A year yippeeeeeeeee

Glad to hear you are still on the straight and narrow g if I remember I
quit about a fortnight after you, wish I could have saved some money I
tried but finances in this household don't allow for saving g
I don't have the problem of extra weight, never have had so that's not
something I have to worry about, I've kept a constant weight throughout my
adulthood. g
Joan

Heather wrote:
CONGRATULATIONS!!

I also am just over a year......quit Feb. 8th, 2006. I also used the
patch and figure the difference is that I was *ready to quit*. I
still get the odd mental urge......as in "hmm, think I will have a
coffee and a cigarette".....then remember that I no longer smoke,
grin.
Good for us, eh? As for the money we have saved, I bought a new TV
with my first $500. Don't know what they cost over there, but about
$10/large pack here. So 365 x $10 = a lot of money......$3,650!!

But even better.....my car and house no longer stink!! Not to mention
my clothes. And the *car and house smelling badly* was a major factor
in my decision to quit. As was the fact that some friends were
allergic to either my cat or the smoke. Casey is still here. (G)

Cheers.....Heather (and I do hate the 15 extra lbs, but hope to get
rid of that in the warmer weather)

Thanks George, I do still have it go through my head "oh I could just do
with a fag" but then it's gone just as quick g
Joan

George Gee wrote:
Gratters Joan!
Keep up the good work.
I quit Mother's Day 2001, I sometimes have nightmares that I started
again ...

George Gee

lol I've always been able to reach my toes and now I don't have so far
to reach as the top part of me has collapsed so much they are nearer g
Joan
PS: Keep up the good work.


MowGreen [MVP] wrote:
Congrats, Joan. I just past 2 months and I can feel my toes for the
first time in years. Also don't hear that wheezing sound while
sleeping, either.
Of course I can't see my toes due to the ever increasing size of my
stomache, but that's another matter for another time. w

Mow

webster72n wrote:
"George Gee" wrote in message
...
Gratters Joan!
Keep up the good work.
I quit Mother's Day 2001, I sometimes have nightmares that I started
again

I quit over 20 years ago and once in a great while I have dreams of
smoking again. When I wake up, it seems so real at first. A nasty
habit.
The part I don't understand is, why this fuss over the *smoking*,
when it is much, much more detrimental to our health, what they are
doing with our food supply all across the board. Everyone can figure
out for themselves the details of the countless methods of food
poisoning in our daily lives, practiced by the food companies and
sanctioned by the FDA.
The thing is, in most cases it doesn't kill you instantly, but slowly
over time or, to be sure, it makes you sick and ready for the
hospital.
Why is the public ignoring this, while giving all the attention to
*smoking*, which by btw is entirely voluntary, contrary to *eating*.



Only in a sense, Harry. It's an addiction. That more or less boils down to
you don't have a choice. You do have the choice to start but as most do as
children, it's a deluded choice. Because of the neurotransmitter level
changes Nicotine is probably harder to quit than heroin or cocaine. I
certainly never found anything like as difficult to quit.

I myself had a dream last night - as I sometimes do, of flying in a jet
airliner.

This was a wide-bodied one. After maybe half an hour - so before we'd left
UK airspace - the aircraft decelerated so much that it felt like it had
stopped - but as we didn't plummet, presumably it had just decelerated such
as when preparing to land. Instead of doing 400kts we were doing, say, 250.
However I'd have expected to feel some sensation of dropping, of gravity
decreasing. Next thing I know we land! What's more I look out the window and
we're on a road! I see a sign for Lasham - an airport, once the base of Dan
Air, premier Comet operators in the latter days and used for repainting and
servicing the likes of Boeings and MDs now. Presumably the crew had tried to
reach the nearest runway but not made it.

Except that the lack of feeling of losing altitude might mean we never
actually took off!

We should use more wide-body jets on the roads. I mean, talk about car
pooling!

I really ought to be given a Ministry.

Shane

"Shane" wrote in message
...
webster72n wrote:
"George Gee" wrote in message
...
Gratters Joan!
Keep up the good work.
I quit Mother's Day 2001, I sometimes have nightmares that I started
again

I quit over 20 years ago and once in a great while I have dreams of
smoking again. When I wake up, it seems so real at first. A nasty
habit.
The part I don't understand is, why this fuss over the *smoking*,
when it is much, much more detrimental to our health, what they are
doing with our food supply all across the board. Everyone can figure
out for themselves the details of the countless methods of food
poisoning in our daily lives, practiced by the food companies and
sanctioned by the FDA.
The thing is, in most cases it doesn't kill you instantly, but slowly
over time or, to be sure, it makes you sick and ready for the
hospital.
Why is the public ignoring this, while giving all the attention to
*smoking*, which by btw is entirely voluntary, contrary to *eating*.



Only in a sense, Harry. It's an addiction. That more or less boils down to
you don't have a choice. You do have the choice to start but as most do as
children, it's a deluded choice. Because of the neurotransmitter level
changes Nicotine is probably harder to quit than heroin or cocaine. I
certainly never found anything like as difficult to quit.

I myself had a dream last night - as I sometimes do, of flying in a jet
airliner.

This was a wide-bodied one. After maybe half an hour - so before we'd left
UK airspace - the aircraft decelerated so much that it felt like it had
stopped - but as we didn't plummet, presumably it had just decelerated
such
as when preparing to land. Instead of doing 400kts we were doing, say,
250.
However I'd have expected to feel some sensation of dropping, of gravity
decreasing. Next thing I know we land! What's more I look out the window
and
we're on a road! I see a sign for Lasham - an airport, once the base of
Dan
Air, premier Comet operators in the latter days and used for repainting
and
servicing the likes of Boeings and MDs now. Presumably the crew had tried
to
reach the nearest runway but not made it.

Except that the lack of feeling of losing altitude might mean we never
actually took off!

We should use more wide-body jets on the roads. I mean, talk about car
pooling!

I really ought to be given a Ministry.

Question is, what kind?
Personally I think the title of 'Propaganda Minister' would be appropriate.
In a way we all think of ourselves as some kind of 'minister', don't we?
What were you saying about a 'homeless' WinME CD?
In case you shouldn't find any other takers, I might be the one.
For awhile I thought you had given up 'surfing'.
Glad to see you back here and in good spirits.

Harry.

Shane

webster72n wrote:
"Shane" wrote in message
...
webster72n wrote:
"George Gee" wrote in message
...
Gratters Joan!
Keep up the good work.
I quit Mother's Day 2001, I sometimes have nightmares that I
started again

I quit over 20 years ago and once in a great while I have dreams of
smoking again. When I wake up, it seems so real at first. A nasty
habit.
The part I don't understand is, why this fuss over the *smoking*,
when it is much, much more detrimental to our health, what they are
doing with our food supply all across the board. Everyone can figure
out for themselves the details of the countless methods of food
poisoning in our daily lives, practiced by the food companies and
sanctioned by the FDA.
The thing is, in most cases it doesn't kill you instantly, but
slowly over time or, to be sure, it makes you sick and ready for the
hospital.
Why is the public ignoring this, while giving all the attention to
*smoking*, which by btw is entirely voluntary, contrary to *eating*.



Only in a sense, Harry. It's an addiction. That more or less boils
down to you don't have a choice. You do have the choice to start but
as most do as children, it's a deluded choice. Because of the
neurotransmitter level changes Nicotine is probably harder to quit
than heroin or cocaine. I certainly never found anything like as
difficult to quit.

I myself had a dream last night - as I sometimes do, of flying in a
jet airliner.

This was a wide-bodied one. After maybe half an hour - so before
we'd left UK airspace - the aircraft decelerated so much that it
felt like it had stopped - but as we didn't plummet, presumably it
had just decelerated such as when preparing to land. Instead of
doing 400kts we were doing, say, 250. However I'd have expected to
feel some sensation of dropping, of gravity decreasing. Next thing I
know we land! What's more I look out the window and we're on a road!
I see a sign for Lasham - an airport, once the base of Dan Air,
premier Comet operators in the latter days and used for repainting
and servicing the likes of Boeings and MDs now. Presumably the crew
had tried to reach the nearest runway but not made it.

Except that the lack of feeling of losing altitude might mean we
never actually took off!

We should use more wide-body jets on the roads. I mean, talk about
car pooling!

I really ought to be given a Ministry.

Question is, what kind?
Personally I think the title of 'Propaganda Minister' would be
appropriate. In a way we all think of ourselves as some kind of
'minister', don't we? What were you saying about a 'homeless' WinME
CD?
In case you shouldn't find any other takers, I might be the one.
For awhile I thought you had given up 'surfing'.
Glad to see you back here and in good spirits.


What would you want with a Win ME cd, Harry? I mean, not that if you have a
deserving home for one I wouldn't be happy to send it that way. The
companion would no doubt be useful seeing as it has just about every
post-Security Update CD update on it. The Win ME one though is the original
burning-the-contents-of-the-CABS-folder-to-CD and constitutes imo the 1
backup you're granted permission to make, though I don't doubt they could
quibble over the small print. It *was* an OEM version, tied to the BIOS.
*Now* it'll install on any machine that can run Win ME, the installation is
effectively 'retail', ie you get full choice - and it installs as per retail
CDs to the Install folder, not to CABS (minor detail but a telling one). But
the point, really - especially as 99% of those running Win ME could probably
burn a similar CD - is the Product key, which makes it 'non-pirate'.

Incidentally, and I still - 6 years on - don't know how much this plays a
part in the kind of installation that subsequently runs, the disc root
Setup.exe file, missing from the OEM cd, I replaced with one from my 98SE
cd. It required hex editing - though basically just to replace the string
'98 Second Edition' with 'Millennium Edition' wherever it appears, along
with the requisite no. of spaces to make up the bytes - before it would run.
I would be quite happy to supply that file. You copy the contents of the
CABS folder renamed 'WINME', to CD, having deleted MSBATCH.INF if it exists
and all files with 'OEM' in their name. You put the edited 'Setup.exe' in
the root (plus other files/folders, if desired, as found in the retail
product). That's how I made a 'retail' copy from an OEM WINME disc
containing an image.

To what extent I'm back, Harry, I don't know. I've been investigating a new
box - doing what I do, installing and reinstalling and finding out what's
what, a kind of masochistic fun, ie I do this because I get obsessed, not
because I can't get enough of it! I've room for 2 more HDDs inside but only
cabling for one 2nd SATA! So I have a 40G ATAPI HDD going to waste (as well
as the older, slower 30G I never did plan on redeploying). Hard to go from
where an 850 Athlon was pretty hot to where it's so puny I might as well
dump it!

That's what I'm going through now - 'moving on'. In a sense - what with
Moore's Law - home computing necessitates permanently 'moving on' - though
it was hard enough ditching the various copies of such as 16-bit Win 95, Win
95SR2, NT3.10 etc etc. I suppose 'moving on' proceeds in discrete jumps,
like quanta, as one's resistance is overcome, then born anew as one begins
to feel at home with the next operating system, the next technological
revolution.

Within this last year I ditched my CDs containing all Win 98 updates - I
still have Win 98 itself as I used it as qualifying media for the XP Home
Upgrade (which the Win ME CD does not fulfill), but that'll be going with
the copy of XP Home I'll be putting on my Dad's computer. I'm sure you
know - I'm sure we all know - how difficult it is to give this stuff up! Win
98! There are people who will never be able to relinquish that one. Well, we
know what Freud called it!

I do still have one copy of NT4.0 which I keep because I designed it to
(mostly) auto-update from setup to end-of-support and contains batches reg
files and scripts I put a lot of work into and can't bring myself to ditch -
indeed I think to do so would be short-sighted! Likewise I have three copies
of the WinME files included in a special CD I made (no updates, albeit I
retain the original Security Update CD - only contrary to what I said on my
webpage 3 years ago there have been *many* updates since!). This too
contains many batches I wrote - of which the latter-day 'Ultimate Boot CD'
is essentially the same thing, though I bet mine's more amusing! I have to
keep at least one of those - they work for any FAT/FAT32 installation and
are useful tools and the fact they have an option to install Windows
Millennium Edition is irrelevent, because I think I have now reached the
unfamiliar stage at which I will never install or otherwise run any version
of Windows 9x, not for myself, not ever again!

I've been through reinstalling old OSes for nostalgia's sake and have come
to see it as a totally pointless exercise. I've done it. Been there. It was
so-so.

9x is old. Apart from being unable to afford something more recent, I cannot
see any good reason to continue to run Win ME. I think ME is much better
than 98SE - which was marginally better than 98, which was better than 95OS2
etc etc. But XP - set up right (such as with Classic Start Menu, not
childlike 'XP Style') you can make look so much like ME the only thing that
gives it away is that it is that much more stable!

Taking the Win ME 'Program Files\Plus!' folder and putting it in XP, and
thereby installing the Desktop Themes available in ME, PC Mag's Display Set
also works! Then you can, as in 9x, change the colour of the window borders,
Light, Shade etc. Increase all text sizes, increase systray icon size, that
sort of thing. T-Clock X displays properly in XP using Classic schemes.

NTFS zealots used to - no doubt still do - characterise XP on NTFS as much
more secure. Well in the malware sense that is absurd! It is high time XP
SP3 was released! There are so many security patches for it - so many post
SP2! To argue that it's more secure is to parrot the party line which fails
to take the real world into account - it's just echoing advertising.

In the sense of security as a consequence of increased stability - well,
yes. But the zealots imply that with 9x you were losing your files left
right and centre, which is ludicrous. Probably the people who put Symantec
at the top of the AV vendor's tree lost a lot of files - they probably use
RAM defraggers too! The bunch of idiots! 9x almost never turns turtle - but
it does crash quite a lot. Like it walks into lampposts and trees. There are
plenty of BSODs. XP is far better in that you don't find that the latest
program you installed for the sake of productivity is causing the system to
crash several times a day and continues to even after you've uninstalled it!
Not that *that* has anything to do with the kind of file system in use.

Of course hard drive size now dictates that one uses NTFS and that's just
about that - though I have partitioned the big drive into sizes small enough
for FAT32 to use them and, while the main installation is on NTFS, at the
front of the disk I have a 6G FAT32 volume containing XP as a Maintenance
Operating System.

I only really found out how much one could make XP look like 9x because my
father couldn't get on with XP because it looked so different, so I looked
into it! The 'having to activate' objection, while valid, is not enough to
justify staying with 9x. You almost certainly only need to activate XP once,
and it doesn't take very long at all and if you're sensible enough to make
proper backups, that's it, all done and dusted. It is a valid argument but
the inconvenience is not sufficient to justify staying with 9x, is all I'm
saying. But shortage of scratch most certainly is and I would be pleased to
give my Win ME license to someone who will really benefit!

For me, 9x is a bygone era. And unlike Mike and, I believe, Mow, and no
doubt others (I seem to recall Noel did it too) I won't be running any
virtual drives in order to continue to support 9x users. Nor do I see any
point supporting 9x without in some way continuing to run it - it is
alarming how quickly one forgets! You do more harm than good when you
repeatedly give wrong advice. So I doubt I'll be lingering here. I came back
here because I want to give my copy of Win ME to someone who'll appreciate
it and this ought to be a good source of suggestions.

I don't want to bin the monitor either - though I won't be putting that in
an envelope! But if one must have a CRT monitor, it's a pretty good one!
Guess I best look into someone local to take that off my hands.

Excuse the rambling. I'm so tired I don't know what I'm saying.

Shane

That was a very interesting read Shane, I know someone who likes her WinME
and that's Kelly, she has told me that she doesn't like XP but much
prefers to run ME and is happy to do so.
Me I like my XP and can't wait to get my hands on Vista g don't know
when that will be though g perhaps it's just me but I love gadgets and
running the latest, even though I don't and can't afford to have the
latest.
I was thinking it's about time I gave you a ring again, so expect to hear
from me in the next few days g
Joan


Shane wrote:

What would you want with a Win ME cd, Harry? I mean, not that if you
have a deserving home for one I wouldn't be happy to send it that
way. The companion would no doubt be useful seeing as it has just
about every post-Security Update CD update on it. The Win ME one
snip

Me I like my XP and can't wait to get my hands on Vista g

In the meantime grab yourself a packet of needles and then slowly stick
each one in your arm and then waggle it around. This will get you
prepared for when you get to install Vista.
--
Mike Maltby




Joan Archer wrote:

That was a very interesting read Shane, I know someone who likes her
WinME and that's Kelly, she has told me that she doesn't like XP but
much prefers to run ME and is happy to do so.
Me I like my XP and can't wait to get my hands on Vista g don't know
when that will be though g perhaps it's just me but I love gadgets
and running the latest, even though I don't and can't afford to have
the latest.
I was thinking it's about time I gave you a ring again, so expect to
hear from me in the next few days g

lol Is it that bad g
Joan


Mike M wrote:
Me I like my XP and can't wait to get my hands on Vista g

In the meantime grab yourself a packet of needles and then slowly
stick each one in your arm and then waggle it around. This will get
you prepared for when you get to install Vista.

That was a very interesting read Shane, I know someone who likes her
WinME and that's Kelly, she has told me that she doesn't like XP but
much prefers to run ME and is happy to do so.
Me I like my XP and can't wait to get my hands on Vista g don't
know when that will be though g perhaps it's just me but I love
gadgets and running the latest, even though I don't and can't afford
to have the latest.
I was thinking it's about time I gave you a ring again, so expect to
hear from me in the next few days g

Yes.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Joan Archer" wrote in message
...
lol Is it that bad g
Joan


Mike M wrote:
Me I like my XP and can't wait to get my hands on Vista g

In the meantime grab yourself a packet of needles and then slowly
stick each one in your arm and then waggle it around. This will get
you prepared for when you get to install Vista.

That was a very interesting read Shane, I know someone who likes her
WinME and that's Kelly, she has told me that she doesn't like XP but
much prefers to run ME and is happy to do so.
Me I like my XP and can't wait to get my hands on Vista g don't
know when that will be though g perhaps it's just me but I love
gadgets and running the latest, even though I don't and can't afford
to have the latest.
I was thinking it's about time I gave you a ring again, so expect to
hear from me in the next few days g