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installing second operating system or a virtual operating system
Anyone have experience with:
Putting a second operating system (such as WinXP) on a multi-partitioned hard disk already having an OS (W98se) on it ? Is this possible? What about these so called 'virtual operating systems' ? Do they work ? If so, is there any advantage or disadvantage to using one of these VOS'es instead of a real operating system ? Sorry for the multiple questions, but thanking you for any answers. Roxana |
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"Roxana" wrote in message
... Anyone have experience with: Putting a second operating system (such as WinXP) on a multi-partitioned hard disk already having an OS (W98se) on it ? Yes, but the PC's components must be up to date compatable for it to be successful. Is this possible? Yes. What about these so called 'virtual operating systems' ? Do they work ? If so, is there any advantage or disadvantage to using one of these VOS'es instead of a real operating system ? If in your question you are asking about "Virtual Machines", they do work when installed in a enviroment that is compatable. A "VM" is not an operating syatem, it is a virtual environment in which you can install multiple OS's. The number of OS's installed is limited to the available disk space of which the VM is installed on. Sorry for the multiple questions, but thanking you for any answers. -- Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 |
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To have more than one OS on a drive and select between them at startup, you
need a boot manager. They definitely work and are very effective for that particular job. See a description he http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/ Creating a Virtual Machine and installing a different operating system into it is also quite effective - the choice depends on your needs. There's a description he http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...c/default.mspx The MS virtual machine won't work in W98, so you would need to install XP or Vista, then create a virtual machine to install W98 in. You can't simply shift an existing installation of W98 into a virtual machine. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Roxana" wrote in message ... Anyone have experience with: Putting a second operating system (such as WinXP) on a multi-partitioned hard disk already having an OS (W98se) on it ? Is this possible? What about these so called 'virtual operating systems' ? Do they work ? If so, is there any advantage or disadvantage to using one of these VOS'es instead of a real operating system ? Sorry for the multiple questions, but thanking you for any answers. Roxana |
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"Brian A." wrote in message ... "Roxana" wrote in message Anyone have experience with: Putting a second operating system (such as WinXP) on a multi-partitioned hard disk already having an OS (W98se) on it ? Yes, but the PC's components must be up to date compatable for it to be successful. I assume that things are already compatible, as I dual boot XP as it is (on another hard disk). Just wondering if it's better - or not better - to have the two OS' on one drive (separate volumes, of course) as opposed to two different ones. Is this possible? Yes. Okie-Dokie. What about these so called 'virtual operating systems' ? Do they work ? If so, is there any advantage or disadvantage to using one of these VOS'es instead of a real operating system ? If in your question you are asking about "Virtual Machines", they do work when installed in a enviroment that is compatable. A "VM" is not an operating syatem, it is a virtual environment in which you can install multiple OS's. The number of OS's installed is limited to the available disk space of which the VM is installed on. Does that mean that in these "VM's", one can have two 'un-separated' opeating systems using the same VM, same volume (say 100 GB for example) ? Hoping I worded that properly.... I may be absent for a day or two as some guests are due at my home. I will return. And, thank you very much. Roxana Sorry for the multiple questions, but thanking you for any answers. -- Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 |
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Thanks for your speedy reply. :-)
Yes, I have a Boot Manager already. (dual booting 98se/XP on two separate hard disks). I've replied to Brian S, above. Therein I asked if its advantageous or not advantageous to have both OS' on the same hard disk, but obviously, in 2 separate volumes. (as opposed to employing some VM) "Creating a Virtual Machine and installing different OS'..." . Oh... it depends on my needs. hehe I guess I'm just wondering if there's any advantage or real purpose to having a VM if one has two separate OS' already. But, I see that *if* I wanted/needed one, it'd have to be the other way around. i.e. - WinXP would become Primary and W98se, secondary. I'd have to *install*, and not copy the w98se OS into the VM, which I'd fist install into the WinXP Drive/Volume. Is that right ? I'll look at the MS VM link you provided. Thanks. I may be away for a day or two. Friends are due for a visit to my home. I will return. Thanks again. Roxana "Jeff Richards" wrote in message ... To have more than one OS on a drive and select between them at startup, you need a boot manager. They definitely work and are very effective for that particular job. See a description he http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/ Creating a Virtual Machine and installing a different operating system into it is also quite effective - the choice depends on your needs. There's a description he http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...c/default.mspx The MS virtual machine won't work in W98, so you would need to install XP or Vista, then create a virtual machine to install W98 in. You can't simply shift an existing installation of W98 into a virtual machine. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Roxana" wrote in message ... Anyone have experience with: Putting a second operating system (such as WinXP) on a multi-partitioned hard disk already having an OS (W98se) on it ? Is this possible? What about these so called 'virtual operating systems' ? Do they work ? If so, is there any advantage or disadvantage to using one of these VOS'es instead of a real operating system ? Sorry for the multiple questions, but thanking you for any answers. Roxana |
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With a dual boot setup only one OS is operating at any one time, so I can't
think of any reason that having two partitions on one disk would be any better or worse than having two disks. The reason that the choice depends on your needs is that the two options provide very different functionality. By dual booting, you simply choose whether you want to run this or that. When you change your mind you shut down one and start the other. By using a VM to install a second OS, you are committed to always booting one OS (say, XP) and having that run all the time. Then, when needed, you boot W98 as a VM, and switch between the two as required. Then exit W98, terminate the VM, and continue to use XP until you shut down. For instance, someone providing technical support for a mixture of users would definitely go for the VM arrangement, as they can have XP running for normal support and housekeeping, and start the W98 system as needed if a W98 user calls in. OTOH, a serious gamer only starts the machine to play a particular game, and wouldn't want any part of the system being used by an OS they don't need at the moment. So dual booting would be the sensible choice for them. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Roxana" wrote in message ... Thanks for your speedy reply. :-) Yes, I have a Boot Manager already. (dual booting 98se/XP on two separate hard disks). I've replied to Brian S, above. Therein I asked if its advantageous or not advantageous to have both OS' on the same hard disk, but obviously, in 2 separate volumes. (as opposed to employing some VM) "Creating a Virtual Machine and installing different OS'..." . Oh... it depends on my needs. hehe I guess I'm just wondering if there's any advantage or real purpose to having a VM if one has two separate OS' already. But, I see that *if* I wanted/needed one, it'd have to be the other way around. i.e. - WinXP would become Primary and W98se, secondary. I'd have to *install*, and not copy the w98se OS into the VM, which I'd fist install into the WinXP Drive/Volume. Is that right ? I'll look at the MS VM link you provided. Thanks. I may be away for a day or two. Friends are due for a visit to my home. I will return. Thanks again. Roxana "Jeff Richards" wrote in message ... To have more than one OS on a drive and select between them at startup, you need a boot manager. They definitely work and are very effective for that particular job. See a description he http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/ Creating a Virtual Machine and installing a different operating system into it is also quite effective - the choice depends on your needs. There's a description he http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...c/default.mspx The MS virtual machine won't work in W98, so you would need to install XP or Vista, then create a virtual machine to install W98 in. You can't simply shift an existing installation of W98 into a virtual machine. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Roxana" wrote in message ... Anyone have experience with: Putting a second operating system (such as WinXP) on a multi-partitioned hard disk already having an OS (W98se) on it ? Is this possible? What about these so called 'virtual operating systems' ? Do they work ? If so, is there any advantage or disadvantage to using one of these VOS'es instead of a real operating system ? Sorry for the multiple questions, but thanking you for any answers. Roxana |
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I fall under the category of serious old school dos gamer. LOL
Roxana, I also have a dual-boot with 98 Second Edition and my other operating system is XP Professional. I am planning on now buying BING because I tested it once and it was great and many people here like it so I am now convinced. In addition, I want to hide 98 Second Edition and XP Professional from each to prevent problems between the 2 operating systems and as PCR can attest to that was my big issue when I hooked up VPN (Virtual Private Networking) via my home with permission from Ken Cole, Director of Technology at APS. I do not want to mention his email again here and I was wrong to post it in the first place. If you want to know more about this or the Albuquerque Public Schools then please email me at . Please remove the space and proper protections such as plain text and other safety protocals are in place. I love getting the email phising scams such as the ones from Africa that are false asking for money. A recent one I got was from the cia asking for money but it was the cia.com. I wonder how so many people fall for these email scams and so I don't trust email too much but then again I don't trust telephones too much. I prefer writing and sending certified mail with a return receipt when necessary and like face to face contact as needed. Thank you and have a great week. Dan Weiser Educational Assistant at APS Elementary School |
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Hi again. :-) I apologize for my absence.
"Jeff Richards" wrote in message ... With a dual boot setup only one OS is operating at any one time, so I can't think of any reason that having two partitions on one disk would be any better or worse than having two disks. OK. No diff as far as logic or 'safety' or any particular reason then ? Great ! That makes that very easy. :-) The reason that the choice depends on your needs is that the two options provide very different functionality. So I see. By dual booting, you simply choose whether you want to run this or that. When you change your mind you shut down one and start the other. Yes. Simple enough. By using a VM to install a second OS, you are committed to always booting one OS (say, XP) and having that run all the time. Then, when needed, you boot W98 as a VM, and switch between the two as required. Then exit W98, terminate the VM, and continue to use XP until you shut down. Explained very clearly. Thank you. :-) For instance, someone providing technical support for a mixture of users would definitely go for the VM arrangement, as they can have XP running for normal support and housekeeping, and start the W98 system as needed if a W98 user calls in. Perfectly logical reason and purpose. Since I have no call for such, its one I don't need,. That's a relief. OTOH, a serious gamer only starts the machine to play a particular game, and wouldn't want any part of the system being used by an OS they don't need at the moment. So dual booting would be the sensible choice for them. Again, you've very clearly made the point so that even I can understand it. Thank you very much. s -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Roxana" wrote: Thanks for your speedy reply. :-) Yes, I have a Boot Manager already. (dual booting 98se/XP on two separate hard disks). I've replied to Brian S, above. Therein I asked if its advantageous or not advantageous to have both OS' on the same hard disk, but obviously, in 2 separate volumes. (as opposed to employing some VM) "Creating a Virtual Machine and installing different OS'..." . Oh... it depends on my needs. hehe I guess I'm just wondering if there's any advantage or real purpose to having a VM if one has two separate OS' already. But, I see that *if* I wanted/needed one, it'd have to be the other way around. i.e. - WinXP would become Primary and W98se, secondary. I'd have to *install*, and not copy the w98se OS into the VM, which I'd fist install into the WinXP Drive/Volume. Is that right ? I'll look at the MS VM link you provided. Thanks. I may be away for a day or two. Friends are due for a visit to my home. I will return. Thanks again. Roxana "Jeff Richards" wrote in message: To have more than one OS on a drive and select between them at startup, you need a boot manager. They definitely work and are very effective for that particular job. See a description he http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/ Creating a Virtual Machine and installing a different operating system into it is also quite effective - the choice depends on your needs. There's a description he http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...c/default.mspx The MS virtual machine won't work in W98, so you would need to install XP or Vista, then create a virtual machine to install W98 in. You can't simply shift an existing installation of W98 into a virtual machine. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Roxana" wrote: Anyone have experience with: Putting a second operating system (such as WinXP) on a multi-partitioned hard disk already having an OS (W98se) on it ? Is this possible? What about these so called 'virtual operating systems' ? Do they work ? If so, is there any advantage or disadvantage to using one of these VOS'es instead of a real operating system ? Sorry for the multiple questions, but thanking you for any answers. Roxana |
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You're very welcome.
-- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Roxana" wrote in message ... Hi again. :-) I apologize for my absence. "Jeff Richards" wrote in message ... With a dual boot setup only one OS is operating at any one time, so I can't think of any reason that having two partitions on one disk would be any better or worse than having two disks. OK. No diff as far as logic or 'safety' or any particular reason then ? Great ! That makes that very easy. :-) The reason that the choice depends on your needs is that the two options provide very different functionality. So I see. By dual booting, you simply choose whether you want to run this or that. When you change your mind you shut down one and start the other. Yes. Simple enough. By using a VM to install a second OS, you are committed to always booting one OS (say, XP) and having that run all the time. Then, when needed, you boot W98 as a VM, and switch between the two as required. Then exit W98, terminate the VM, and continue to use XP until you shut down. Explained very clearly. Thank you. :-) For instance, someone providing technical support for a mixture of users would definitely go for the VM arrangement, as they can have XP running for normal support and housekeeping, and start the W98 system as needed if a W98 user calls in. Perfectly logical reason and purpose. Since I have no call for such, its one I don't need,. That's a relief. OTOH, a serious gamer only starts the machine to play a particular game, and wouldn't want any part of the system being used by an OS they don't need at the moment. So dual booting would be the sensible choice for them. Again, you've very clearly made the point so that even I can understand it. Thank you very much. s -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) |
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