the printer, I'm a great believer in, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." If it was a printer install problem, how would the other two machines be able to make it print via the base machine? I know little about my network. I'm not sure about the layout/architecture in the base machine. All I'm aware of is {1} a NIC and a cable to the modem and (2) the cable to the printer. What could be going wrong in the base machine with the combining of all three machines and the distribution to two of the machines, but not to the third. Thanks again. That is, |
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Having strange local network printing problem - could use somehelp/ideas
Thanks Brian -
Brian A. wrote: Thanks for that MEB, correct me if I misunderstood anything so I have it right. The OP has a printer connected to a 98SE machine as a local shared printer. Right The printer is shared with remote XP machines on the network. Probably doesn't matter, but one remote is XPSP2 and one is 98SE The printer fails on the 98SE machine it's physically connected to after a shutdown/restart. Fails any time, i.e. will not print from base machine at any time. The printer still works on the remote machines after a shutdown/restart? Right. This doesn't make sense, hence the purpose of the question mark. Does it make more sense now? With regard to your suggestion about reinstalling the printer, I'm a great believer in, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." If it was a printer install problem, how would the other two machines be able to make it print via the base machine? I know little about my network. I'm not sure about the layout/architecture in the base machine. All I'm aware of is {1} a NIC and a cable to the modem and (2) the cable to the printer. What could be going wrong in the base machine with the combining of all three machines and the distribution to two of the machines, but not to the third. Thanks again. That is, |
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Having strange local network printing problem - could use some help/ideas
"normc" wrote in message
... Thanks Brian - Brian A. wrote: Thanks for that MEB, correct me if I misunderstood anything so I have it right. The OP has a printer connected to a 98SE machine as a local shared printer. Right The printer is shared with remote XP machines on the network. Probably doesn't matter, but one remote is XPSP2 and one is 98SE Sometimes the OS flavor can matter, however in this case it doesn't. The printer fails on the 98SE machine it's physically connected to after a shutdown/restart. Fails any time, i.e. will not print from base machine at any time. The printer still works on the remote machines after a shutdown/restart? Right. This doesn't make sense, hence the purpose of the question mark. Does it make more sense now? Only if the drivers are installed on the other two machines, if they aren't and the shared printer isn't working on the host machine they printer should fail on all machines. With regard to your suggestion about reinstalling the printer, I'm a great believer in, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." If it was a printer install problem, how would the other two machines be able to make it print via the base machine? Yet it is broke in a sense if it won't print, especially when the machine it's connected to is the machine it doesn't print from. Again, that falls back to my last statement of where the drivers are installed. If the drivers are installed on all networked machines and the printer only fails on one machine, the drivers on that machine have a great possibility of being corrupt. I know little about my network. I'm not sure about the layout/architecture in the base machine. All I'm aware of is {1} a NIC and a cable to the modem and (2) the cable to the printer. Is there no router involved? I did see questions about one although a router shouldn't have any effect. The USB cable from the printer is connected directly to the 98SE machine, correct? What could be going wrong in the base machine with the combining of all three machines and the distribution to two of the machines, but not to the third. Has it ever printed to the host machine? If yes, driver corruption. If no, possibly USB version/drivers not compatible with mobo, improper USB setting in the BIOS and/or improper configuration on the host. Will it print on the host if it's not shared? Thanks again. That is, -- Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 |
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Having strange local network printing problem - could use some help/ideas
"normc" wrote in message
... Thanks Brian - Brian A. wrote: Thanks for that MEB, correct me if I misunderstood anything so I have it right. The OP has a printer connected to a 98SE machine as a local shared printer. Right The printer is shared with remote XP machines on the network. Probably doesn't matter, but one remote is XPSP2 and one is 98SE Sometimes the OS flavor can matter, however in this case it doesn't. The printer fails on the 98SE machine it's physically connected to after a shutdown/restart. Fails any time, i.e. will not print from base machine at any time. The printer still works on the remote machines after a shutdown/restart? Right. This doesn't make sense, hence the purpose of the question mark. Does it make more sense now? Only if the drivers are installed on the other two machines, if they aren't and the shared printer isn't working on the host machine they printer should fail on all machines. With regard to your suggestion about reinstalling the printer, I'm a great believer in, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." If it was a printer install problem, how would the other two machines be able to make it print via the base machine? Yet it is broke in a sense if it won't print, especially when the machine it's connected to is the machine it doesn't print from. Again, that falls back to my last statement of where the drivers are installed. If the drivers are installed on all networked machines and the printer only fails on one machine, the drivers on that machine have a great possibility of being corrupt. I know little about my network. I'm not sure about the layout/architecture in the base machine. All I'm aware of is {1} a NIC and a cable to the modem and (2) the cable to the printer. Is there no router involved? I did see questions about one although a router shouldn't have any effect. The USB cable from the printer is connected directly to the 98SE machine, correct? What could be going wrong in the base machine with the combining of all three machines and the distribution to two of the machines, but not to the third. Has it ever printed to the host machine? If yes, driver corruption. If no, possibly USB version/drivers not compatible with mobo, improper USB setting in the BIOS and/or improper configuration on the host. Will it print on the host if it's not shared? Thanks again. That is, -- Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 |
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Having strange local network printing problem - could use some help/ideas
Since there appears to be issues with slow down in other areas of his
computer [the SOL game] perhaps there are memory issues, swap, or scanning issues. Plus there is now a failure on the local/base machine What Anti-Virus is on the machine? PLEASE don't say Norton/Symantec or CA.... How about running memload, and some test tools like SpyWare/Malware detection, and other?? Normc, what make and model of computer [or motherboard if homebuilt], memory installed, video card, and what adapters [down a different path perhaps] I still want to know if this is onboard USB or an adapter, how much disk space is available, check the folder C:\WINDOWS\spool {what's in it}, when was the last time the temps were cleaned... {Thinking Local network access is handled a little differently than the local machine...} -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ "Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message ... | "normc" wrote in message | ... | Thanks Brian - | | Brian A. wrote: | Thanks for that MEB, correct me if I misunderstood anything so I have it | right. | | The OP has a printer connected to a 98SE machine as a local shared printer. | | Right | | The printer is shared with remote XP machines on the network. | | Probably doesn't matter, but one remote is XPSP2 and one is 98SE | | Sometimes the OS flavor can matter, however in this case it doesn't. | | | The printer fails on the 98SE machine it's physically connected to after a | shutdown/restart. | | Fails any time, i.e. will not print from base machine at any time. | | The printer still works on the remote machines after a shutdown/restart? | | Right. | | This doesn't make sense, hence the purpose of the | question mark. | | Does it make more sense now? | | Only if the drivers are installed on the other two machines, if they aren't | and the shared printer isn't working on the host machine they printer should | fail on all machines. | | | With regard to your suggestion about reinstalling the printer, I'm a great | believer in, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." If it was a printer install | problem, how would the other two machines be able to make it print via the | base machine? | | Yet it is broke in a sense if it won't print, especially when the machine it's | connected to is the machine it doesn't print from. Again, that falls back to my | last statement of where the drivers are installed. If the drivers are installed | on all networked machines and the printer only fails on one machine, the drivers | on that machine have a great possibility of being corrupt. | | | I know little about my network. I'm not sure about the layout/architecture in | the base machine. All I'm aware of is {1} a NIC and a cable to the modem and | (2) the cable to the printer. | | Is there no router involved? I did see questions about one although a router | shouldn't have any effect. | The USB cable from the printer is connected directly to the 98SE machine, | correct? | | | What could be going wrong in the base machine with the combining of all three | machines and the distribution to two of the machines, but not to the third. | | Has it ever printed to the host machine? If yes, driver corruption. If no, | possibly USB version/drivers not compatible with mobo, improper USB setting in | the BIOS and/or improper configuration on the host. | | Will it print on the host if it's not shared? | | | Thanks again. | | That is, | | | -- | | | Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience } | Conflicts start where information lacks. | http://basconotw.mvps.org/ | | Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm | How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 | | |
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Having strange local network printing problem - could use some help/ideas
Since there appears to be issues with slow down in other areas of his
computer [the SOL game] perhaps there are memory issues, swap, or scanning issues. Plus there is now a failure on the local/base machine What Anti-Virus is on the machine? PLEASE don't say Norton/Symantec or CA.... How about running memload, and some test tools like SpyWare/Malware detection, and other?? Normc, what make and model of computer [or motherboard if homebuilt], memory installed, video card, and what adapters [down a different path perhaps] I still want to know if this is onboard USB or an adapter, how much disk space is available, check the folder C:\WINDOWS\spool {what's in it}, when was the last time the temps were cleaned... {Thinking Local network access is handled a little differently than the local machine...} -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ "Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message ... | "normc" wrote in message | ... | Thanks Brian - | | Brian A. wrote: | Thanks for that MEB, correct me if I misunderstood anything so I have it | right. | | The OP has a printer connected to a 98SE machine as a local shared printer. | | Right | | The printer is shared with remote XP machines on the network. | | Probably doesn't matter, but one remote is XPSP2 and one is 98SE | | Sometimes the OS flavor can matter, however in this case it doesn't. | | | The printer fails on the 98SE machine it's physically connected to after a | shutdown/restart. | | Fails any time, i.e. will not print from base machine at any time. | | The printer still works on the remote machines after a shutdown/restart? | | Right. | | This doesn't make sense, hence the purpose of the | question mark. | | Does it make more sense now? | | Only if the drivers are installed on the other two machines, if they aren't | and the shared printer isn't working on the host machine they printer should | fail on all machines. | | | With regard to your suggestion about reinstalling the printer, I'm a great | believer in, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." If it was a printer install | problem, how would the other two machines be able to make it print via the | base machine? | | Yet it is broke in a sense if it won't print, especially when the machine it's | connected to is the machine it doesn't print from. Again, that falls back to my | last statement of where the drivers are installed. If the drivers are installed | on all networked machines and the printer only fails on one machine, the drivers | on that machine have a great possibility of being corrupt. | | | I know little about my network. I'm not sure about the layout/architecture in | the base machine. All I'm aware of is {1} a NIC and a cable to the modem and | (2) the cable to the printer. | | Is there no router involved? I did see questions about one although a router | shouldn't have any effect. | The USB cable from the printer is connected directly to the 98SE machine, | correct? | | | What could be going wrong in the base machine with the combining of all three | machines and the distribution to two of the machines, but not to the third. | | Has it ever printed to the host machine? If yes, driver corruption. If no, | possibly USB version/drivers not compatible with mobo, improper USB setting in | the BIOS and/or improper configuration on the host. | | Will it print on the host if it's not shared? | | | Thanks again. | | That is, | | | -- | | | Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience } | Conflicts start where information lacks. | http://basconotw.mvps.org/ | | Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm | How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 | | |
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Having strange local network printing problem - could use some help/ideas
Oh forgot, Normc did you unplug {depower} that printer for awhile as I had
suggested previously... the failure to print a full test page indicates potential direct printer issues.. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ "MEB" meb@not wrote in message ... | Since there appears to be issues with slow down in other areas of his | computer [the SOL game] perhaps there are memory issues, swap, or scanning | issues. Plus there is now a failure on the local/base machine | | What Anti-Virus is on the machine? PLEASE don't say Norton/Symantec or | CA.... | | How about running memload, and some test tools like SpyWare/Malware | detection, and other?? | | Normc, what make and model of computer [or motherboard if homebuilt], | memory installed, video card, and what adapters [down a different path | perhaps] I still want to know if this is onboard USB or an adapter, how much | disk space is available, check the folder C:\WINDOWS\spool {what's in it}, | when was the last time the temps were cleaned... | | {Thinking Local network access is handled a little differently than the | local machine...} | | -- | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | -- | _________ | | "Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message | ... | | "normc" wrote in message | | ... | | Thanks Brian - | | | | Brian A. wrote: | | Thanks for that MEB, correct me if I misunderstood anything so I have | it | | right. | | | | The OP has a printer connected to a 98SE machine as a local shared | printer. | | | | Right | | | | The printer is shared with remote XP machines on the network. | | | | Probably doesn't matter, but one remote is XPSP2 and one is 98SE | | | | Sometimes the OS flavor can matter, however in this case it doesn't. | | | | | | The printer fails on the 98SE machine it's physically connected to | after a | | shutdown/restart. | | | | Fails any time, i.e. will not print from base machine at any time. | | | | The printer still works on the remote machines after a | shutdown/restart? | | | | Right. | | | | This doesn't make sense, hence the purpose of the | | question mark. | | | | Does it make more sense now? | | | | Only if the drivers are installed on the other two machines, if they | aren't | | and the shared printer isn't working on the host machine they printer | should | | fail on all machines. | | | | | | With regard to your suggestion about reinstalling the printer, I'm a | great | | believer in, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." If it was a printer | install | | problem, how would the other two machines be able to make it print via | the | | base machine? | | | | Yet it is broke in a sense if it won't print, especially when the | machine it's | | connected to is the machine it doesn't print from. Again, that falls back | to my | | last statement of where the drivers are installed. If the drivers are | installed | | on all networked machines and the printer only fails on one machine, the | drivers | | on that machine have a great possibility of being corrupt. | | | | | | I know little about my network. I'm not sure about the | layout/architecture in | | the base machine. All I'm aware of is {1} a NIC and a cable to the | modem and | | (2) the cable to the printer. | | | | Is there no router involved? I did see questions about one although a | router | | shouldn't have any effect. | | The USB cable from the printer is connected directly to the 98SE | machine, | | correct? | | | | | | What could be going wrong in the base machine with the combining of all | three | | machines and the distribution to two of the machines, but not to the | third. | | | | Has it ever printed to the host machine? If yes, driver corruption. If | no, | | possibly USB version/drivers not compatible with mobo, improper USB | setting in | | the BIOS and/or improper configuration on the host. | | | | Will it print on the host if it's not shared? | | | | | | Thanks again. | | | | That is, | | | | | | -- | | | | | | Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience } | | Conflicts start where information lacks. | | http://basconotw.mvps.org/ | | | | Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm | | How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 | | | | | | |
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Having strange local network printing problem - could use some help/ideas
Oh forgot, Normc did you unplug {depower} that printer for awhile as I had
suggested previously... the failure to print a full test page indicates potential direct printer issues.. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ "MEB" meb@not wrote in message ... | Since there appears to be issues with slow down in other areas of his | computer [the SOL game] perhaps there are memory issues, swap, or scanning | issues. Plus there is now a failure on the local/base machine | | What Anti-Virus is on the machine? PLEASE don't say Norton/Symantec or | CA.... | | How about running memload, and some test tools like SpyWare/Malware | detection, and other?? | | Normc, what make and model of computer [or motherboard if homebuilt], | memory installed, video card, and what adapters [down a different path | perhaps] I still want to know if this is onboard USB or an adapter, how much | disk space is available, check the folder C:\WINDOWS\spool {what's in it}, | when was the last time the temps were cleaned... | | {Thinking Local network access is handled a little differently than the | local machine...} | | -- | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | -- | _________ | | "Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message | ... | | "normc" wrote in message | | ... | | Thanks Brian - | | | | Brian A. wrote: | | Thanks for that MEB, correct me if I misunderstood anything so I have | it | | right. | | | | The OP has a printer connected to a 98SE machine as a local shared | printer. | | | | Right | | | | The printer is shared with remote XP machines on the network. | | | | Probably doesn't matter, but one remote is XPSP2 and one is 98SE | | | | Sometimes the OS flavor can matter, however in this case it doesn't. | | | | | | The printer fails on the 98SE machine it's physically connected to | after a | | shutdown/restart. | | | | Fails any time, i.e. will not print from base machine at any time. | | | | The printer still works on the remote machines after a | shutdown/restart? | | | | Right. | | | | This doesn't make sense, hence the purpose of the | | question mark. | | | | Does it make more sense now? | | | | Only if the drivers are installed on the other two machines, if they | aren't | | and the shared printer isn't working on the host machine they printer | should | | fail on all machines. | | | | | | With regard to your suggestion about reinstalling the printer, I'm a | great | | believer in, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." If it was a printer | install | | problem, how would the other two machines be able to make it print via | the | | base machine? | | | | Yet it is broke in a sense if it won't print, especially when the | machine it's | | connected to is the machine it doesn't print from. Again, that falls back | to my | | last statement of where the drivers are installed. If the drivers are | installed | | on all networked machines and the printer only fails on one machine, the | drivers | | on that machine have a great possibility of being corrupt. | | | | | | I know little about my network. I'm not sure about the | layout/architecture in | | the base machine. All I'm aware of is {1} a NIC and a cable to the | modem and | | (2) the cable to the printer. | | | | Is there no router involved? I did see questions about one although a | router | | shouldn't have any effect. | | The USB cable from the printer is connected directly to the 98SE | machine, | | correct? | | | | | | What could be going wrong in the base machine with the combining of all | three | | machines and the distribution to two of the machines, but not to the | third. | | | | Has it ever printed to the host machine? If yes, driver corruption. If | no, | | possibly USB version/drivers not compatible with mobo, improper USB | setting in | | the BIOS and/or improper configuration on the host. | | | | Will it print on the host if it's not shared? | | | | | | Thanks again. | | | | That is, | | | | | | -- | | | | | | Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience } | | Conflicts start where information lacks. | | http://basconotw.mvps.org/ | | | | Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm | | How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 | | | | | | |
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Having strange local network printing problem - could use somehelp/ideas
MEB wrote:
Oh forgot, Normc did you unplug {depower} that printer for awhile as I had suggested previously... the failure to print a full test page indicates potential direct printer issues.. MEB & Brian I've been wrongly visualizing the system situation. I was thinking that the base computer was taking care of everything required for printing. But you guys got me thinking: I suspect that the HP driver is installed on all three machines, and one of those drivers is not working, as you've both suggested. I will reinstall tomorrow, either from the CD or from a downloaded update. I'll let you know. |
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