Avira AV weirdness

I have the Avira Anti-Vir-Rescue on a CD, froma download on 3 July
2011. I have been using this since then for occasional full scans of
the 98SE machine. Once the .VDF files are more than 14 days old it
highlights this and suggests downloading later def files, which I have
done on each occasion.

Yesterday I tried again, but after d/l-ing the updates it sat there
(for 52 elapsed seconds) and the announced "ERROR: [No licence found]
...." and halted. I repeated the download but got the same result.

So I went and d/l-ed the current rescue file (263MB) and created a new
CD. No joy, wouldn't boot. Eventually I decided to run the July
version with the old def files, ignoring the update prompt. Ran
properly.

Is anyone else using this product as an AV scanner, and if so have you
seen this type of behaviour?

who where wrote:

Is anyone else using this product as an AV scanner, and if so have
you seen this type of behaviour?

Do you need a license to use it?

I'm downloading the Oct 4 version right now to try it, but I'd be ****ed
if I need to hunt down some key-gen or serial.

On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:46:16 -0400, 98 Guy wrote:

who where wrote:

Is anyone else using this product as an AV scanner, and if so have
you seen this type of behaviour?

Do you need a license to use it?

The inference on the website - that it is free for personal use -
would indicate no. The July version never mentioned one, until this
last attempt with updated data files. The Oct one I d/l-ed won't boot
for some reason which I am still trying to resolve.

I'm downloading the Oct 4 version right now to try it, but I'd be ****ed
if I need to hunt down some key-gen or serial.

Likewise.

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 10:48:44 +0100, who where wrote:

On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:46:16 -0400, 98 Guy wrote:

who where wrote:

Is anyone else using this product as an AV scanner, and if so have
you seen this type of behaviour?

Do you need a license to use it?

The inference on the website - that it is free for personal use -
would indicate no. The July version never mentioned one, until this
last attempt with updated data files. The Oct one I d/l-ed won't boot
for some reason which I am still trying to resolve.


The download (or at least an older version) includes a license file which
it checks 1) exists and 2) hasn't expired. I ran into this at version 5?
when they forced me to upgrade - the license had expired and wouldn't
allow downloading of newer signatures. IIRC the newer version was way
slower and the installer wanted WXP.


I'm downloading the Oct 4 version right now to try it, but I'd be ****ed
if I need to hunt down some key-gen or serial.

Likewise.


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"Esra Sdrawkcab" wrote in newsp.v2zgsdp0hswpfo@dell3100:

The inference on the website - that it is free for personal use -
would indicate no. The July version never mentioned one, until this
last attempt with updated data files. The Oct one I d/l-ed won't boot
for some reason which I am still trying to resolve.


The download (or at least an older version) includes a license file which
it checks 1) exists and 2) hasn't expired. I ran into this at version 5?
when they forced me to upgrade - the license had expired and wouldn't
allow downloading of newer signatures. IIRC the newer version was way
slower and the installer wanted WXP.


A lot of free software might still use a license system, as there may still
be conditions of use. One way to clear confusions with versions is to install
the version originally installed, if possible, then uninstall it, and repeat
with any other version you know you tried, earliest first. This may clean up
entries that screw with later versions. Complexity greater than even the
original coder knew or intended can develop, so sometimes it pays to build a
clean install of your OS and chosen (known good) programs, and make an image
of the OS and any seperate program partitions involved, to save yourself from
repeated clean OS installs. It doesn't matter how complex this seems, it's
NEVER harder to do than untangling knots that the original programmer cannot
untie, never mind us. If you CAN find a another way, you're lucky. You can
look for one, just don't expect to find it unless you love trawling internet
forums and obscure registry entries, because coders often try HARD to hide
details of license systems, even in stuff they allow free use of...

On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:22:51 +0100, "Esra Sdrawkcab"
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 10:48:44 +0100, who where wrote:

On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:46:16 -0400, 98 Guy wrote:

who where wrote:

Is anyone else using this product as an AV scanner, and if so have
you seen this type of behaviour?

Do you need a license to use it?

The inference on the website - that it is free for personal use -
would indicate no. The July version never mentioned one, until this
last attempt with updated data files. The Oct one I d/l-ed won't boot
for some reason which I am still trying to resolve.


The download (or at least an older version) includes a license file which
it checks 1) exists and 2) hasn't expired. I ran into this at version 5?
when they forced me to upgrade - the license had expired and wouldn't
allow downloading of newer signatures. IIRC the newer version was way
slower and the installer wanted WXP.

There is no sign of any "licence" file on the CD created by the July
2011 downloaded .exe

Are you referring to the AV utility or the Rescue utility? Different
beasts entirely.

On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 02:27:54 +0100, who where wrote:

On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:22:51 +0100, "Esra Sdrawkcab"
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 10:48:44 +0100, who where wrote:

On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:46:16 -0400, 98 Guy wrote:

who where wrote:

Is anyone else using this product as an AV scanner, and if so have
you seen this type of behaviour?

Do you need a license to use it?

The inference on the website - that it is free for personal use -
would indicate no. The July version never mentioned one, until this
last attempt with updated data files. The Oct one I d/l-ed won't boot
for some reason which I am still trying to resolve.


The download (or at least an older version) includes a license file
which
it checks 1) exists and 2) hasn't expired. I ran into this at version 5?
when they forced me to upgrade - the license had expired and wouldn't
allow downloading of newer signatures. IIRC the newer version was way
slower and the installer wanted WXP.

There is no sign of any "licence" file on the CD created by the July
2011 downloaded .exe

This was some years ago on an older version. AV.

Are you referring to the AV utility or the Rescue utility? Different
beasts entirely.


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who where wrote:

"Esra Sdrawkcab" wrote:

who where wrote:

98 Guy wrote:

who where wrote:

Is anyone else using this product as an AV scanner,
and if so have you seen this type of behaviour?

Do you need a license to use it?

The inference on the website - that it is free for
personal use - would indicate no. The July version never
mentioned one, until this last attempt with updated data
files. The Oct one I d/l-ed won't boot for some reason
which I am still trying to resolve.

The download (or at least an older version) includes a
license file which it checks 1) exists and 2) hasn't
expired. I ran into this at version 5? when they forced me
to upgrade - the license had expired and wouldn't allow
downloading of newer signatures. IIRC the newer version was
way slower and the installer wanted WXP.

There is no sign of any "licence" file on the CD created by
the July 2011 downloaded .exe

Are you referring to the AV utility or the Rescue utility?
Different beasts entirely.


( Although i think it is strange that the license from a DL that
was current this summer has already expired. )

The AntiVir "License Key file" is called [hbedv.key]. (Actually
it appears to be the "H+BEDV Products License Key File".) If such
a file is present on the CD you burned, you may see if it works
by exchange it with a DL of a current [hbedv.key] file (by
(re)writing a new modded CD with it in the old ones place).

Avira links to this file on one of their pages somewhere, where
it also says for how long it is valid, but here is the direct-link:
http://dlce.antivir.com/down/windows/hbedv.key


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On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 16:48:44 +0200, Etal
wrote:

who where wrote:

"Esra Sdrawkcab" wrote:

who where wrote:

98 Guy wrote:

who where wrote:

Is anyone else using this product as an AV scanner,
and if so have you seen this type of behaviour?

Do you need a license to use it?

The inference on the website - that it is free for
personal use - would indicate no. The July version never
mentioned one, until this last attempt with updated data
files. The Oct one I d/l-ed won't boot for some reason
which I am still trying to resolve.

The download (or at least an older version) includes a
license file which it checks 1) exists and 2) hasn't
expired. I ran into this at version 5? when they forced me
to upgrade - the license had expired and wouldn't allow
downloading of newer signatures. IIRC the newer version was
way slower and the installer wanted WXP.

There is no sign of any "licence" file on the CD created by
the July 2011 downloaded .exe

Are you referring to the AV utility or the Rescue utility?
Different beasts entirely.


( Although i think it is strange that the license from a DL that
was current this summer has already expired. )

In fact I had considered that possibility, in that the original d/l
date was 93 days prior to the behaviour reported. 90-day licence???

The AntiVir "License Key file" is called [hbedv.key]. (Actually
it appears to be the "H+BEDV Products License Key File".) If such
a file is present on the CD you burned, you may see if it works
by exchange it with a DL of a current [hbedv.key] file (by
(re)writing a new modded CD with it in the old ones place).

Avira links to this file on one of their pages somewhere, where
it also says for how long it is valid, but here is the direct-link:
http://dlce.antivir.com/down/windows/hbedv.key

There is no *.key file on the July CD. In my O/P I was referring to
the Rescue Disk/system, NOT their general A/V product.

In past time-limited trialware etc, I have often changed the system
date to remain within the validity period. Since the Avira Rescue
Disk reports the definition files as "over 14 days, consider updating"
I may just shift the sysdate back to a month after the July download
and try again. The full scan process takes 2 hours on this machine,
so I'll look for an opportunity.

who where wrote:

Etal wrote:



The AntiVir "License Key file" is called [hbedv.key].
(Actually it appears to be the "H+BEDV Products License Key
File".) If such a file is present on the CD you burned,



There is no *.key file on the July CD.


In that case, my suggestion was useless.


There is no *.key file on the July CD. In my O/P I was
referring to the Rescue Disk/system, NOT their general A/V
product.

But OTOH, your subject-line suggests ...

Anyway, as the name "H+BEDV Products License Key" suggests, it is
probably used for several/many software from Avira. (The entity
that developed AntiVir was known as "H+BEDV /something/ " before
now being Avira.)

Well, here's hoping the next update of their Rescue-CD, downloads
& burns to a boatable state for you.


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