A year yippeeeeeeeee

ROFL!!!! You came out of hiding with this gem and I was on the floor!!!

And I can't get my old WinME to work........no icons and CAD says
"explorer.exe" isn't there, or found, or some such. Must fire it up
again and see.

Had my XP machine over to Willy's for a tuneup (I blew out part of the
sound software somehow.....colour me blonde) and he told me to just
reinstall ME over top. NO, NO, I shrieked!! I will have to remove WMP
and something else first. We are still arguing that one. Now I am not
sure who is right, lol. Probably me, but that is my feminist
upbringing, lol.

XX Figgs (needles in her arm.....HAH.....maybe her eyes??)

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Me I like my XP and can't wait to get my hands on Vista g

In the meantime grab yourself a packet of needles and then slowly
stick each one in your arm and then waggle it around. This will get
you prepared for when you get to install Vista.
--
Mike Maltby




Joan Archer wrote:

That was a very interesting read Shane, I know someone who likes her
WinME and that's Kelly, she has told me that she doesn't like XP but
much prefers to run ME and is happy to do so.
Me I like my XP and can't wait to get my hands on Vista g don't
know
when that will be though g perhaps it's just me but I love gadgets
and running the latest, even though I don't and can't afford to have
the latest.
I was thinking it's about time I gave you a ring again, so expect to
hear from me in the next few days g

I'm just off to visit my dad again - though as ever not for long what with
Rosie requiring doing for. Meanwhile I think you've shown yourself to be a
total ingrate! So you've stayed clean a year now, eh? I happen to know those
sheep were with you at all times, they never left your side! Do they get a
mention? They must feel so chilled now it's a good job they have those wooly
jumpers!

Actually I believe they are the wooly jumpers...I saw one almost jump the
side of Meldon Reservoir once...like it thought all those millions of
gallons of water would be a damn good place to hide from the people.




Shane




Joan Archer wrote:
That was a very interesting read Shane, I know someone who likes her
WinME and that's Kelly, she has told me that she doesn't like XP but
much prefers to run ME and is happy to do so.
Me I like my XP and can't wait to get my hands on Vista g don't know
when that will be though g perhaps it's just me but I love gadgets
and running the latest, even though I don't and can't afford to have
the latest.
I was thinking it's about time I gave you a ring again, so expect to
hear from me in the next few days g
Joan


Shane wrote:

What would you want with a Win ME cd, Harry? I mean, not that if you
have a deserving home for one I wouldn't be happy to send it that
way. The companion would no doubt be useful seeing as it has just
about every post-Security Update CD update on it. The Win ME one
snip

I already asked if you (or yours) need a DVD-ROM or the like, didn't I? Does
Kelly need anything - spare drive for instance? Or full collection of
updates? I think I ought to send you one of my 'Windows ME Bootable Repair'
cds. The original even used to run any of half a dozen AV scanners
installed, in Real Mode. But much has changed now - eg the name of the AVG
folder no longer refers to '6' but to '7', so no longer runs. But that was
the level of functionality it was designed for and you can still run the DOS
versions of Drive Image, Partition and Boot Magic. The very first ran Ghost
too, but I dropped that as superfluous - I mean, we all know how unpopular
fluoride in the water is in some quarters! It runs scandisk, scanreg, fdisk,
Norton Disk Doctor (a good Norton tool!). AIDA16, MSD, MSDOS Help. Editbini
(though it hangs now on this large drive machine), ReadNTFS (which still
works). It can run DOSShell (which has never given me any LFN issues). It
has a boot disk maker that can make one for 95, 98 or ME (and MSDOS 6.22 -
only it doesn't make that one bootable!). And it can do either a Repair or a
Clean Win ME installation - though since it has my files it would install an
OEM-as-Retail copy - functionally the same but not perhaps desirable. I did
make it remove WMP9 for a Repair Install and provided IEradicator for
dealing with IE6.0.

I have 1 and possibly 2 to give away. One can install US or Canadian
(English or French) keyboard settings. I'm sure there was some other
English-speaking nationality I included too.

These CDs have been a godsend to me (except that I made them, not God. The
Moocher!) over the years.

However, my sister's CD drive has been crap for a long time and the CD won't
boot - so they're not universally empowering.

Oh yeah, the one I really liked? The tour de force? Hit one key and
system.ini is edited to run MSCONFIG (or maybe I changed that to System
Restore direct - long time since I looked). It backs up the original
system.ini, edits it, then reboots the computer. Of course, if you run SR,
it'll replace system.ini anyway - but if you decide not to, boot the CD
again, hit another key and it restores the backup. This, I tested many times
to make certain it always worked, and to uncover any unforeseen
circumstances in which things might not go as expected. I believe I made it
failsafe. For instance if the backup has already been made, it won't make
another and overwrite the first.


Shane


Shane wrote:
I'm just off to visit my dad again - though as ever not for long what
with Rosie requiring doing for. Meanwhile I think you've shown
yourself to be a total ingrate! So you've stayed clean a year now,
eh? I happen to know those sheep were with you at all times, they
never left your side! Do they get a mention? They must feel so
chilled now it's a good job they have those wooly jumpers!

Actually I believe they are the wooly jumpers...I saw one almost jump
the side of Meldon Reservoir once...like it thought all those
millions of gallons of water would be a damn good place to hide from
the people.



Shane




Joan Archer wrote:
That was a very interesting read Shane, I know someone who likes her
WinME and that's Kelly, she has told me that she doesn't like XP but
much prefers to run ME and is happy to do so.
Me I like my XP and can't wait to get my hands on Vista g don't
know when that will be though g perhaps it's just me but I love
gadgets and running the latest, even though I don't and can't afford
to have the latest.
I was thinking it's about time I gave you a ring again, so expect to
hear from me in the next few days g
Joan


Shane wrote:

What would you want with a Win ME cd, Harry? I mean, not that if you
have a deserving home for one I wouldn't be happy to send it that
way. The companion would no doubt be useful seeing as it has just
about every post-Security Update CD update on it. The Win ME one
snip

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Me I like my XP and can't wait to get my hands on Vista g

In the meantime grab yourself a packet of needles and then slowly stick
each one in your arm and then waggle it around. This will get you
prepared for when you get to install Vista.
--
Mike Maltby


I hear Vista is supposed to be the greatest show on Earth... within the next
year or two. Right now they say the big issue is a lot of hardware does not
have proper drivers for it.

I've heard of a few new features in Vista, but so far nothing worth
upgrading for, so I recommend sticking with XP for awhile.

I still run WinME at home because I can't afford to upgrade right now, but I
run XP Pro (Classic theme) at work, and I would rather have XP at home.
I need to upgrade my home PC as soon as I can afford it because it has
issues. Right now, it hangs on startup. If I reboot countless times in
normal or safe modes, it hangs. If I enter BIOS on a reboot, select F6 or
F7 for defaults, save and exit, it loads on the next attempt or two. Other
than taking 5 minutes to boot up, it works fine. I can't figure any way to
fix the hanging on startup. It can't be trying to run something because it
doesn't boot in safe mode either. I checked the startup folder and startup
registry keys and didn't see anything odd. I think it needs a BIOS upgrade
but what I could find to download for that I couldn't find any way to
install.

Anyhow, if you buy a new packaged system right now, you'll likely get stuck
with Vista. I'm sure you can build your own without an OS and find a copy
of XP on the web cheaper. I think XP Upgrade still goes for around $100,
while Vista UPGRADE is over $200?

Hope I didn't wake you up, Shane.
Thanks for that "picturesque" comment.
Am I to undertand you have a taker for your CD?
That would be fine with me, only if you didn't, I would like to reserve "my
seat". I like WinME and just in case my 'good ole faithful' should give out
on me, I'd have a replacement. By now I'm fairly familiar with most of the
little details of ME.
My other option now is Linux (Ubuntu). The drive to harbour it is ready to
be installed (an 80GB WD HDD).
That will avail me your preferred FF and hopefully delight me.
We shall see......
Meanwhile you have my best in every respect, as to what the future holds in
store for you and hopefully it doesn't exclude us here alltogether.
Heers,

Harry.


"Shane" wrote in message
...
webster72n wrote:
"Shane" wrote in message
...
webster72n wrote:
"George Gee" wrote in message
...
Gratters Joan!
Keep up the good work.
I quit Mother's Day 2001, I sometimes have nightmares that I
started again

I quit over 20 years ago and once in a great while I have dreams of
smoking again. When I wake up, it seems so real at first. A nasty
habit.
The part I don't understand is, why this fuss over the *smoking*,
when it is much, much more detrimental to our health, what they are
doing with our food supply all across the board. Everyone can figure
out for themselves the details of the countless methods of food
poisoning in our daily lives, practiced by the food companies and
sanctioned by the FDA.
The thing is, in most cases it doesn't kill you instantly, but
slowly over time or, to be sure, it makes you sick and ready for the
hospital.
Why is the public ignoring this, while giving all the attention to
*smoking*, which by btw is entirely voluntary, contrary to *eating*.



Only in a sense, Harry. It's an addiction. That more or less boils
down to you don't have a choice. You do have the choice to start but
as most do as children, it's a deluded choice. Because of the
neurotransmitter level changes Nicotine is probably harder to quit
than heroin or cocaine. I certainly never found anything like as
difficult to quit.

I myself had a dream last night - as I sometimes do, of flying in a
jet airliner.

This was a wide-bodied one. After maybe half an hour - so before
we'd left UK airspace - the aircraft decelerated so much that it
felt like it had stopped - but as we didn't plummet, presumably it
had just decelerated such as when preparing to land. Instead of
doing 400kts we were doing, say, 250. However I'd have expected to
feel some sensation of dropping, of gravity decreasing. Next thing I
know we land! What's more I look out the window and we're on a road!
I see a sign for Lasham - an airport, once the base of Dan Air,
premier Comet operators in the latter days and used for repainting
and servicing the likes of Boeings and MDs now. Presumably the crew
had tried to reach the nearest runway but not made it.

Except that the lack of feeling of losing altitude might mean we
never actually took off!

We should use more wide-body jets on the roads. I mean, talk about
car pooling!

I really ought to be given a Ministry.

Question is, what kind?
Personally I think the title of 'Propaganda Minister' would be
appropriate. In a way we all think of ourselves as some kind of
'minister', don't we? What were you saying about a 'homeless' WinME
CD?
In case you shouldn't find any other takers, I might be the one.
For awhile I thought you had given up 'surfing'.
Glad to see you back here and in good spirits.


What would you want with a Win ME cd, Harry? I mean, not that if you have
a
deserving home for one I wouldn't be happy to send it that way. The
companion would no doubt be useful seeing as it has just about every
post-Security Update CD update on it. The Win ME one though is the
original
burning-the-contents-of-the-CABS-folder-to-CD and constitutes imo the 1
backup you're granted permission to make, though I don't doubt they could
quibble over the small print. It *was* an OEM version, tied to the BIOS.
*Now* it'll install on any machine that can run Win ME, the installation
is
effectively 'retail', ie you get full choice - and it installs as per
retail
CDs to the Install folder, not to CABS (minor detail but a telling one).
But
the point, really - especially as 99% of those running Win ME could
probably
burn a similar CD - is the Product key, which makes it 'non-pirate'.

Incidentally, and I still - 6 years on - don't know how much this plays a
part in the kind of installation that subsequently runs, the disc root
Setup.exe file, missing from the OEM cd, I replaced with one from my 98SE
cd. It required hex editing - though basically just to replace the string
'98 Second Edition' with 'Millennium Edition' wherever it appears, along
with the requisite no. of spaces to make up the bytes - before it would
run.
I would be quite happy to supply that file. You copy the contents of the
CABS folder renamed 'WINME', to CD, having deleted MSBATCH.INF if it
exists
and all files with 'OEM' in their name. You put the edited 'Setup.exe' in
the root (plus other files/folders, if desired, as found in the retail
product). That's how I made a 'retail' copy from an OEM WINME disc
containing an image.

To what extent I'm back, Harry, I don't know. I've been investigating a
new
box - doing what I do, installing and reinstalling and finding out what's
what, a kind of masochistic fun, ie I do this because I get obsessed, not
because I can't get enough of it! I've room for 2 more HDDs inside but
only
cabling for one 2nd SATA! So I have a 40G ATAPI HDD going to waste (as
well
as the older, slower 30G I never did plan on redeploying). Hard to go from
where an 850 Athlon was pretty hot to where it's so puny I might as well
dump it!

That's what I'm going through now - 'moving on'. In a sense - what with
Moore's Law - home computing necessitates permanently 'moving on' - though
it was hard enough ditching the various copies of such as 16-bit Win 95,
Win
95SR2, NT3.10 etc etc. I suppose 'moving on' proceeds in discrete jumps,
like quanta, as one's resistance is overcome, then born anew as one begins
to feel at home with the next operating system, the next technological
revolution.

Within this last year I ditched my CDs containing all Win 98 updates - I
still have Win 98 itself as I used it as qualifying media for the XP Home
Upgrade (which the Win ME CD does not fulfill), but that'll be going with
the copy of XP Home I'll be putting on my Dad's computer. I'm sure you
know - I'm sure we all know - how difficult it is to give this stuff up!
Win
98! There are people who will never be able to relinquish that one. Well,
we
know what Freud called it!

I do still have one copy of NT4.0 which I keep because I designed it to
(mostly) auto-update from setup to end-of-support and contains batches reg
files and scripts I put a lot of work into and can't bring myself to
ditch -
indeed I think to do so would be short-sighted! Likewise I have three
copies
of the WinME files included in a special CD I made (no updates, albeit I
retain the original Security Update CD - only contrary to what I said on
my
webpage 3 years ago there have been *many* updates since!). This too
contains many batches I wrote - of which the latter-day 'Ultimate Boot CD'
is essentially the same thing, though I bet mine's more amusing! I have to
keep at least one of those - they work for any FAT/FAT32 installation and
are useful tools and the fact they have an option to install Windows
Millennium Edition is irrelevent, because I think I have now reached the
unfamiliar stage at which I will never install or otherwise run any
version
of Windows 9x, not for myself, not ever again!

I've been through reinstalling old OSes for nostalgia's sake and have come
to see it as a totally pointless exercise. I've done it. Been there. It
was
so-so.

9x is old. Apart from being unable to afford something more recent, I
cannot
see any good reason to continue to run Win ME. I think ME is much better
than 98SE - which was marginally better than 98, which was better than
95OS2
etc etc. But XP - set up right (such as with Classic Start Menu, not
childlike 'XP Style') you can make look so much like ME the only thing
that
gives it away is that it is that much more stable!

Taking the Win ME 'Program Files\Plus!' folder and putting it in XP, and
thereby installing the Desktop Themes available in ME, PC Mag's Display
Set
also works! Then you can, as in 9x, change the colour of the window
borders,
Light, Shade etc. Increase all text sizes, increase systray icon size,
that
sort of thing. T-Clock X displays properly in XP using Classic schemes.

NTFS zealots used to - no doubt still do - characterise XP on NTFS as much
more secure. Well in the malware sense that is absurd! It is high time XP
SP3 was released! There are so many security patches for it - so many post
SP2! To argue that it's more secure is to parrot the party line which
fails
to take the real world into account - it's just echoing advertising.

In the sense of security as a consequence of increased stability - well,
yes. But the zealots imply that with 9x you were losing your files left
right and centre, which is ludicrous. Probably the people who put Symantec
at the top of the AV vendor's tree lost a lot of files - they probably use
RAM defraggers too! The bunch of idiots! 9x almost never turns turtle -
but
it does crash quite a lot. Like it walks into lampposts and trees. There
are
plenty of BSODs. XP is far better in that you don't find that the latest
program you installed for the sake of productivity is causing the system
to
crash several times a day and continues to even after you've uninstalled
it!
Not that *that* has anything to do with the kind of file system in use.

Of course hard drive size now dictates that one uses NTFS and that's just
about that - though I have partitioned the big drive into sizes small
enough
for FAT32 to use them and, while the main installation is on NTFS, at the
front of the disk I have a 6G FAT32 volume containing XP as a Maintenance
Operating System.

I only really found out how much one could make XP look like 9x because my
father couldn't get on with XP because it looked so different, so I looked
into it! The 'having to activate' objection, while valid, is not enough to
justify staying with 9x. You almost certainly only need to activate XP
once,
and it doesn't take very long at all and if you're sensible enough to make
proper backups, that's it, all done and dusted. It is a valid argument but
the inconvenience is not sufficient to justify staying with 9x, is all I'm
saying. But shortage of scratch most certainly is and I would be pleased
to
give my Win ME license to someone who will really benefit!

For me, 9x is a bygone era. And unlike Mike and, I believe, Mow, and no
doubt others (I seem to recall Noel did it too) I won't be running any
virtual drives in order to continue to support 9x users. Nor do I see any
point supporting 9x without in some way continuing to run it - it is
alarming how quickly one forgets! You do more harm than good when you
repeatedly give wrong advice. So I doubt I'll be lingering here. I came
back
here because I want to give my copy of Win ME to someone who'll appreciate
it and this ought to be a good source of suggestions.

I don't want to bin the monitor either - though I won't be putting that in
an envelope! But if one must have a CRT monitor, it's a pretty good one!
Guess I best look into someone local to take that off my hands.

Excuse the rambling. I'm so tired I don't know what I'm saying.

Shane

"webster72n" wrote in message
...

Hope I didn't wake you up, Shane.
Thanks for that "picturesque" comment.
Am I to undertand you have a taker for your CD?
That would be fine with me, only if you didn't, I would like to reserve
"my
seat". I like WinME and just in case my 'good ole faithful' should give
out
on me, I'd have a replacement. By now I'm fairly familiar with most of the
little details of ME.
My other option now is Linux (Ubuntu). The drive to harbour it is ready to
be installed (an 80GB WD HDD).
That will avail me your preferred FF and hopefully delight me.
We shall see......
Meanwhile you have my best in every respect, as to what the future holds
in
store for you and hopefully it doesn't exclude us here alltogether.

Cheers, of course,

Harry.


"Shane" wrote in message
...
webster72n wrote:
"Shane" wrote in message
...
webster72n wrote:
"George Gee" wrote in message
...
Gratters Joan!
Keep up the good work.
I quit Mother's Day 2001, I sometimes have nightmares that I
started again

I quit over 20 years ago and once in a great while I have dreams of
smoking again. When I wake up, it seems so real at first. A nasty
habit.
The part I don't understand is, why this fuss over the *smoking*,
when it is much, much more detrimental to our health, what they are
doing with our food supply all across the board. Everyone can figure
out for themselves the details of the countless methods of food
poisoning in our daily lives, practiced by the food companies and
sanctioned by the FDA.
The thing is, in most cases it doesn't kill you instantly, but
slowly over time or, to be sure, it makes you sick and ready for the
hospital.
Why is the public ignoring this, while giving all the attention to
*smoking*, which by btw is entirely voluntary, contrary to *eating*.



Only in a sense, Harry. It's an addiction. That more or less boils
down to you don't have a choice. You do have the choice to start but
as most do as children, it's a deluded choice. Because of the
neurotransmitter level changes Nicotine is probably harder to quit
than heroin or cocaine. I certainly never found anything like as
difficult to quit.

I myself had a dream last night - as I sometimes do, of flying in a
jet airliner.

This was a wide-bodied one. After maybe half an hour - so before
we'd left UK airspace - the aircraft decelerated so much that it
felt like it had stopped - but as we didn't plummet, presumably it
had just decelerated such as when preparing to land. Instead of
doing 400kts we were doing, say, 250. However I'd have expected to
feel some sensation of dropping, of gravity decreasing. Next thing I
know we land! What's more I look out the window and we're on a road!
I see a sign for Lasham - an airport, once the base of Dan Air,
premier Comet operators in the latter days and used for repainting
and servicing the likes of Boeings and MDs now. Presumably the crew
had tried to reach the nearest runway but not made it.

Except that the lack of feeling of losing altitude might mean we
never actually took off!

We should use more wide-body jets on the roads. I mean, talk about
car pooling!

I really ought to be given a Ministry.

Question is, what kind?
Personally I think the title of 'Propaganda Minister' would be
appropriate. In a way we all think of ourselves as some kind of
'minister', don't we? What were you saying about a 'homeless' WinME
CD?
In case you shouldn't find any other takers, I might be the one.
For awhile I thought you had given up 'surfing'.
Glad to see you back here and in good spirits.


What would you want with a Win ME cd, Harry? I mean, not that if you
have
a
deserving home for one I wouldn't be happy to send it that way. The
companion would no doubt be useful seeing as it has just about every
post-Security Update CD update on it. The Win ME one though is the
original
burning-the-contents-of-the-CABS-folder-to-CD and constitutes imo the 1
backup you're granted permission to make, though I don't doubt they
could
quibble over the small print. It *was* an OEM version, tied to the BIOS.
*Now* it'll install on any machine that can run Win ME, the installation
is
effectively 'retail', ie you get full choice - and it installs as per
retail
CDs to the Install folder, not to CABS (minor detail but a telling one).
But
the point, really - especially as 99% of those running Win ME could
probably
burn a similar CD - is the Product key, which makes it 'non-pirate'.

Incidentally, and I still - 6 years on - don't know how much this plays
a
part in the kind of installation that subsequently runs, the disc root
Setup.exe file, missing from the OEM cd, I replaced with one from my
98SE
cd. It required hex editing - though basically just to replace the
string
'98 Second Edition' with 'Millennium Edition' wherever it appears, along
with the requisite no. of spaces to make up the bytes - before it would
run.
I would be quite happy to supply that file. You copy the contents of the
CABS folder renamed 'WINME', to CD, having deleted MSBATCH.INF if it
exists
and all files with 'OEM' in their name. You put the edited 'Setup.exe'
in
the root (plus other files/folders, if desired, as found in the retail
product). That's how I made a 'retail' copy from an OEM WINME disc
containing an image.

To what extent I'm back, Harry, I don't know. I've been investigating a
new
box - doing what I do, installing and reinstalling and finding out
what's
what, a kind of masochistic fun, ie I do this because I get obsessed,
not
because I can't get enough of it! I've room for 2 more HDDs inside but
only
cabling for one 2nd SATA! So I have a 40G ATAPI HDD going to waste (as
well
as the older, slower 30G I never did plan on redeploying). Hard to go
from
where an 850 Athlon was pretty hot to where it's so puny I might as
well
dump it!

That's what I'm going through now - 'moving on'. In a sense - what with
Moore's Law - home computing necessitates permanently 'moving on' -
though
it was hard enough ditching the various copies of such as 16-bit Win 95,
Win
95SR2, NT3.10 etc etc. I suppose 'moving on' proceeds in discrete jumps,
like quanta, as one's resistance is overcome, then born anew as one
begins
to feel at home with the next operating system, the next technological
revolution.

Within this last year I ditched my CDs containing all Win 98 updates - I
still have Win 98 itself as I used it as qualifying media for the XP
Home
Upgrade (which the Win ME CD does not fulfill), but that'll be going
with
the copy of XP Home I'll be putting on my Dad's computer. I'm sure you
know - I'm sure we all know - how difficult it is to give this stuff up!
Win
98! There are people who will never be able to relinquish that one.
Well,
we
know what Freud called it!

I do still have one copy of NT4.0 which I keep because I designed it to
(mostly) auto-update from setup to end-of-support and contains batches
reg
files and scripts I put a lot of work into and can't bring myself to
ditch -
indeed I think to do so would be short-sighted! Likewise I have three
copies
of the WinME files included in a special CD I made (no updates, albeit I
retain the original Security Update CD - only contrary to what I said on
my
webpage 3 years ago there have been *many* updates since!). This too
contains many batches I wrote - of which the latter-day 'Ultimate Boot
CD'
is essentially the same thing, though I bet mine's more amusing! I have
to
keep at least one of those - they work for any FAT/FAT32 installation
and
are useful tools and the fact they have an option to install Windows
Millennium Edition is irrelevent, because I think I have now reached the
unfamiliar stage at which I will never install or otherwise run any
version
of Windows 9x, not for myself, not ever again!

I've been through reinstalling old OSes for nostalgia's sake and have
come
to see it as a totally pointless exercise. I've done it. Been there. It
was
so-so.

9x is old. Apart from being unable to afford something more recent, I
cannot
see any good reason to continue to run Win ME. I think ME is much better
than 98SE - which was marginally better than 98, which was better than
95OS2
etc etc. But XP - set up right (such as with Classic Start Menu, not
childlike 'XP Style') you can make look so much like ME the only thing
that
gives it away is that it is that much more stable!

Taking the Win ME 'Program Files\Plus!' folder and putting it in XP, and
thereby installing the Desktop Themes available in ME, PC Mag's Display
Set
also works! Then you can, as in 9x, change the colour of the window
borders,
Light, Shade etc. Increase all text sizes, increase systray icon size,
that
sort of thing. T-Clock X displays properly in XP using Classic schemes.

NTFS zealots used to - no doubt still do - characterise XP on NTFS as
much
more secure. Well in the malware sense that is absurd! It is high time
XP
SP3 was released! There are so many security patches for it - so many
post
SP2! To argue that it's more secure is to parrot the party line which
fails
to take the real world into account - it's just echoing advertising.

In the sense of security as a consequence of increased stability - well,
yes. But the zealots imply that with 9x you were losing your files left
right and centre, which is ludicrous. Probably the people who put
Symantec
at the top of the AV vendor's tree lost a lot of files - they probably
use
RAM defraggers too! The bunch of idiots! 9x almost never turns turtle -
but
it does crash quite a lot. Like it walks into lampposts and trees. There
are
plenty of BSODs. XP is far better in that you don't find that the latest
program you installed for the sake of productivity is causing the system
to
crash several times a day and continues to even after you've uninstalled
it!
Not that *that* has anything to do with the kind of file system in use.

Of course hard drive size now dictates that one uses NTFS and that's
just
about that - though I have partitioned the big drive into sizes small
enough
for FAT32 to use them and, while the main installation is on NTFS, at
the
front of the disk I have a 6G FAT32 volume containing XP as a
Maintenance
Operating System.

I only really found out how much one could make XP look like 9x because
my
father couldn't get on with XP because it looked so different, so I
looked
into it! The 'having to activate' objection, while valid, is not enough
to
justify staying with 9x. You almost certainly only need to activate XP
once,
and it doesn't take very long at all and if you're sensible enough to
make
proper backups, that's it, all done and dusted. It is a valid argument
but
the inconvenience is not sufficient to justify staying with 9x, is all
I'm
saying. But shortage of scratch most certainly is and I would be pleased
to
give my Win ME license to someone who will really benefit!

For me, 9x is a bygone era. And unlike Mike and, I believe, Mow, and no
doubt others (I seem to recall Noel did it too) I won't be running any
virtual drives in order to continue to support 9x users. Nor do I see
any
point supporting 9x without in some way continuing to run it - it is
alarming how quickly one forgets! You do more harm than good when you
repeatedly give wrong advice. So I doubt I'll be lingering here. I came
back
here because I want to give my copy of Win ME to someone who'll
appreciate
it and this ought to be a good source of suggestions.

I don't want to bin the monitor either - though I won't be putting that
in
an envelope! But if one must have a CRT monitor, it's a pretty good one!
Guess I best look into someone local to take that off my hands.

Excuse the rambling. I'm so tired I don't know what I'm saying.

Shane

webster72n wrote:
Hope I didn't wake you up, Shane.

No, but I'm just about to go to bed. I have to catch a train in a few hours
so another all-nighter would not be a good idea.

Thanks for that "picturesque" comment.

Ha, well who knows, eh? I read the bit below trying to figure how driving to
the harbour came into it. Well it was certainly picturesque!

Am I to undertand you have a taker for your CD?

Not yet. However, you appear to just want a CD. You do have one, surely,
since there was that period when you reinstalled several times - you had to
have something to reinstall from! Assuming you do have a Win ME CD, the
question is whether you have a burner. After all, if you have a burner, you
just make a copy of your current CD, right? If you don't have a CD you burn
a copy of the contents of C:\Windows\Options\CABS (or
C:\Windows\Options\Install if installed from a Retail rather than OEM CD).
Said probably does contain all that you need to reinstall from.

So presumably you don't have a burner. Because the cost of a blank CDR is
mere cents (or should be!). However, while it does seem rather extreme, at
first glance - if you don't have a burner - to get a copy of Win ME to use
as backup media sent from the other side of the Atlantic! Having said that
there's no reason why it shouldn't be easier for you to get one that way,
Harry, and I don't mind sending you one over - but the point about the
original offer is that it comes with the licence, so it's for someone who
doesn't already have a copy of Windows. The CD is the cheap, throwaway part,
not really worth any more than the cost of the plastic it's made from. The
licence is the part that costs (at least, if a person wishes to stay 'above
board' - though personally I feel it is irrelevent now that support has
ceased, though Microsoft's lawyers will keep prosecuting people for
providing unlicensed copies. After all, lawyers have to feed their dogs
caviar, too!).

You know, Harry, I'm thinking of a deserving cause that wants a copy of
Windows not so old it's ridiculous - like Windows 3.x would be - who
necessarily toes the quasi-legal line and wants their money to go to, say,
helping the needy, rather than buying another box of havanas for some
Microsoft shareholder who needs the smoke to concentrate so's they can
figure out how to screw even more money out everyone in the world using
Micosoft's oxygen.

What? You mean Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly on the oxygen???

Well you know what they say - the Gates are open but the beast is asleep!

Anyside up, Harry. If you want a cd containing Win ME installation files,
you can have the 'International' version of my 'Win ME Bootable Repair CD',
just not my Win ME licence. Do you want the 'Bootable Repair CD?' If so,
when it arrives you should boot from it and check out the menu, make sure
you understand it. It is pretty straightforward though, but probably if you
don't look at it until you need it, it'll seem complicated - but that would
just be panic! This was the early days of booting from CD - when the
overwhelming majority swore by floppies. But I hated waiting for floppies to
load and realised you could do so much more from a bootable CD, and I set
about making one that was simple to use. They were all betas though.
However, I've been using them for years - gave up on the Win ME EBD a long
time ago!

You want it, Harry?

That would be fine with me, only if you didn't, I would like to
reserve "my seat". I like WinME and just in case my 'good ole
faithful' should give out on me, I'd have a replacement. By now I'm
fairly familiar with most of the little details of ME.

The ones you've come across. Mind, many of the early bugs have been ironed
out and it seems rather more benign today. Of course one could reinstall and
run it without updating it - though System Restore would be disabled from
the start. Speaking of which, if you install from the cabs folder of an
updated ME, it starts out with the System Restore patch installed - so SR
does work from day 1! As it does if installed from the files on this CD I'm
proposing to send you, because it was burnt from updated cabs.

My other option now is Linux (Ubuntu). The drive to harbour it is
ready to be installed (an 80GB WD HDD).
That will avail me your preferred FF and hopefully delight me.
We shall see......
Meanwhile you have my best in every respect, as to what the future
holds in store for you and hopefully it doesn't exclude us here
alltogether.
Heers,


Yes. Well thanks Harry.

Dutch?

Let me know, and I'll post it.

Shane

"Shane" wrote in message
...
webster72n wrote:
Hope I didn't wake you up, Shane.

No, but I'm just about to go to bed. I have to catch a train in a few
hours
so another all-nighter would not be a good idea.

Thanks for that "picturesque" comment.

Ha, well who knows, eh? I read the bit below trying to figure how driving
to
the harbour came into it. Well it was certainly picturesque!

Am I to undertand you have a taker for your CD?

Not yet. However, you appear to just want a CD. You do have one, surely,
since there was that period when you reinstalled several times - you had
to
have something to reinstall from! Assuming you do have a Win ME CD, the
question is whether you have a burner. After all, if you have a burner,
you
just make a copy of your current CD, right? If you don't have a CD you
burn
a copy of the contents of C:\Windows\Options\CABS (or
C:\Windows\Options\Install if installed from a Retail rather than OEM CD).
Said probably does contain all that you need to reinstall from.

So presumably you don't have a burner. Because the cost of a blank CDR is
mere cents (or should be!). However, while it does seem rather extreme, at
first glance - if you don't have a burner - to get a copy of Win ME to use
as backup media sent from the other side of the Atlantic! Having said that
there's no reason why it shouldn't be easier for you to get one that way,
Harry, and I don't mind sending you one over - but the point about the
original offer is that it comes with the licence, so it's for someone who
doesn't already have a copy of Windows. The CD is the cheap, throwaway
part,
not really worth any more than the cost of the plastic it's made from. The
licence is the part that costs (at least, if a person wishes to stay
'above
board' - though personally I feel it is irrelevent now that support has
ceased, though Microsoft's lawyers will keep prosecuting people for
providing unlicensed copies. After all, lawyers have to feed their dogs
caviar, too!).

You know, Harry, I'm thinking of a deserving cause that wants a copy of
Windows not so old it's ridiculous - like Windows 3.x would be - who
necessarily toes the quasi-legal line and wants their money to go to, say,
helping the needy, rather than buying another box of havanas for some
Microsoft shareholder who needs the smoke to concentrate so's they can
figure out how to screw even more money out everyone in the world using
Micosoft's oxygen.

What? You mean Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly on the oxygen???

Well you know what they say - the Gates are open but the beast is asleep!

Anyside up, Harry. If you want a cd containing Win ME installation files,
you can have the 'International' version of my 'Win ME Bootable Repair
CD',
just not my Win ME licence. Do you want the 'Bootable Repair CD?' If so,
when it arrives you should boot from it and check out the menu, make sure
you understand it. It is pretty straightforward though, but probably if
you
don't look at it until you need it, it'll seem complicated - but that
would
just be panic! This was the early days of booting from CD - when the
overwhelming majority swore by floppies. But I hated waiting for floppies
to
load and realised you could do so much more from a bootable CD, and I set
about making one that was simple to use. They were all betas though.
However, I've been using them for years - gave up on the Win ME EBD a long
time ago!

You want it, Harry?

That would be fine with me, only if you didn't, I would like to
reserve "my seat". I like WinME and just in case my 'good ole
faithful' should give out on me, I'd have a replacement. By now I'm
fairly familiar with most of the little details of ME.

The ones you've come across. Mind, many of the early bugs have been ironed
out and it seems rather more benign today. Of course one could reinstall
and
run it without updating it - though System Restore would be disabled from
the start. Speaking of which, if you install from the cabs folder of an
updated ME, it starts out with the System Restore patch installed - so SR
does work from day 1! As it does if installed from the files on this CD
I'm
proposing to send you, because it was burnt from updated cabs.

My other option now is Linux (Ubuntu). The drive to harbour it is
ready to be installed (an 80GB WD HDD).
That will avail me your preferred FF and hopefully delight me.
We shall see......
Meanwhile you have my best in every respect, as to what the future
holds in store for you and hopefully it doesn't exclude us here
alltogether.
Heers,


Yes. Well thanks Harry.

Dutch?

Let me know, and I'll post it.

Shane

Shane:
Considering the situation at hand as you describe it, I don't need the CD.
I have my own and a burner, where that is concerned.
Might as well give it to the "needy person".
You're probably on the train now, enjoying the scenery.
Catch you later,

Harry.

Okay, NP Harry. For me it was worth it for the excuse to make the 'gates are
open' reference. In case you don't know that's a discrete Brit way of
telling a chap his flies are undone! Ha ha!

Shane


webster72n wrote:
"Shane" wrote in message
...
webster72n wrote:
Hope I didn't wake you up, Shane.

No, but I'm just about to go to bed. I have to catch a train in a
few hours so another all-nighter would not be a good idea.

Thanks for that "picturesque" comment.

Ha, well who knows, eh? I read the bit below trying to figure how
driving to the harbour came into it. Well it was certainly
picturesque!

Am I to undertand you have a taker for your CD?

Not yet. However, you appear to just want a CD. You do have one,
surely, since there was that period when you reinstalled several
times - you had to have something to reinstall from! Assuming you do
have a Win ME CD, the question is whether you have a burner. After
all, if you have a burner, you just make a copy of your current CD,
right? If you don't have a CD you burn a copy of the contents of
C:\Windows\Options\CABS (or C:\Windows\Options\Install if installed
from a Retail rather than OEM CD). Said probably does contain all
that you need to reinstall from.

So presumably you don't have a burner. Because the cost of a blank
CDR is mere cents (or should be!). However, while it does seem
rather extreme, at first glance - if you don't have a burner - to
get a copy of Win ME to use as backup media sent from the other side
of the Atlantic! Having said that there's no reason why it shouldn't
be easier for you to get one that way, Harry, and I don't mind
sending you one over - but the point about the original offer is
that it comes with the licence, so it's for someone who doesn't
already have a copy of Windows. The CD is the cheap, throwaway part,
not really worth any more than the cost of the plastic it's made
from. The licence is the part that costs (at least, if a person
wishes to stay 'above board' - though personally I feel it is
irrelevent now that support has ceased, though Microsoft's lawyers
will keep prosecuting people for providing unlicensed copies. After
all, lawyers have to feed their dogs caviar, too!).

You know, Harry, I'm thinking of a deserving cause that wants a copy
of Windows not so old it's ridiculous - like Windows 3.x would be -
who necessarily toes the quasi-legal line and wants their money to
go to, say, helping the needy, rather than buying another box of
havanas for some Microsoft shareholder who needs the smoke to
concentrate so's they can figure out how to screw even more money
out everyone in the world using Micosoft's oxygen.

What? You mean Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly on the oxygen???

Well you know what they say - the Gates are open but the beast is
asleep!

Anyside up, Harry. If you want a cd containing Win ME installation
files, you can have the 'International' version of my 'Win ME
Bootable Repair CD', just not my Win ME licence. Do you want the
'Bootable Repair CD?' If so, when it arrives you should boot from it
and check out the menu, make sure you understand it. It is pretty
straightforward though, but probably if you don't look at it until
you need it, it'll seem complicated - but that would just be panic!
This was the early days of booting from CD - when the overwhelming
majority swore by floppies. But I hated waiting for floppies to load
and realised you could do so much more from a bootable CD, and I set
about making one that was simple to use. They were all betas though.
However, I've been using them for years - gave up on the Win ME EBD
a long time ago!

You want it, Harry?

That would be fine with me, only if you didn't, I would like to
reserve "my seat". I like WinME and just in case my 'good ole
faithful' should give out on me, I'd have a replacement. By now I'm
fairly familiar with most of the little details of ME.

The ones you've come across. Mind, many of the early bugs have been
ironed out and it seems rather more benign today. Of course one
could reinstall and run it without updating it - though System
Restore would be disabled from the start. Speaking of which, if you
install from the cabs folder of an updated ME, it starts out with
the System Restore patch installed - so SR does work from day 1! As
it does if installed from the files on this CD I'm proposing to send
you, because it was burnt from updated cabs.

My other option now is Linux (Ubuntu). The drive to harbour it is
ready to be installed (an 80GB WD HDD).
That will avail me your preferred FF and hopefully delight me.
We shall see......
Meanwhile you have my best in every respect, as to what the future
holds in store for you and hopefully it doesn't exclude us here
alltogether.
Heers,


Yes. Well thanks Harry.

Dutch?

Let me know, and I'll post it.

Shane

Shane:
Considering the situation at hand as you describe it, I don't need
the CD. I have my own and a burner, where that is concerned.
Might as well give it to the "needy person".
You're probably on the train now, enjoying the scenery.
Catch you later,

Harry.