What controls HOW RAPIDLY my computer shuts down?

I have a 750 MHz AMD, 256 MB RAM home constructed 'clone'.

It takes about 1-2 minutes before it shuts down when
commanded to do so via START|shutdown.

My son has a 1.2 GHz AMD 'clone' with 512 MB RAM and it
shuts down in about 5 seconds !

What would make my computer so darned slow to shut down?

What is it doing or waiting for? I close my Modem down
before 'shutdown'....

In the System Tray I generally have Seti-at-Home running as
a screensaver, RAM-Page running to tell me the RAM status, a
display properties Icon, AVG Anti-Virus, and the Volume Control.

WAF...
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The amount and type of programs running in the background would have an
effect. Also, having spy and adware running can be a player. I would do
this as general maintenance to see what effect it has:

Do a full scan of the drive with an up to date anti virus program followed
by a spyware hunt.

Spyware/scumware/adware are causing numerous system problems. I recommend
you download and use the following programs and consider removing everything
these programs identify. Be aware that there are frequent updates to these
programs and you need to check for them before every use.

AdAwa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

CWShredder: http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html (download
link near the bottom)

Spybot: http://www.safer-networking.org/
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My personal rule of thumb is if a program is not used during every computer
session, I do not allow it to start at boot. To cut back on the number of
programs starting at boot, check the programs themselves for an option not
to load. You might have to double click an icon in the tray (others might
require a right click) and then look for preferences or options. If you
cannot find an option, look for the program in the following start up points
and remove the reference to it:

Start up folder on the start menu, the load= and run= lines in the win.ini
and these registry run keys (use regedit.exe):

1. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Run

2. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Run

3. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunOnce

4. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\RunOnce

5. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\ RunServices

6. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
RunServicesOnce

7. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
RunOnce\Setup

If poking around in the registry is not for you, there is a freeware program
that makes this process a lot easier to manage: Startup Manager,
http://home.ptd.net/~don5408/toolbox/startupcpl/

You can use msconfig.exe, startup tab, to disable programs; however, by
doing so, you may lessen its value as a troubleshooting tool. There might
be some double entries in msconfig--leave those for your AntiVirus program
and load power profile alone as they are required. If you disable an entry
in msconfig or remove it from the start up point and the program loads again
after a reboot, that is an indication that you missed an option on the
program itself. If you don't know what an entry is, check he
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_index.htm

--
Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

"*** Doctor Bill ***" wrote in message
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I have a 750 MHz AMD, 256 MB RAM home constructed 'clone'.

It takes about 1-2 minutes before it shuts down when
commanded to do so via START|shutdown.

My son has a 1.2 GHz AMD 'clone' with 512 MB RAM and it
shuts down in about 5 seconds !

What would make my computer so darned slow to shut down?

What is it doing or waiting for? I close my Modem down
before 'shutdown'....

In the System Tray I generally have Seti-at-Home running as
a screensaver, RAM-Page running to tell me the RAM status, a
display properties Icon, AVG Anti-Virus, and the Volume Control.

WAF...
--
"What sort of a day was it?
A day like all days, filled with those events
that alter and illuminate our time..."
'You Are There'...a weekly, live TV show (1953-1957)

...or - any day you wake up is a GOOD day!



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Do you have Maintenace Wizard running and Scheduling
Agent checked in the startup group? You can set,in these,
for the system to do scan disk and/or defrag at shutdown.
Lets say, if you shutdown each day AND if you had defrag
to run at shutdown it would take about only 5 min. to run.
If defrag was done that often.
Just a thought.
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I have a 750 MHz AMD, 256 MB RAM home constructed 'clone'.

It takes about 1-2 minutes before it shuts down when
commanded to do so via START|shutdown.

My son has a 1.2 GHz AMD 'clone' with 512 MB RAM and it
shuts down in about 5 seconds !

What would make my computer so darned slow to shut down?

What is it doing or waiting for? I close my Modem down
before 'shutdown'....

In the System Tray I generally have Seti-at-Home running
as
a screensaver, RAM-Page running to tell me the RAM
status, a
display properties Icon, AVG Anti-Virus, and the Volume
Control.

WAF...
--
"What sort of a day was it?
A day like all days, filled with those events
that alter and illuminate our time..."
'You Are There'...a weekly, live TV show (1953-1957)

...or - any day you wake up is a GOOD day!



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Just my thoughts. My PC has same symptoms, but vary from 1 minute to about
5 seconds. It seems to depends on how long the PC has been on, what I've
run during that time, memory consumption, swapfile usage, whether I've
applied updated software or not including windows updates in that session.
Example of what I may run concurrently or alone or just once alone is
audio/video rendering, DVD encoding and burning, imaging entire partitions
within windows environment, internet research/browsing, simple email writing
in text format with send/receive called. Recently dropped cable service.
Telco modem use has not changed these symptoms. Once every two or three
weeks, shutdown just hangs at shutdown screen. Recovery is always
uneventful.

Background running ZA Pro, AdSubtract Pro, SpySubtract, PestPatrol, NAV2004,
ATI Config, Turtle Beach Config, Diskeeper, INCD, typical HP printer
background stuff, mdm, csinject (CleanSweep). This does not include all
dlls and so forth. Two bug/pest finders say PC is clean as well as NAV.
Have gone over registry with CleanSweep, removing all suggested items to
remove.
Have observed that installing windows 98SE standalone without any
network/internet, shutdown was almost instantaneous. After doing the
firewall, internet, and AV; time increased to 5-20 seconds for shutdown.
Added local network, added more max time for shutdown to the 45 second time
frame. Size of the registry increased dramatically after adding all this.
Adding app software slowly increased the max shutdown time, and bloated the
registry even more.
But, have seen PCs running standalone slowly get to a point that shutdown
time was becoming intolerable as well and causing user consternation.
Usually because the user installed and deinstalled software on a regular
basis. "Stagnant" PCs seldom see this increased shutdown time. But, whose
PC is stagnant?
So, we search and clean possible culprits including bugs, bloated registry
with unneeded entries, uninstall software we don't need or use, update
leaving garbage on the hard drive and the registry setting off another
cleaning, et al.
Then we fight the urge to do a clean install (even though it will solve the
problem impromptu), and clean and maintain. Some may update with a newer OS
and overwrite some settings, but some garbage remains. And the cycle begins
again, with more to maintain and clean. So, the answer is obvious to break
this cycle. Yet, you will be advised otherwise. Just my thoughts.
"*** Doctor Bill ***" wrote in message
...
I have a 750 MHz AMD, 256 MB RAM home constructed 'clone'.

It takes about 1-2 minutes before it shuts down when
commanded to do so via START|shutdown.

My son has a 1.2 GHz AMD 'clone' with 512 MB RAM and it
shuts down in about 5 seconds !

What would make my computer so darned slow to shut down?

What is it doing or waiting for? I close my Modem down
before 'shutdown'....

In the System Tray I generally have Seti-at-Home running as
a screensaver, RAM-Page running to tell me the RAM status, a
display properties Icon, AVG Anti-Virus, and the Volume Control.

WAF...
--
"What sort of a day was it?
A day like all days, filled with those events
that alter and illuminate our time..."
'You Are There'...a weekly, live TV show (1953-1957)

...or - any day you wake up is a GOOD day!



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